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Wizard: Since the beginning of man we fear that aliens would come to either enslave us or eleminate us.Boomstick: What they should have been affair of is being assimilated or exterminate.
Wizard: These are two of the deadliest aliens threats in all of fiction.Β The Daleks, the surge of Skarro.
Boomstick: or the Borg, the hive mind menace of the Delta Quadrant.
Wizard: I'm Wizard and this is boomstick and it is our job to analyze their weapon, armor and skills to find out who would win a death battle.
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to masterofhorr [2017-05-23 23:36:04 +0000 UTC]
DALEKS ARE SUPERIOR.
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masterofhorr In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2017-05-23 23:50:21 +0000 UTC]
It might be just me I guess.
From what I've seen, the Daleks have the superior speed, tech (which the Borg won't be able to assimilate to, because they have no method of assimilating tech FAR beyond their own, we've only seen them adapt to tech comparable to their own), aggression, CQC (in combat capabilities) and combat strategy. Not to mention superior hax and AP.
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to masterofhorr [2017-05-24 01:07:58 +0000 UTC]
hax and AP?
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masterofhorr In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2017-05-24 01:23:10 +0000 UTC]
Hax: Β Time Mines, and Daleks specialized in time travel, hyperspace ramming, psionic powers, etc
AP: Β Having a superweapon (among many others) that can destroy galaxies (debatable outlier, as it's a superweapon), ships that can annihilate WarTARDISes (an outdated TARDIS that isn't programmed for warcan survive a supernova) just by ramming into them, same mines being capable of destroying those same ships, having multiple methods of planet busting, going toe-to-toe with an alien race with defense weaponry capable of "assaulting solar systems" etc.
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to masterofhorr [2017-05-25 00:09:43 +0000 UTC]
Yeah that seem right.
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Kamenrider1 [2016-06-13 13:40:59 +0000 UTC]
hmmmm this is a hard one.
the daleks usually kill in one shot, its enough to send a time lord body in to regeneration even.
The borg have the adaptability thing, but that is dependent on them surviving several attacks of the weapons in question, which usually doesn't quite happen with the dalek weapons, unless they at one point assimilated a timelord I think the daleks have it in the short war.
unless the borg nano probes actually are able to assimilate what little organic substance is left in a dalek Β which isn't much, and their minds aren't very worth while either for that purpose frankly, then the borg could stand a chance and maybe turn daleks in to some sort of nanoprobe bombs or something.
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-13 20:18:20 +0000 UTC]
Excellent, thinking about about ways both sides can lose and win.
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-14 18:15:12 +0000 UTC]
well they both are pretty much the most op enemies of their universes so yeah.
and I didn't bother with the whole time travel issue cause at one point or another they could both do so.
but its like i said if the borg can't assimilate or adept to the dalek death stick then its going to be a short battle cause the then technically one dalek could wipe out billions of borg
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-14 20:32:45 +0000 UTC]
Plus there are multiple types of daleks, I do believe if they did they should have a ship of a dozen (or a hundred) daleks vs a cube of equal borg.
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-14 20:47:52 +0000 UTC]
the borg are in theory the weakest here.
because no matter how many of them there are unless they can either adapt or assimilate they are pretty screwed, because that's what their whole method of conquest is built around, while the daleks just exterminate everything non dalek.
hell the borg might not even want to assimilate a dalek even if they could due to the sheer nature of a dalek.
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-14 21:58:48 +0000 UTC]
True but they did manage to get through the enterprise shield and take out a good chunk of their chip so their not defenseless but I do think the dalek is okay.
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-14 23:00:40 +0000 UTC]
yeah but wasn't that after repeated encounters, if we go by the tng line which is part of the classic time lines before enterprise and the new movies.
cause remember they turned picard in to locutus for a time which meant they had vast knowledge of starfleet and federation protocols. also I can be wrong here but didn't data kind of help them with that after the borg queen gave him some bits of organic skin?
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-15 02:41:36 +0000 UTC]
I do agree the daleks would win but I do think borg could take a few out.
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-15 08:14:43 +0000 UTC]
oh that's possible but they'd need something powerful to blow that dome apart and then kill the dalek inside
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-15 13:58:08 +0000 UTC]
didnt the borg take ona dozen of the federation ship
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-15 16:18:50 +0000 UTC]
yeah, they did but federation tech isn't a one kill hit like dalek weapons
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-15 16:34:53 +0000 UTC]
True plus it was until wolf 359 they would have put it on stun without the torpedoes.
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-15 16:56:12 +0000 UTC]
yeah and prior to wolf 359 aka the time picard was locutus the federation had no pure war ships in their aresenal. they built the defiant class as a stop gap solution until they had bigger war ships.
but as I said the borg did so well at wolf 359 because of the fact they had picard as locutus for a while during that and they learned all they needed about federation ships, tactics etc
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-15 19:37:03 +0000 UTC]
Hmm good point
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-15 19:57:09 +0000 UTC]
another point to the argument is that the federation realized quite late that they needed to keep switching up the frequency of their phasers and torpedo's because of the adaptation of the borg cubes and the drones. I don't even think they realized that during wolf 359. wasn't that one done when picard was rescued and Q sent them back to the delta quadrant?
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-16 01:47:45 +0000 UTC]
Do Daleks guns have different frequency.
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-16 08:52:54 +0000 UTC]
no, but one of their blasts is enough to push time lords to regenerate and destroy their own kind and cybermen alike so I do think a borg would fare the same. and I don't think they can learn enough of it if the one hit dies instantly to adapt to it.
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-16 21:36:56 +0000 UTC]
maybe but i don't think just killing one would be enough to avoid assimilation other wise why did the federation every have a hard time fighting them?
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-17 08:22:35 +0000 UTC]
assimilation is only once they can get to you. and it can take a while.
what I'm wondering about is if you can kill them in one hit every time do they have the needed data to adapt to said attack
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-17 15:30:38 +0000 UTC]
I remember a fair few borg getting stunned or disabled due to fed hand weapons before they adapted to them which is why they started building phasers whit modulating frequencies in the first place. but i don't think they ever got killed
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-17 19:58:13 +0000 UTC]
but agree this would make a good episode if they did something like eggman vs doctor willy with mutliply enemies
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-17 20:06:31 +0000 UTC]
oh i agree cause its one that can go both ways depending on several things and its not as if one is gonna be holding back while the other isn't.
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-18 01:33:24 +0000 UTC]
agree but do you think it is a likely battle?
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Kamenrider1 In reply to shinymewtwovsjason [2016-06-18 08:13:56 +0000 UTC]
don't know to be honest
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shinymewtwovsjason In reply to Kamenrider1 [2016-06-18 13:40:31 +0000 UTC]
It can't happen unless both side have mutliples fighters and that is something I don't see them doing unless they have to.
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