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Published: 2014-12-21 03:35:20 +0000 UTC; Views: 599; Favourites: 23; Downloads: 0
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Roommate-friend Tiercels and I started this collab a while ago and I finished it today!She lined and I designed C: The full-res will be noted to owners.
"big elegant leafdragons" - Tiercels
Other Arbors: Fallen Leaves [closed]
1. Harvest Moon
Price: $25 | 2500
Owner:
2. Snowberry
Price: $25 | 2500
Owner: TheLieutenant
Art by Tiercels & Caesol
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They look so awesome me want and yet I don't have enough points for number #1
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I noticed that you sold one already- in the link above. You do not offer a reference for your "work in progress closed species", so, due to the rules of copyright, I figure you have to change your species and, perhaps, refund the person for the adopt they bought from you/your roommate.
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I went to compare and this species looks absolutely nothing like this lieutenant's persons species, so yea. Also it's very rude to attack someone right on their image, you should definitely just send a note next time if you feel someone is copying someone o-o.
But yea the species aren't similar. At all.
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If it is similar, as the owner of this "species" and the owner or Kidauren will decide, then I wanted to limit the damage. I do not want these selling, if the species is deemed similar, because then the people who bought them will have to be refunded and it'd all just be a very big mess. However, I posted before the similarities. I'll paste them here: Their traits that are similar are not only the nature themes or the quadruped build, but the antlers, the bushy chest/neck fur, and look at the tails as well. Even the little rump details. There are a few differences but I'm just saying the species is similar. This is just a personal position, and it was my job to bring it up, but it is TheLieutenant's job to say whether or not it's similar, and if they say it's not, then I apologize. However, I find this design very close, and that's why I brought it up. Art theft is very common, and I'm trying to prevent it. I'm sorry I came off as rude- again, I didn't mean to.
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As much as I don't agree with that and want to explain why, this case is apparently closed and I'd rather not keep it going c:
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I do not believe you should be selling these. They are nearly identical to TheLieutenant 's species, Kidauren. (See the ref here: fav.me/d7s7cev) This species is closed, which means you aren't allowed to sell them.
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Hello! I'm the roommate-friend who created the species. Thanks for raising your concern, I appreciate that you're trying to prevent art theft in a civil way!
I have never heard of Lietenant or their species, so any similarity is a coincidence. I just wanted a dragon with a fluffy fur/leaf mane, sticks for horns, and a somewhat burly face, chest, legs, and tail. From what I can tell of the Kidaurens, they're very petite, elegant, and deer-based, with big ears and cloven feet. If you see a similarity, I haven't done a great job of drawing my species! I'll make sure that future artwork will reinforce their differences.
I'm happy to speak to Lieutenant if you're concerned-- though if you already contacted them I'll just wait and see what they say. c: Really, no harm was meant, I personally don't see much similarity.
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Ah! Thank you for getting back to me in such an understanding manner.
I honestly believed it was a coincidence; I didn't really think you or the other purposely stole it. I hope you realize that, though my wording is poor... I just wanted to point out the similarities because it's a new/wip species, and I was hoping that you'd be able to open-mindedly edit it? I unno! I just noticed the hoof/foot difference- sorry about that! I was focusing mainly on the structure of the antlers, the tails, the little bump-ities.
I think they're offline, actually! But I think, based on how DeviantArt works, since I used the "dev" thing, they'll get a mention? Not sure though. Sorry if you see me as coming off rude as well, I just. I feel like.. species are crossed a lot. Especially with "Closed species". I mean, it comes to that. People can only be so original before something looks similar to something else- the same thing goes for adopts.
Thank you for being nice- and I apologize for posting on the deviation instead of sending a note, but hopefully you understand my reasoning for that. And sorry for starting a small bit of a "comment war" with the fans of you and your species; I honestly didn't mean to be rude, but I realize I may come off like that a little bit.
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I'm the other half, hello. I noted Lieutenant, and there is no real problem. I am not going to screenshot our notes to prove this, but if you ask her, you can see that the conflict is resolved.
I've been on here five years without drama. If you ever have a problem, note me. I've refrained from commenting until I've gotten a reply back from Lieutenant.
Next time you see something like this, I encourage you to take things to notes with the party you're trying to defend instead of attempting to take matters into your own hands. While I get you're trying to be civil, commenting on someone's piece as if you're trying to out them for something that was merely coincidental is bad business. 
As you can see, it really only leads to a bigger mess.
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Lieutenant has already gotten back to me, so please don't stress yourself further with screenshots. Thank you for waiting for a reply before replying. And yes, I'm aware.
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I wasn't going to.
No problem. ^^
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I appreciate it! Actually, I am a little unsure of why you did this publicly instead of noting us, and it seemed more about issuing refunds than suggesting we make edits. The jump to "you can't sell these" instead of "you should discuss with the other artist" came off as a bit abrupt, which was why some people got upset. Maybe you can bear that in mind if this happens again? There are definitely a lot of art thieves out there, but there are a lot of honest coincidences, too!
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Ah- I'll clear that up for you. The reason I did this publicly because I didn't want someone to buy the adoptables, if in fact they were stolen. Because obviously, if this was a stolen species, which it isn't, it'd be bad for both the original creator of the species, as well as the person who bought the adoptable. Yes, thank you. This has truly been a learning experience. I haven't actually gotten this badly flamed before, haha.
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I see where you're coming from, but it's easy for us (and the people who jumped to our defense) to feel hurt and offended when you were trying to scare people away from our adopts without getting the story straight. Because you made a false accusation, we now have a big mess in the comments which might put people off of the art. My friend and I are upset about having drama for the first time.
I wouldn't call any of this flaming. The backlash happened because you made a false accusation in public, with the intention of harming our business. Your intentions were good, but please go about this differently next time!
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Im sorry but... No. This comment is wrongly accusatory and i looked at BOTH these species and if you cant tell the difference between this ~ fav.me/d89v5f7 and These (above) then you most likely need your eyes checked. They look pretty much nothing alike besides MAYBE having four legs and a nature theme. Lets be honest: Nature themes are pretty common around dA whether adopts or original OCs/ pieces. etc. I could understand your comment if they looked actually similar, but.....They dont. And a far more respectful route could have been taken for this by NOTING the person instead of yelling "STEAL-ER MC STEAL-ER PANTS!" all over the page. That's just plane disrespectful and basically saying "i WANT to ruin this person's rep."
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If it is similar, as the owner of this "species" and the owner or Kidauren will decide, then I wanted to limit the damage. I do not want these selling, if the species is deemed similar, because then the people who bought them will have to be refunded and it'd all just be a very big mess. However, I posted before the similarities. I'll paste them here: Their traits that are similar are not only the nature themes or the quadruped build, but the antlers, the bushy chest/neck fur, and look at the tails as well. Even the little rump details. There are a few differences but I'm just saying the species is similar. This is just a personal position, and it was my job to bring it up, but it is TheLieutenant's job to say whether or not it's similar, and if they say it's not, then I apologize. You're not exactly being the nicest ever. Perhaps I do need to get my eyes checked. But once again, this is MY personal opinion. I'm sorry I came off as rude- again, I didn't mean to.
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Im just having trouble seeing the point where someone can immediately say this was stolen. A lot of species adopts look similar like these. The double build, tail, and everything on these aren't exactly original in this community or line of work. Plus these look far more reptilian/dino-esque while the other remind me of coyotes or deer. >< And i'm sorry for a bit of rudeness myself but this just bothers me. It was unprovoked and i just do not agree to the supposed reasons of why you immediately jumped to this conclusion.
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Honestly? It's neither of our opinions that matters. It's the owner of this species, Arbors, and the owner of the other species, Kidauren. They will decide on the species similarity. Right now? We're both causing them more stress and more trouble. So if you, or for that matter, any of the other people who "immediately jumped to the conclusion" of me being rude and wrong have something to say, please note me. I was bringing this "slight" similarity up to both wonderful artists, and now that it's up, please wait for them to work it out with themselves.
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I agree with you only to a point. I agree with the fact that it IS up to them to decide but the fact that you called out this artist publicly tells me otherwise. You could have just as easily note both artists, namely the one you believe this was "stolen" from and told them. It would've gone a lot smoother and less animosity would have been a possibility. So i just only half believe you on that one. Just saying.
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Ah! Your opinion is fine! The owner of this species has commented me back! So there's no need for you to worry anymore!
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Good. Glad this is settled then.
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Nearly identical? There are many creatures with the same quadruped build and nature themed. They don't look much alike other than having those traits, which again, are commonly used in adoptables. o-o'
I seriously do not see anything else other than that. Lieutenant's species have a longer, narrower snout, actually they resemble more of a deer-like quality to me which are lovely <33 --- while these have a much shorter snout and even reptile-like appearance. Kidauren have slender legs while these have a bit more bulk. I see enough differences between the two, truthfully. ='D
I just can't comprehend why you needed to comment so rudely, accusing these people of copying a species, and stating these two refund a person who bought an adoptable, instead of noting them? o-o
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I don't feel like I commented rudely at all? I honestly apologize if I sounded rude, as I didn't mean too. Their traits that are similar are not only the nature themes or the quadruped build, but the antlers, the bushy chest/neck fur, and look at the tails as well. Even the little rump details. There are a few differences but I'm just saying the species is similar. This is just a personal position, and it was my job to bring it up, but it is TheLieutenant's job to say whether or not it's similar, and if they say it's not, then I apologize. However, I find this design very close, and that's why I brought it up. Art theft is very common, and I'm trying to prevent it. I'm sorry I came off as rude- again, I didn't mean to.
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"I don't feel like I commented rudely at all?"
You were pretty rude, not going to lie. Blatantly commenting on someone's artwork pointing false accusations and demands is considered rude.
"Their traits that are similar are not only the nature themes or the quadruped build, but the antlers, the bushy chest/neck fur, and look at the tails as well. Even the little rump details."
Those are not antlers. Those are sticks growing out of them. Also, I've seen more than one species having any form of bush on them, especially for "fur." The rump details. I just see absolutely no similarities there. The styles are even different. All I see is the build and theme, nothing remotely else.
"This is just a personal position, and it was my job to bring it up, but it is TheLieutenant's job to say whether or not it's similar, and if they say it's not, then I apologize."
This thinking alone is good enough to let yourself know not to comment here and instead note. I'm sure Lieutenant won't find these two to be similar at all. Next time I'd just note Lieutenant.
"Art theft is very common, and I'm trying to prevent it."
I'm glad to see people sticking up for others. But when it comes to this much stark difference, I'd rethink simply pointing fingers. I didn't even know Lieutenant's species existed, for one, and I know these two didn't either. It was coincidence. But I wouldn't call it that really because, again, they look barely anything alike.
Are you aware of Lucky chimes? Burrdog made this species and it turned out someone had made something highly similar before them. Burrdog had no idea of their existence, however. There's a perfectly good example of similar species happening without copying.
"I do not want these selling, if the species is deemed similar, because then the people who bought them will have to be refunded and it'd all just be a very big mess. "
I couldn't help but read this line of gold as well. I really doubt this will turn into a huge mess LOL ='D
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I'm sorry that your opinions don't match with mine. As for your last ignorant comment, I personally wouldn't want someone suggesting a possible species similarity, and then a bunch of people commenting and flaming the suggestor. For that reason, this is the last time I'll reply to you on this deviation.
Perhaps! You should send me a note instead!
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