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Apophysis 2.02/Photoshop 7 Full view recommendedIt's a special day here in Argentina. We conmemorate the 30th Anniversary of the bloodiest military coup and dictatorship that followed, in our whole history. The reported toll was of 30000 people killed or missing. Since most of us, directly or indirectly know at least one person who was killed/missing during the 1976/1983 period, the figure is statistically too low...
We still suffer the consequences of that regime and the plan that followed during the 90's...in democracy. It was staged by our ruling class and lots of foreign "aid". The horrors of it are undescribable here.
This part of our story is quite well known in Europe, but went largely unnoticed in the U.S., it was very convenient.
Created this image barely less than a year ago. Though many may find it cool as a BG for dark scenes (including myself), it represents the pains of torment. The horizontal plane below, a torture table. Perhaps got lucky in those days...could have been there...
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Saying thanks 100 times, won't be enough to express my feelings about your insightful words.
I'll respond tomorrow with a bit more time, what you said deserves it 
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Please, take all your time!
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Thanks, it's not easy talking about it.
You are not only a very intelligent person, but you live in a state of awareness that nothing we take for granted comes without a cost to others. Your words are so right and go straight to the bone. Totally agree!
Western Europe had a picture of what was going on here (in the USA nothing as, of course, the State Dept. was an accomplice). We are grateful that Holland, Spain, France, Sweden, Norway, Mexico and other countries accepted many of our citizens that had to leave the country as exiles. Most of the media were collaborators, they lied and hid the horrors. After my service term in the Air Force ended, I let my hair and beard grow, kind of a Che Guevara look. In those days I was a walking "guilty" of anything with this rebellious attitude 
Even today, repressors are under trial and convicted, though the present government wants to stop all of it. Many are still free though, and these monsters walk among us as "normal" citizens.
The story about your experiences is most interesting and presume you have a lot of mixed feelings. We have to live with these and construct our own realities and lives the best we can and with peace of mind. My roots are in Serbia, Germany, Italy and France as first and second generations AND my last name comes originally from Ukraine. There are several conflicts there!
Like you, I also think humans are a lost cause, we never learn, as history repeats itself like a mad wheel. Oh, nearly forgot about your "queen". No comments about her father, you already have a pretty good idea of who he is and we appreciate the attitude the Dutch had about him. A shallow minority here celebrates her royalty status but most of us despise her and don't give a damn. About 15 years ago, I had the chance to have first hand information about her wanderings since her youth. Better don't ask, it's high class triple X.
I'm very glad too, the feeling is mutual dear friend!
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A shocking image. I see the movement in the abstract. I hope your memories are at peace.
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Thanks ElZed! 
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I can't imagine how horrible it was for you. Is it part of the reason for your shrinkage now? I'd like to hear that you are recovering. I feel lucky to have escaped life's ravages too...
Hope things don't go any further than they already are in Canada. Haiti and now Afghanistan...
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No, it's not part of my shrinkage now, not directly related at least. Being in the Armed Forces 2 years befoe, made me used to the military and having pointed guns at by cops and paramilitary as well. Will never recover though for what was done to the country and so many idealists killed, that would have been so valuable if alive today. Minds were the most combated, and we suffer it's consequences today. If there's no reqal justice, reconciliation is impossible. Sadly my dearest friend, no place in the world is saved, no matter if methods are different...more "civilized"
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What was I talking about "shrinkage"? I didn't realise that you'd been in the forces for 2 years. How awful. You are right about the rest. How I wish it doesn't come to that point here.
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LOL, no worries. Served as a draftee as an elite MP in the Air Force for 14 and a half months, 2 years before the coup. Things were nasty already. Have no fear of guns, but for the unpredictable trigger happy ones that handle them.
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I see! I grew up in a gun family (dad, the Great White Hunter) and always hated them. Don't have one around me unless we're in the middle of a war or something, ok? You're right, it's the one who holds the gun....
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Like we say here, guns are loaded by the devil and unloaded by the assholes!
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It's a very powerful piece and I think it conjures the emotion you are trying to get across.
I know what it is like to live under oppressive governments. Thankfully they are becoming more and more of a rarity these days.
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Thanks mate!
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Yes, indeed. I think that's why I am writing my army stories, like I have to flush them from my mind.
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Keep those stories coming then!
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Me gusta la conceptualizacion...
"torment"
Es lo unico que me dice este Fractal y es totalmente distinto a cualquiera que haya visto..
Hay gente que cree que los fractales son simplementes dibujos sin sentidos repetidos constantemente con el objeto de crear algo con lindos colores que genera un movimiento.
Muy bueno
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Agradezco especialmente tus palabras por el sentido que les diste. Salvo las personas que estamos inmersas en fractales, gran parte del resto piensa que son simplemente cosas bonitas en colores y sin capacidad para generar emociones mรกs profundas. Gracias nuevamente!
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You know how I feel friend. Your pain is evident in this image. It says everything you want to convey as it feels chaotic and tormented to me. The bit of red...maybe blood?...really sets the scene here.
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Thank you so much Nancy for your words 
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YOu've managed to make a fractal with a mood that fits the reasons and story behind it. Brilliant work Sergio, there is a huge depth to this one, very well done!!!!
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Thank you so much dear friend, appreciate your words!
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Yor very welcome
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Sergio, My heart goes out to you! This image reflects the anguish of your soul and those of your countrymen, and women. You have imbued this flame with dark dramatic impact. I can't even begin to know how it must feel to have suffered what you have gone through there. I have no basis for real comparison. During the Vietnam War, I was 17 when my brother joined the Army. He was shipped out, of course, to Vietnam. It was a year of hell, of wondering and waiting. We were so fortunate, he came back. He has malaria, but he came back. That war took a young farm boy and turned him into a haunted man, and he is still haunted. But those things happened on foreign soil. Even our experiences with the Oklahoma City Bombing, and the World Trade Center, as horrible as they were, don't compare, in my opinion, to having a bloody war fought on your own soil! It must have been horrendous to live in that kind of constant fear. War is the outward manifestation of the lust for power and greed that mankind has. Blessings my friend, to you and yours! 
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Thank you dearly for your words!. Yes, having a war in our own soil, was a nasty experience. The first 3 years were the worst. Most of the people was exterminated then. But this was a process that started somewhere between 1959/60. The extermination plan was on. For some years before the 1976 coup, there were already killings and people missing. These were staged by a democratic Gov through something called the Triple A (Argentine Anticommunist Alliance), which were nothing else but Death Squad's. It was during the 1973/74 period that I had to serve in the Armed Forces. Besides the open war "against" guerrillas in some parts of the territory, there were the urban combats. Problem was that the "enemy" was not such. The real one was State terrorism, those in power!!. They could kick your home's door down, beat the shit out of you, before taking you to a clandestine detention center, going through torture and being killed and/or eventually being thrown to the sea from an airplane, if not murdered right away in a fake "armed encounter". Many horribly tortured mutilated corpses were washed ashore however. Thanks to newer DNA techniques, some were finally identified recently. There's a further ongoing search, that of babies that were born while their mothers were in captivity, that were handed over to members of the police, armed forces, etc. If pregnancy was advanced, torturers waited till the mother gave birth, handed the child over and killed the mother next. If it wasn't, they didn't care much and killed them both. Some of these former babies were found and their identity restored. Some returned to their families, some preferred to stay with their appropriators. Too many and long stories to tell.
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My God, Sergio, I didn't know that! I can see I need to do some research! Doesn't sound that much different than Hitler's Death Squads. This is so sad!
I hate war! I feel that most politicians are war-mongers. A somewhat older term, not used much these days. Some people think war is the answer to everything. It makes me sick, and sick at heart.
I can't imagine Sergio, how horrible it must have been, must still be!
Bless you, dear heart!
Leann
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And that dictatorship as a swan song, had no better idea than to invade and recover the Malvinas (Falklands) Islands in April 1982, stolen by the British in 1833, I guess. Sooooo, we had a war with the U.K. to complete the scene, and won't get the islands back in a loooooong time now.
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Yes, sweets, that one I remember! Sucks huh? Like I said, I hate war. First of all my belief is that we belong to the land, the land doesn't belong to us! It is mankind's insatiable lust for money and power that freezes the heart and deadens the conscience. Sergio, You don't know how many times I wish someone would make a movie, of alternative history, where the Native Americans went to Europe, the Dutch to America and took the people who lived here, to Africa. Turn it all around so that the story is basically the same, but the peoples switch destiny's. Talk about stirring up trouble, it would, I think, in a major way! As a race of beings, I believe we have a fatal flaw within, and it will lead to our ultimate destruction. Heavy topic before noon huh?
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Alternative "what if" history, very fascinating indeed, though it would be basically the same thing on different scenarios, like you well suggested. The Sumerians say that we are the product of some unfinished eventually failed genetic experiment. As things stand, tend to believe these people were too right!!
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Yes, I have read that very interesting account as to how this planet was peopled, according to Sumerian legend. Very interesting food for thought!
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LOL, I don't (in it's meaning), just HAD to post it for you people to know. THANKS!
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Thank you so much Deb, appreciate it!
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Wow thats alot, I didn't know that hapened
Beautiful pic, sad though
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Yes Kat, a big portion of the world has no idea of what happened here. Some champions of "freedom, democracy and human rights" would have been very embarrassed if it was known..
Thanks sweetie!
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Thank you very much Steve!
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A bad time indeed.
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the display of agony, depression, confusion is perfect. I hate to think what greedy people did to the working-class of your beautiful country. when ever I complain I get to hear: who said live is fair. Yes it isn't.
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Thank you dearly Barbara.
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It's scaring how easely people can be manipulated and decived all over the world over and over again. I wonder why history is still tought at school. It's utterly useless.
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Very true indeed!!. Our society was brain-washed for years before the coup, only way it could happen with little resistance AND...popular support. But we learned the lesson the hard way...not all...
The history that is taught at schools from my personal experience, is something that doesn't teach students how to reason the relationships of certain events with others. History gets isolated of context, and is just a string of happenings, names and dates devoid of content. Only a few teachers broke the mold, and taught us to be inquisitive and look beyond what's apparent. Btw, some of these were killed or are missing too.
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that's what I mean. history teaching is a waste of time at school. the rulers of the world are often so full of themselfs and think they can do everything better where as they repeat mistakes that had been made a hundret times before their time. instead of getting civilised we degenerate more and more, moraly and ethically. I rather play with apo than read the newspaper's front pages these days.
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