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xerobebop In reply to PorcelainPoet [2006-11-27 00:45:48 +0000 UTC]

If you don't agree with him, you're obviously a Commie.

Fuckin' Commie.

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PorcelainPoet In reply to xerobebop [2006-11-27 00:51:29 +0000 UTC]

by the way you live in a red state, I live in a blue state... speak for yourself.

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xerobebop In reply to PorcelainPoet [2006-12-02 03:35:23 +0000 UTC]

I was being dry.

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PorcelainPoet In reply to xerobebop [2006-11-27 00:49:57 +0000 UTC]

okay except for look at this:

com‧mu‧nist 
–noun
1. (initial capital letter) a member of the Communist party or movement.
2. an advocate of communism.
3. a person who is regarded as supporting politically leftist or subversive causes.
4. (usually initial capital letter) a Communard.
–adjective
5. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Communist party or to Communism.
6. pertaining to communists or communism.



lib‧er‧al 
–adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.
10. given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
–noun
14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, smart one.

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Sonicm In reply to AJTalon [2006-10-06 03:39:51 +0000 UTC]

Are you honestly saying that you believe that it's a fight for freedom?
Please, die.

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AJTalon In reply to Sonicm [2006-10-06 04:45:08 +0000 UTC]

You first, commie.

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Berhane-Negus In reply to AJTalon [2006-12-17 18:33:08 +0000 UTC]

So disagreeing with the Right wing and seeing this as a war for oil and personal vendetta, which there is ample evidence to show, makes this person a Communist?

And even if someone is a Communist, so what? I'm not saying you have to agree with them, but it simply means that they think that one form of government would work better than the one we have now. Most Communists or studiers of Communism, perticularly that I know, aren't trying to subjegate the United States government.

And in theory, Communism really isn't bad: Its basis is that there is no ruling class, every does a fair share of work and recieves their fair share of pay, everyone has equal opportunities and there is no state religion. Now I'm not saying it manifests itself that way in practice; look at Stalin or Kim Jong Il. I'm simply saying that the ideas of Communism are not nearly as alien as we make them out to be.

Furthermore, every form of government has some form of ruling class, whether its an 'offiicial' ruling class or whether its a gap between two classes, the United States included. Money talks. Look at the corruption in big business - sure, those CEO's are being punished, but one could argue that they're getting better treatment than the average citizen because of their wealth and their close ties to the government. It doesn't make us a horrible country, it just makes us Human, and that's my point. We're as human and as flawed as any other nation. Perhaps not in all the same ways or to the same degree, but it's there.

I'm not a supporter of any form of government or nation myself. I'm neutral and I believe in people before politics. I'm an American and I'm neither patriotic nor anti-American. I acknowledge the need for government and respect that, but I don't choose to support any party. I'm a Christian myself and I respect all religions, cultures, classes, political viewpoints, sexual prefferences, and both genders. I believe in equality for all people.

Best regards.

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random-anomaly In reply to Berhane-Negus [2011-01-10 05:25:36 +0000 UTC]

lolololololol

well constructed arguments don't belong on teh interwebz.

Anyways, I think this pic rocks, and I'm pro-America. Yeah, we're gonna free the shit out of you, so buckle down and grease your little Talibastic cornholes. Here comes freedom, baby, ready or not

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xerobebop In reply to AJTalon [2006-11-27 00:45:22 +0000 UTC]

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You're dense.

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AJTalon In reply to xerobebop [2006-11-28 02:33:25 +0000 UTC]

90 percent of all anti-American and anti-Iraq War demonstrations in the last ten years have been funded or organized by communist/socialist/marxist interests, groups, and advocates. Given the material in this piece, there is definitely a 90 percent chance you have been getting your information from, or are in fact a communist sympathizer in some aspect. Yes, I'm so dense that I'm seeing a pattern that does not bode well for the free world by putting together a puzzle of logical but virulently denied and lied about facts.

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xerobebop In reply to AJTalon [2006-12-02 03:38:10 +0000 UTC]

That's the most fabricated bullshit I've heard all my life.
Plus, flag-hugger, your country is not a democracy. Communism, would work MUCH better than this governemt if both were without corruption.

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AJTalon In reply to xerobebop [2006-12-02 05:47:45 +0000 UTC]

You're right. It's not. It's a democratic-republic.

Communism would work better.... BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

Communism works just fine if you don't want progress! Or freedom! Or a strong economy! The only reason the US is the richest and most powerful nation on this PLANET is because capitalism encourages people to invest in good ideas, make money on their own terms, and by creating better products improves the lives of the majority of the population. Of course, you are free to your opinion, no matter how stupid or ignorant it may be. That's why I love America, and people die for America, to ensure that you get to insult the government without fear of reprisal. So yes, by all means sit on your high horse-It's your right. Of course, it doesn't nessecarily MAKE it truly right, but whatever.

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xerobebop In reply to AJTalon [2006-12-03 01:47:12 +0000 UTC]

I am ashamed to live in a country that abuses that power.
I'll leave once I can.

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AJTalon In reply to xerobebop [2006-12-03 02:39:50 +0000 UTC]

No you won't. Because you're a coward. You know how good you have it here compared to other countries but you refuse to believe the truth right in front of you. So you stay, to be protected by the same government and people you ridicule and demonize. Yeah, bet that makes you feel all self-righteous and honorable, right?

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xerobebop In reply to AJTalon [2006-12-03 19:19:56 +0000 UTC]

Let's move to Russia, babe. Or Germany. Maybe the UK?

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AJTalon In reply to xerobebop [2006-12-03 22:20:17 +0000 UTC]

The UK will soon be under Sharia law if the government over there doesn't do something about the radical Muslims taking over. Russia's Eastern Orthodox Church is stamping out all other religions and Putin's allowing it. And Germany, like most of Europe save Denmark, will soon be ruled by Muslim Sharia law, given that they aren't curbing the immigration and their birthrates are so low they will soon be extinct.

But by all means, leave this "oppressive" nation and go live somewhere even worse if you feel like it. I'm not stopping you. You don't have to listen to a single word I've said, and I know you haven't. You're just a pawn, a trapped mind who refuses to see the truth. So in reality, I've just been wasting my breath on another victim, another willing slave. Again, all my opinion. You don't have to listen or agree in the slightest.

However, think for just one moment. Just one. What if I'm telling the truth? What if what I say, what I know, is the truth? I have considered that what you said is the truth. I have considered that the US has made mistakes, has done horrible things in it's past, and I do not refute that. I have also considered that what we have done pales in comparision to the evils committed by other nations, other peoples, over the years. We are not perfect, we never will be, but most of our actions have been in the belief that things can get better, and there are such things as a better way to live, despite the problems that emerge with those ways. So while we should remain conscious and never forget our mistakes and crimes, we should not forget the enormous good we have done at the same time. Simply declaring the US evil in it's entirety is like saying Hitler was a good man because while he slaughtered 6 million people for his twisted beliefs, he loved animals and was a vegetarian.

Do not let evil outweight good if there is more good than evil. Do not let guilt and arrogance blind you to the truth that the principles of freedom, liberty, and democracy are not worth fighting for. And don't let that same evil twist your thoughts into supporting evil disguised as good.

Again though, you don't have to listen to anything I say. You can dismiss me as some right-wing nut and continue to stay ignorant. I do not ask you to give up your beliefs, but I do ask you to examine them. If they hold up to examination, then they are valid and worth fighting for. If not... You change them, or continue to hold up a lie. Which makes you no better than what you believe America has done.

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xerobebop In reply to AJTalon [2006-12-08 00:15:19 +0000 UTC]

Okay, so the US REFUSED Jewish immigrants during the holocaust. We were the only allied country to do so.
The founding of the United States involved mass slaughter of the native Americans, on a MASSIVE scale.
Trail of Tears. 'Nuff said.
Black slavery. 'Nuff said.
How about during the Red Scare, when the government would execute totally nonviolent anarchists and communists because the government claimed they were plotting the downfall of democracy?
Your fear of Muslim rule is unfounded. The percentage of people in the Middle East that believe it's okay to kill one's self as long as you kill non-believers is very high, but the percentage of people willing to do so is not. What you have now is what Americans like you had during the Red Scare: an unfounded fear of people with different beliefs than yourself. I take that back. It's founded, because the good ol' USG says it's founded (the US Government DID found it themselves, so they'd know.)

Well, I guess if you're not a Christian Republican American, you're just as bad as OBL... or the Pope. Right?

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xerobebop In reply to xerobebop [2006-12-11 02:17:20 +0000 UTC]

"mindless drone"

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AJTalon In reply to xerobebop [2006-12-08 01:57:04 +0000 UTC]

Yes, we did, and it was a terrible mistake to make. But if you want to blast the US so much, why don't you blast the Nazis, the Soviets, and the Arab Muslims for THEIR crimes against the Jews?

We didn't kill every Native American, and we didn't force them all off their lands. Many refused to assimilate into our culture, and so we gave them reservations so they could continue their way of life. The Trail of Tears was regetable and tragic, and I do not apologize for it. Slavery, too, I do not apologize for. The thing is, we have apologized to the Native Americans, we have reimbursed them, and we set the slaves free and gave them equal rights long ago. If you want to guilt-trip and angst over our sins that's fine. But we paid for those sins, we did the right thing, and we are a better nation for it.

Speaking of slavery, I suppose you wouldn't care to know that the Arab Muslims practiced Black slavery first, well before the Europeans ever did, and still continue it to this day.

And no-one who was a non-violent anarchist or communist was executed during the Red Scare. I suggest you look up the Venona Program. It'll shed some light on the "innocence" of those accused.

Ultimately, you and everyone who thinks like you are fools for magnifying the US's sins, which are in comparision to most other nations in history slight, while completely IGNORING the atrocities committed by other nations and peoples. You also IGNORE the good this nation has done in favor of your own political agenda. Out of ignorance, out of power-hunger, who knows. All I know is that you are free to your beliefs, and you won't change them. So why do I even bother talking to a mindless drone like you? Enjoy your hatred of freedom. You'll see what it gives you in the end.

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