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I don't think that either candidate is without flaws (to put it lightly).
However, Donald Trump is inciting a hateful divisiveness that effects a much larger spectrum of people.
He is preying upon the weaknesses of his country to gain power - playing upon the ignorance of a misinformed
and fearful public - and is not working to bring people together within or outside of the US. By no means is
Clinton covering up rape and sexual assault allegations against her husband acceptable, for any politician or
person in a position of power, but in regards to a potential to continue progressive growth for the US, she is
the better option.
That being said, the image doesn't have anything to do with Clinton, but I understand the connection. Politics is
always pitted as a battle of differences it seems, rather than looking at each candidate for what they are saying
and representing it becomes a game of comparisons.
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The divisions have always been there and are inherent. Islam will not assimilate into the West. American blacks have been de-assimilating for at least twenty years, but probably longer. Trump just represents white people who have given up. I used to think we'd have a Star Trek future where everyone got along, now I think I'll have to fight a civil war against Muslims when I'm sixty. I'm just not up for that.
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Trump represents all of these divisions, and is inflaming them.
White people need to take responsibility for the divisions they have created racially and religiously.
Why should any people need to assimilate to white people's expectations and not vise-versa?
It is not a matter of assimilation and fitting in for anyone or any race, gender or religion.
It is a matter of acceptance of difference and working to create acceptance of this.
Black people in the US have been subjected to segregation, racial discrimination and abuse.
Wouldn't you be skeptical of a people who have shot, killed and enslaved you for the better part of your existence in the country?
Fanatic Islamists have essentially been created through US occupation of the middle east for oil and economic gain.
The US armed Iraq and Iran when Russia was attempting to invade and occupy. The US then invaded Iraq and
left the country in political disarray. Hussein needed to be removed from power, but to step in, take down a regime
and provide no opportunity, resource or guidance to reform as a nation with government is irresponsible. To step into
any situation and only participate up to the point it no longer suits your interests (oil resources being obtained) is
not going to lead to a situation without repercussion.
You now have an immense region of people who have been armed, bombed and abandoned by the US. Wouldn't it make sense that
something like ISIS might happen?
ISIS is not to do with Islam. It has a regional association. if everyone in the region follows the religion, and the aforementioned events happen, then response is event triggered.
Hiding away from all of the messes that have been made by White America will not make them disappear. They exist. They have to be dealt with.
These issues may not have anything to do with you on an individual level, but these sort of issues go beyond an individual level.
Black people and Muslim people have been grouped in and treated as being one, and not as individuals.
White people no longer deserve the privilege to deal with en mass applied issues as individuals, because it is not the individual that is responsible, but the collective.
Problems do not go away. They weigh heavier with time.
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"Wouldn't you be skeptical of a people who have shot, killed and enslaved you for the better part of your existence in the country?"
Yes! I think kafir people are right to be skeptical of Muslims who have shot, killed, raped, and tortured for the better part of their existance in Europe, both in medieval times and the modern day.
I only said that American blacks are de-assimilating. I've said nothing about the reason why. What I'm doing is questioning the idea of how extensive assimilation ever was to begin with. There are numerous groups of white Europeans which I would say are as unassimilated as the Muslims, and less assimilated than American blacks. Mennonites have been moving into my area in recent years and although they are of white German stock I would not call them assimilated at all. They don't even live in the 21st century. It's still the 17th century for them. The idea of the "Great Melting Pot" was never true. The groups that came to America are still here and seperate, the only difference is most of them live together peacefully, and the Muslims have to blow everyone up.
America didn't invade Iraq and leave it hanging. A government was created. The people of Iraq voted. Eventually the new Iraqi government gave America a choice - either American troops would be subject to Iraqi law, or they could leave. Essentially, the new Iraqi government threw America out. We've been back in and out since then as the need arose, but Obama doesn't want to surge back into Iraq and I don't think the Iraqi's want those numbers of American troops back in their country again either.
There are many theories of where ISIS came from. They're just as likely to have been created intentionally by Turkey or Saudi Arabia as unintentionally by America.
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Thanks for your response! (I appreciate it - a lot of people will make comments and not continue the discussion.)
While I understand that your examples are similar in nature to those of the relationships between black and white Americans, and America and Muslim peoples, using examples which are outside of the context of the discussion don't really hold relevancy as they are not the situations which are being discussed. It seems as though it is justification of actions of the US based on the actions of other groups. I don't believe that just because it is happening somewhere else that it justifies it being done. Everyone is responsible for their actions regardless of what someone else is doing. Perhaps that's not what you meant by it, but that is what is sounds like you are saying.
Muslims aren't blowing everyone up in the US (or did you mean elsewhere in the world?). The vast majority of terrorist attacks within the US since 9/11 have been performed by non-islamic people. You can see the statistics here: www.johnstonsarchive.net/terro…
Yes, there have been Muslims who have committed terrorist acts in America, but so have other religious groups within the US. It is media attention, and Republican interest in oil-driven economic gains which have directed attention to them. If there is fear and hatred, people will be more likely to fight against it.
There are absolutely Muslim terrorists in this world. But that does not make them all of that mind. Islamic extremists are killing their own people as well. The vast majority, however, are not violent people.
I don't think Trump represents white people who have given up. Perhaps some individuals feel that way, but he represents what exists already in the spectrum of negative, and ignorant thought which tells people it's ok to be lazy and un-involved in making America a "better place", so long as we have jobs and forget everyone else. There is no magic wall around America that will stop the situations which exist entering it.
America did leave Iraq hanging. They created a situation of occupation and destruction and left them without the knowledge or foundation to create a successful democratic system. Again, as they created the situation, which was one of war, how is there a justification for leaving just because Iraq says it will impose law upon them? The US clearly has the resources to continue what has been started and retain control. Iraq didn't all of a sudden become a world power and become too much to handle. There was no reason other than the situation no longer fit US interest. When was there consideration of what people in Iraq wanted when there was bombings?
Thank you for clarifying your stance on assimilation. That being said, I don't think it should have ever been an option, or that everyone being the same (again maybe not what you meant, but how you've stated it implies such) is what will have people live in peace. Bringing up dissimilation of black people also seems to imply that it would be better if they did... I don't think that's what you mean, but I also think it's important to bring up that the statement has implication.
It's not ok to just give up. There is moral obligation to clean up a mess that has been made, by the people(s) who have made it.
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HEY! Show more respect for our next president!.....Jeebus Christos isn't that a chilling thought? This fucking narcissistic sociopathic idiotic fuck will, most likely, be our next figurehead
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It's terrifying... I can't see it happening. It's too surreal.
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American's aren't the best and brightest when it comes to picking leaders. It basically narrows down to, "Man that guy knows just what to say to inflate my ego and ethnocentrism! I'll follow him cause of those warm bubblies he stirs up inside my pride!" AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! WE'RE THE GREATEST NATION EVER! WOOOOO!
Is it just me, or why does every time I see him give a speech give me this mental image of some guy dangling his car keys in front of an infant?
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Hah, yeah he is not exactly an exemplary human being... to say the least.
I think it is hard to find good leaders in any country though. Having more than the traditional 2 parties to choose from would help though.
It would present new ideas and give people the opportunity to see a larger spectrum of thought. It would make for a less divisive political landscape
(when there are only 2 options it makes for an us .vs. them mentality) and give people the opportunity to vote based on a more accurate representation
of their values. It would also make for a lot more political accountability from parties and their members.
Unfortunately not all people can see things from a critical perspective, so I think you have to present them with a larger array of options to have them consider any sort of change.
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The issue is that it has become a tradition now in America. Just like many families identify themselves as protestant or catholic, they also see themselves as democrat or republican. Perhaps within this period of shaken faith towards both parties the younger generations may find your observation as valid and other parties will rise in a popularity to a point to rival the established 2. Many younger adults I've talked to seem to hav more of an open mind and see the benefit.
Hopefully, we can, as a species, evolve the ability to better govern ourselves so governments will become a thing of the past, but that will be far from our lifetimes if it even happens; I'm skeptical.
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I think you give him more credit than he deserves by implying he even has grey matter up there in the first place.
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To be fair, the brain doesn't appear to be attached to his spinal cord... so it's not really doing anything in there anyways lol
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Set the KFC lovers on him!
Omnomnom....
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