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Description EDIT; Oh dear god this has been up for so long but people can't take the hint
I. DONT. CARE. WHAT. YOU. THINK. ABOUT. DOVEWING.
I hate her, let me have my opinions on my own damn drawings
I'm not bashing you if you like her, but I don't want to have every dove lover on my face telling me that she's awesome and shit


I did this WHOLE DAY!
Just had to be done because Ivypool is epic c:
I hate Dovewing.. Or whatever her name is

Lionblaze, Jayfeather, Dovewing, Ivypool, Hawkfrost, Tigerstar and Brokenstar by Erin hunter
Art and desings by ~Shakshun
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Comments: 112

Shakshun In reply to ??? [2016-10-24 07:46:47 +0000 UTC]

What you have to do is note that this picture is 5 years old and I don't care about warriors in general anyway.
However, as this is my art I'm allowed to voice my own opinion on why and why not I want or don't want to hear about people's views on certain characters or images. People's opinions on Dovewing have nothing to do with this piece, therefore I didn't want to hear them. This would be a different story if this picture was centered on Dovewing, which it still isn't, after 5 years. What's happening in the comments, is mostly my frustration on people not reading the description. As you can see, I'm being "snappy" (as you describe it) to both Dovewing lovers and haters. I'm trying to enforce a rule in there, it's nothing more or less. I haven't even been particularly rude to anyone, reminding them to read the description isn't "rude". If you can't stand being corrected, don't write comments or read them.

I don't see why you have to come to a deviation that's 5 years old on my mostly dead deviantart to try and moralize me or my actions when I was just a younger child. I don't particularly appreciate that either. Why should've I disabled comments when most people can discuss Ivypool here regularly and don't have to bring her sister into the business?

I see you like Dovewing, that's probably why you're here. If you're actually 21 years old you should know better. It's not worth it in all honesty. Check the update date of the art next time, it'll save us all some trouble. Me not liking Dove isn't a personal attack on anyone, and if you take it as such you probably shouldn't be on here.

Sigh.

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Shaded-Velvet In reply to Shakshun [2016-10-24 23:02:41 +0000 UTC]

And by the way, I actually respect opinions. I'm not a crazy Dovewing fan who bashes on others because they like Ivypool. Yes, I can be rather overprotective of her, but I actually can handle opinions, thank you very much. 

I just didn't like the way how rude you were to others. Sorry if I misunderstood, but I don't appreciate you telling me how I shouldn't be on here. 

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Shakshun In reply to Shaded-Velvet [2016-10-25 09:09:05 +0000 UTC]

If you think that telling people to "read the description again" is rude, that's your problem and not mine. You obviously don't respect me, my art or anything of the sort for you to seek out a 5 year old deviation to attack me for absolutely no reason.

Again, if you're actually 21, you should know better.

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Shaded-Velvet In reply to Shakshun [2016-10-25 15:39:54 +0000 UTC]

No, actually I think that your other comments in the actual section, not the description, is rude. I told you you were fine in the description. 

Lol, I wasn't even attacking you? If I were attacking you, I would have insulted you for having an opinion. Which I wasn't. 

Whatever. You obviously don't know me. I'm not wasting my time and you're putting words into my mouth at this point. 

There is a difference between "correcting" and "attacking".

Since you told me I shouldn't be on either if I felt "attacked" then maybe you should do the same since you feel "attacked" also. Even though I wasn't "attacking" you smh. Maybe blunt, but not attacking. 

I swear people nowadays use the word "attack" for everything. And I genuinely don't feel like I was attacking you. Perhaps I was blunt, but nothing I said should have made you feel like you were attacked. If I was really attacking you, then I would have been a lot worse. 

Yes, I am 21, thank you for pointing out how I should know more about everything. I do know more than you think. I'm not a brat who "attacks" people. 

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Shakshun In reply to Shaded-Velvet [2016-10-25 15:53:59 +0000 UTC]

This deviation is still 5 years old. I don't see any reason for you to purposely seek out this massively old deviation to try and demoralize me. I consider purposefully seeking out old things that I've done / said 5 years ago to be an attack. 

The only person wasting everyone's time here is you. If you would've bothered to use your head a little to look through my profile or the statistics of this picture, you'd know I'm not active, and this was uploaded. 5. years. ago. You haven't corrected me.

Where was I being rude? How is telling people to read the description rude? Do you get triggered from watching youtube videos where the person suggests you to read the description too? I've been talking about my comments throughout this pointless conversation. Let me fetch you some of my answers from 3-5 years ago, and you tell me how I'm rude.

"Where did I say her name to be anything else?
Also I suggest you read the description and the update date one more time." How am I rude here? I'm asking the person a question regarding their comment, and suggesting they read the description again. Rude, where?

"Please read the description one more time. " Look here, again I'm suggesting a person to read the description again. Rude?? Is this rude to you?

"Didn't you read the description? I said I didnt want opinions on the matter, let alone a huge comment of it, that has asolutely nothing with this drawing, expect the character.
Please, read the description next time.." Here again, I'm questioning of the person read the description. They wrote a huge comment about their opinions on Dovewing. Where am I rude here?

Just a few examples. I'm not rude, I'm directing people to read the description one more time.

It's humorous how you have to feel entitled enough to try and "correct" my 13 year old self after I've turned 18. Again, if you're 21, you should know better.

Edit; good going there, editing your comment to not appear so completely misinformed. Jeez. How about you just leave me alone already? This entire thing is completely pointless.

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Shaded-Velvet In reply to Shakshun [2016-10-24 22:59:00 +0000 UTC]

Um, that's actually not why I am here, thank you very much. I came and commented NOT because I like Dovewing, yes I do, but that is not the reason, but because you have been snappy and rude to other people. 

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OtterlyKath In reply to Shaded-Velvet [2016-10-25 16:01:29 +0000 UTC]

> User has been as quoted by you 'snappy and rude' to others in the comments.
> You come to tell them this /5 years later/ for what reason exactly?

People change. You're causing a fuss for nothing. If you would like people to be kinder to those when they are apparently acting rude to others then perhaps find a user who has acted this way more recently. Thanks.

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Shaded-Velvet In reply to OtterlyKath [2016-10-25 18:33:19 +0000 UTC]

How about not getting involved with something that I just abandoned. Thanks. Not even gonna waste my time with you. I am sure your friend can fight their own arguments. 

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Shakshun In reply to Shaded-Velvet [2016-10-25 18:55:58 +0000 UTC]

Lol I still gotta say that you abandoned the argument you started because it turned out I was right? I can very well fight my own arguments it seems. Good lord.

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OtterlyKath In reply to Shaded-Velvet [2016-10-25 18:54:05 +0000 UTC]

Cool, just stating the facts so that we're all clear.

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Berrythorn [2015-05-26 20:45:17 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful job. Ivypool looks so epic in this picture, I'm at a loss for words.  

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wolfraingirlhunter [2014-07-29 04:19:40 +0000 UTC]

err her name is dovewing. and in way you kind of feel sorry for her.

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Shakshun In reply to wolfraingirlhunter [2014-07-29 09:41:07 +0000 UTC]

Where did I say her name to be anything else?
Also I suggest you read the description and the update date one more time.

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wolfraingirlhunter In reply to Shakshun [2014-07-29 15:10:24 +0000 UTC]

I did read it just talling you, no need to bite my head off

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Shakshun In reply to wolfraingirlhunter [2014-07-29 15:13:14 +0000 UTC]

I'm not biting your head off, the description clearly states that I do not want to discuss Dovewing under any circumstances, and you still disregard it and comment on it.
Again I haven't called her anything other than Dovewing anyway, so I don't know what you went on about.

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ComicKhajiit [2014-07-28 20:05:52 +0000 UTC]

Omg I agree with you I HATE Dungwing!!!!!

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Shakshun In reply to ComicKhajiit [2014-07-29 09:41:28 +0000 UTC]

Please read the description one more time. 

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ComicKhajiit In reply to Shakshun [2014-07-29 11:03:42 +0000 UTC]

I did and I agree that I hate her and the drawing is awesome.

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Shakshun In reply to ComicKhajiit [2014-07-29 11:06:10 +0000 UTC]

It's quite old but yeah I'd rather not discuss Dovewing.

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ComicKhajiit In reply to Shakshun [2014-07-29 11:38:45 +0000 UTC]

Then why'd you respond to me?

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Shakshun In reply to ComicKhajiit [2014-07-29 11:46:38 +0000 UTC]

This is my deviation and I feel the need to clear things up. Let's drop the subject now, I'd rather not see you or anyone purposefully pick a fight with me.

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ComicKhajiit In reply to Shakshun [2014-07-29 12:52:25 +0000 UTC]

Oh no I'm sorry :c I wasn't picking a fight and I didn't realize it's yours. God I'm stupid and I'm sorry.

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Shakshun In reply to ComicKhajiit [2014-07-29 13:00:04 +0000 UTC]

It's fine, no worry about it!

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ComicKhajiit In reply to Shakshun [2014-07-29 13:02:29 +0000 UTC]

Ok then your great so just keep it up!

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Angla963 [2013-12-11 02:20:00 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful~! I love the shading and the markings especially!

I dislike Dovewing as well.

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Shakshun In reply to Angla963 [2013-12-11 13:16:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! This is quite old thoug haha

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Angla963 In reply to Shakshun [2013-12-11 23:57:18 +0000 UTC]

Still awesome though.

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cheetahclaw [2013-07-05 06:00:01 +0000 UTC]

I don't really think Dovepaw should have been a prophecie cat, hollyleaf should have been. Ivypaw is a cat I have to love, Dovepaw just rubs everything in her face. Dovepaw deserved to be in Antpelts place! I love the picture though. Even though they ain't the right colour, you worked hard and I respect that.

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Shakshun In reply to cheetahclaw [2013-07-05 08:27:28 +0000 UTC]

Oh boy this is so old. Just wait for the remake I will do one day haha

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plutoarmada [2013-03-29 04:01:13 +0000 UTC]

I have read the descript, I don't
like Dovewing eather...

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thefierydeath [2013-02-04 03:20:39 +0000 UTC]

Loves me some Ivypool

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PercyJackson7 [2013-01-12 07:38:27 +0000 UTC]

I agree, I just love Ivypool

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poppyswirls22 [2012-12-31 01:22:17 +0000 UTC]

oh and i love this, it is beautiful

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poppyswirls22 [2012-12-31 01:21:38 +0000 UTC]

when i first discovered Dovewing and Ivypool, while i was reading warriors, Dovewing was my favorite cat. for some reason i came to love her sister and hate Dovewing, i began to think she was just too perfect. i don't really know why i started thinking things about her, i suppose it might be becuase when i was thinking of making a short warrior fanfiction (but the computer i wrote it on broke and i lost it) i imagined Ivypool and the mother of the protagonist of my story. after spending weeks thinking about and wrighting about Ivypool and her daughter that i kinda just started hated Dovewing but loving her sister. i shouldn't write so much, i am boring myself just reading over my comment.

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Shakshun In reply to poppyswirls22 [2012-12-31 14:23:23 +0000 UTC]

Didn't you read the description? I said I didnt want opinions on the matter, let alone a huge comment of it, that has asolutely nothing with this drawing, expect the character.
Please, read the description next time..

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pyros2000 [2012-11-20 02:37:42 +0000 UTC]

I quite frankly hate Dove because I know how Ivypool feels.

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cqpkytty [2012-08-27 00:30:39 +0000 UTC]

Dovewing is awesome.
I mean, of course Ivypool is too, I just feel obliged to defend Dovewing. Why do you hate her? Responding to some of the comments:
1) Dovewing isn't mean, or ignorant, and she DEFINITELY does not rub her powers in anyone's faces.
2) I dunno, you can have your own opinion, but Dovewing doesn't seem at all like a Mary Sue to me.

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Shakshun In reply to cqpkytty [2012-08-27 12:00:20 +0000 UTC]

Guess what?
I know everyone has their opinions, they're free to have those
but don't you know, that once I've published MY opinion on a fictional cat, it doesnt exactly mean that everyone who likes Dovewing can come and tell me their opinions about the cat
because I simply dont care
If dovewing seems like a sue to me, and you have really skipped some parts of her actions, I'd rather not know about it. Thank you

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Scetchiekat [2012-08-13 15:40:33 +0000 UTC]

I hate Dovewing too for some reason.. but i have no idea why xDDD

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Shakshun In reply to Scetchiekat [2012-08-13 15:56:10 +0000 UTC]

I hate her because she's so ignorant and mean to her sister :C and rubs her powers to Ivy's face!

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Scetchiekat In reply to Shakshun [2012-08-13 16:13:10 +0000 UTC]

Yes yes she does >:U

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Lizardtalon [2012-07-10 07:49:18 +0000 UTC]

This picture sucks.

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EagleSongtheKitty In reply to Lizardtalon [2012-08-05 02:03:41 +0000 UTC]

F U!!! How could you not like this??????!!!!!! What is wrong with you?? It's BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!

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Shakshun In reply to Lizardtalon [2012-07-10 13:17:35 +0000 UTC]

Agreed

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iiRiver-Of-Blood [2012-06-16 15:55:12 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this looks like the cover of a book!

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Shakshun In reply to iiRiver-Of-Blood [2012-06-16 15:57:32 +0000 UTC]

Ah its so old xD But thanks

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iiRiver-Of-Blood In reply to Shakshun [2012-06-16 15:58:01 +0000 UTC]

No prob! X3

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AleG8RRage [2012-04-16 00:14:06 +0000 UTC]

Hurray for Dovewing h8rs

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Shakshun In reply to AleG8RRage [2012-04-16 11:47:27 +0000 UTC]

Hooray~ *bro fist*

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Baymar-Farms [2012-03-05 01:26:35 +0000 UTC]

no offence, but y is dovewing green?

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