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Published: 2008-03-31 05:49:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 3135; Favourites: 16; Downloads: 0
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Update: Since I have a scanner now I switched the photo of the drawing to a much clearer scanned version.The old Swedish translation of LotR is known for its many mistakes. Åke Ohlmarks, as the translator was called, even managed to irritate Tolkien quite a bit
Anyway, if Ohlmarks happened upon something he didn't understand, he usually just made up stuff... Which can be hilarious at some places
Tolkien: "So old that almost I feel young again, as I have not felt since I journeyed with you children."
...got translated into:
Ohlmarks: "Så gammal att jag nästan känner mig som ung igen, och det har jag inte gjort sen jag var ute på färd med mina barn."
...which translates "you" to "my". He probably forgot that Legolas is a lot older than Aragorn and Gimli, which explains why he calls them children this time. Instead Ohlmarks thinks that Tolkien wrote "you" by mistake and changed it, so most people in Sweden thought that Legolas had kids that he had been traveling with earlier...
My other translation illustration:
Wikipedia has funny reading: [link] [link]
This place too (Lord of Errors): [link]
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Fail...
Sorry for the boldtyping.. I managed to hit some button on the board and now I can't undo it..
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I have read that the reason he changed "hobbits" to "hober" was because he thought that people would think "hobbit" sounded too much like "sockerbit"
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Seriously? 
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Lots of people held him in high esteem for some reason (that's why there wasn't any new translations until he was dead). Even though he later wrote a book (and for some reason was allowed to have it published) that was very mean and kind of insane. It's called Tolkien och den svarta magin, or something similar. Quite freaky
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That's odd... 
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lol I remember reading this part and it made me think of your picture here!
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Poor Legolas and his cute little children
Its a beautiflul and very detailed drawing though, of this accidental little family
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Thanks!
The reason why Gandalf isn't detailed like the rest is because he wasn't a part of the drawing. I doodled him on the side of the paper before I did the Legolas's Children pic and when I started on the background for Legolas it sort of grew around Gandalf too, and suddenly he had a reason for laughing
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Good things tend to come by as accidents, or just to appear by themselves.
This picture wouldn't be at all, as good without Gandalf, it is his reaction towards "Legolas's family", that turns this picture into a dramatic scene of happenings.
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Good thing Gandalf got swallowed by the picture then!
Yes, often when you have an idea it might start to turn into something completely different. Then you just have to decide if you want to let it, or if you still want to follow your idea. I usually do both if it's possible 
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Aww! your picture ate poor Gandalf, 
(well he is a wizard, so he will survive spending some time in the stomach of a picture, he might even find it interesting to study a drawing from the inside, you'll never know)
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Since he turned white after that balrog incident, maybe he'll turn pink after the picture incident?
Mmm... Gandalf cake... I wonder if it has whipped cream and strawberries
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Aw, a pink Gandalf would be so cute! 
I don't think I would like to eat a Gandalf Cake thought, but on the other hand a Gandalf Cake would make for a great new picture of yours, wouldn't it?
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Gandalf Caaake!
Might be a bit old and stale
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This makes me laugh! Aragorn and Gimli being Legolas's kids...
Don't let go of your father's hands, kids, you might get lost!
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Sometimes a bad translator can be a good thing! It means you've got lots of stuff to poke fun at
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Yes it is!
Especially with Google translator...that's just ugh. People translate (somewhat) better.
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OMG, this is so hilarious... I just started reading the links... This guy is "epic"...
Did you ever get a "proper" translation??
P.S. Like the drawing...
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Yes, we recently got a new translation (finally!), but they waited until long after the old translator died. Maybe they didn't want to make him angry since he was a crazy person
Well, at least one good thing came from the old translation: There's lot's of funny stuff written about it
And thank you for the fav!
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Np...
Honesty I feel sorry for people who had to read that(If I'm not mistaken it turns out that Merry killed the Witch King!?)
Right now I'm very grateful to whoever did "local" translation...
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I don't remember if it was Merry since I don't remember who's who among Merry and Pippin, but I know it was one of them XD
I'm glad I tried reading the original though. Since the old Swedish translation is a lot harder to read than even the english original, I thought the english would be hard since I'm not very good at that language, but it turned out that Tolkien uses really easy english so it was a lot easier to read
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I always like reading the books in their original language (if I know it), because even in the best translation something gets lost... And I love Tolkien's style, it so simple, and yet he manages to tell so much in a few words... No big words...
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Me too. Original version is always best
A pity I couldn't read the original back then 'cause there wasn't a big market for english books (just a shelf or two in one bookstore where I lived. Mostly Stephen King books actually), and there was no internet
Yes, he's very good with words
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When my english was good enough for book reading I already had internet, so never had problem with that. Don't know what would I do without it, 'cause I think that local book-stores had (and still don't have) any books in english...
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Haha, I feel old since I'm from before there was any internet at all
It's good that nowadays you don't have to depend on local shops. Everything can be ordered over the web. My fav bookshop is an internet shop and they can get books from all over the world
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haha xD
älskar gandalf's LOL-face xD
jag gillar ju den gamla översättningen bättre än den nya (för att jag läste den först, antagligen...) men det är alltid kul när man ser sådant här xD fast jag kanske iofs läst en annan än den här översättningen. DUnno :S
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Gandalf är en liten rackare tycker jag
Det är nog Ohlmarks du läst för såvitt jag vet ska det bara finnas två svenska: hans och den nya. Om man inte räknar med den som gjort av en kille på fritiden innan han fick veta att det skulle göras en ny. Han berättade det på ett forum jag läste lite på när de börjat på den nya översättningen. Skulle vilja få kasta ett öga på den
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haha xD Den har jag nog inte läst... måste vara Ohlmark då
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Den är mer lättläst på engelska än på svenska med gamla översättningen. Tolkien brukade i alla fall inte tappa bort sig i meningar och avsluta med en annan mening som Ohlmarks gjorde ibland
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Jag har inte läst SoR men sett filmerna...
- svenska överstättningar är väldigt sällan bra :/
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Nu har de äntligen blivit nyöversatta och han som gjorde jobbet denna gång tog hjälp av en eller två LotR-experter som också hängde på ett forum där fans diskuterade olika översättningar av namn så det skulle bli så nära Tolkiens önskemål som möjligt. Snällt att vara så noga när Tolkien till och med skrivit ner lite hur han ville ha det. Språk var nog ett av hans större intressen efter vad jag förstått
Själv är jag inte så insatt, men jag älskar komiska saker så jag har så klart läst mig till de roligaste felen i gamla översättningen
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hi hi
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Det är därför jag nästan bara läser Discworld-böcker nu för tiden
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Om du inte läst någon av Discworld-böckerna så måste du göra det! Författaren heter Terry Pratchett. Fantasy-böcker med en massa humor
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hm... jag känner igen författaren... det är väl inte han som är så extremt seg -.-' jag vet att min föredetta kompis fick mig att läsa någon bok och det tog mig evigheter att komma igenom den... har du någon länk?
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Så gott som alla Terry Pratchetts böcker är fristående så om du läst nån av dem så kanske du ska testa en annan
Här är en lista på alla böcker i serien: [link]
Om man klickar in på boknamnen så kan man läsa vad de handlar om, men akta dig för det står även hur de slutar
En annan bok som är jättebra är skriven av två av mina favvoförfattare tillsammans. Terry Pratchett och Neil Gaiman: Good Omens
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