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veeronic In reply to ??? [2009-04-19 02:13:24 +0000 UTC]

I'm 19, and I am unsure myself actually, I beleive for well ones like us who want to become completely female are usual trannsexual, and transgender is for those who want to become the opposite gender to a degree; for example a friend of mine though she identifies completely as female actually does like having a penis, me well I'm sure you already understand, oddly me and her actually like eachother quite a bit, hehehe, despite the fact I identify as lesbian

and cross dressing, not in public but at home yeah, and my mom is fine with my being transsexual, actually the term that kinda qualifies for anyone this way is just trans

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-19 02:25:39 +0000 UTC]

OK, thanks! I'm only 14, LOL! I expect to transition sooner than you, then, huh? LOL! I identify as lesbian, too, BTW! I guess I'll be a... lady's lady!

I'mma gonna be gettin' mahself some effeminate clothing this summer or somethin', just so that I'm not behind the 8-ball in that department!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-19 05:54:51 +0000 UTC]

well good luck, good that you want to start so soon, not enough time for male hormones to effect you terribly much, I waited too long so I am a bit masculinized (body hair... so annoying...), but the others on that page give me alot of compliments on my potential for passing, your parents know? and by the way I know that if your in the US at your age you can only get a testosterone blocker, luckily however you may be producing your own estrogen, don't think I am though... it sometimes happens, how much research have you done?

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-19 07:36:12 +0000 UTC]

Pretty some research, actually, I checked Wikipedia AND Google! Ya, I'll probably be passin' with flyin' colors, but I'll be one of those people who's not afraid to tell the world! I'm writing a book that mentions it, actually, but it's not like the whole book's about that! It's more about today's moral corruption. Anyways, when can I start takin' estrogen? And yes, I don't really have body hair!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-19 07:53:07 +0000 UTC]

legaly you should be 18, but as I said testosterone blockers are available to you now,
so you've told your parents already I take it?
but I must say be careful, there are a lot of cruel people out there

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-20 01:46:05 +0000 UTC]

WHUT!? SCREW THE SYSTEM!! I'M NOT FOLLOWING THOSE RULES!!!

I'll ask my mother about them very soon, don't worry!

I know there are...

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-20 03:20:27 +0000 UTC]

so your parents are entirely supportive? if so then that is always good, my mom is alright with it.

I don't know if there is any way to get estrogen at your age though... but I know for a fact you have to be 18 before surgery, sorry... speaking of which do you beleive you need facial surgery or anything like that?

thats one reason I suggest going to that chatroom, some others who are more knowledgable then me, also I beleive there is one your age that comes by every now and then

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-20 03:40:25 +0000 UTC]

Well, I only have my mom now, and she mostly doesn't care.
I wouldn't call it being supportive.

I KNEW THAT YOU COULDN'T GET SRS UNTIL THEN! I MEANT ESTROGEN!
Wowza! You had me worried for a minute!

OK, but I couldn't get connected!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-20 03:51:06 +0000 UTC]

actually I did mean estrogen, however; according to someone I was just speaking to on that page, with parental approval it may be possible

why weren't you able to get connected?
I beleive names can't have spaces in them.

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-20 04:39:34 +0000 UTC]

YAY!

There were no spaces in mah nick, but I think I screwed up the Java thing somehow.

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-20 04:48:42 +0000 UTC]

well I beleive you would be right at home there, hehe, do you know any other transsexuals?

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-20 04:55:55 +0000 UTC]

No, I don't, besides you! I'd like to meet some!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-20 05:07:27 +0000 UTC]

okay um quick questions;
have you looked for any support groups? and where do you live?
any therapy so far?
and I just want to be sure; you do feel that you have to become female to be happy correct?
I ask cuz you really should be certain

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-20 06:06:53 +0000 UTC]

Only Pacific Pride, but the vibe of sitting around with a bunch of older "freaks" was unsettling. My friends are very supportive, though! The girls think it's cool, or something! And now you know I live on the west coast!

I've been takin' therapy for around six months now!

Oh, I'm CERTAIN! I have BIG plans!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-20 06:30:38 +0000 UTC]

ah good, its nice to see others as sure as you (and me for that matter), there are some "confused" individuals I've met, just 2 on that chat though, and so do I; oregon, a few of them from the chat in california, one of them I'm a bit close too actually,
and yeah I know the feel, second youngest person at the group I went to; 9 years older then me, I however was told someone my age would be there but she didn't show that day... I beleive she was actually recovering from surgery that week, which brings me to this; do you have knowledge of the costs? it normaly is around 30,000, in taiiland however; 14,000

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-20 22:47:10 +0000 UTC]

Oregon? That seems like a popular place with my friends, but I don't know why. Maybe I'll go there sometime.

I'm gonna try to make a name for myself early, so that money won't be an issue! I figured, everything's easier when you're working in a team, and since everyone wants to get to the top, that's what I based my team around! That sorta went full circle, but the point is we're in it to win it! I've got illustrators, friends of publishers, a mother with an incoming cash influx! Plus, I LUCKED OUT in body and mind! My frame is REALLY weird for a guy, but... you know what that means! With a good head on my shoulders, nothing could look brighter!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-20 22:57:03 +0000 UTC]

good luck, and thats good, I'm not incredibly feminine looking, but I have slight advantages; no pronounced cranal ridge, wide hips and a barely noticable adam's apple, and I'm damn intelligent, hehe

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-21 00:19:59 +0000 UTC]

I'm intelligent, too, and I've got the curves! Hips and ass! Not as much as I'd like, obviously, but I still lucked out! Plus, my face is nice and feminine!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-21 02:59:07 +0000 UTC]

good, I have the potential at least, just need hormones... speaking of which it takes 3 months of counseling before you can get the recomendation for them, just need 1, surgery you need 2 recomendaation and must be living fulltime for at least a year before hand, but judging by how you describe your figure I don't beleive passing will be a problem for you, any pics?

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-21 03:10:02 +0000 UTC]

Ya, I'll have no problem with the recommendations, I'm just REALLY nervous about asking Mother!

And I'm not showing pics to total strangers!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-21 04:01:53 +0000 UTC]

oh okay, thats fine, I'd feel the same way...
yes that is what gets to me lately...
well... gage what you think she'll say by how she reacted when you first told her

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-21 04:24:49 +0000 UTC]

I just asked her somehow. She's doing "research".

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-21 06:40:26 +0000 UTC]

wow, think your more gutsy then me... hehe, thats good, I had to do my own research honestly... no internet at home, thank god no teacher ever got suspicous hehe, "that would go over oh so well...." well mom already knew at that time... but still, though be sure the info is accurate... got one that was entirely WRONG! 8,000 for vaginoplasty? yeah right!

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-21 06:45:13 +0000 UTC]

I hope this goes well for me! I wanna transition as soon as possible!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-21 08:06:11 +0000 UTC]

I wish you the best, its going to be july before I can... my sittuation is a bit different... I'm handicaped, beckers muscular dystrophy (a gradual deterioration of muscle tissue), I'm on a steroid med that potentially poses a slight problem so until my medicare coverage is official on july 1st my mom does not want me to start hormones til then in case something goes wrong, but I agree with her, so I'll get the recomendation in the mean time, hopefully the counselor I found works on a sliding scale

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-21 22:49:35 +0000 UTC]

Awww...
I'd hate to be disabled as well!
That sounds rough!
Good luck to ya!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-22 00:50:24 +0000 UTC]

its alright, as long as I can move enough to use the bathroom on my own, I'm alright, by the way; may want to go to that chat sometime today; I noticed the name of the one in there whose your age, she's not there much as I hear

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-22 01:54:59 +0000 UTC]

What's her nick?

And I don't use public restrooms cuz of that...

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-22 02:25:10 +0000 UTC]

unfortionately she's not in it at the moment but; sami, and what did I say that caused your restroom comment? I forgot for some reason...

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-22 02:31:34 +0000 UTC]

Something about still being able to go to the bathroom alone.

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-22 05:55:47 +0000 UTC]

oh! I get it, hehe, not sure if you got my meaning... its as long as I have enough mobility that I would not need help, yeah...

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-23 01:09:48 +0000 UTC]

WHUT!? You have limited mobility!?

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-23 01:31:22 +0000 UTC]

handicap remember

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-23 02:10:49 +0000 UTC]

Ya, but you said muscle something, I didn't think...

DAMN, YOU HAVE IT REALLY BAD!!!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-23 03:06:28 +0000 UTC]

thought it was implied, I can deal with it, being a guy is what I can't deal with, heh, and now I am wondering just how the hell sami is able to be taking hormones so far without her mom finding out she is trans... yeah I was surprised too...

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-23 03:37:30 +0000 UTC]

I'M REALLY SORRY! I HOPE THINGS WORK OUT FOR YOU! AND YOU AREN'T A GUY, REMEMBER!

How old is Sami again?

I still can't get on that chat, I'll try again.

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-23 03:56:41 +0000 UTC]

thank you
hm... wonder why its not letting you...
she is 14
what exactly happens when you go to the chat and enter your name?

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-23 04:01:40 +0000 UTC]

Wait, I don't have an IRC client, LOL!

I wonder how I would've turned out if I had started out as a girl. Probably a normal, selfish, unintelligent person.

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-23 04:32:14 +0000 UTC]

yeah, same here, so in the end I guess we should be grateful heh heh, once its all fixed, glad I am this smart, it does seem to be a side effect; average normal person; 100 iq, us; 140 iq

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-23 04:46:32 +0000 UTC]

That's probably a real statistic, not that it would've been tested. Ya, I guess it's for the GREATER good, but maybe not exactly OUR OWN good. Or, IS the greater good the same as our own good? Hmmm... In any case, once it's all fixed, the greater good will be FAR from MY mind!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-24 07:03:21 +0000 UTC]

yeah being normal certainly would be boring, hehehe
can't be sure, either way, must be some point heh

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-24 23:34:16 +0000 UTC]

Hehe, ya, I'd be bored!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-26 03:32:21 +0000 UTC]

yep, hehe, its good to be weirdos, lol,
also to get me to concentrate on homework I don't think I'll be on the chat today, maybe really later, but not sure

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-26 06:38:01 +0000 UTC]

It's OK, I wasn't on either! I went to the fair, and it was one of the funnest times of my life!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-26 07:21:45 +0000 UTC]

awww, sounds like it, hehe
and I just finished one class worth of homework, probably would have had it done an hour ago but my computer's cord came undone, grrr, it always does that, heh

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-26 16:42:05 +0000 UTC]

Awww, I'm sorry about your cord!

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-26 22:47:38 +0000 UTC]

well it doesn't happen all the time... just at the worst possible times, lol

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-26 22:49:26 +0000 UTC]

Ya, that just happened to me! My gf was about to dump me over something I'm not, and then the Internet went kaput!

Speaking of things that aren't my fault, I think I'm about to get punished over something I didn't say! And when I say punished, I don't mean grounded or anything! D:

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veeronic In reply to Tay--Tay [2009-04-27 04:46:47 +0000 UTC]

if she really does care about you then she won't listen to that bs, the thought of anyone actually doing such a thing is entirely idiotic

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Tay--Tay In reply to veeronic [2009-04-27 06:03:29 +0000 UTC]

She's forgiving me...

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