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No abdominal/thoractal organs other than a tongue? That... won't work, at least for any organism larger than perhaps 5 grams.
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Also I'd recommend reading the journals!! There is plenty of stuff there about how a species works. and it's honestly a good idea to read up on something before you point something out.
And That goes as a PSA to everyone!! Read the Journals!! They have a lot about the species, and really help with your understanding over things.
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(to both you and shiniha )
I ain't see any journal 'bout this species.
Anyway—a tongue serving as intestines is actually a really interesting idea. You'd still need lungs, though, in addition to other specialized organs like kidneys, a liver, etc., whether mounted inside the body wall or inside the tongue structure. A human-size organism simply cannot live without them... that is, if you're committed to hard sci-fi realism.
I just thought of something—it would be hygienic for them to lick the inside of their mouth/body cavity after eating, because otherwise bits of food may still remain there to rot and cause infection.
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Maybe you should like check out the group that's all about the species? We have a ton of journals there..
And well, they don't really require anything realted to digestion, of course lungs maybe should have been added, but when it comes to cleaning the inside of their body, it's kinda the point for them to be unable to do it?
They live by filling up the tongue you see, consuming food and stuff gets them energy, but they cannot get rid off the solid material, as such it's stored inside of them, while they are children it's used to slowly build up bones, and while they are older they become more and more stale and have a difficulty walking around.
And we aren't really hard about sci-fi realism, we just want to have some fun honestly, that's why it's semi open, it's not a perfect species after all.
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(Directed originally to AUBEARGINE in response to this , but they've apparently blocked me, so...)
Read in full, please:
My problem was not that it was fictional, or counterfactual, but that one element did not make sense. The only way an organism could store ~40 tons of food directly inside of it and not have massive effects is if the concept of mass does not apply at all in the universe, which... by indications in the lore documents, it does. That's a major contradiction that I attempted to point out.
I attempted to create explanations that would mend this contradiction with the least change to your lore possible—the most conservative one being a slip-space dimension that would contain the majority of their gut, keeping their effective volume and mass constant. I thought it would be beneficial for this to be added to avoid people having similar reactions as me, and to eliminate the contradiction.
I fully accept that I have been rude, though I can't pinpoint exactly where I was overtly so (actually, the shock upon "10 miles long" was almost overt). I have been occasionally considered smart-assy, and I can definitely see that in my responses here, though. I am terribly sorry for that.
As context to my actions, I've just seen so many original species that either violate physical laws or are quantitatively impossible, but exist in universes that respect those things. This contradiction is what irks me. And so, I found this species with an interesting trait, and since its contradiction was relatively minor, suggested possible corrections.
But if you don't want to follow my suggestions, whatever. I won't badger you any further. After I congratulate you for your species design, that is. A body cavity serving as a mouth and a tongue as intestines is a profoundly unique and interesting trait, as well as reproduction occurring through the splitting off of mouths. Even if problematic, it still ranks very highly among the species I've seen.
No one wants my criticism or help? I can think of 2 people off the top of my head that do enjoy my help and occasional criticism—one so much they'll credit me in their book forewords.
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I just checked out the biology journal.
Well, keep in mind I was referring to them cleaning the inside of their body cavity/mouth, not their tongue/intestines. It is geometrically impossible for a prehensile organ that long and sophisticated not to be able to clean the cavity it's in. Even if due to paralysis it was, any accumulation could be stopped with Paleolithic technology, if any at all.
Note: The following text is written with a hard sci-fi mindset, although much of it would still apply for most imaginable dimensions.
About cleaning the inside of their tongue... Humans consume ~1.5 kg of food every day. They mass on average something around 65 kg. This means that every ~43 days, a human consumes their entire body mass in food. It's kinda impossible for any "closed" organism of human size to exist for a time long enough to develop sapience. They must have an anus equivalent, or within the month they will be dead.
Oh wait, their tongue/intestines are 10 miles long!? I mean, that would certainly be long enough to store enough food for a lifetime... but that's not what matters. What matters is volume and mass. Assuming they live on average 70 years, that would mean that they would die massing ~38,325 kg, or almost half that of a blue whale. If that volume was handwaved away, they'd have a density 27 times that of osmium, the densest element in existence. This means they'd effectively burrow through any surface they're placed on. Really the only way that can work is if most of their tongue/intestines are stored in some form of slip-space... which would eliminate the problems with waste disposal altogether.
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dude.
It is INSANELY rude to just show up and start criticizing other peoples work when they didn't ask for it.
no one want's your criticism or "help"
My friends have been super polite to you about it, but I'm really not going to be.
It's a work of fiction.
that means it's not real, and it doesn't need to be. They can do whatever the fuck they want.
This is NOT your species. Don't tell them how to run it.
A bit of advice:
If no one has asked for your input, and your input is not beneficial, do not give it.
Your input was NOT asked for, and the only thing it did was upset and anger people.
You shouldn't think so highly of yourself to think that everyone needs or wants to hear what you have to say, otherwise I will GLADLY direct you to r/iamverysmart.
PLEASE learn how to socialize and be polite.
You are so unbelievably rude, and I honestly can't believe my friends were so nice to you for as long as they were.
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The journals can be found in the Group! they should say answer most of your questions are answered there
Also your idea wouldn't work, as stated in the journals, they prioritise efficient kills with as little blood as possible. Apologies!
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The tongue itself works as a oversized intestine, it stores all the food gathered and it's the mouth/teeth that turn the originally solid food into mush, I don't know if that's the issue but I hope I explained it, if that was the issue.
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