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Published: 2016-11-10 04:37:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 750; Favourites: 6; Downloads: 2
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Eh, I made this flag a long time ago, just thought I'd upload it given the recent #calexit and the increase popularity of YesCalifornia. Not my best flags, but meh, hope you guys like it.Pfft I've been a secessionist before it was even cool....
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That name is wrong because there was never a ''first republic''.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californ…
There was, it was an unrecognized state, and didn't last long. It gave up once the Americans arrived basically.
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Hmm But It was a state that never had recognition nor truly existed because the Bear Flaggers had neither full control of the Alta California nor the support of the Spanish speaking Californio population. Rather, they faced resistance from the Mexican army and civilians.
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Indeed, but that doesn't change the fact that the so-called "California Republic" still existed (it had land, it had a flag, it had an army, that is all some people care about when it comes to the definition of a nation), thus would be considered the 1st Republic in the eyes of a Californian Nationalist, secessionist, ETC. A nation can either exist,or not exist, never both or in-between. The CSA was a full fledgling nation, though it was never recognized by anyone (it was close to being recognized by Europe in some instances). The California Republic wasn't a fledgling nation, I'd like to compare it more to a rebel group. It held territory, it had a flag, but had no centralized government, nor full control over it's de-jure territory.
Anyway, when it comes to the flag, and the term "second republic" is mainly perspective based. If someone was bearing this flag, they'd probably be a nationalist, and to them the California Republic was a nation, thus there was a first republic. A person may think otherwise, and to them the "California Republic" never truly existed for the fact that it basically was just a bunch of rebels running about with a bear on their flag. The hole point of the flag was suppose to be a Protest flag, obscure, overly biased meaning, etc. I generally do not like to think to much about a flag I shat out when I was bored one day, and a flag that I never intended on uploading imo. It's still nice to have discussions though.
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Well, I think that the so-called "California Republic" never existed because..
The Bear Flag revolt 30 or so belligerent immigrants (Not one of them were born in Upper California) , not complying with the Mexican government, claiming to take posession of something that was not theirs to begin with, then had the audacity to claim they had a President, though no government was ever organized...
Nueva or Alta California was a poor and sparsely populated province but loyal to the Spanish empire. In 1818 there was an attempt by a Buenos Aires-sponsored privateer, Hippolyte de Bouchard, to win the royalist Governatore of Nueva California for the cause of Spanish American Revolution.
By 1818 in several regions of Spanish America, revolutionary movements had recently appeared, seeking independence from Spain against the Royalist sympathizers. Most of these movements met misfortune and quickly were suffocated, with their leaders executed or forced to leave the country.
In many respects, this was the case of Mexico and the movement begun by Father Hildalgo and Miguel Allende in 1810. Although both leaders
were executed in 1811, the ideals were taken up by yet another priest, Father Morelos, who after four year of struggle was also taken prisoner by the Royalists and executed in 1815.
On the other hand, the Argentine Revolution was very successful. Self-rule began in May 1810, and independence was declared in 1816. Two very
important battles fought and won by General Belgrano in 1812 and 1813 were essential in the war for independence and eliminated Royalist domination within the current Argentine borders.
However, since many other similar movements on the continent had been suppressed, the government of Buenos Aires (Argentina) started a continentwide campaign to revive and help the insurgency against the Royalist forces elsewhere in Spanish America. In part, it feared it might face the same fate of Mexico and other similar movements.
The Buenos Aires government’s purpose was “...to promote and help the ideals of freedom and independence...” It financed General San Martín’s expedition across the Andes to help the Chilean and Peruvian revolutions— its success was key to preserving Argentine independence. In 1817, San Martín’s army was victorious in the battle of Maipú, regaining Chile’s independence, and by 1821 San Martín declared the independence of Perú. Finally, San Martín reached Guayaquil, Ecuador, and met Simón Bolívar; their armies joined forces to continue the struggle and secured independence for Spanish America after the battle of Ayacucho in 1824. Much of the credit is due to the leaders of the Argentine revolution that, against many odds, continued supporting and assisting movements against the Spanish Royalists across the entire continent.
In October of 1818, Argentine privateer Captain Hippolyte de Bouchard set sail to North America with 30 Hawaiians that Kamehameha I had given to Bouchard as part of the crew. The Chacabuco, also known as the Santa Rosa, was commanded by Peter Corney, an English sailor and explorer.
Bouchard had received news of a new insurrection in Mexico under the leadership of Francisco Xavier Minas, and set course to give support to the
movement. Minas was a Spanish officer banished from Spain for his ideals.
In London, Minas organized an expedition to help fight the “absolutism of the Spanish Monarch”. He landed in Texas with the help of yet another
privateer from Buenos Aires, Commodore Luis Aury, on 15 April 1817. His fight was misunderstood and did not get the popular support he had expected. He was executed 11 November 1817.
Bouchard and Corney visited Alta California’s Fort Ross, a Russian settlement north of Monterey, to obtain needed supplies.
On November 20th, a sentinel at Point Pinos sighted the ships and reported their approach to the Spanish authorities at Monterey. The Chacabuco
anchored in the Monterey harbor, while the Argentina stood off at some distance.
Bouchard and Corney were rowed ashore to meet Governor Pablo Vicente de Solá. The governor rejected Bouchard’s demand for joining to the Patriot cause, and Bouchard and Corney returned to their respective ships. The Chacabuco opened fire and the guns of the presidio answered,
damaging the Chacabuco. The Argentina entered the harbor and anchored in a position from which she could defend the Chacabuco from further attack.
The following morning Bouchard landed with some 200 men: 130 had rifles and 70 had spears. They landed 7 km (4.3 mi) away from the fort in a hidden creek. The fort resisted ineffectively, and after an hour of combat the Argentine Flag flew over it, forcing Solá to retreat.
The Argentinians took Monterey for six days, during which time they stole the cattle and burned the fort, the artillery headquarters, the governor's residence and the Spanish houses. The town's residents were unharmed.
On 29 November they left Monterey, passed Point Conception, and anchored off of Refugio Canyon, about twenty miles west of Santa Barbara, where they went to the hacienda of the Ortega family rancho. Bouchard was told the family had strongly supported the Spanish cause. On 5 December the Argentinians disembarked near the farm and, meeting no resistance, took all the food, killed the cattle, and slit the throats of the saddle horses in the corrals. A small squadron of cavalry, sent by José de la Guerra y Noriega from the Santa Barbara Presidio, waited quietly nearby for an opportunity to capture some stragglers. They captured an officer and two sailors, whom they brought back to the Presidio in chains. Bouchard waited for them the whole day, because he thought they were lost, until he decided to burn the farm and go to Mission Santa Barbara, where the three men could have been taken as prisoners. Once he arrived at Santa Bárbara, and seeing the town was heavily defended (in reality, what Bouchard saw through his spyglass was the same small troop of cavalry, which stopped and changed costume each time it passed behind a heavy clump of brush), the privateer sent a messenger to speak to the governor. After the negotiation the three captured men returned to the Santa Rosa and Bouchard freed one prisoner.
On 16 December the ships weighed anchor and headed to San Juan Capistrano. There he requested food and ammunition; a Spanish officer said "he had enough gunpowder and cannonballs for me". Threats annoyed Bouchard; he sent one hundred men to take the town. After a short fight the corsairs took some valuables and burned the Spanish houses. On 20 December he left for Vizcaíno Bay, where he repaired the ships and allowed his men to rest.
This ended Bouchard’s attempt to subvert the Spanish colonial government of Alta California. He believed Solá would be forced to surrender
since nearly all the soldiers were Mexicans. Revolt was spreading in the rest of Mexico. Most of the 3,000 settlers were Mexicans, and San Diego, he was assured, was ready to support him. But the little force at Monterey remained loyal to the Spanish crown.
However, the movement toward a break with the old world was spreading
in México. In 1822, Governor Solá wrote that he had received from Mexico City “such documents as are printed in a country of dreamers, since
independence was a dream”.
Two months later word reached him that the dream had come true. Later Solá would serve as the delegate of Alta California to the Iturbide administration, becoming loyal to the Mexican independence that he had once
condemned.
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