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That's some hardcore dedication right there :} I usually befriend everyone on my first playthrough too, but it's too difficult to keep everyone satisfied all of the time, so I just sort of make it up to the disapproving characters later if there's trouble.
In the end I did bring Blackwall back to Skyhold, hoping I could end him myself, but I had to take him back into my party. I regretted not leaving him in prison then, but it just felt like I had unfinished business with him. The hurt in that judgement was real though, I really liked the heartfelt and angry dialogue. But yeah, he was the first companion that really pissed me off so much I felt it out of the game :') It's fantastic. And also the only character I considered kicking out of the party at my first playthrough.
As for Anders, I did kill him once, but that was like, a later playthrough too, and I can /never/ bring myself to kill Zevran XD
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Yea for me when ever I play a regular especially a bioware right I always care way to much for the companions. Like bioware writes really good characters and like you said the dialogue is good especially when their is angst in it.
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Ohhh... still I go back to this scene and the judgement one and feel the pain whenever I hear "Thom Rainier". Maker, have mercy
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Right? Oh man, I have so many feelings about his reveal, he was my first romance too so I saw none of it coming XD (Except that I was thoroughly annoyed by his insistence that he was a bad-man™)
(I did a comic on that too, que shameless self promotion: merenwen-luinwee.tumblr.com/po… )
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Indeed! I must admit, I heard some gossips, what may happen, but no one mentioned it's going to hit my feelings so hard. I was exactly like your tumblr comics says the whole time and then... and then he left! Daahhh... I even took him to the ball in the Winter Palace and the scene of their dance was so nice, especially if you keep in mind that he really don't like to be there. I wanted to forgive him... All I could do for him is to get out of the prison and let him become the man he claimed to be, but the romance was over. I needed a consolation so my second option was Cullen and it was sweet, passionate, honest and exactly what my Inquisitor needed.
I need to take my time and read all your comics tomorrow, they're awesome!
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Oh man, I didn't take him to the winter palace because I didn't know about dance scenes (MY ONE TRUE WEAKNESS) and it was a majorly missed chance XD I figured I should take the most dilplomatic chars back then (and boy did I get those wrong but what ever XD after that I made sure to bring my LI every time)
BUt yeah, like you, the romance was over after the reveal. I was so pissed XD like actually real world seething that he dared do that to me, and that just is some stellar writing right there. My only regret is that I got him out of jail after that, because I wanted to kill him, and I hoped my inquisitor could do that, or in the very least exile him. No luck there though. I was forced to take him back, but god, I did pick the most cutting remarks I could at that trial. I thought it was to late to start off another romance after that though, but I agree, I romanced Cullen later and he is my all time favorite romance so far. Gives me all the feelsies, and I have a thing for his god damn voice. (I'm romancing Solas right now and MAKER the pain is real on that one too)
So glad you enjoy my comics!! I hope they continue to make you happy ^^
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I took my dream team to Halamshiral ball so Blackwall, Solas and Vivienne (also because the Game is her thing xD), because if any fight should happen, I can count on them. But right, I didn't realise, before I read a guide, I should have taken Sera too! She'd be the last person, I would choose for such an official event! xD
So even if you give him to the Wardens he stays in your team? He was my best tank, so I didn't mind saving him. My real punishment for him was to lose the only woman who gave him a chance, loved him and made him to be a better person. Since, it didn't have much impact in the game itself, I guess, I was still the one more suffering xD damned writing, they made it too good!
If you take care on which dialogues options you choose, it's never too late 
You have a great style and it's such a fun to read them!
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hihihi, I got into it all through a classmate just before inquisition came out, so I started at origin and found it really difficult to get in to, but I tried again and then got hooked on the whole thing. I've played through that three times and the only one I still haven't romanced is Alistair XD (which is the most populair option, and is super likeable but for /some/ reason I always end up with him not liking me all that much XD ) but playing that will definitely help you understand some of the game better, and make you see a ton of fun references. Same with DA2, which I love despite it being short and pretty linear (it's easy to do everything in a certain order, so you're less likely to leave things unfinished) and the characters are absolute dorks <3.
Now inquisition plummeted me into nerddom hell, I only took a brief break from playing it last time, then jumped right back in :') but Yeah, I believe all the dialogue options at his judgement end up putting BW back in your party, even the warden one, cuz he only goes to them after the game ends. He is a good tank though, with his champion specialization. In this play through I send him off with the wardens after the events of into the abyss, that... was kind of heart breaking... Sera hates my guts XD but I've spent 5 playthroughs being a pretty good inquisitor, I needed one where I was not so very politically correct u.u
And you should definitely blow up the circle some time, just... maybe not on your first playthrough if you care about your companions XD but you now... try everything once 
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Hahha, my boyfriend first showed me Inquisition, but my computer was too weak so I played Origins and I loved this game, though I skilled my rogue as wrong as it's only possible, in DA2 it's the easiest to skill a char and in Inquisition it's a little bit sad, they removed completely the possibility to change the attributes. I tried not to romance Alistair, but he's such a cute idiot that's adorable xD Though now as he got mad with me for recruiting Loghain I could complete the romance with Zevran, such a fun he is! xD My first play though was as a rogue, so I didn't really need him, sadly. Now he was a gem in my team. I finally want to become a queen of Ferelden, so next I'll play as a noble warrior. I do agree with You about DA2 and for me the most annoying thing was how the reused locations far too often, but I understand they didn't have enough time for this game. I didn't want to play it first, but they mentioned Kirkwall far too many times in Inquisition and I had no idea what happened there xD Fenris hated me, I failed to make him like me every time I tried xD
Oh yes, Inquisition doomed me too, I ended up reading all codex entries outside of the games xD Ohh, I see, that's good to know. Though, when I play as a tank myself, I won't need him so much, so I can decide his fate differently. Oh noes, another heart breaking moment... Sera hates you? How is this possible? xD Hah! Indeed, I want to try being a bad Warden or Inquisitor, but I always fail T_T
I thought if I blow up the Circle, I won't be able to learn the healer specialization, but I learned it was incorrect. I wonder how much it'll affect the game
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Yeah they simplify matter a bit over the course, I don't really miss assigning attributes though, especially as you can craft armor and such as well. I also kind of liked that the DA2 character didn't need to switch their armors. Saved me so much bag space
Zevran was my first origins love <333 It hurts me not to romance him and I have never yet antagonized him XD I just can't deal, his voice is so smooth (I don't have a thing for voices, I don't know what you are talking about) I still want to do a queen of Fereldan run too though :} I started on one at some point, but she was also mean on top of it, so I abandoned that play through. I'll restart it at some point though u.u Not sure about the class yet.
I understand the annoyance about the map reusing. I dunno though, it never really bothered me, but I tend to roll with things like that if the story makes up for it. I barely noticed it in my first play through, but that's also because I have no sense of direction XD The Fenris hate is understandable though XD I romanced him as a mage on the first play through but he turned on me XD it was heartbreaking. I tried Isabela next and I couldn't get a full romance with her either XD Then I went for Anders, and he annoyed the hell out of me... but I was gonna get a full romance no matter the cost and I made it, but aaaaarg, I wanted to kick him all the time :')
As for Inquisition, yes, all of that. I haven't quite read all of the codex yet, but I do have world of Thedas and the Art of DA:I one comic and currently saving up for more of that fringe merchandise XD I also Cosplayed male Hawke incidently, but you may have picked that up on my tumblr
And yes, Sera hates me, not quite enough to leave yet, but hey... I'm a very elfy elf, a mage and I hate everybody equally, that includes the little people :') Also I've been purposely strict with her just to see what she'd do. I mean... I agree with her on a lot of things, like how the little people get hurt over noble fights and shit like that. But she also has a very black and white perspective of things and if you try to add a bit of gray to that he general reaction is "No, you're wrong, piss off". I love that about her, how flawed and brazen she is, but it also makes it interesting to push those buttons. Incidently I've also been pushing Cassandra's buttons, and she's super forgiving over it all. That's interesting to see.... Despite all her differences she now still calls my Inquisitor her friend.
If you've learned any spec at one point or another in the game it'll remember that in follow up playthroughs, so you're good ^^ Besides, they usually offer up some alternative methods to get the skill anyway. You should try playing bloodmage too at some point :} I never got the fuss until I became one :''')
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It's good they're always trying to improve the gameplay, trying to do something new. I must admit that at first, I didn't even notice that it's not possible to assign attributes. It was a brilliant idea to improve the character through crafting, the player is kind of forced to craft if you want to have a really powerful hero. I always loved crafting and in Inquisition I had a real fun with it :3
Hahha, I actually love Zevran's accent, what I cannot bear is his chin xD And in DA2 they didn't improve his look too much. I want to have this one perfect play through, where I save everybody or at least as many people as possible and of course this will be the one where I am the queen of Ferelden (two handed warrior, because I want to have Alistair and Zevran in the team xD). On the other hand, I would also like to have the worst play through, made up of all the worst choices and it'd be interesting to become the king then, but i'm not sure if i'm hard enough for this xDD In my first play though I accidentally executed Alistair.... ups. reload.
So it was my case in Origins that I didn't notice how much they used the same locations and corridors, in DA2 it got quite annoying when I paid more attention to it xD Oh noes.. You had more points of friendship or rivalry with Fenris? I sided with mages and was on rivalry conditions with him, but he came back to me for the final battle (luckily... I hated fighting with him in the Fade, two blows and my hero was gone). Oh yes, I went for Andres too, I really wanted to kill him, but well, another time. I liked him more in Awakening though and the scene of betrayal wasn't as dramatic as Blackwall's xD
Ohh I want to get WoT and Art of DA:I too! My weakness are art books from games, so these are the must-haves for me, but quite expensive they are D: I read also the Stolen Throne, the Calling and Asunder - they gave me a great insight into the lore and the world, still need to read the remaining two. Yes, I saw your Hawke! Looked awesome!
That's true about Sera. I played as a human, so I wanted to show her that I understand her and that not all nobles as so bad. We ended up having friendly roof times and baking cookies and it was always so funny and sweet to read her notes in books :3 Oh yes, Cassandra was a friend with my Inquisitor too, she was so dear, I hoped, she'd be the new Divine, but sadly my choices put Leliana on this place. But hey, Cass is so dear in Trespasser when she "needs to talk" with the Inquisitor ;D
Yes, I've noticed that in my second play though, that's a relief. Still I don't know how to get the Reaver spec. What do I miss? And yes? They actually notice that I specialise my mage in blood magic? I opened this spec, but didn't take any spells in blood magic yet, because I wasn't sure if it changes something or not xD
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(lol, these are slowly turning into nerddom books, this is beautiful)
The elven designs in DA2 are one of my favorite race changes they made (besides the horned Qunari *bites lip at arishok*) Because the straight noses and small frames really made them a separate race. It did, however, indeed do /zero/ favours to Zevran :''') poor man, they just never seem to get him right. Except in the concept art... I still haven't forgiven Bioware for that hella epic, over the top, crow outfit, and then not putting him in the actual game besides a mention at the wartable :') (but hey, I have the same qualms about DAT DREADLOCK SOLAS CONCEPT)
*coughs* anyways, yeah, you should definitely try to go full angel and full asshole in all games at least once. But I also agree that going full evil is super difficult XD I still can't bring myself to not save redcliffe every damn time. It just... feels like it's the least helpful thing you could ever do for yourself as well as the villagers. I did however gain Allistair's open hostility in that last playthrough, but all of that somehow magically disappears if you don't recruit Loghain, idk, Anora stabbed me in the back so I made Alistair king out of pure spite. It was special, and he talked to me like this whole journey had been so meaningful to him, and I was like "man... I made your life a living hell... " but hey... sometimes Bioware misses chances like that.
The repetitive corridors were indeed far more noticeable in DA2, it was special. also FENRIS CAME BACK EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE RIVALS AND SIDING WITH MAGES???? WTH XDDD wow, okay, i was sort of on neutral ground with him I think, more approval though, but I still /really/ want to rivalmance him so I'll definitely try this out XD I know a friend of mine romanced him and he came back to her despite the mages too, maybe it's random? I don't know man, I just know it was super heartbreaking :''''')
Also, Anders is way more fun in awakening. I wanted to romance him there, he's just 100% less spitefull or something? I agree in anycase. though IDK, I felt pretty damn betrayed by Anders, when he blew up the chantry I wanted to kill him, but I needed a bloody healer X'D in a later playthrough I just went "fuck it, and fuck you" though... and I managed u.u So I would put that on equal footing with Blackwall (And fucking Solas, holy shit)
Now I definitely want the comics, and I can definitely recommend the artbooks, lots of extra insight. And if you're interested in DnD I can also definitely recommend getting the tabletop RPG book (Actually I can share a link to the PDF with you if you want) it has a lot of insight in the history and such as well and.... it's simplified DnD.... I'm getting together with some fellow DA nerds around christmas to play the shit out of this thing
oh gosh yes, Cassandra's talk, ahw, poor sweetheart XD I still need to romance her XDDD Definitely try to put her on the sunburst throne sometime XD it's hilarious XD Leliana is so ruthless, I really dig her plans but her methods scare the crap out of me :'''') and well... Vivienne is just very conservative. still rather interesting.
as for the specializations... I'm not sure about the reaver spec myself.... But in most cases you can badger merchants for books. (I looked it up real quick, and...... ehm... you can get the book for it in awakening, but you can earn it in origins too through a pretty shitty dick move, but not sure if spoiler
but yeah, don't worry too much about companions noticing the bloodmagic.... it's a big missed chance, but your companions don't respond to it at all, neither do they in DA2 I think... It sucks, because they all cry it's a big taboo and here you are opening veins and being a general badass and no one bats a lash.... I liked inquisition much better in that respect. Got a couple of good freakouts from learning the ways of the necromancer
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(hahah, I don't mind at all ;D )
Oh yes, and indeed Elves are pretty in DA2, as they're supposed to be. I kind of hope that maybe somewhere in the future Zevran will appear in this crow outfit. They have to get him right finally... Such a great character D: (don't even mention Solas D: but at least we know, he'll appear at some point, so hopefully meantime he'll grow some hair).
Awhh... How can I upset my own companions, they all MUST like me and I must save everybody xDD In my first play through I accidentaly sacrificed Connor's mother and burnt Amarantine - it was so sad to tell the boy where's his mom or later to admit to the arl what really happened and Amaranthine, omg... they kept reminding me about it on every occasion, even in DA2 I had to kill some revenge-seeking conspirators to free my Warden from them xD In asshole playthough I'll have to be careful not to be careless too must, so still my vote would count during the Landsmeet for instance...
Wow! I never get Alistair to dislike me, unless I recruit Loghain - then everything is ruined, his whole hatered is unleashed and it hurts me when he sounds so cold and hateful towards my Warden, even he dared to be so carelessly surprised that my Warden was still alive. Surprisingly, in the DA Keep still it's possible in one World state to marry Alistair to Anora, recruit Loghain, romance Zevran or Leliana and remain Alistair's mistress. In the game Alistair was pretty clear there was "no us" anymore.
Hahhaha, I earnt his respect it seems xD Noo, I read somewhere on the internet that if you have have less than 50% of rivarly or equal 100% of rivarly, he'll rejoin you. I was close to this 50% and I was afraid that giving him the last gift, the rivarly will jump in between 50 and 100% and then he'd not come back to me xD
I do see your point! That's why I don't know what should I play in the next play though... I know, I want to side with templars this time, but should I be a tank, so I don't have to drag Aveline around (her face annoyed me so much xd) or a mage to be the healer when I kill Anders, choicess..... hmmm... (Solas leaving Inquisitor literally to die broke my heart. I promised him, I'll prove him his way is wrong and there is another way. What do you mean you're sorry?? Your "sorry" will not give my Inquisitor her hand back, Solas! D: )
Christmas are coming luckily, so I guess, I know what I'll get from Santa xD I've always wanted to play DnD! I'm bet, you'll have a lot of fun! Sadly, most of my friends have never been the gaming type. I'd be thankful for the link to PDF, it'd be nice to read the book anyways
That's interesting that you mention Viv, in my game play she's never been the canditate, simply it was not possible. The only choice I was given was between Cass and Leliana and still I have no idea what I did wrong.
Oh? So I'll keep my eyes open for the book then, but please, spoiler me the dick move in Origins
I hear you there, faster they notice Merrill or Anders than the champion. Yes! I went for the way of the assassin in Inquisition and got some nice comments too
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*snickers* oh man, you crack me up, yes, I hope Solas will grow some hair too XD not likely though, gotto keep him familiar now :}
Also, in my first playthrough I sacrificed Connor's mom too XD They just kept insisting it would take too long to go to the circle and get someone, so I just.... went... "fuck it, then she dies, Alistair doesn't like her anyways" and he was so angry afterwards XDDD oh Dragon Age... I'm not sure what happened in my first Awakening playthrough though... I think I saved Amaranthine but my own fortress fell :') woops... I still haven't figured out how to save both, but... to be honest, I don't really play awakening all that much. I like the characters, but usually by the time I get to awakening I just wanna hurry up and skip to DA2 :')
No but... really... I hear Alistair is really hard to antagonise, but here I am... three or four playthroughs in, and I only unlocked his friendship quest once, probably because I gave him the proper feastday gift. (given, I accidently gave him the -50 gift once too and I hadn't saved for a while so..... oops...) Next time I'll romance him and see why everyone is so in kittens about him
Definitely rivalmancing de hell out of Fenris now
Avaline is cool though XD, awkward as balls, but she's so rightious and badass, I didn't mind taking her along. But idk, Fenris can do a mean bit of tanking too, as does Carver, just give m a couple of taunt talents and they'll do fine. I mostly say that though because I know /I/ make a shit tank, so I hardly ever play warrior :') I do wanna do a few warrior playthroughs though just so I can hear more rogue to rogue and mage to mage banther. I usually play mage, so then I drag one of each with me, as a rogue same deal... just because you need that tank.... and usually my LI needs to come along and depending on their class... yeah... ah well~ (For instance, I'm now romancing Solas with a mage, so I already have two mages, I need a warrior, and I need to open doors because I must loot everything, so... u.u (though two handed warriors can sma0h open the easy locks in DA:I too, it's hilarious XD )
You have to build a friendship with Viv I think, she'll ask you about your thoughts on the divine. Depending on what choices you make you can suggest her to become such. I liked her character, but I hardly ever take her along, I guess I just get to absorbed in the love interests :') In the first two playthroughs I did I actually take the trouble to befriend her though, and I made her divine on the second go I think :3 (first was Lelliana)
okay, so the dickmove in origins. You have to poison Andraste's ashes. If you value Leliana, don't bring her along XD but yeah, afterwards Kolgrim will teach you.
also I'll send you a link by note :}
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Hahha, oops. Hmm, perhaps you're right, but they changed Flemeth after all. I thought, it was because I killed her in Origins, but I'm sure, if I let her live, the result would be the same.
Right? It's their fault! They insist like this in many cases and then leave you with nothing but regret. Hahaha, Alistair is quite bi-polar also first complaining "Uh oh, now I get a beautiful fiancee, who will always remind me about Loghain" but then what? They fall in love with each other. Then, why wouldn't he marry my mage? Because she's not a noble.. Firstly, king can do everything he wants, secondly, what do we learn in DA2? That the Amells are actually noble, but then it's too late :C I bet, they don't even mention Warden's nobility and that maybe she could marry Alistair then, still she'd be a mage, but hey, maybe it'd be the first step to solve this war between mages and templars xD
It's sad, there's no romance options in Awakening, or at least if you romanced someone in Origins and declared that they'll stay by you, they should appear with your hero in Awakening. But well, I wanted to skip it too, to be honest, but I kind of wanted to remind what was going on there.
Yeah, I thought it's almost impossible to antagonise him. It may be actually a fun to see him this way, but I cannot be in romance with him, I'd feel too sorry for my Warden. Do it girl, and rule them all!
I will definitely befriend Fenris the next time. I didn't like his bad attitude and hate to everything. When he started to hate me as well, it was unbearable to talk to him sometimes xD
Aveline was quite useful when the authority of Captain of the Guard was recognised and that was nice. I got Bethany in my first play though, now I want Carver. Is it random who dies? I never played as a warrior too xD Ehh, but I want to understand how this class actually works, because when everybody dies and I end up fighting as a warrior, I do a really poor job xD I always need to have a rogue, they deal so much damage and yet so quickly! In DA2 I sometimes ended up running around with 3 rogues, because it was a fun to have Isabela and Varric in the team.
Ohh, she was my friend, so I must have missed this dialogue and say something else. It'll be interesting to try out, anyways :3 I liked her too, but kind of for the whole time I felt like she'd betray me, because she'd be a strong enemy.
Awh. I wanted to poison the ashes.... But then I wasn't sure if I get the poisoned ashes to the arl or I take a handful first and then I poison xD
Thanks :33
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I think with both Flemeth and the Qunari, they just changed to a different game-engine/got better at modelling, so they figured horns were bad ass. Especially since Flemeth looks sort of normal and unimposing. That new design /rocks/ but *sighs* imagine the old homeless looking woman showing up to save the champion of kirkwall from a bunch of darkspawn XD tbh I think that would awesome on a whole other level.
I think Alistair indeed doesn't marry the mage because of the mage thing :''') It's a bleeding shame though, come on Alistair, screw the masses! who else are you gonna marry if not your warden lover, ey?
But shhhhhh, you're tempting me to play origins again XD I don't have time for this XD *laughing forever* I definitely am gonna try though :}
As I understand it with the Hawke twins is that they die to balance out the player Hawke. So if you're a rogue or a warrior Bethany lives, and if you're a mage.... you get stuck with Carver :'''') It makes for interesting playthroughs though.
I think the biggest problem I have with stamina classes is that they need to stick close to the target XD I'm not used to running after my enemies, so when my mage warden/champion/inquisitor finally dies and I need to switch to a warrior/rogue class I usually spend most of my time running after my targets XD But you're right, practise is good, and it does make for interesting game play.
Also... the 3 rogue party.... Reminds me of the last time I tried to play DA2.... I played it on hard, and then I went to the deeproads, I was a rogue and I didn't want to lose Beth to the circle, so I took her with me. Then I had to also take Anders, because.... things... also he was my LI so there's that. EXCEPT that's 2 mages and 2 rogues because Varric needs to come along too! XDDD I died so hard XD I had to switch back to regular. I tried though... I tried.... But that dragon... gawd...
I feel ya on Viv though, she's very ruthless so I was indeed constant fearing betrayal from her as well. But yeah, talk for both leliana and Cas, and then see if you can bring up the topic with her. I'm not clear on the specifics, but as long as you haven't done any wartable quests yet to put your vote in for Cas, you can chose to put your vote in for Viv 
And about them ashes, at the end of the day none of the options can swamp your game, I mean... there has to be process. The worst any choice you make can do is turn an ally against you (turn against the circle, just see what happens :''') ) but if you've made peace with that, it's interesting to see who's buttons you can push at which points
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Good point! It'd be quite hilarious to see original Flemeth later on. Maybe it was just a way to hide her real personality at first and later there was no need for it anymore xD Horns are awesome, I need to fully play qunari once!
Indeed, Alistair sometimes pisses me off so much xD Hahha, ooops. But there's soooo many possibilities to play Origins! I'm not gonna play DA2 more than 2 times, but Origins and Inquisition I could play over and over again :33
Oh, that's good to know, then I'll definitely play the mage next time, because I want to see more of Carver. Uuuu... I'll be a blood mage and side with templars xDD I'll kill all other blood mages and become the most powerful one! Mwahahhaha.... hyhy and I'll rule them all! ;D
Ha! I never run after the enemies playing a rogue, I wait for them to come to me. Playing a mage I realised how handy it is to make "spell traps", e.g. I put my team on hold, take a rogue to go forward and provoke enemies to start chasing me back to the team and on the way between me and the enemies a mage casts inferno, so when they finally get to me they're already in a poor state. I need to try it out on the nightmare mode as hard wasn't so hard after all
Wow, 2 rogues and 2 mages? That must have been quite a challenge then if you had to change it back to regular xD I'd never go for such a long quest like this, but I understand your choice, because Anders is quite useful if you take Beth along. I let her join the Circle, because I didn't want to end up playing like this xD
I'll give Viv a try for sure! Also I was kind of afraid of Sera's betrayal as she was the only character I could always send away so I was pretty sure that something will happen, but then nothing. Maybe here I missed something too? And then Bull betrayed me. He got quite cold after I sacrificed his buddies, but I didn't expect this!
One more honest and noble play through and then I definitely try something new, getting evil at some points. I'll play as a male, because I cannot be an evil woman xDD
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Origins definitely feels like the most versatile game out there. I still want to do a playthrough where I get the werewolves on my side for instance. It's interesting. Though I can play DA2 a lot too, because I just love those characters soooo much, they're all such dorks! I mean, I still want a playthrough where I romance both Fenris and Anders just to hear them bitch an moan about it in the banther XD With Origins and Inquisition the cast feels a lot more balanced and sort of realistic? the DA2 cast is all caricatures, but that's what makes them so interesting too. It's definitely the game that makes me laugh the hardest. Especially with purple!hawke in the mix XD
Go get them templars with your bloodmagic, hahaha, I still want to do a bloodmage playthrough too :') but I always play mage XD Maybe some other time.
But look at you! employing all fancy tactics and stuff. It's true though, with DA:I it's easier to use tactics like this, but because it's open world it's also not that hard to just overlevel a bit before you go to the next map. It makes playing modes such as hard and nightmare a bit underwhelming. I mean, I'm playing on nightmare now, and mostly it mean enemies are a little slower to go down *shrugs* I can really recommend playing with trials some times. There's one that puts all enemies (excl. critters) on the same level with you, I imagine that makes things a bit more annoying. Plus you get extra items for it *thumbs up*
I still need to try a couple of the /really/ annoying trials XD like "fair weather friends" and reaching Halamshiral with all party members and reaching Skyhold before you reach level 5 with the half XP trial on XD But I'm saving that for a play through where I don't really care about romancing anyone I think, because... they sound like sure ways to lose friends and get killed XD (Imagine fighting those templars at haven before you ever reach level 5 :') )
I didn't take Beth along the second time I played DA2, because I knew Carver got carted off to the wardens only because I brought Anders with me and I didn't want that to happen to her, and then she got sent to the circle and I was so shocked XD but yeah... with DA:I the difficulty modes don't do much difference, but with DA2 I was feeling it :') Badly :') I admit I generally don't have enough patience with DA
Just got back from my talk with Viv and I'm definitely not buddies with her now. The talk should trigger after the whole well of sorrows thing. You should go for it ^^
I never really feared Sera's betrayal, but I did find it weird that she could be sent away at all times, like... at some point she proves she's trust worthy people, come on. and Bull, OMG! You sacrificed Krem? You monster! (I kid
*laughs* have fun in any case
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Ohh me too! Although next time, I lift the curse again, though. But too bad, I have to kill Zathrian :\ It was nice when he appeared for the final battle. What I didn't like about the final battle is that I couldn't change the support units unless they all died... Hah, yeah, DA2 was good for their characters, but when I had to kill the whole Merrill's clan on the way back I was standing in that empty camp and there was no reaction from her. The same when I had to deal with Anders, basically nobody made me feel sorry for letting him alive xD In my next playthough I was to try romancing everybody, may be interesting xD Ohh when I was in a team with Varric or Isabela it was a lot of fun, but usually I was rudding around with Aveline, Fenris and Anders, they don't really maybe the fun team. In Origins I laughed my ass off every time when Shale was talking to Zevran and calling him "painted elf" or Zevran trying to talk to Alistair about love pleasures, because Antivan knows best xDDD
I wonder what will be Cullen's or Meredith's reaction when they realise that this mighty Champion of Kirwall is not only a mage but a blood mage xD
Hah, I used this tactics in Origins, because it was pretty easy to guess which way the enemy will come. Yes, as you say, pretty easy to level up before facing an enemy in Inquisition. I did meantime some DLCs, so my final battle went soooo quick. Trespasser was much harder, because the enemies leveled up with me. I definitely will try out these trials one day, they sound quite challenging. Get to Skyhold before level 5?? Wow, that must be crazy but somehow possible perhaps xD I don't know, I'd have to be a golem to survive these templars in Haven...
Ohh, so Carver goes to the Wardens as well? Then, if I don't take him to the Deep Roads, he perhaps ends up with the templars. DA2 was crazy with all these difficulty modes. At first I wanted to do everything on nightmare, but then the prologue happened! Gosh, never-ending waves of darkspawns.. I gave up.
Oh noes xD I don't know, if I'd like to see Viv as the Divine anyways. She doesn't seem to fit there to me.
Yes! Exactly my thought. Especially when she wanted me to join Red Jenny after all this and she's always been a useful ally. Indeed... I sacrificed Krem D: Never again, though. To the end of the game I didn't hear from the Bull more than the one sentence about the allience. If you sacrifice his buddies, remember to strip him off all the good weapon and armour before Trespasser xD
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Thank god for fanfiction and fan artists, because yes, they do lack some serious responses here and there.
I hated killing Merrill's camp too, like... noooo, why did they have to die T^T
ololol romance everyone XD
In my last play through I flirted with Isabela once and then she looked me up and the mansion XD I eh... just went with it, cuz fuck it. Everyone is pretty forgiving as long as it's her XD I'd be curious to see what Merrill thinks about a cheating hawke though. I hear she can be pretty heartbreaking if you're weak to puppy eyes
Personally I loved the banter between Isabela and Varric, and Isabela and Bethany, and Isabela and.... anybody really, I guess XDD Varric and Fenris crack me up too. Merrill is just allround cute, I hardly ever take her along though... I should change that.
Zevran's banter is pure gold too XD I like Alistair and Morrigan too, there's just some lovely hate-shipping there. Sten also tends to be surprisingly amusing :} Loved that bit in Haven where he just stops the party and challenges you if you're not buddy buddy enough XD
When I didn't have the DLC's yet the end battle was indeed much harder, even though I cleared all areas, but you can squeeze in some extra levels with the Avvar and the dwarfs u.u There's no problem anymore at all. I'm nearly at that point in my current playthrough. I still wanna clear a few things up with Solas still there though. He is my babe after all, even if he /crushed/ my heart :')
Both siblings will die or go to the wardens in DA2, and indeed, either templars or circle if you leave them behind. Hawke is just bound to be alone :') and lol, yeah... darkspawn for days. The prologue is hell.
*snickers* oh man, so long and thanks for all the gear XD Blackwall does that too. I think any of them really, if they leave... but then again... I can miss it u.u If I drive them to leaving me they probably don't carry the good gear anyways
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Hah, I already consider downloading some mods for Origins xD They seem to hit right into your feelings. Have you played with any mods?
I already got surprised that even if my Warden was in the relationship with Alistair, she could still sleep with Zevran and Leliana, thought I already told her "no" at the very beginning xD
Also if you notice, Isabela visits every other companion as well, but it's never really brought up what she was doing there
Next time I'll have to bring along Isabela or Varric, so it'll be way more fun!
Hahha, yeah, I laughed so hard about Sten on the end, when the Warden asks if he ever smiles and he says with such a serious voice, that he's smiling xDD
Not only extra levels you get in DLCs, but yet, so nice weapons and armours. Even though... As a rogue I kept running in my beautiful upgraded Prowler Coat rather than some mail armour, here the design won xD Oh, I do wonder what the last scene with Solas looks like when the Inquisitor is in romance with him...
Well, at least there's a chance to save the siblings.. What that mage did to their mother was a true horror for me. Call me weak, but I did not think, it'd be so drastic xD And when you romance Anders the scene in the mansion is soooo unrealistic I wanted to slap him..
When I saved Loghain, and did the very last conversation with Alistair, he took all the best gear with him. Next time I stripped him off just before the conversation and then I had to listen to him getting angry and being in his underpants only! Hilarious! xDD Never underestimate Sera 
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I haven't played with any mods no, though I just happen to have been looking at a couple of inquisition mods this morning and I'm considering it XD.
While playing the Sims I downloaded a lot of mods, and while they're all good fun, a few of them were also game breakers, so I guess I'm always a bit cautious with them. Besides, where do you stop right? Some of those mods look crazy realistic, and I often find they look weird next to all the regular in game stuff, so then you need to mod it all, and... pff... effort. I didn't know there were Origins mods actually, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I might take a peek at them later, just to see what they do :} I'm at least curious how they play into your feelings XD
Ooh, I'm very curious about stopping Merrill from finishing the mirror. I've been trying that too, but I guess I haven't quite been heartless enough, or perhaps not friendly enough to convince her to stop. So that quest is certainly still on my list as well. at least the whole cheating drama remains open in origins indeed XD All the romance options stop existing in inquisition once you enter an exclusive relationship u.u but I've never truly played the poly yet, so who knows~
Sten is always smiling.... on the inside :')
Oh very true on the nice weapons and armors. I haven't gotten the item DLC's because I don't want to pay for just gear, but I do very much like some of the additions from Descent and Hakkon. I just don't like the staffs XD There's no truly nice looking staff if you want a good one XD I really love the look of the Magister Lighting Staff, and I sort of have a soft spot for the Staff of the Void, but other than that.... I mean, I guess I'm practical, so I usually settle for the uglier options if they're better (this is why I play with hats off XD ) but sometimes... Sometimes the Orlesian mage hat on Solas just invokes such a sense of "nope" in me that I must indeed go with the more suitable options XD
But, yes! I really want to see the last scene with a romanced Solas now. I am going to have so many feels.
The scene with Hawke's mom broke me. Especially once they mention those white lillies and you can't do anything to stop it. And yes... Anders... Man, but my general reaction is to want to slap him, my god. He can be so insensitive some times. But that's good. I like that Bioware isn't afraid to create a character that some people will love to hate. Blackwall, Solas and Sera fall under that category as well. It's good writing if you can invoke some real world feelings in people. The only thing I miss is a female romance option in Inquisition that turns around and betrays you in the most horrible way :') I mean... Sera can piss me off because she can be pretty insensitive and short sighted, but over all, if you roll with her she's cool. Give me some treacherous women, dangit
omg XDD angry underpants alistair :') that's terrible and beautiful. I hear Alistair shows up in the Hanged man if you recruit Loghain, so I still need to redo that, because I totally missed him there. I'm pretty sure he at least refound some clothes by then though
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Same to me! I hadn't considered playing with mods till I saw some of them like adding more drama to the Warden or Alistair killing the archdemon. But first, I'd like to see it without the mods anyways xD
Yeah, I played Don't Starve with some mods and I ended up having too many of them and then something broke.. Imagine the struggle to find the defective one D:
I've not installed them yet, but if they do the funeral scene right, I'll fight so hard not to cry o_o
Indeed! At the very beginning I wanted to be strong and tell her "Na-ah, no.", but then she was begging me so much and she was ready to sacrifice everything and it was so important to her,that finally I let her finish it. I have to be harder the next time xD I was quite surprised, that in Inquisition it's quite impossible to break up, in Origins it was only the matter of clicking one dialogue option at any time and done. In Inquisition you're quite stuck with one person, unless certain event happen, like with Blackwall.
From the staffs I liked the one with lyrium, it looked pretty awesome to me, but I'd have to play a mage to explore it fully. I hardly crafted any staff myself. In general, I'm more practical too and bless for the hats-off option. Hah, in my case Solas wore the Orlesian mage hat, but I laughed soooo hard, it totally didn't fit him, but I had also a trouble in finding something better for most of the time @_@
Be strong girl on that last scene with Solas!
In DA2 there was a lot of moments, when it was already too late to do something. And even if you could prevent something, there was no way to control it, sadly. I'm sure he blew up the Chantry, because he had no cat around xD That's right! They did a good job in writing.. The characters are so real that I regret they don't really exist and it's just a pure pleasure to read the books by the same author
Hahha, perhaps Alistair finds some clothes by then! There're three options if you recruit Loghain: Alistair may rule with Anora, he may be executed or he'll leave your party and become a drunk. Anyways, you lose him from your party then
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What? there are mods that add scenes?? I did not know this 8(
or well, I suppose I always picked the morrigan baby up untill now, so tbh I don't know if there was a funeral scene to begin with... is there one?
really? I remember that you just lose the ability to romance other options, but there's also always options that say "let's end this" when you go and get some quality time with your LI? If they even give you the option for such **glares at Solas**
but I've never really tried those options *sighs* I get too attached.
Totally dumped Blackwall after that whole mess though XD I kind of regret it, but I also kind of Don't. XD
The orlesian mage hat cracks me up XD I also had blackwall wear it for a while, it was beautiful XD
Putting the scout cap of Cole also is this horrible thing of beauty XD
thanks for your well wishes XD I'm gonna see if I have time to play tonight *firm nod*
Give Anders a cat 2016, calm that boy down XD but sounds good. I'm definitely going to check out the books and comics :') Never enough dragon age here I fear.
And yyyyeeeeeah, Orlais will indeed supply. And yeah, Morrigan is also a treacherous lady, that's true. Isabela too. Too be honest I was quite shocked when she ran off XD She came back though. In my first playthrough I somehow completely missed her so I never recruited her???? It was weird. besides those two that it's all kittens and cookies though. at least... With the ladies.
I definitely don't trust morrigan though, like... I liked her okay-ish in Origins, but she was soooo arrogant in inquisition. That whole business with the well, man, I always rub it in that she got the whole thing backwards.
Alistair tries XD I dig that the options for kicking him out are there, but that last kick of recruiting Loghain.... I can't help but feel sorry for him :') And also always find it a little hard to justify to myself, like... Hey this guy tried to murder us multiple times... let's recruit him!
Still... talking to Loghain afterwards was... interesting enough u.u
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Sorry for the delay, Christmas is soon, so I had to take care of some presents and other matters D:
I always chose Morrigan as well. I didn't want to see any of my Wardens to die :c But if they die, I want to see them honoured in a proper way. I don't know if there's a funeral scene or not as well and google doesn't really help and on youtube I no longer know what's a mod and what is not xD
Hmm, I don't know now, maybe I just didn't pay attention to them xD But when I was romancing Blackwall, I didn't have any dialogue option to "end this" till the judgement. The same with Cullen: for the whole time I could ask him about the news, opinion about the others and also to spend some time on the battlements, but no option to break up, hmmm. Maybe they got too attached to my Inquisitor and it would ruin them?
Blackwall wearing the hat??? Isn't it restricted to mages only? xDD I didn't even try! Hah! Yeahh, Cole looks the best in his own hat, but why would anyone keep such a weak thing xD
*firm nod* I'm playing Gwent now, because it's quick. Maybe next weekend I'll go on with DA D;
Hahhaha it's gorgeous when you click "use" on the cat and your Warden's animation is like they would unleash some kind of mysterious super power and then you hear "meooow" xDD Dragon Age? Never enough! Kind of I'd like to live in this universe
You missed Isabela? I wonder how you did it xD Oh yes, I thought she'd not come back with the book and I even wanted to give her to Arishok xD
I wonder what's Morrigan really up to and as Solas "killed" Flemeth is my Inquisitor still connected to Mythal? Is she dead or alive or bounded with Solas? The ending was a little bit unclear to me ^^"
When I talked to Loghain afterwards he was always sooo suspicious that I want to kill him on every step xD No no no... I want him to die in Inquisition... But it'd be interesting to keep him alive also - I wonder how this would evolve
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I guess there's only one way to find out about the funeral scene then
Hmmm now I'm no longer sure about the break-up options either XD I think it's there... maybe it disappears after one of the last main missions? I can't really check now either because Solas :')
I believe it's when you pick the "can we talk" option, and then you can either pick "kiss him" or "this isn't going to work" or some variation there off.
The hats aren't restricted to class except for the qunari vitaar
I don't know gwent, what's that? I googled it and looked it up to steam and I find the witcher, is it related to that? :}
Thedas is a treasure XD the cat is indeed gold. All the feastday gifts in origins have this little extra thing they do, which is cute. If you activate them anywhere on the road they give little buffs. They also give that +50 or -50 on the relationship scale though, so I always kind of feel like I'm cheating when I use them
I wonder how I missed Isabela as well. She gets a cutscene and everything, but there we are. I only realized I was missing a companion when I started finding upgrades for her armor at the vendors. She's one of my favs now too XD but it was interesting, in hind sight, to see how the story plays out if the whole book thing doesn't play into it. It's still a pretty solid story, and I like that.
I'm very curious about the whole Mythal thing as well. My theory is that she can survive if she took the old-god soul from Morrigan's child, but if Morrigan did not have a child then how, right? I wonder if she takes over whomever has the knowledge of the well of sorrows, but there's also the whole "a soul is not trust upon the unwilling" thing so... We'll have to wait and see.
It's tragic either way because the Elven legends all sort of seem to hint that Fen'harel and Mythal weren't enemies, the way they interact in that epilogue indicates that as well. I doubt Solas can become both Fen'Harel and Mythal though, but maybe he does use whatever he took from her to compel all those elves to come to his side. Either way, can't wait for DA4
hehe, Loghain is an interesting character to be sure. Only after you recruit him you start to appreciate that there's a good side to him as well. In inquisition too he's a voice of reason, like Alistair or Stroud would be too. It suits him, I like it. But redeemed villains are a trope I enjoy in general. Again, very curious about how we're gonna deal with Solas in the next game, aaah!
There's already some hints from one of the writers on twitter too. I'm really crossing my fingers for some definitive news at next year's E3
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That's true DD: I'll hate to see my Warden dying... Though now I go on with Awakening and damn, this thing is long xD I swear, before I started it, I thought, a lot of scenes and situations that happen there were actually in Origins!
Hmmmm, I don't know. I don't remember anything like this neither with Cullen nor with Blackwall. I bet, it's done on purpose to make the relationships more real so if you choose to commit to one relationship you cannot break up just like this. But even in the reality different things happen xD
Hahahaha oh noes, next time I'll definitelly try the Orlesian hat on Blackwall xD And Cole, he likes hats after all, though I'm not sure if he'd be so happyof this one xDD
Yes, Gwent is a mini card game from the Witcher 3 and now the developers work on Gwent as separated game, because the Witcher players loved it so much and they actually begged for it over and over
By the way of treasures. How annoying it was in DA2 when you see a pile of treasure to collect and when you check it out, there are only another pieces of literal junk xDD In DAO you'd find at least some gems to sell for a nice price. But yeah, feastday gifts are really nice, don't think of it as cheating, but improving your gameplay
That would be quite interesting to see indeed, to go though the whole game without all of the companions, but leaving them behind I'd always feel like they wouldn't manage on their own without me xD Was Isabela even mentioned in epilogue if you didn't recruit her?
When I played Morrigan didn't have the child in Inquisition and my Inquisitor took the power of the well. To me it looked like Fen'harel absorbs Mythal and as the Inquisitor was bounded to her, now she's somehow bounded to Fen'harel. Otherwise it'd be Morrigan. Then this "bound" would be the only known piece of Mythal surviving. I cannot wait to see how this evolves as well. To me it's hard to judge the Elven legends, because a couple of times they proved wrong and Solas is the only living source of answers, but how reliable is he? We may never know..
I've just met Loghain in Awakening and he's really committed to the Wardens now, too bad I cannot take him back to my team. He is now ordered to travel to Orleis. Once I'll keep him alive, once I'll sacrifice him. He's been a hero for many Fereldens, no matter what wrong he did, because he's a kind of symbol to them. What's more he's the only person who knows, who Alistair's real mother is.
Oh yes, as far as I know, the next game will be in the Tevinter Imperium. Cannot wait to see it so much! It's a totally different world and perhaps we will meet Dorian again. I always get so excited when the characters come back
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Yeah, Awakening is a dedication man XD It might be almost as long as DA2? either way it takes a good long while to get through.
Cole would love the orlesian hat XD "oh! this has flowers on it, bees like flowers, and Sera likes bees, maybe she'll like me if I wear this" or something cutesy like that
oooh, that sounds fun :} I'm still new to the witcher, I played about an hour of it I think, but I keep falling back on DA, I 'm hopeless :')
I do like it though.
I'm afraid I'm not really bothered by weird ass treasure though XD I am one of those people that can't leave a thing behind, so I always loot anything and everything I can find and make lots of return trips so I can sell it all and check out if there's any good gear in there XD so uh.. yeah... I don't really look at what I loot. I only started paying attention to the torn trousers after someone pointed them out to me XD Then I gave my Hawkes a good long look like... "Really? I know you're refugees but raise the bar off the ground please" :')
I started paying attention to the Inquisitor's loot as well then, and... well... there's glass made objects in there, like, how do you make sure that doesn't break? XD
I don't think they mentioned Isabela in the epilogue after not recruiting her no... But... To be honest I think the companion's lives would be a lot simpler without Hawke to drag them into trouble XD I just end up recruiting everyone because I'm afraid I miss something, but really... Right now I'm kind of wondering in Inquisition, because I never really use Vivienne, Dorian or Sera... (My standard party is Solas and the Iron Bull and either Cassandra, Varric or Cole) (I still befriended Dorian though so I guess there's that)
Oho, the well drinker getting linked to Fen'Harel? that's very interesting, though I suppose with him hating slavery he wouldn't really abuse the connection... hopefully.... Of course he's a major hypocrite already so I wouldn't be surprised. You're right though, Elven legend is hard to figure out. The bits you can uncover in the temple of mythal are interesting though :} if you look up the codex of the ancient elven writing after you drank from the well you can read a translation :}
Loghain is indeed an interesting character :} I'm glad because he's a shining example that no one is truly evil or truly good, there's always reasons why someone makes the choices they did. Solas points it out as well when he describes the dreams he had at Ostagar.
Aaah, yes, I hope they bring back some old flames too! I want a Zevran cameo~~ And I'm curious about Sten, because there's whispers he became the new Arishok.
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Hah, indeed, Awakening would be as long as DA2, but I kind of miss this part where Anders and Justice merge. In Awakening there was nothing mentioned that they would or even any special connection wasn't revealed. It just happened or is there a way to prevent it?
Ohh that would be perfect! I'm sure Sera would have a loooot of fun seeing Cole in the orlesian hat xDDD Yes, I lack more interaction with him too, though reading Asunder you get a pretty nice view on his story and characters he keeps mentioning. After the decision to make him more spirit or human and choosing human, it'd be interesting to see the romance option with him. Or I don't know, maybe it'd totally destroy him? xDDD
I fall back to DA as well... There's sooo many games that I've not finished yet because of DA xDD The Witcher I just want to finish and it's pretty nice, because you start when he lost his memory so literally he knows as much as I do not having read the books...
Hahahha, I'm this kind of person as well, to loot everything and sell, so I don't have problem with money xD But I prefer to collect some gear, because obviously you get more money for them in comparison to the junk, that's why I had to destroy the junk from my backpack so often. And here's my point, of course you can sell all the junk at once, but when I have over 20 pieces of junk in my backpack and find a stash with some weapons and shields, but no more space, I had to remove the junk one by one, so annoying sometimes xD
Indeed the companion's live would be much easier, but not always in Awakening Nathaniel would stay in prison or die, Anders would be dragged back to the Circle or die. Leliana could die in Lothering as well as Sten. In DA2 and Inquisition mostly everybody has a good life before we recruit them and if not, there's always an option to solve their problem with the past.
Oh wow! Here you surprised me! I had no idea or even it didn't come to my mind to check the codex after drinking from the well! I must keep it in mind
That's true... If only Alistair learnt more about Loghain, I'm sure he'd give him the chance to live. But for the whole time he wanted to kill him... I wonder though: Alistair is a Ferelden as well, he heard about him for his whole life. He must have admired him or something.
That would be awesome! I was already a bit content when in the end of Awakening they mentioned that my Warden may have travelled to Antiva to Zevran :33 Sten as a new Arishok? Interesting. I already thought I saw Sten in DA2 when a group of qunari appeared led by a sten, forgetting then that it wasn't his real name, but rather a position or job xDD
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I don't think there should be a way to avoid Anders merging with Justice, I mean, in the end that is what made him the person he is in DA2, but I do also miss some foreshadowing in awakening about the whole ordeal, yeah. Something where he's more inquisitive about the nature of Justice, or where Justice expresses his sympathies to Anders' predicament. I also miss Anders' earring in DA XD and I'm still endlessly amused at how flirty and womanizing he is in awakening. I mean, that andraste commentary :')
It's an interesting point about the companion's lives, though, in Nathaniel's case, would he even get caught in the first place? You could argue that if the warden wasn't there to kill his dad in the first place he wouldn't have to sneak into that castle to steal some things. No getting around Anders, Leliana and Sten though... I actually didn't recruit Sten in my first playthrough XD I wasn't satisfied with his lack of explanation on his actions, so I left him there :')
Fenris might have a problem without Hawke, I mean, he might've found a different distraction for that first meeting, but after that he goes on a vengeance tour and I think Danarius would catch up with him and he /would/ go back to being enslaved then... the rest would probably be fine, same indeed for the inquisitor's people, though they might be less happy.
I didn't think to check the codex for the ancient elven text either, I mean, so much happens in that quest it's natural to kind of forget, it's just I read it somewhere so then I knew XD it's very enlightening though :}}
I suppose, for the greater good who knows what Solas is capable of, it's a good point... Either way I'm curious how it will play out with the choice of either Morrigan or the Inquisitor...
I think Alistair may have respected and maybe even looked up to Loghain at some point, but such opinions tend to change when your surrogate father dies thanks to their treachery and they then proceed in trying to kill you. I can relate to Alistair on the matter really, because in a natural playthrough, where I'd make choices according to what I find most logical, I'd choose to punish Loghain as well, I mean, he did send the sexiest assassin after me. There's nothing in the story line that makes you want to redeem him, unless you take the time to find out more about him, but even then it's all pretty far removed from the player. I like that about the DA games though, that you can still choose things like this even if it doesn't really make sense at first.
ah yes, I liked the idea of my warden being with Zev in antiva too, but I wanna see him in his crow outfit <333 I had the same confusion as you when a Sten suddenly appeared in DA2 XD I was all disappointed I couldn't talk to him and thought they retconned him to having horns too now, but then more Sten's popped up and I was a little sad that none of them seemed to be the actual Sten from DA
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Aaaand here I'm back to finally answer you. I'm sorry it took so long and I hope, you had lovely Christmas and a great New Year's Eve!! ;D
I know exactly what you mean! Anders was really cool in Awakening, even when you met him, you just want him to join the party. But hey... I found out that one of the Awakening epilogues options for Anders is: "If left to defend the Keep without enough upgrades to it, he is found dead with an arrow through his neck with hundreds of darkspawn dead in a circle around him; none were touched with a blade, but all were felled by magic." I wonder what would be his explaination to come back alive xD I don't like when a character keeps repeating that the hero won't be happy with him, will be disappointed, etc., but while Anders can be killed with cold blood, I wouldn't be able to leave Blackwall in that cell T-T
Oh my.. You're right, it'd change everything! But on the other hand, I feel Nathaniel has been a better person since he joined the Wardens. Otherwise, he might follow his father's steps or even become someone much worse.
Poor Sten! How could you leave him like this xD I wanted to save as many people in Lothering as possible knowing the town is nearly lost ^^"
Fenris is indeed full of vengeance, but he behaved like an emo kid everytime he could. I don't know, maybe if he liked me more, I'd discover why internet loves him so much. Is it his tragic story or does he have a great character after all? Sometimes it felt more like Justice was in Fenris not in Anders.
I'm done with reading all DA
Indeed, and the plot of Morrigan's child. I still cannot guess if he's going to be a crucial character or not. Looking at his origin, yes, he seems important, but then, it's quite easy to skip the whole ritual.
You're completely right about it. In my first playthrough I killed him too... on the second go. I wanted to save everyone (gosh... i'm so soft-hearted o_o) so as soon as I saw they wanted to execute Alistair I stopped caring about Loghain. Did you have the mass slaughter at the Landsmeet as well, where everybody started killing each other? xD
Sten is a great character, but I have the feeling that in DA
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ahaha, I thought you were finally done with writing mile long dragon age letters XD Glad to hear from you again, my winter holiday was lovely, I hope you had fun as well and that the year will treat you kindly <3
The interesting thing with Origins was that you could opt to kill all the companions at some point. Even Leliana if you choose not to recruit her (though one could argue that she might get away on her own). I'm not sure what would happen if you poison Andraste's ashes in front of her, she might turn on you there... Well... I say all, but I'm actually not sure about Oghren... Either way, some of these characters end up being quite important to the story, so sadly some of those deaths get retconned. (I say sadly, because it would be interesting to see solutions in game where another character steps in to fill the void, or how events in general would be different. Like, what would happen in inquisition if Leliana isn't the spy master, or if Morrigan actually died because you stabbed her) Anders' supposed return from death seems the least jarring compared to these situations. He joined with Justice, so it makes sense that even if he got cornered and killed by darkspawn, he'd still get possessed by justice. Though... That /would/ make him undead... And like Justice in Awakening, he should by right look a little... rotten... And his own soul might not be in his body still to corrupt Justice... Actually this theory is very interesting. (Or he might've joined with Justice before the attack, in which case he might be protected by Justice and come back to life after being found supposedly dead)
Anyway, Dragon Age honouring character deaths would make me more likely to try all these routes out because they could seriously impact the storyline. As a creator I understand it's not always possible to predict every fork in the road though, and they would have to program and animate /so/ much more if they had to take every choice into account...
For the most part I believe they said the epilogue text in all games was meant as "rumours" so some of these rumours are simply proven to be false. It's an easy way out, but... I get it.
As for the Anders/Blackwall comparison, I feel ya. Blackwall's transgressions are in the past and the man he is now would surely not repeat the same mistakes, while Anders' crimes are immediate and without remorse. Still... My poor broken heart. I think it helps that I knew the twist with Anders was coming and I knew nothing about Blackwall, so when he disappeared I was hurt, like... I actually dreamed of him the night after XD It got to me outside the game, and that's some A+ writing right there. I was so angry XD (Same with Solas, I expected the twist, I just didn't expect THAT twist, so when I romanced him I was still really surprised and angry XD )
You might be right about Nathaniel becoming a tyrant without the warden... he's had a twisted youth.
As for Sten and Lothering XD I knew the blight was on our heels and all that, but somehow didn't believe Lothering would actually get overrun after my warden left. But even so, leaving Sten to the darkspawn... He wasn't telling me anything besides "I killed a whole family, I deserve to die" so I just agreed with him :') The only reason I take Zevran along every time is because he at least has his charm going for him and, you know, doesn't want to die :') But I like that about Sten, it's very illustrative of his people, you have to try really hard to get to know him.
I like your view of Fenris, hehe. I just fell in love with him and his voice the moment he stepped in. He's indeed pretty vindictive, but he's more reasonable about it than Anders. He doesn't like you siding with mages but he'll come to accept you for it either way. As for Anders, he's so caught up in his own opinions I don't think he'll ever accept you siding with templars. So yeah, he's grouchy, but he has a dry sense of humour (put him in a party with Isabela and/or Varric) and god... that first kiss scene.... There's a lot of feelings there.
woah! You actually read all the codex entries?! I'm amazed. I sometimes start reading a few, but in the end I just continue playing XD I looked up more info left and right for my DnD party though and it never ceases to amaze me how much writing and background stories go into this world. False accounts and all. It's fantastic.
As for Morrigan's kid, I don't think he matters too much, because the old-god spirit gets taken from him by Flemmeth, so he himself becomes normal afterwards. I hope it won't be the last we see of him if you choose to make him, but I don't think it will matter much u.u
Oh yeah, the landsmeet turned into a fighting party for me too :') chaos that one. There's some surprising options for peace, but gosh, sometimes they're so hard to obtain. You can save Loghain and then save Alistair too, but he'll always leave the party. I'm not sure if this is further tied to him being hardened or not. Stubborn git. I suppose saving is relative though, it's not like he'd do particularly well if he leaves the party :')
I think the developers might not have completely thought out the qunari race during origins, or if they did, they wanted to purposely keep things mysterious. This, combined with Sten's otherwise pretty human looks, did lead me to be rather disinterested in the qunari as a whole. You just don't deal with them in origins, so just like Tevinter, it seemed like a distant concept. Something unrelated to the whole, which is of course true for origins, but still, it was just another mechanic I sort of dismissed. In general conversations in origins progress rather slowly. I always fight with Alistair because after a while he dialogue options just run out and you'll not have garnered enough approval to progress XD. Same with Sten. But I feel it's frustrating too yeah, I'm glad the Iron Bull is more talkative about the whole thing
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Hahah, never too much of Dragon Age! Besides, I enjoy chatting with you about it ^^ Hopefully it'll be so! I need to find a temporary job now in Poland, because I want to study in Enschede, so I want to have some more savings for the uni
That's true. It'd be interesting to see if all of them stay dead after it or how can you survive the game without the crew. As far as I know, if you poison the ashes in front of softened Leliana, she'll indeed turn on you; with the hardened Leliana there's a possiblitily to keep her and lose some approval. If she's not in the party, she'll confront you at the camp and if you fail to convince her that the ashes are fine, she'll leave. What's more I heard about Leliana is that even if you leave her to die in Origins, she'll come back in Inquisition as your spymaster and will have an explaination of Andraste's influence in her return. I bet, for Morrigan there'd be an explaination as well. You're right, it'd be very interesting to see how they'd fill up the gaps, but then it'd lead to sooo many different versions of tha game that it might be crazy xD
I don't completely agree, that Anders should look rotten if he was possessed after death. Wynne is dead and possessed as well, but looks like a good granny. Perhaps it's because she was possessed just after her death and only the Maker knows for how long Kristoff was dead before Justice got into him. Anders might have been possessed quickly after his death as well on the same condition as Wynne and her spirit. As spirits will always be more attracted to mages, it wouldn't have been a problem for Justice to rapidly leave Kristoff's body and enter Anders'.
I guess, I take the epilogue too serious. It's just soo nice to read what happened to all your characters, but even there, there's some mistakes, like once I read that my Warden already left the Keep and few moments later the influence of another character caused that she stayed in the Keep. The confusion is also visible in DA2 and Inquisition, because their first choice as help to deal with Corypheus was the Warden, but no one knows his/her location. However, in Inquisition you get a letter from the Warden, so why wouldn't they track them down? xD
OHhh I totally understand you! Inquisition leaked to my dreams as well! In my case, I knew about the both of betrayals, but in Anders' case I played with thought "I'll change his mind! Hawk will love him, so he'll listen to him, because he'd not like to lose her." Uhh.. I was disappointed a bit, it didn't work like this xDD As for Blackwall, I knew only in general that he'll betray me, but as it came to that point, goooshh.. each scene was a punch into my heart. I felt sooo much compassion to that man. Yet Cole's comment was brilliant: "The name breaks free, pulls the pain with it. A black wall to shield the self when the sky is rainier." As for dreams, I couldn't sleep the most by the end of the game. I was so worried and concerned about my character that sometimes waking up at 5 a.m. I had to go on playing xDD
At some point in Lothering I got a note that there won't be possibility to return, so I had to make sure I did everything ^^" Hah, yeah. His explaination was poor, but it somehow "charmed" me - that with a cold heart he admits what he did and he agrees for the punishment. I wanted him to have a chance to make up for his crime. I love playing as a rogue, but it seems in DA all the funniest characters are rogues, so I often miss their charm in the first play through :C
In my next DA2 playthrough, I'll be a mage, so I'll have in my team Fenris and one of the rogues for sure. And I WILL make him like me! It'll be so much more fun. MMmm a kiss scene you say, I'm eager to see it already xD
I found the codex entries on the internet in PDFs, so whenever I have some free time, I can read them, but while playing it's hardly possible to read them all. There's so much more stuff going around!
I thought this fighting party at Landsmeet would never end... But yes, if you plan to save Loghain, Alistair may become the king only with Anora (and before LM you have to make arrangement for the political marriage if he's softened or you may but don't have to if he's hardened) and he'll leave the party. If you didn't make any arrangement, he's softened and you choose to save Loghain, he'll leave the party and remain a drunk in Kirkwall's tavern - his miserable fate you can see in DA2 - I saw it on yt and it's quite heart-breaking to see him in such a condition :\\\ Oh an he may be executed as well at some point, but I'm not sure if it's strictly connected to Loghain.
You've got a good point about qunari. They evolved much more in DA2 and the Bull himself is a sign of how powerful their race may be. Hmm, talkative you say? Next time I save his boy, because otherwise he sits repeating only one sentence over and over xD
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ooooh! Enschede, for real? that's awesome, what are you going to study? you'll be like, next door XD
hee hee, I knew about convincing Leliana that you didn't poison the ashes cuz that's what I did~ I usually make sure to put all my points in persuasion first so she believed me, no problem :') I should do a little more dramatic play through though, I've had Wynne turn on me for condemning the circle, Shale turned on me for siding with Branka and I straight up not recruited Sten twice, but usually I avoid bringing characters to places where I'll know they'll leave me. They just do such a good job for making you feel guilty for some of your choices, I end up not picking the jerky options 'cuz I'll feel bad XD.
I'm glad Leliana at least offers up some sort of explanation, I don't think Morrigan does that. I've played inquisition twice with a keep that stated I stabbed her but she doesn't mention it... Then again, I don't always take to time to do the full conversation reel with her, so I might've just missed it. She does say that she lived in the crossroads with the Warden and their child for a while if you followed her through the mirror in the witchhunt DLC, so she probably licked her wounds there if you've stabbed her... I don't know... To be honest I've only filled that answer into the keep a couple of times, but I've never actually played out that scene, so I don't know how dead she really is by the end of it :')
With Wynne though, did she get possessed after death? I thought she got possessed somewhere before that, preserving her spirit as well as her body. She is still in control of her own body after all, it's not just the spirit like with Justice. I mean, it could be because she got possessed so soon after death, I don't know, I've only befriended her enough to find out the story once, but from what I remember the spirit protects her from death and came to her before she died.
I'll look it up, now I want to know
Ooooh, yeah, she expressed that the spirit of Faith watched over her, making her a natural spirit healer, but indeed that the spirit possessed her only after death, oho. I guess that means you can save someone's own soul if you possess them quick enough. *nods nods* that could indeed mean Anders got possessed shortly after dying and keep his pretty looks.
In any case it's not so strange that you'd take the epilogue seriously, after all it's the only source of information we have at that point. Dragon Age has proven in the past to employ unreliable narrators (most notable: Varric when he tells us about confronting his brother at first, but also everything about ancient elves ever) so the epilogue being yet another one of those unreliable sources isn't completely unlogical, but it /is/ still pretty mean. In some cases it is accurate of course, so that makes it even more confusing. Mostly i think it's just creators changing their minds about something and proof that they haven't thought out the whole series from start to finish yet :')
As for finding the Warden... It makes even less sense if the warden romanced Leliana, because there's no way she would let them out of her sight. I think you can only contact the warden after recruiting Morrigan though, and by then you've already been declared Inquisitor so you don't really /need/ the warden anymore, same at that Varric only introduces us to Hawke in Inquisition after you reach Skyhold and get promoted. After that point all previous heroes would be nice, but... They're not absolutely necessary anymore.
I love Cole in that he makes every gut punch worse somehow. Like you have with Blackwall (and what a beautiful bit of poetry, dang) I had with the Solas romance, where Cole points out my inquisitor's bare face and embarrassment, and that there's no reason to turn away. Solas asked him to stop there, but I told Cole to continue, and oh man... The pain, it's just... Cole quickly rises to favourite character status~ And after that he even goes on hinting about Solas' ancient elven pain, it's so goood!!
Yes please romance Fenris, it's so good XD But then, I like his grumpy ass, I can imagine it's not for everyone~
oooh, do you still have the link to those codex pdf's? I'd love to read them too
So many possibilities with Allistair, jeez. I know Anora may opt to have him executed if Alistair is the one who ends Logain and if you make her queen. She'll not forgive him for killing her father. If you kill him using the Warden or some other character though she may be persuaded to let Alistair go and he'll become a drunk as well. Sadly I missed his drunk ass in Kirkwall when I went for that option, so I'll have to see if I can find back that save sometime and try again. I did also miss Isabela on my first playthrough, somehow :')
Bull does run out of dialogue pretty fast, as in, with the others new prompts arise over time, but he sorta stays the same. You can ask him a lot about Seheron and such though. He'll tell you even before you have to chose Qunari allies or Krem :}
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Awhh.. not anymore sadly. I've just been offered a job in graphic design in my hometown in Poland, so for the next two years, I don't make any plans. I'd looove to study game design there! They have a pretty awesome curriculum :3
Haha, that's what I do as well! It's so easy to convince everybody if you put the points to persuasion. Although! In Awakening I failed to convince the peasants to go home peacefully when they rioted, so I had to kill them :\
Yeah! I don't want to lose my companions either. Who else would wear all the awesome armour?? I totally wanted to take Shale to the Deep Roads, she deserved to see all this, for the sake of an achievement I needed to side with Branka. Really, I did not want to fight with Shale, nope. They're the best in making you feel guilty. . . If I wake up in the middle of the night and start thinking about it, I'll not fall asleep again xD
Morrigan is so mysterious that she doesn't need any explanation for her actions xD All right, I'll stab her and see what she has to say. But on the internet I couldn't find anything that would be related to her revival.
Yay! So actually Anders' fusion makes some sense and since Justice turns into Vengence, no wonder why he can gain control over him. The spirit of Faith makes Wynne, because they've known each other for ages and the Faith believes in Wynne's good will.
That's a good point you have there about the epilogue. So we have to wait till the next game to know what really happens to our Inquisitors
True that, always you get a new hero, so your past ones go to mentions only usually. Also I imagine it'd be more complicated to bring back a mute character.
Hahaha wow! At some point I didn't want to romance Solas at all, but thanks to you I get to know how much fun it can be as well! I totally have to romance him once! I need to hear this all for myself! xDD
Here are the codex entries: www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/com…
And I talked to a girl who played with a looot of mods! She even sent me a list with links to the recommended ones so if You wanted to try them out, let me know
Hahah, quite strange that if the Warden kills Loghain and Anora is the queen, she still agrees to save him if her father's executor asks her xD Ohhh my heart hurted so much when I saw Alistair drunk like this, so helpless and poor and kind of gone crazy.
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Really? they offer game design in Enschede? that's pretty rad, what's the school's name? Etherway, too bad you're not gonna do it, but awesome you got offered a steady position like that! I mean, working beats school.
I had to kill the peasants in awakening as well, I'm not sure if I ever succeeded in persuading them... Maybe once? they're a pretty troublesome bunch. It always feels awful to fight a big group of peasants like that. I felt the same with the peasant group just outside of lothering and Merrill's clan :')
ah yeah, I had to side with Branka as well because the last times I sided with Carradin XD But I wanted to see what she'd do in the caverns. In the end that was that for Shale.... Having to fight the gollems was as sucky as I imagined it though, aaargh, one of the hardest battles in there.
No, the mansion doesn't really get mentioned... but I imagine it serves as a summer home to the inquisitor and their love interest? I mean, Kirkwall is a pretty turbulent place, I can imagine that the inquisitor might not want to live there permanently after the whole breach thing. Besides, they're still doing a lot of secret inquisition stuff post Trespasser :} They might be to busy to live there, I mean, they're hinting towards Tevinter and Kirkwall is still pretty far away from there.
It'd be even harder to bring the warden back because there's no clear indicator of tone. I mean you never get to point out what kind of options you choose for the inquisitor for the majority (like, when you can, do you pick sad, optimistic or aggressive) like you did with Hawke. But at least there's a tone in there somewhere, but with the warden it's all text. There's nothing for the game to fill in :') It's a shame because they're all awesome characters and I'd love to see them return.
I wonder if the next game will be with the inquisitor as main character. I mean, probably not, because it'd be an odd break in the franchise, but it'd be interesting to play a one armed character. It does make it kind of vital to play Trespasser though and that'd be a shame. We probably haven't seen the last of them yet though, I mean, they still have an errant elf to catch <3
Yessss, go forth and romance Solas. His design did not appeal to me at all, but, man, he really won me over <3
Thank you for the link!
I'm good on mods, thanks, somehow I feel modding is too much trouble u.u but if I ever want to I'll look it up
Right? "Hey I just killed your dad, but eh... Don't kill that guy, ey?" perfect sense. I mean, I guess Eamon's there to back you up, but... yeah...
Must be the high persuasion
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Yes, they do! The school name is Saxion University of Applied Sciences and the bachelor in game design lasts 4 years. That's true - young, graduate and with work experience - that's what all of them employers want, so let it be xD
Oh yes, slothering bunches of innocent fools doesn't feel nice. BUT it's all in self-defence! I mean, we try to make the right choices, it's not our fault, they don't understand our good intentions and attack.
I would never want to fight with Shale. Like you mentioned, fighting gollems is hard enough, but fighting the one you skilled and equipped yourself, oh man, good luck!
True that. Kirkwall doesn't belong to the most pleasant places to live or to start a new life. Well, nice of Varric, he offered it. Maybe they simply sold it afterwards.
Indeed, I'd love to see the main heros back all togather. But you're right, there's rather no need to hope, the warden would come back in any ways. I guess, the only tiny visual return is in DA2 in a flashback, when you talk to Cullen and your warden was a female human mage trying to pick up this handsome templar. I like the idea, that there's some characters, who met all of your heroes. It bounds them all together kind of
Sadly, I don't believe the inquisitor would appear as the main character. True though, it'd be so interesting to play, but the whole Inquisition itself doesn't function as a strong fraction anymore. What I do hope, however, Inquisitor would be an advisor to the new hero, because at the battlefield they'd be too vulnerable and who would know Solas better than the Inquisitor?
I can see... I kind of want to try out some mods, but then it's too much trouble to install them xDD This is what keeps me from playing recently!
With high persuasion you can do everything xD And in this case Alistair is more assertive than Anora - when he decides to leave, he leaves, no matter how much he loved the warden or whatever and there no persuasion will help. Although, I heard him saying he'd be the one leading the final battle anyways, but as a king not a warden. And then what? I see Anora making the speach to the knights and where was he????
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*shows up again a million years later* (though it is probably time to wrap this thread up, I can talk about DA forever XD )
You 're right though, it's nice that there's a character who ties it all together. I don't think Cullen will return... well maybe... they did say he worked till the end... maybe a small cameo... but he must be tired of all the conflict :')
I also like your hope for the inquisitor to become an advisor, you're right after all, who knows Solas better :} aaah with Mass Effect finally launching I hope there'll be some more news on DA4 soon~
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Hahahha You're right 
Same here! Cannot wait to hear more news about next part of DA!
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oh! that's definitely be fun ^^ can you give me the link to your facebook? (through note is fine too if you don't want to put that in a public comment, my facebook is set so only friends of friends can send me a request, so it might be better if I send you a request instead
as for the DAI multiplayer, I think it'd be more fun with people you know as well
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Note sent!
I just hate when I get to a team, where everyone is only dashing ahead, hardly looting anything xD
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THIS IS HOW I FELT THE FIRST TIME I PLAYED THROUGH
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No not at all, my very first playthrough i romanced Blackwall and I got to this and just screamed angrily at the television. Ultimately I saved him, but I was very upset I didn't have the chance to slap him to beat him up.
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I know right? I was kind of hoping I could sentence him to death just for extra drama so I pulled him out of the jail. In the end I told him to join the grey wardens and ended my romance with him :') I was cut deep man. But that's the show of a good character. this game is amazing just for getting me so worked up over this.
I kinda regret not doing the full romance now, but who knows... maybe later
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Right? Especialy with the trespasser DLC out, honestly I ended up romancing Solas the second time, bailed out on the play through because he's an egg, and now on my current play through I've been pretty happy with the Cullen romance.
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hehehehe I totally wanna romance the egg too, indeed especially because of that damn DLC like, I thought Blackwall walking out on me was bad, but jeez Solas, you butt!
I hear good things about the Cullen romance so I wanna try that too. And Josie... and Dorian and Iron Bull.... I wanna try them all damnit XD
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You know what I did? In my my recent playthrough, since I finally got an xbox one and was like /why not replay/ I played as a female elf, since they have the most romance options, up into the second act, but didn't interact with any of the romance options, and instead I played through every area of the map and did all the hit up until before the Ball and Adament, and then I saved and started romancing Cullen, and saved it as a separate file. Now once I'm done with the Cullen playthrough I can load up that other one and start through with Iron Bull or Solas or Sera or whoever.
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oooh, that does save time! hehehe, I sooo regret not taking blackwall to the ball!
I wanted to dance with him damnit :')
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