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Riddler really rocking those green tights and leotard!!Β
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John Astin of the Addams Family fame also played the Riddler at one point.
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His riddles seem elusive, but they're not, as long as you're smart enough to figure them out.
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amazing job, Frank Gorshin was amazing. However I personally prefer John Glovers voice acting as Riddler in the Animated Series
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have to admit though, of the two, I think Gorshin had more fun
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I always found Gorshin's Riddler to be the scariest villain BY FAR in the old Batman show. I didn't even realize until I read the Killing Joke years later, that Joker was supposed to be the top rogue.
If the had it to do over, they probably would have cast Gorshin as the Joker. He was certainly more intense than Caesar Romero.
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agreed with whole comment. Even Jim Carrey's Riddler seemed a pale impression of what Gorshin brought to the screen 
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I blame that on the director.
Jim Carrey could have done a fine Riddler, and Tommy Lee Jones could have done an awe inspiring Harvey Dent, (So could Billy Dee Williams, but that's a matter for later discussion. 
Joel Schumaher is the Joe Chill of the Batman movie franchise. He took something pretty good, and so utterly violated it that it had to be brought back from nothingness by a competent director years later. (Hmmm, I guess for the purposes of this metaphor that makes Chris Nolan into Batman. Works for me. 
*Yes, I am not emboldening Schumacher's name on purpose as a sign of my bottomless contempt. FYI
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Sorry, I'm black, and I really can't see Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent/Two-Face (perhaps maybe Marashala Ali or some other actor in a future movie.
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I remember an episode of a later season of A Different World, in which Williams appeared. Since he was so prominently featured, I figured his appearance was either a soft pilot for a spinoff, or the premier of regular character.
Billy Dee played the coolest college professor imaginable. He was his typical suave, debonair, cool guy self for most of the episode, until he noticed the abusive boyfriend from season five's "Love Taps", back to terrify his ex.
Billy Dee's character sent the guy packing, with a turn-on-a-dime shift, from suave to serious, that I always thought would have been perfect for Two Face.
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least he apologized...but the damage had already been done by that point
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He apologized?
That's unheard of. Usually people never admit to even the most heinous of missteps--especially entertainment types.
Like you said, the damage had been done, but I glean a small bit of solace to know that Shumacher experienced some faint acknowledgement of his incompetence.
I guess I can break down my sniper's nest now.
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yeah, go check it out..he really made a formal apology to the batman fans for his work on Forever and Batman and Robin. i think its on youtube? [link]
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Actually, the Schuamcher movies are Warner Bros' fault. After the ultra-dark "Batman Returns", they hired a figurehead director and forced him to make the next two movies more childish and kid-friendly so they could more easily sell action figures, notebooks, calendars, stickers and McDonalds Happy Meals.
Of course, they went too far and made them so childish and kid-friendly that they became unwatchable.
And that's what pisses me off: Warner Bros, the true culprits behind "Forever" and "Batman and Robin", didn't pay for their crimes. No loss of money, no firings, no shakeups, nothing. Worse, after the Nolan movies evetyone praises Warner Bros while forgetting that it was Warner Bros who killed the Batman movie series to begin with.
And that speaks of the hypocrisy of people when dealing with those eternal rivals, Disney and Warner Bros: when a Disney movie fails, everyone blames it on Disney. When a Warner Bros movie fails, everyone blames it on the director or the producers or the actors, even if the real fault for the failure lies in Warner Bros.
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And the fault of this was most of the helicopter parents of (North) America, who wanted to see a version of Batman that was like the 1966 TV show (an incident that I observed back in the 1990's at a comic book store here in Toronto involved a women wanting a comic book for her sons that was like the 1966 Batman show because the one based on B: TAS was 'too dark'[she wouldn't let her kids watch the show.])
Most of the people now praising the The LEGO Batman Movie fail to understand that the character had a very dark beginning, and was dark for the first few years from 1939 (and Superman was a rough violent guy from 1938 onward) and as nice as theΒ The LEGO Batman Movie was, people need to understand that the character is kinda best when it's dark (or semi-dark as on B: TAS)-the genesis of the character is that he was the product of a horrible crime inflicted on him.
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exactly
the same thing happened with the Golden Harvest TMNT films; the crew that worked on Ninja Turtles 2 and 3 were instructed to make it more kid friends and had to work with a smaller budget (that's why Jim Henson's company didn't work on the third film)
Speaking of money, that's why Richard Donner was fired from Superman; he went too overbudget by shooting 1 and 2 together and refused to make the first movie campy. Superman 2 was fine, but afterwards the company went overboard with saving money, thus making the crap-fests known as Superman 3 and 4. They tried to fix it with Superman Returns, but the damage was already done.
Also, Schumacher wanted to make a darker Batman film (specifically based on Batman Year One). He was even going to make at least one more in the series (working title was Batman Triumphant), which would've had Scarecrow, Mad Hatter, Man-Bat, Catwoman, Joker (hallucinations) and Harley Quinn; it was canceled after Batman and Robin (although supposedly Schumacher claimed he wants to bring it to life via a comic book).
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I greatly disagree with this
Bat-Mite said it best...
"Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a lighter incarnation, but is certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots as the tortured avenger, crying out for mommy and daddy."
Batman can be both light and dark. Sure, too much campiness is bad, but too much darkness and brooding is just as bad.
Stuff like "The Lego Batman Movie" or "Return of the Caped Crusaders" are meant to be homages to the Silver Age Batman, which is just as worthy as any other interpretation of Batman.
It's the same with Ninja Turtles...the rich history and mythology of TMNT allow the lighter side to co-exist with the darker side.
So yeah, I don't take kindly to your knee-jerk reaction that any version of Batman that draws from the Silver Age is inherently bad.
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Don't get me wrong; there are a lot of Silver Age aspects I like, including (but not limited to)
General Zod (he debuted in the Silver Age)
Bizarro
Mr. Mxyzptlk
Barbara Gordon as Batgirl
the Adam West Batman
Calendar Man
Ten-Eyed Man
The New Adventures of Superman (the cartoon that got Bud Collyer back as Superman after the 1940s)
Superfriends (it went into the Bronze age, but started with Silver)
Same with Batman the Brave and the Bold
And yeah, too much dark and brooding can be bad (I'm looking at you, Frank Miller)
the problem with the third Ninja TurtlesΒ movie is that it didn't use any real Ninja Turtle villains (after all, Shredder was actually a minor villainΒ in the Mirage comics)
The same goes with Superman 3 (Dudley Moore was supposed to be Mr. Mxyzptlk)
The Silver Age had some great moments, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't wear out its welcome after awhile
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Wasn't there another Riddler before Gorshin with a mustache and black hair? I saw him on a Hub rerun but never caught the name.
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he came after gorshin. Gorshin was the first
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Yes. Thank you.
Eh, he was okay, but Gorshin was the better Riddler by far.
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agreed
not as over-the-top as Gorshin was
plus Astin was another case of an actor who didn't shave the mustache for the part
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Exllcent one of Frank Gorshin riddler
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Excellent job on the Riddler. Hope you do a suit variation one day. That one was always my favorite.
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yeah, the formal wear was cool, but this was more notably his "evil schemer" suit
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As cool as the bowler hat is, it comes second to the top hat imo.
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My favorite Riddler ever. Frank Gorshin is the man!
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