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I was feeling stressed today and last night over homework so instead of doing said homework i drew :
)The ones with the open eyeholes is the Gyroid Face phenomenon on Animal Crossing Gamecube and the other one is a dead cat I found today and put in my freezer to skin and clean its bones and hopefully tan its hide if it's in good enough condition.
Art (c) Me
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Thank u so much 
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oooooh I don't know why I love this so much but I do
but cats are beautiful creatures
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thank you so much
And ye cats r super neat!
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Oh man lov these poses!!
I've wanted to start collecting roadkill and get the bones such but I have no idea how to go about doing that and I deffo don't think my parents would be chill about bringing dead animals into the house, they're already kind of :/ at me putting dead bugs in the freezer so I can pose them
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Thank you so much!! and I'm glad i have my own apartment so I can do this kind of stuff with animals TBH lol
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this
how to answer this
wait
feet
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with nails of steel for peeling
wow creative
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good luck with the pelt Ive never tried to do it bc its so much work than getting bones agh
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Thank you!!
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Why are you going to tan its hide? Is it for decoration? Just wondering, I've only ever really seen hides at archery or hunting supply stores.
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Just for something to keep; he/she is SUPER pretty. I might hang it on my wall uwu
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N U T
oof i love your art, especially the story behind the kitty. Poor thing!! but you're giving it a new life and story, that's super rad my dude ♥
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Bringing second lives to dead things makes me feel like I'm going something good c: Also I'm really glad you like my art
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This. This is dope. Along with utilizing an animal that was in a tragic situation but giving it new life in some other way.
Kudos to you mate.
Kudos.
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Thank you so much
It makes me feel good because the cat was a feral cat I've seen around and I knew that he/she would just be tossed because no one cared about him/her so at the very least I can have him/her live on and be admired long after he/she is gone esp. after a life of being a stray. Most of my specimens are like that. I have a bunch of baby animals that died shortly after being born or inside of eggs before they hatched. The only one I have that doesn't have a backstory is my lamprey since it was used for some vague scientific study and just looks cool.
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Man, tough life for feral cats, specially if its more up north
where it gets really cold. So its really special if someone comes along and has
their story live on, instead of just being tossed pretty much in a dump somewhere.
Thats bloody fantastic though! I tend to do the same and have
several specimens myself, no babies however, just some ive found along side roads
or when I walk along the tracks.
Lampreys are dope looking, so Id agree! Is it in a jar? Like preserved that way? o0o
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Yeah and I know people around where I live don't like ferals much and will sometimes kick them or be mean to them :/ (I'm in Boston so it gets pretty cold)
And all of my specimens so far are wet specimens in jars!!
And yo Lampreys r bomb AF. he's been posed so his mouth is like pressed up against the glass it's really cool
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Aweh ;n; thats a bummer. Where I live is semi country side?
(In NY closer to Canada so it gets hella cold but specimens are well preserved so, win win)
Its a small town so road kill is bound to happen, I was able to utilize
a porcupine just several weeks ago, sadly its skull was crushed to bits
but non the less it was put back together with the help of my dermestid beetles ^^
How would wet specimens work? Like what would be the liquid they're preserved in?
Never really understood that because I always thought they would get stinky o0o
Bruh thats awesome, seein all the lil teeth like things on the inside of its mouth. Thats really cool!
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Thats neat!! Go beetles!!
And They're preserved by injecting Formalin into all of their muscles/fatty tissues/holes and then you put them in Isopropyl Alcohol (70%) and they're preserved!!
I personally don't do this kind of preservation though because Formalin is carcinogenic
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All I have is a small colony so neither do I, just enough to keep
them around when I need them, its also pretty cool by just
keeping the whole skeleton then putting it back together with glue and
a thin gauge wire to have the anatomy of that specimen. Takes forever and frustrating
at times....glued my fingers together twice before. But pretty great in the end!
Well damn ono I wouldnt want to either. I had a friend tell me long time ago that
you can do the same procedure but with just the alcohol?
Non the less those who do it that way with formalin are nuts and kudos to them for doing it that way.
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If you inject alcohol it doesn't work unfortunately :c
But that's kinda why I'm getting more into just cleaning the skeletons and tanning the hides because it's something that I can do and won't give me cancer lol I'm hoping the skull isn't fractured since I think Kitty was hit by a car :c I also hope the pelt isn't too decomposed since he was on the side of the road for at least 24 hours (My friend said he saw the cat out there the day before but he said the flies hadn't found it yet) It had a wound on its front half and the skin/flesh/insides looked pretty pink and nice.
I've got Kitty in my freezer right now and I'm going to start macerating the bones this weekend and possibly tan the hide at the same time.
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Huh, well that stinks ono but hey now I know if I ever wanted to try it.
Also to tell if its too far gone, the pelt, is to just tug on the hair in some places.
If chunks come out then its too far,(of course dont yank on it just tug it a bit) you can also see if the pelt flesh
is super white in color or blueish color then your set (once skinned), if its green or a deep yellow then they hair might slip.
I mean you might have already known it but thought id just say ^^|ll If you're a bit skeptical of it though, just salt the hide
for a few days to keep the hairs in to prevent slippage. I mean Im not sure how thin or thick cat hides are because Ive never
done one, just going off what I know with squirrels and such that Ive done over the years.
Also if I may ask, what kind of cat was it?
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Oo good advice thank you!!
From what I saw it was a nice pink/red but that was just where the cat had been injured so I'm not sure about the rest. I'm going to give it a try nonetheless (: The smell of death wasn't rolling outta him either which is a good sign (I'm sure if I puncture an organ it'll be vile though lol)
I'll post pictures when I'm done for sure!!
I'm also expecting a decent amount of backlash for it too since cats are gods on the internet lol
And its a Calico cat!! Standard cat body style- on the small side with medium-short fur. I didn't get a chance to look at the tail since there was a woman staring at me when I was putting it in the bag and he's been in the freezer ever since. (My roommate is very squeamish so I haven't taken it out since I put it in there)
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Youre welcome! Ive tanned a lot for about 2 years along with trial and error XD
Also if you have the whole cat frozen the stench wont be as bad if you punctured it,
if you skin it semi-frozen, like you start skinning the bits that arnt frozen and go from there,
for me its a bit easier because the gristle isnt so greasy and slippery.
Sweet! Cant wait to see 'em! I know I'm really interested to see how you do things with tanning
and all the works!And yes, you may loose a few people for it because its a domesticated cat
(not really since its been living out doors but people view them that way) and they probably dont
have an open mind about what youre doing with them. Its not like youre disrespecting the animal
in anyway other than preserving it for an extended life.
Wow, from the description it sounds like a pretty thing you've got there, its a shame though that it wouldnt be a complete
fur with the hole in it, but non the less a little sewing will do the trick! I would have just made eye contact with the
lady then just slowly walked away, straight faced too XD
(When you do take the cat out make sure to brush it out really good too, because if you dont and
you skin it you may make a hole in the skin because there might have been a burr or matt that was left there.
Just thought id toss this in there too, give ya all my knowledge because im unsure on how much you know ;u
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Ooo neato!! Thank you so much for the extra info!! I've never tanned fur before but someone I know who tans rabbit hides told me a really good and easy way to do it! I've skinned and gutted TONS of animals but this is new for me. I took the cat out of the freezer yesterday around noon and put him/her in the fridge to defrost slowly because I'm going to try to skin him/her before the guts defrost.
I've been looking on Lost Pet websites/forums to see if the cat was lost so I can at least tell the owner that their cat was struck by a car (I'm not going to tell them I now have the cat lol) But I figured I can at least give them closure.
I'm really hoping the skull is ok; I had a good look at the cat yesterday and he 100% got hit by a car. His bottom jaw is probably cracked/broken which doesn't give me much hope for the rest of his skull. The good thing is that his eye sockets, gums and tongue are still really pinkish red and he even bled inside of my bag so he's much fresher than anticipated.
And yeah I'm sure a few people will come @ me for this or unwatch me but to be fair, a cat is no different than a squirrel or a pig. The only real difference is we keep cats in our homes as companions more often then other animals. And plus, if I had left him there, he would've just been put in quite literally the garbage.
The cat is a really pretty mix of calico and tabby coloration so I'm excited for the pelt to be done because it's really unique and colorful.
I 100% appreciate the information and tips!!
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You see, youre doing the right thing rather than just picking up the cat and making use to it.
Many people around where I live (know a few) tend not to go the extra length when it comes
to cats that have come to a tragic end, so they just pick it up and do what they want with it. Id
at least wait a few days to see if anything pops up for the owner n such.
Thats good! Fresh meat means it hasent gotten all yucky (had my fair share of that, good times),
If youre not impatient (like me) id recommend getting a strainer with small holes and just putting
the whole skull in there. Just make sure all the fur is off it and just have meat on their and boil it
till the skill on top of the skull starts to split then start scraping the meat off. So as you do that all
of the little skull bits dont get lost and you could just glue it all together. Also did your friend recommend alum and salt?
I couldnt have said it better myself, all animals were wild first before humans domesticated them. Its really
not different from when someone hunts a mountain lion. All it is its a bigger cat. Cant wait to see the pics you post!
If you need more tips on anything I could provide with what info ive obtained over the years QuQ)/
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Neato!! And ye they recommended Alum and Salt!!
I've heard that boiling bones makes them brittle and I'm worried for my dear cat bones lol!!!!
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Ah it doesnt, ive done it with squirrel skulls and others, that only happens when
you either put bleach, or a lot of oxi-clean. Just a small pot with a little bit of soap
wont harm it. Also that only happens when youve boiled it for too long, which is
why you take them out when the skin on the top of the skull starts to part.
Or you could just put the bones in water and leave it outside for it to rot off, effective,
but really smelly XD
I use alum and salt too, works great for anything, big or small! I due recommend though
that if you havent already put it in the pickle is to salt the hide first, then put it in there.
Ive had so many problems with my squirrel pelts fur slipping and leaving bald spots. Once
ive salted them though for a few days, it was good.
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oo okay!! I'll be sure to salt it for a few days first!!! And okay!! I think I'll boil the bones then since maceration seems so fuckin gross lol
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Oh it is, the worst thing ever is the smell, its like the raunchiest most
horrible fart ever made. But the end product is pretty spot on. Ive done it
a few times and might have puked once, but worth it if you can get past the smell lmfao
also did it with a deer skull once. Lets just say it was like a scene in saw.
(thus the reason why I use beetles now lol lost less stench)
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lolol thatm akes sense!!
It doesn't matter tho since I decided that the bones weren't worth it. The cat (it's a she!) got OBLITERATED by a car. Her skull was in at least 12-20 pieces and all of the bones from her pelvis up were shattered (not counting legs; those were fine) And since I was mostly interested in the skull, I decided it wasn't worth it.
The pelt came off rather beautifully though!! The whole inside was a nice pink minus one small green spot that I'm hoping will be alright. I got the face off and most of the tail too!!!
Question: Do you leave the nose on or take it off? ;0; Also do I take the ears off? (I left the nose and ears on for now and I forgot about the salting and put them in the Alum/Salt bath already whoops!!!)
There is one big hole in the pelt from road rash which is a bit of a bummer, but the rest of the pelt came off beautifully!! I got 85% of the tail too which took the longest because it's so darn skinny lol
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Its too be expected when things are hit by a car, poor girl QuQ
I just leave the nose and ears on, but with the nose in the skin side I
trim off most of the cartilage as i can before I get to the actual nose skin.
As for the ears when you're done pickling them just play with them a lot
to prevent them from going really stiff, if you want them to stand when youre
done stretching the hide get some semi-thick cardboard and use either push pins
or paper clips to keep them in place. Also trim off as much cartilage as you can,
just the big bits a little bit is good.
Its not really a bad thing if you dont salt it, all it does it ensures the hairs dont
fall out. However with the tan you're doing it does the same thing but its a bit
of a slower process, so it should be fine! Also for that green spot its should lighten
up if you leave it in there a day or two longer after the take out date. Was it a dark
green spot or a light?
Also if you want to get the tail out in one piece with out it getting cut of halfway
(happened to me every time I skinned something myself, pissed me off every time lmao)
this is a good vid that helps a crap ton since I dont have a tail stripper.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni6tG7…
Used that method for pretty much all the specimens I skin. Then you just lay it flat on the table make sure
its straight and then cut it right down the middle! Should've aided you with that before had
QnQ
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Oo thank you for the video!!! I'm thinking I might go back and skin the rest of the tail tomorrow since theres a little bit left and I can just sew it on c:
When the pelt is done soaking in the solution, I'll be sure to scrape the back of the nose and I might try to take the big pieces of cartilage out of the ears as well.
The green spot was light and not too green. It was just where the pelt had been sitting after it got hit and it's only about the size of a golf ball. The cat seemed very fresh when I skinned her; she bled all over the place and her muscles were a really nice pink color.
I'm really excited for the pelt to be done!! One more question though!!! When it's originally soaking is it supposed to smell? It's in the Alum/Salt solution (It's not a weak solution by any means haha I've read lots of things about people not adding enough Alum/Salt) The pelt has been in the solution for most of the day and it doesn't smell unless I stir it up.
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Youre welcome! So since its not that big of a green spot I think it should
be alright. Now is the smell like a death rotten smell, or does it smell like
an off smell because that could be the solution so I wouldn't be alarmed, itd be like
a salty iron kind of smell.
However if its the death smell like something has been in the fridge too long and died,
Id take it out, give it a good rinse in soap and water (warm to more cold
since it smells somewhat bad then you dont want bacteria to grow if it may still
be there but not super cold because then youll run the risk of hair slippage)
with any hand soap or shampoo should do the trick, then switch out the
solution. You dont want it too strong or itll do the opposite you want it to do. The
ratio should be 1 cup salt ,1 cup alum per 2 gallons. Or if you have a smaller solution
then 10 ounces of alum (20 tbs if you dont have a scale or if you have a measuring cup then 1 1/4 cup)
then 2 ounces of salt (just double the cup amount used for the alum). Then when you put her in
the water fold it in half so the skin will take up most of the solution (if you didnt case skin it,
meaning a tube like thing, if case skinned then just plop 'er in there skin side out).
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Okay! Yeah the smell isn't quite dead animal but it's not the solution. It's not that ammonia smell of death but it's for sure related to corpse stench. That's the ratio I have right now so at least there's that haha!!!
I'll have to go out tomorrow since I'm in for the night but I'll go first thing in the morning. The smell isn't horrible but it's definitely concerning. For the time being should I add more salt or just leave it?
I have the pelt weighed down too so it's not near the surface at all
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Ah well good! Id just leave it as is for now till you take it out
and wash it, then when you put it back it put in 1/4 cup of
both alum and salt in the solution thats there if you dont want
to change out the mixture, Id recommend it, but if you take it out
and all it does is the mix just smells like salt then you can just leave it.
So far youre doing all the right things so far! Anther reason for the stench
maybe that you have chunks of big meat on there maybe?
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I went out and bought more alum this morning and changed the mixture just to be safe! I gave the pelt a really good rinse under room temp/warmish water and put it into a new alum/salt bath. The only part of the hide that has chunks of meat on it is around the rump area where there's some fat but that's it as far as meat goes. I'm going to go over it again and de-flesh it some more on Monday.
The solution the cat was in before turned a dark color too which I'm not sure why it did that since I thought I rinsed off the pelt really well. The underside of the pelt is a uniform brownish color now.
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Huh, Ive never had that happen to me or heard of that o-o
Maybe though there was probably some blood caked in the fur somewhere
and seeped threw things. Id just keep an eye on it and see how things
pan out. The salt and alum should whiten up the flesh side a bit more
if not then once you scrape it more just to get the left over fat and saddle
off it should be a lighter brown then once you stretch it should be a white.
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Ooo okay!
I'm hoping it's not ruined ahhhhh I'm worried about my cute kitty lol!!! I'm so proud of how well I skinned it since it was my first time haha
Should the pelt be at a certain temp? I have it at room temp rn (I live in an apartment so I gotta keep it in my room cos it's gotta be away from my squeamish roommate)
Also how long should I leave it in the Alum/Salt solution? My friend said 1 week but I've been googling around and online, people's times vary VASTLY (from 2 days to 2 weeks)
Tomorrow I'm probably going to flesh it out since I haven't removed the subcutaneous membrane yet and that might help it smell less.
Would it be alright if I applied borax to the skin when I flesh it if it still smells horrid? If not it's fine TBH it's fairly tolerable
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Id say keep it at a cooler temp to prevent it from rotting even
though thats what the solution prevents, thats just what I do.
However its fairly alright to leave it at room temp. Does it still
smell bad? If so then next time in the future get all of the fat
and heavy chunks of meat off there to prevent the smell, leaving
the saddle on is alright. It should come off easier after 2 days in the
solution.
It all really depends how thick the skin is, for small animals like rabbit
and squirrels 3 days should be good, I just leave mine in there for about a
week or whenever I get to them. Deer and other big thicked animals I leave it
in there for a week and 5 days ish. In reality the skin is tanned after 2 days
but allowing it to sit longer ensures that its well tanned threw and less
work that you will have to do to make it soft(flesh side). So since youre having
a bit of problems with it at this moment I'd only keep it in there for about 5 days,
then check on it. If youre able to tug the hair and nothing slips out in chunks
(you will have some, not a lot of fur come out because thatll be the loose hair
that was already out, thus the brushing before hand), if it doesnt smell like death
and the water is still clean (sometimes using this method the water will get
a bit mucky with the salts taking out the oils in the skin) you can leave it for the rest of the
2 days that are left. Then take it out dry the fur side as best you can then let it dry.
Not too much though because then you wont be able to see the visible white when you stretch
it and itll be really hard too. You'll be about to see it when you start pulling the skin
itll change from a dull white to a leathery paper towlish white. Itll be bright.
Ive never added borax but its okay if you do, just make sure you wash it out good before you
put it back in the solution because the borax can have a negative reaction with the salt.
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Ye I've seen a lot about stretching pelts!!
I fleshed it a bunch just now and the pelt is VERY GREASY. I got most of the membrane off (a few spots were pretty stuck) and Also I wasn't sure how to flesh the face since the skin is really thin there.
The smell seems to be a lot less now since I was able to flesh it without puking but the stench is still not very nice. I'm hoping that by fleshing it, the smell with decrease. Also the one green spot has some kind of bug larvae on the other side of it so I'm assuming that has something to do with it. I'm going to go back and scrape them out with a brush later c:
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Nothing a little more soap and water wont fix XD make sure its
cold now though since you found the larvae, did it look like fly?
Or was it one huge thing, because you still have a chance to save it
if it was a giant thing then it might have been a bot fly larvae.
Also the easy way is to just get a spoon or something dull, and with
a bit of force scrape it that way(the head) and you can use scissors to cut any
big chunks of meat. And for future reference flesh it before you put
it in the solution cx makes life easier so then all youd have to worry about
is the saddle and little to no stank. Regardless though the smell should go down with all
the meat n stuff gone. Make sure to clean that green pocket well or just
cut the hole to not risk the whole thing going bad
If I saw bug larvae I would puke, cry, then continue to work on it.
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I looked more closely and they're lice. I'm assuming the salt/alum will kill them but I'll be sure to make sure they're gone. I'll keep and eye on that green spot for sure. I might wash the whole pelt with Lice shampoo too just to be safe (Bugs creep me out xD )
Here are some pictures of the pelt:
(The alum solution was new this morning and I even rinsed her off really well AND fleshed her anD ITS STILL BROWN)
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My gosh, shes got a hella pretty pelt, holy moly.
You see this is a first for both of us because I've never done
a cat, and outdoor one for sure. Now maybe the reason why its still
brown is because no amount of washing probably wont get deep into
the coat of the cat so since the salts are drawing out the oils its taking out
the dirt n crud out of the second coat. So its going to be dirty, now you can leave
the pelt in there just as long as you dont smell and extreme death smell and the
fur isnt slipping then youre fine and wont have to keep changing out the water and
salt.
Now...like...are the bugs alive???? Because if so damn because didnt you put her in
the freezer for a few days? They should have died ^(QAQ)^
(bot fly larvae and maggots creep me out the most, like I can handle gore, puss filled things,
and stuff of that nature. But festering maggots....//shudders)
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