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Published: 2014-06-05 01:32:36 +0000 UTC; Views: 637; Favourites: 6; Downloads: 1
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Obi-Wan, my Dragonborn, coming to Isran to join the Dawnguard.I just had too much time and played with Paint.
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Thanks, I'm glad you think so.
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Thanks, I'll hopefully submit Obi-Wan's meme soon, with my real drawings (though I started drawing them a couple of months ago, so it actually may not be so soon, I'm lazy
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Oh cool! Can't wait to see it:3 (Oy I have to update mine and WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE )
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Nice daedric dagger, and no offence, but you look like you are wearing imperial milk drinkers armour... doesn't it still stink from the imperial dog who died in it?
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It's a sword! xD
Yes, I wear Imperial armor and it doesn't stink after anyone. It was a brand new set when I found it in a chest in Helgen at the very beginning of the game. I used to carry it ever since and I'm proud of wearing it. I killed many Stormcloak dogs while wearing it.
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proud of wearing it? killing Stormcloaks!? Why? why support the thalmor?
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Stormcloaks are racists and Ulfric seems like a majestic bighead to me. He just makes a mess in Skyrim. But secretly Obi-Wan kills Thalmor agents as well. He hates them as much as Stormcolaks do, but his heart will always be with the Empire. Both Thalmor and Stormcloak rebellion are plagues that must be taken care of for him. The Empire was founded by Tiber Septim, a Nord of Skyrim. Skyrim's an inherent part of the Empire, why can't the Stormcloaks understand it? They should support the Empire in regaining strength to defeat the Thalmor together, not weaken it and thus strengthen the Dominion's position in Tamriel.
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The empire has no intentions of fighting the thalmor, nor would they need to regain any strength if they wanted to, for they had utterly crushed the dominion during the great war, and the dominions full strength afterward wasn't even enough to defeat the redguards of Hammerfell after the emperor kicked them out of the empire to please his thalmor friends.
The People wanting to live their lives unoppressed is not a plague, I agree that the thalmor are, but they wouldn't even be in Skyrim if it wasn't for the empire giving them free reign and authority to be there in the first place.
Yes the empire was founded by Tiber Septim, but it was conquered by Titus Mede during the Stormcrown Interagnum.
~If your family built a villa where they lived for generations then it was taken over by another family, would that still be your families villa?
The Stormcloaks tried to Support the empire, but after 25 years and constant oppression and the empire doing nothing to stop the dominion, in fact supporting the dominion and brutally quelling any who resisted the dominion, things had to change. Hammerfell defeated the dominion on it's own but lacked the power to finish them off once and for all, had the empire stood united with them rather than abandon them in favour of peace with the thalmor their wouldn't be any need for the numerous rebellions that sprang up after the White-Gold Concordat was signed.
lastly, the Stormcloaks are not racist, hating the imperials is not the race, but those who serve the empire which serves the thalmor openly (seriously, General Tullius even admits the thalmor dictate the legions actions).
To side with the Empire and hate the thalmor is a contradiction, for if you truly hated them why would you serve those who enforce their will?
If you made it this far, thanx for reading, it's all true -'J
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First, the Empire didn't have any strength to crush the Dominion after the Great War. Both sides were tired and weakened and that's why they signed the Concordat. If they had strength, they would have continued the war.
Second, it wasn't the Emperor who kicked Hammerfell out to please the elves. The Redguards wanted to leave themselves, cause they didn't want to accept the terms of peace.
You wrote that Hammerfell lacked the power to finish the Dominion. And the same situation's with Skyrim. Any province won't defeat Aldmeri Dominion on its own, they need to be united. Let's say the Stormcloaks won the civil war. Skyrim leaves the Empire, probably so does High Rock after being disconnected from Cyrodiil. And now we have Aldmeri Dominion, slowly regaining strength, and six separate countries, weakened after civil wars. Thalmor would conquer them one by one, unless they united and fought together.
Lastly, the Stormcloaks are racist. I didn't mean only Imperials, it's natural you dislike your enemies. I meant the Dark Elves, struggling in Windhelm, where nobody cares about them. Argonians at the docks. Khajiit not allowed in cities. Look, in Solitude all the races live in peace and friendship. While walking Windhelm streets all I see and hear are Nords complaining about Dunmeri and Argonians, or vice versa.
And serving the Empire isn't serving the Thalmor. If the Elves enforce the will of the Empire I want to fight for, I should help it, not destroy it further. I dealt with the Stormcloaks threat, now it's time to regain strength and rise againts the Elves.
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Actually, the empire had plenty of strength to crush the dominion, you see hammerfell nearly did it by themselves, and if you recall, Hammerfell was a loyal province of the Empire.
Titus Mede IIΒ officially renounce Hammerfell as an Imperial province, legateΒ Justianus Quintius even wrote "The Redguards, understandably, looked on this as a betrayal" they did not "choose" to leave the empire, Mede kicked them out!
There is more unity without the empire than there is with it! Highrock as we learn in the game has already shut out all aid to the empire for years now, they (given their history) have most likely sided with Hammerfell, and as we learn in game some of the Redguards of Hammerfell are open to an alliance with Skyrim, one even proposing they form a new state to crush the dominion and bring the empire to justice... oh, and lets not forget Morrowind, abandoned by the empire in not one, not two, but *THREE* disasters to plague them, the empires stance being they weren't worth enough to spend resources aiding, the ruling House of Morrowind "Hlaalu" which was the house that supported and relyed on the empire was left without any means of defence against the hordes of Oblivion and the invading Argonians a few short years later, morrowinds salvation came at the hand of House Redoran, who had not trused the empire and created their own guard to defend Morrowind... if not for their intervention all of House Telvani would have perishid. When the Redoran Guard drove the Argonians from the land, the people called for House redoran to take the seat as the ruling house of Morrowind, the displaced members of House Hlaalu resenting this tried to stage a coup and assassinate the leaders of House Redoran. the conspirators were put to death and the remnants of the house faced banishment. at this time Skyrim was an independent nation and it was the High King who came to the Dunmers aid, much of Morrowind was rendered inhospitable after the eruption of red mountain and many dunmer were welcomed into Skyrim, years later when Morrowind had stabalized, most of the dunmer returned, but some chose to stay (I suspect them mostly to be exiles of Hlaalu) as it stands the Dunmer of Morrowind have respect for Skyrim, but not the empire... which we also find out in game are planing an invasion of Morrowind.
Sorry mate, the Stormcloaks are still not racist just because two people unaffiliated to the Stormcloaks and several dunmer and an argonian are! seriously, the dunmer are not a trodden people in windhelm, their own racism and arrogance is what is making their situation what it is. Do you know what the decree of monument is? it's the decree Issued by the high king and signed by the jarls of every hold, in it the dunmer were given a special right as refugees, they had the choice to live untithed to any hold as long as the governed themselves, when the war broke out, the dunmer didn't want to support the army of the city they lived in, and they already didn't pay taxes, Ulfric just gave them the full right that they had enjoyed the benefit of, they were now selfgoverned, as the wanted, and their homes were theirs to maintain
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High King of Skyrim offered home to Dunmer almost 200 years ago. They were happy then, but they say things got worse when Ulfric became the Jarl. You're strange, every person I was talking with so far agreed that the Stormcloaks are racist, even if they sided with them.
I also don't say the Empire is flawless. Both sides have positive and negative traits. The Empire isn't the same as it used to be at the time of Septims.
Even if the Empire had more strength after the war, so had the Dominion. They agreed to finish the war, casue it'd probably end few years later with the same result anyway. And the Redguards were far from defeating the Dominion, they just managed to defend their borders. Don't you think the Thalmor had much more resources on Summerset Isles and in Valenwood? Most of the time the Great War had place in Cyrodiil and Hammerfell, while Elven provinces were barely afected. Even if they lacked the soldiers, so did the men, with the difference that many cities and forts in the Empire were destroyed, while the only thing the Elves lost was money. Their land was barely touched.
Well, don't you think both sides have pros and cons, none of them is objectively good nor bad? But it's the best thing in Skyrim - no matter which side you choose, you can always find plenty of arguments to prove their cause is right. Many historical facts can be interpreted in different ways. We're actually arguing about a conflict that doesn't exist!
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Yes the Dunmer were happier back then, the people catered to their needs, when Ulfric took power he expected them to carry their own weight like every other citizen, no longer would they get preferential treatment, they would have to adapt to equality... which after close to two centuries was difficult for them, it's like a lotery winner living it up till the money runs out.
The redguards did defete the dominion in Hammerfell, and this was all that was left of the dominion forces after the Great War, remember the two divisions of the Aldmeri army that attacked? Arenelya's forces went to hammerfell and Lord Narifins larger force went to Cyrodiil, initially he was only to distract the legion while southwern hammerfell was taken, but after their initial success all remaining aldmeri forces were put into service in cyrodiil, and the did well for a while, then they all got killed... yes, KILLED, the account following the battle of Red Ring says the Aldmeri tried to retreat but their retreat was blocked by General Jonahs Shield wall till every dominion soldier in cyrodiil was dead.
~when you think that Narifins was already the larger of the two forces and then all remaining dominion troops were added to his ranks, then got wiped out and the forces in Hammerfell suffered no less than 50% losses (most likely much higher but 50% is the minimum they could have lost) and in the total war the empire only lost 3 legions (just for reference, every hold in Skyrim has at least 1 legion, the greater Holds have no less than 2 each) the dominion didn't really have much going for it militarily
Well, the dominion lost most of it's military, this was a large portion of their total population that would take many years to rebuild given Altmer maturation, true the empire lost fortifications, but they can be rebuilt, and the dominions money problem was solved by the White-Gold Concordat that pays staggering tributes to them... one of the reasons for the high imperial taxation impoverishing the people of Skyrim.
The only Negative trait in the Stormcloaks is their general lack of tack, this is nothing compared to the empires extensive list that includes bringing public executions of random people to keep the fear of the empire on the people.
I still argue that the Stormcloaks are 100% the good guys, despite a lack of tact, their cause is just, the thalmor cannot be trusted as the empire has decided it can be.. this is why I like so many legion veterans, Joined the Stormcloaks.
I credit the continued intrest in debates like this on the writers of the series -'J
It's been a good chat man, you are a good sport, I know some turn to childish insults completely diminishing respect for their stance, my facts about the empire and Stormcloaks haven't changed, I've explored far to much of the game to ever go back to the legion, but I hope I have given you some good points to ponder and investigate further, when you see in game all i have been saying it true, it hits a little deeper -'J
~ may your road lead you to warm sand :-3
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Isran is a redguard... I think he's the one on the right xD
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Oh, I thought that Isran were a nordic.
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Glad you like it! 
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Yeah! The Dawnguard!
Very cool. Isran looks great! And I like Obi-Wan's sword.Β
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Thanks. 
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Haha, nice that his smithing's high enough!
Jenna has a Daedric War Axe that's enchanted with fire and absorb health for her Dawnguard missions. Its name is "Vampire Bite."
Though, I did manage to swipe a Dragonbone Battleaxe from the Soul Cairn. Now need to give it to a certain farmboy.
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I unlocked the perk even before Dawnguard and I didn't use to use dragon gear then. I took the perk more for fun and my personal satisfaction. Dragonborn makes Dragon armor, right?
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Haha, now I just need to get my smithing up. I want to make dragonscale armor. 
Yes! You need those things for your certain housecarl.
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The quick way to increase smithing is to dig up as much iron ore as you can find, transmut it into gold and silver and make tons of jewelry.
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Well, I know exactly where to go to find iron ore. That's for the tip!!!!
My enchanting is already maxed, though, on the PS3.
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After seeing this I'm curious to know what Serenaooks like in this style!
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After reading this I think I'll draw her too, though I wasn't planning making more of these.
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I think they're kinda cute!
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It's kind of funny seeing Isran look... cute.
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Haha, now that you mention it, you made me laugh, lol!
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