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Published: 2017-03-08 03:49:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 6612; Favourites: 104; Downloads: 0
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Here are the forces of the New Path's State Security, who will make times VERY difficult for the Sweeney...so say nothing of other activities they will be part of...Related content
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pattontank12 In reply to ??? [2017-03-08 14:43:05 +0000 UTC]
Yeah soundwave3591 really needs to curtail the tech advantage of the NP or have it so their not the only ones with advanced tech. Also get rid of the Aura disrupter rifles, their already way to OP.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to pattontank12 [2017-03-08 14:55:04 +0000 UTC]
Atlas already had a machine that could RIP PEOPLES AURA OUT OF THEIR BODIES. And that was a good 20 years before these guys came on the scene. A mechanism that detects, replicates and disrupts a persons aura is a natural extension of that preexisting technology, given that those three systems would already need to exist in order for the Aura transfer machine to work.
And its not like every NP solder has them: the Pathfinders use regular guns, as do the Atlas army.
In terms of other nations teching up, Mistral, by reverse-engineering Atlas tech, is becoming a military powerhouse in their own right.
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pattontank12 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2017-03-11 17:06:57 +0000 UTC]
For now anyways how long until the pathfinders and the Atlas military starts issuing their own aura disruptor rifles and multiple over shields in masses.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to pattontank12 [2017-03-11 17:26:21 +0000 UTC]
why didn't the germans issue the STG44 and the King Tiger in masses? same reason: resources.
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pattontank12 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2017-03-11 20:00:09 +0000 UTC]
Nazi Germany had only developed the STG44 and King Tiger by the time they were depleted and were being swarmed on all sides. Here they've already developed the over shields and the aura disruptors well before the second great war started.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to pattontank12 [2017-03-12 05:12:27 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but he's also trying to rebuild and reequip an army and navy that were both gutted by post-Grimm incursion downscaling and an economic depression that decimated the industrial sector. Hence why, as I state on my NP weapons sheet, a lot of Great-War era weapons have to be used.
After all, even before the STG the Germans still could have equipped with an automatic rifle,as the US and Soviet armies possessed. But they went with the KAR98, a design dating back to before WWI, because the infrastructure was already in place to make it. Same for the Japanese.
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pattontank12 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2017-03-13 04:48:08 +0000 UTC]
Don't forget the Germans also developed the MP-38/40 during that time. It may have still been just a SMG but it was revolutionary and set a standard for SMG since then. Who's to say Butler and the NP aren't going to try and develop ways to produce the Aura disrupting that are faster, cheaper, easier, less resource demanding and efficient.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to pattontank12 [2017-03-13 14:41:04 +0000 UTC]
they developed a revolutionary weapon, yes, but Hollywood has overblown it's deployment: for every one German with an MP40, there were something like 30 with the old Kar98k rifle. German manufacturing was never up to the scale that the US was. Submachinegun production never matched demand: even Germany's copy of the Sten gun, a gun so simple resistance forces were able to build them from scrap metal, was never produced in numbers.
the only way the Germans were even able to maintain rifle production was by taking over the arsenals of the occupied countries, many of which were producing copies or license-built models of the Kar98k. and even THEN it was not uncommon to find German troops equipped with Russian, French, or Italian rifles.
so, as i said, it's a matter of resources, and the need to equip the most troops in the shortest amount of time. The standard Atlas assault rifle is well-known and commonplace, both to the old veterans and the new recruits: by contrast, the "Scrambler" rifles are very VERY new, and only the Pathmaker guards (who number less than 10,000 men) are equipped with them.
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pattontank12 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2017-03-13 16:00:45 +0000 UTC]
Well isn't Atlas Remnant's leading industrial power, with control of vast resource deposits and that's before they've taken over vacou and it's vast dust deposits. Also don't forget they can produce far more than Germany could with automated manufacturing.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to pattontank12 [2017-03-13 16:52:49 +0000 UTC]
it WAS. Past tense. a War where the city has been devastated and a shattering economic depression that shuts down the factories for years will obviously reduce that capacity. It loses the Vacuo resources in their entirety (go read my "organization logos" descriptions) and Schnee Dust effectively ceases to exist, meaning there's a lot of competition, an ineffective government, and no regulation or oversight.
and, come on, man. if a new technology, based on pre-existing tech or not, were easy to mass-produce, every American soldier would have had an STG-44 copy within weeks of us learning of their existence. And we knew as early as 1942 that the Sherman was no match for heavier German tanks, yet we produced it through the end of the war, to the deficit of Heavier, more effective designs. the same can be said for the British: Necessity demanded they produce obviously obsolescent designs like the Churchill and Valentine tanks simply to keep themselves in the fight.
Simpler is better. a functioning army would rather have a simple, effective weapon to churn out by the thousands over a more advanced weapon that, while it might be more effective, will take time and effort to develop. See the Sten Gun or the M3 "grease gun." the Thompson was a more robust weapon than either, but took more time and resources to produce, and so was replaced, and that was AFTER it had been simplified for wartime production.
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pattontank12 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2017-03-08 19:24:29 +0000 UTC]
Still aren't you forgetting the big old giant magnet that can drop meteors down on whoever Butler chooses. What's to stop Butler from simply go f#ck it and just blow up everything that opposes him, if the NP starts loosing.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to pattontank12 [2017-03-08 19:59:31 +0000 UTC]
The MBE isn't PRECISE, for one thing, and to hit Shade (and that was not a direct hit, mind) it took almost 2 weeks of calculations and energy use, as well as a barrage of missiles to ensure the meteor didn't wipe out the whole planet.
not to mention that the one person who knows the thing inside and out (and thus knows exactly where to break it) is an emotionally scarred 17-year-old boy who is starting to realize hey, these guys are kinda nuts....
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Soundwave3591 In reply to bruiser128 [2017-03-08 20:02:13 +0000 UTC]
just wait until you see their commanders....
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bruiser128 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2017-03-09 14:52:36 +0000 UTC]
Also I want to say you have been tagged. But it's up to you whether or not you want to answer the questions.
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bruiser128 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2017-03-09 02:19:33 +0000 UTC]
I was actually thinking of the combat instructors making
the P Guards look like neutered puppies in comparison since
they trained them into their image of the ideal elite guard.
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Ohioguy [2017-03-08 03:53:48 +0000 UTC]
It's funny, remember the "Surveyors" I mentioned in the Arthur Arc Bio? This is exactly how I envisioned them.
Mordred would have been under Rosenholz and Renard in terms of command structure, but he was pretty much the Thrawn of the security forces. It may not show, but he is actually quite the piece of work. He also may or may not be an agent of a certain grimm-controlling witch...
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