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Seth45 — FS Class 438 Kiel
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Published: 2008-08-12 17:22:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 13958; Favourites: 87; Downloads: 362
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Design for a stealth corvette, maybe even frigate, based on the Swedish Visby-Class. Armed with an OTO-76mm stealth gun, RAM, MLG-27 light cannon, 2x3 torpedo launchers, 2x4 Harpoon.Made with resources from Shipbucket [link]
Edit: changed position of MLG-27 and RAM for use of the RAM even when a helicopter is on board
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Okay, hier ist meine Meinung. Ich bin kein Techniker, aber recht interessierter Laie.
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Die "Kiel" hier sieht gut aus, ein gutes Fahrzeug für Nord- und Ostsee und geeignet für Überwachungsmissionen, wie sie die Marine ja jetzt "gern" übernimmt.
Vom "Look" her ein bisschen schwedisch. Die Bundesmarine würde wahrscheinlich eine andere Brückenkonfiguration nutzen, aber für eine Stealth-Korevette voll okay.
Bewaffnung ist gut und balanciert. Natürlich sagt die momentane Doktrin, dass RAM eine 360-Grad Abdeckung haben sollte (also zwei System), doch das 76mm Geschütz (ich nehme an, dass es eine Super-Rapid) Konfiguration ist, kann die Raketenabwehraufgabe bewältigen. Dieses müsste allerdings durch passive Sensoren geleitet werden, denn ich sehe kein Feuerleitgerät für das Geschütz.
Kleines Manko : Der RAM-Werfer und das 27mm Geschütz sollten ihre Plätze tauschen, damit RAM auch bei gelandetem Helikopter feuern kann. In seiner momentanen Position ist der Werfer sehr eingeschränkt. Ich weiss, es sind Lenkraketen, aber in der Raketenabwehrrolle zählt jede Sekunde.
Das 27mm MLG kann auch ans Heck veschoben werden, um größere Abdeckung zu erzielen. Maschinengewehre oder Granatmaschinenwaffen können seitlich aufgesetzt werden, um diesen Teil abzudecken.
Wasserstrahlantrieb ist eine gute Sache für Schiffe dieser Größe, da sie dadurch in flachere Gewässer können.
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Lade gleich eine korrigierte Version hoch. (MLG und RAM getauscht)
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Cool design
Sollt der Hubschrauber einer NH-90 sein?
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Didn't the "latest generation" stealth turret have this long "nose," where the barrel is tucked when not in use? U know, on the new american LCS [link] That'd actually look cool. [link]
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Here are all the guns I can use, tell me which you mean and I'll give it a try.
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OTO 76/62 ER stealth looks like it. Shouldn't a multipurpose vessel of this sort have a bigger gun, some 105mm or something? They had 76.2mm guns on river boats in the 2nd WW.
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The OTO was my first idea of the ship's armament too but I tried it again and it looks much too big for a ship of this size. It almost takes the place of the half bow (I hope it's the right word). And 76mm is a common caliber for smaller ships, this is just a corvette or maybe frigate. and modern ammo makes even this caliber a killer. In addition cannons are usually only used when missiles are too expensive.
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Short question, I don't know much about your military but isn't you equipment very russian influenced?
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All for the sake of cheapness and scavenging for resupplies in case of war. We have some old ZIL and GAZ trucks, our main assault rifle is based on the AK (ours is the FINEST version of it, even the Galil is based on our Rk) some AT guns and older armored vehicles: the Bemari (BMP1/2), älli-tälli (a few versions of MB-TL), the 23mm Sergei cannons, our thermometers, some of our older jeeps, some Petteri BTR-50s. Everything else has been phased out, and the rest will follow suit in a few years.
Actually, there was a tornari (torni-huhu, tower-rumor, a military rumor) about how the soviets designed the ZIL trucks for the invasion of Africa, where they'd be dropped from planes and 1/10 would make it intact, while the rest were used for spare parts. And from the getgo they were disposable: the gas tanks were sealed. Some russian officers viewing our stuff some years ago were confused as to how we had refuelable ZILs.
BUT NEVER FEAR, OLD RUST SHALL COWER FROM PROGRESS, for we have MASI trucks, PASI and AMV APCs, CV9030FIN IFVs and LEOPARD 2 MBTs!!! EVEN THE THERMOMETERS WE STICK IN OUR PATIENTS' BUTTS WILL BE... oh, wait, why would we waste doe for new thermometers?
Other than our rifles and some rolling relics, our gear is fully western.
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Many of the names are military slang.
I dunno if it's just BS, but I heard from our armormen that the leos are frankly second-hand shit. I heard that one of them had the entire engine crusted and marinated in mud, another had peltor earmuffs lodged in the depths of the engine block. And they discovered it AFTER an exercise. I myself saw one tank had thrown its track in an exercise.
But, MAN, I could not fully describe the experience of hanging on the top of an MT-LB APC going 40km/h up&down a forest road, with nothing but the edge of the top hatch and a grip on cargo harnesses to keep you on it. one like this: [link]
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I never heard about big trouble with our own Leopards maybe you got the older models while we kept the best for us^^. And I can imagine how cool it is to be on a tank off-road. But I guess I will probably never get this kind of experience myself, even though I'd really be interested.
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Here's a good thing to know, but I dunno if it's another tornari, but... We got enough heavy AT missile launchers (APILAS etc.) for every MBT the russians have on our borders. LAWs can pick out the rest.
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Do you mean the few that are still able to move or all, even the ones that are just dummies?^^
Nah, I know that you people took care of the northern borders during the cold war.
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