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Mifangirl In reply to MartinWalker1997 [2020-07-13 01:33:32 +0000 UTC]

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Arjay-the-Lionheart In reply to NikitaTarsov [2019-03-26 01:27:08 +0000 UTC]

You'd be hard pressed to find an army on the planet that didn't do all of the things the Americans did in Germany.





Not to mention the Germans doing all of the same things earlier, aswell...

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NikitaTarsov In reply to Arjay-the-Lionheart [2019-03-27 13:59:13 +0000 UTC]

I focused more on the things America did after the weapons have spoken - what was okay, we arm, they arm, the things go ther way. It's hard to explain how many german soldiers hated the SS-troops on ther side. But this and ther russian versions, the polit officers, had the right to kill everyone below ther rank without discussions. That's religious-style war, and a whole army as hostage, also abused to held a whole country as hostage. In the same perspective i don't blame the actual american soldiers(well ... at last those who try to make ther job without escalating in warcrimes) for ther job. Todays german soldiers - as consequence of the SS/polite officer-experience of WW2 - are fully responsibel for ther doing even in war. If ther is an illegal order, they had to refuse it and can't get punished for this refusing. American soldier have to do whatever they was ordered to, or face a military court(with quite more heavy punishment as german justice even can choose from). Noone is responsible, but high ranks can oder all kind of warcrime.
So America today and even in the experience of the reasons and mechanics of WW2/Nazi-Germany supports the very same military structure that make all this possible. And it isent an excuse that it not get abused in a real huge size till now.

I hardy love the storys of soldiers correct, fair and moralic behavior on both sides of WW2 - it shows that we're all of one kind, and all tend to to the right, some even in the moments they have a gun of ther motherland on ther head. On Switzerland castle Iter there was american and german troops fighting together to free prisoners from the SS-troops holding the place. Bombers refused to drop bombs on civil targets, the Desert Fox refused the order to kill all Jews captured in combat and just send them home(his personal secretary burned halve of the letters Rommel wrote to Berlin in fear this would lead to his commanders execution). Millions of storys of good people forced to raise the arms agansit the other by decadent politicans and greedy economy-monarchs.

Today we saw this creatures once again grab all the power, kill all the rules of deescalation and regulation. But Germany now is just a satelite, a soldier of America, what is the 3th Reich of our times. Russia didn't forget over all desolation, and also China an India allready toke ther arms to be ready when - not if - the new axis of evil raises.

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BondageStorm In reply to NikitaTarsov [2017-09-22 12:00:22 +0000 UTC]

We all know the correct flag would be with the Hakenkreuz, but many feel uncomfortable with it, and prefer to use the Balkenkreuz (this is not a Templerkreuz) to symbolize the third reich. Not just feeeling uncomfortable with the symbol, but also its censored in some countries and most likely against ToS of DeviantArt.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to BondageStorm [2017-09-22 13:20:16 +0000 UTC]

Yepp, you´re right with the cross, lil' mistake of mine.

We use the Templerkreuz acually, the shown was the old air force sign. 

Okay, understandable. But don't worry, i saw it several times on DA and even on german accounts(what also isen't illegal for DA exist on american servers under american law, and there the sign isen't illegal to show) .. noone cares about the Hakenkreuz anymore .. or the devasting ideologys it transports :/ 
Also it wouldn't be a problem(in Germany) for using it in a explanating context that doesn't support facistic ideas. In this case it is a bit confusing with our law ... you can take hard drugs in public, if you just do it on a theater and in context with a program about drug abuse or public attention for abuse xD
(Well, it isen't legal to buy, own or transport it anyway.)

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Skoshi8 In reply to LordAtomosk [2017-09-21 00:22:30 +0000 UTC]

Especially as neither of them started the war in the first place.

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LordAtomosk In reply to Skoshi8 [2017-09-21 03:16:33 +0000 UTC]

The soldiers themselves, yes

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