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Description My second attempt! I actually did this a week ago or something, but i didn't have time to put it up because of lan parties and the recovery, which i am done with now finally -w-

So here is my second attempt as said! This time i focused more on contrast and highlight. I like how it turned out, but i know it can been better.. i just need to add the tiny tiny extras.. So if you have any recommendations, feel free to share!

And background! I will try to add something more exciting bg next time, but i don't want it to be more in focus than the main object. So i need some help there as well, but i will try out some ideas i have in mind!
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Spaceys-Archives In reply to ??? [2014-04-23 12:38:07 +0000 UTC]

I will try that indeed! I think i also should use more layers when doing this, because i did the whole dragon in one layer xD
But thanks for the advise!

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SgtGryph In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-23 20:13:08 +0000 UTC]

actually I would try to stay on 1 layer. here is why: 1 the more layers you have the more memory it will use. 2 you will end up merging allot when you try to smudge one area with another. 
 I would only use a separate layer if your experimenting and dont want to risk messing up something you dont want to change. if you watch the layer management I use when I did the rose I only worked on another layer when I had areas I didnt want to mess up or wanted to work on things that were not at the same layer like when something was behind something else but ended up merging all before working the final details.

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to SgtGryph [2014-04-23 21:50:35 +0000 UTC]

You have a very good point there.. Because i noticed sometimes for example when i did the wings that the smudge tool like dragging the painting a little bit to much, so i often had to redo the movements. But i will practice more using one layer! But ill add layers for backgrounds and such tho. The only thing i don't like is if a layer behind my main one crosses it. And then i have to use my rubber sometimes to remove  the edges.. It often leaves some space between the objects which is very annoying. But it rarely happens, so np!

No idea if any of that made sense.. but i blame the time z.z

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SgtGryph In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-25 00:18:19 +0000 UTC]

I think Im following you there. try this:
 if the tool is dragging the area your working on too much try letting up on the intensity setting for the tool a bit. it takes some fiddling but its easier to remember the settings affect the pixels like this; if your trying to do blending set the brush so it is lighter or affects it very little. If your making the initial broad shaping strokes the heavier the brush setting the more it will effect the area. there are tons of subtle settings in between that after you master of this method it will make the work so much easier. just remember if your low on memory the size of te brush will create lag much quicker than the intensity of the area being worked but at the same time the heavier the brush is that will generate lag too. there is a fine balance that you'll have to hit to keep your flow efficient but will keep you from sitting and waiting for the lag to pass it just depends on the system and how much it can handle as it will change for each system respectively.  just keep practicing. took me along time to nail all the little tricks down but now its my primary method of drawing just because I find it so much more efficient than any other. but that personal preference XD 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to SgtGryph [2014-04-25 15:46:29 +0000 UTC]

Yeah that is what i meant! I didn't experiment enough with the settings and that might be why. (You see, in my head i love finding settings that i can use throughout the whole drawing.. Which sometimes keeps me away from experimenting :I) So instead of using only 70% strength next time i will try different ones! And i think i will stick with the small pictures for now until i maybe one day gets a stronger laptop to work on :3

But two more questions.. Should i use a sketch to begin with? Or is it best to let your mind work for you? (Didn't use a sketch on this one, and i noticed that you didn't do that either x3)
And do you have any recommendations when it comes to settings for the brush? One heavy brush and one light? I like having some main options that i can use, and then just change it from there you see!

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SgtGryph In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-26 01:15:44 +0000 UTC]

For me I tend to hang around these settings on my system: 15 to 30 percent for light blending, 40 to 60 percent for mid level shaping/sculpting and shading, 68 to 88 percent for fast sketchy roughs. never anything bigger than 50 to 170 pixels brush size and multiple brush tips of my own making for specialized stuff like hair. I'm running 32Gb system ram on a 680m nvidia 64 bit OS core i7 so these settings may be a bit high for yours

should you use a sketch? depends on if your comfortable with out one. in Thirsty I didn't but I drew it many years ago once in graphite so I was very comfortable without a sketch. if you watch the other videos you'll see I do start with very very rough sketches for images Im experimenting with. sometimes its just fun to sit an let the image tell you what it wants to be with this method others its good to have a structured idea of where you want to go with it. all about what you feel works for what your working on
 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to SgtGryph [2014-04-26 19:33:11 +0000 UTC]

Ahh! Thank's a bunch! It feels good to know circa where to put the percent level while working -w-
Well.. My main computer isn't the problem, i have 16gb ram, 770 Nvidia 64 bit and quad i7 myself.. But my legal copy of photoshop is on my school mac.. which.. Well.. Let's just say that ¨Møkk¨ means shit in my language, and that is its nickname xD Hopefully i'll get a stronger working computer in the future, but i'll just have to survive with this for now!

Then i will try with some rough sketches next time! Its very fun to experiment and play around with your mind and imagination, but its also very chaotic. I will also try with color sometime! Yesterday i experienced the glorious moment of realization when i drew a another drawing with only colors and ¨reflection¨ on water. So i am very hyped to play around with more colors! Even tho it was the simplest RGB settings you can imagine xD

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Rexiehh [2014-04-22 10:35:08 +0000 UTC]

Whoa it looks really cool! I love how you did the textures on the wings :3 though it looks a little too low on its body
NEXT TIME A BIGGER FIRE! 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-22 10:57:37 +0000 UTC]

Thankies!! I had to much fun doing them you have no idea -w- Eventho it takes forever to use the smudge tool, in the end its worth the effort :3
But low on the body? Like, more light? Or bigger body? :I
OH IT WILL BE!! GOTTA BURN THY EARTH!!!

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-22 11:18:55 +0000 UTC]

Hahahaa thats good!
From what i see , the bone connecting wing to the body looks like it would be near the dragon's back leg if it had legs xD get what i mean? Make bigger wings! Spread out the wings! :3 

DONT BURN ME THOUGH!

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-22 11:25:17 +0000 UTC]

... I have no idea.. why i didn't notice that <.< >.> 
But you have a good point there, next time i will spread the wings even more! I will also try to add some depth to it, for example that the wing points towards the screen or something, we'll see :3

IT WILL BURN EVERYTHIN! MUAHAHA >;D

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-22 11:39:29 +0000 UTC]

Well now u noticed c: thanks to me hehehe
haha like a different pose? :b remember to add more fire!

IF U BURN ME ILL PUT OUT UR DRAGON WITH WATER!

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-22 13:39:49 +0000 UTC]

Yupps! So thankies to ya! :3
And yeah probably, its very hard to illustrate anything with smudge because i can't use guide/help lines, that's why its so hard o.o

AND I WILL ADD MORE FIRE!! WHICH YOU CAN'T STOP WITH WATER CUZ IMMA WATER DRAGON >

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-22 13:59:13 +0000 UTC]

Couldnt you just make a guideline layer and put it at a low opacity? :u 

THATS NOT FAIR YOU CANT BREATH FIRE IF YOU ARE A WATER DRAGON! 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-22 14:22:15 +0000 UTC]

Mmm.. Nnngmm Hnnnng... Maybe i could...... :I

WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? SPIT WATER AND RUN AWAY??? >:V

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-22 15:33:01 +0000 UTC]

You should! It will be easier for you! :3

YES! THATS THE DRAGON RULE!  

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-22 16:03:10 +0000 UTC]

I will defiantly try it next time! c:

BUT.. BUT.. THAT IS SO UNDER POWERED ;_;

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-23 08:00:50 +0000 UTC]

Good boy :3 

WELL THATS THE POWERS YOU DESERVE! 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-23 08:39:08 +0000 UTC]

*pats my own head* -w-

WELL.. NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.. ITS NOT THAT BAD!!  I CAN DROWN PEOPLE! OR SCARE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRAID OF WATER! HUE 8D

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-23 12:07:49 +0000 UTC]

*pats your face* ( here we go again! ) 

LOL YOU ARE AN MONSTER! THINKING OF KILLING PEOPLE WHEN U HAVE POWERS  

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-23 12:34:02 +0000 UTC]

*pats your pat.. pat.. mailman.. pat <.<*

I DON'T DO THAT! I JUST WANTED TO COOK MY BURGERS AND OTHER MEATY STUFF WITH MY FLAMES! I CAN'T DO THAT WITH WATER D:

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-23 15:02:30 +0000 UTC]

You mean postman pat? xD *pat ya belly * 

NO YOU DIDNT! U WANTED TO BURN THE WORLD! ITS SAFER IF U HAS NO POWERS! >;C 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-23 15:32:09 +0000 UTC]

So it is Postman pat! I knew it!! :I *pats yar leg*

I JUST WANTED MAH BURGARS ;-; *SHOOTS A WATER BEAM*

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-24 07:15:30 +0000 UTC]

LOL mailman pat haha *pats ya back * 

HMM I KNOW THE PERFECT PLPACE FOR YOU! ITS THE KRUSTY KRABS!
THEY HAVE UNDERWATER BURGERS!  

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-24 08:11:22 +0000 UTC]

Mailman *pat* mail an *pat* with his black and white *pat* .... *sheigs and pats your shoulder*

MY GODS YES!!! I WILL LIVE NEXT TO THAT PLACE AND LIVE ON THEIR BURGARS ;w;
YOU SHOULD MOVE TO ITALY FOR THE SAKE OF MEATBALLS!

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-24 12:32:44 +0000 UTC]

SEA MONSTER, SEA MONSTER, SEA MONSTER AND HIS SMELLY BREATH! *pats your arms*

YES! U SHOULD LIVE WITH THAT GUY WHOS HOUSE IS A PINEAPPLE! NAH I WANT SWEDISH MEATBALLS! NOT ITALIAN

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-24 13:20:22 +0000 UTC]

LAND CRAB MAN, LAND CRAB FAN! LAND CRAB MEAT AND HIS FURRY HANDS! *PATS HAND*

I AM THE GUY WHO LIVE IN A PINAPLLR! *sponge face E8*
BUT WHY? YOU CAN BUY THOSE ON IKEA, BUT THEY TASTE LIKE RAINBOW DIRT.. WHICH IS VERY BAD!

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-24 13:33:53 +0000 UTC]

LAND CRAB MAN?? LOL *PATS CHEEKS* 

SPONGEBOB SQUARE DRAGON! GET BACK TO WORK! 
NO THEY DONT TASTE BAD! THEY TASTE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD 
1 HOTDOGS ,1  ICE CREAM AND 1 DRINK FOR ONLY $2!!!!

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-24 13:55:56 +0000 UTC]

YESH!!! PATCRABMAN! *PATS FOREHEAD* (This is a good way to push/ test my english skills! Wooh! xD)

OKAY! ONE TOXIC CRISPY CRAB COMMING UP!
Wat?? Noooo! They are so cheap that you can taste the cheapness! D:
Ohh.. That is true.. You've never tasted Norwegian meatballs before... That explains everything >:3
But.. OKAY OKAY THE ETERNAL ICE CREAM THING FOR 1$ IS KINDA WORTH IT!

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-25 14:03:05 +0000 UTC]

PAT CRAB MAN ??? *CONFUSED AND PATS YOUR HAND* 

NO I DO NOT WANT THAT! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 
I WANT TO TRY ALL THE MEATBALLS! YES ICE CREAM FOR $1 OMG SO CHEAP MUST 
HAVE! 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-25 15:48:54 +0000 UTC]

YESH! THE POSTMAN LIVING UNDER DA SEA!! *PATTING YOUR HAIR*

OH YES YOU WANT THAT!! TRUST ME ITS MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE SWEDISH IKEA MEATBALLS!!! 
(I ate 5 ice creams with some friends once for 1 $.. because no one noticed that we just filled up our cups over and over :3)

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-27 14:59:00 +0000 UTC]

LOL Not sure his cat will like dat ;U SO CREEPY! WELL.... *PATS YOUR HAIR BACK * 

HOMEMADE MEATBALLS! MAKE ME MEATBALLS! I WANT MEATBALLS! MEATBALLSSSSSS! 
(LOL fat sea monster! We cant do that because they have this coin thing
where you have to put into the machine to get the ice cream :c ) 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-27 22:27:33 +0000 UTC]

Probably not.. but it would be a pleasant setting to watch c: NAH ITS HOW WE SAY HI IN NORWAY! *PATS YOUR EYE*

*Makes you meatballs* ..... D:
(HAH! We pay 10Kr which is one dollar and get the cup, then we use a machine to fill.. more.. and more.. and more.. until you're so fat that you don't reach the ¨more¨ button c

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-28 16:01:53 +0000 UTC]

A soaked to the bone cat! Is it really? LOL * pats your nose *

YEAAA GIMME DEM MEATBALLS! 
( LOL fat sea monstah! ILL GO TO YOUR IKEA AND EAT ALL OF YOUR ICE CREAM AND MEATBALLS! )

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-04-28 22:16:29 +0000 UTC]

Yupp! They all love that .. c: *Pats.. Um... elbow :I*

*GETS A MEATBALLLAUNCHER4000 AND SPRAYS MEATBALLS EVERYWHERE* THERE YA GO!!!

(HAHAHA NO WAY! ITS ALLREADY GONE BECAUSE OF ME, SO YOU SHOULD BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT YER OWN!)

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-04-30 16:21:17 +0000 UTC]

If you say so! *pats your hair back* c: 

*EATS THE MEATBALLS * MOARRRRRRR! 

( BUT MINE DOESNT HAVE FREE FLOW OF ICE CREAM! I WILL EAT ALL OF YOUR ICE CREAM THEN!
MWAHAHAHHA NO MORE ICE CREAM FOR YOU ! NOMNOMOMOMNOM ) 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-05-01 14:57:56 +0000 UTC]

*pats your hand patting my hair.. pat pat pat @.@*

NOOOAR!!! *HIDES ALL THE MEATBALLS!!!!*

(MUAHAHA!! WHAT IF I STORE EVERYTHING SOMEWHERE YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE ARE? SO I CAN BE A FAT'LIL SEAMONSTER AND ENJOY IT ALL MYSELF!!!)

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-05-02 11:45:41 +0000 UTC]

*pats your hand that is my patting my hand which is patting your hair * YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAA

Aww come on! Learn to share! sharing is caring! D:

(I WILL FIND IT! NOBODY STOPS ME FOR GETTING ICE CREAM WHEN I WANT ICE CREAM! >;C
*LOOKS BEHIND YOU * OR MAYBE ITS INSIDE YOU! ) 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-05-02 14:07:17 +0000 UTC]

*pats your hand that is patting my hand that is patting ypur hand that is patting my hair* HAH! Your move >

i know.. But i've never seen the word caring before.. I don't know what it means.. Especially sharing >.> (blamibg that i am not english! Wooh ! xD)

(MM..mm.. Nooomaybe? *looks down at tummy nervously and takes a step back* IF SO THEN YOU'RE NEER GETTING IT! MUAHAHA!!)

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-05-05 15:26:27 +0000 UTC]

Hmmmm * removes hand that is patting your hair and puts it on top making u pat your own hair * how confusing! 

Lol never hearf of the word caring? Sharing too? Its care and share but in present participle form xD

( i noticed that your belly grown bigger hmmm.. could it perhaps be in your belly?!?!  *walks closer to u * HMMM )

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-05-05 15:55:51 +0000 UTC]

*brain goes wubbi wubbi doo and.. Pats your hand that removed your hand so your hand could pat my hand that is patting my hand that is patting your head!* i think i did it xD

haha i was just jokinh silly! :3 i know the words but  i blame my english skills for not knowing what it means, so i don't have to care and share with anyone! My evil plan >:3

(...>.>... <.< umm... Nooooooo...... I'm just... Pregnant... Yeah that!!  I mean, who would hide it in there? I wouldn't be able to enjoy it myself... *fake netvous smile E:*)

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-05-11 06:57:53 +0000 UTC]

*removes all of your hands and pats your head with both of my hands *
HA WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT EARLIER? 

*GASP * well not if i stop your evil plan! *WEARS HERO COSTUME *
I will defeat you evil sea worm! feel my wrath!

A PREGNANT SEA MONSTER????! wait arent you a guy?! GUYS CANT GET PREGNANT! 
DO I LOOK LIKE A FOOL TO YOU? ITS IN YOUR BELLY ISNT IT? * death stare* 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-05-11 22:41:38 +0000 UTC]

MY GOD YOU SMARTIE!! *drums your head with a random cheap beat* :3

HAHAHA I READ ¨Feel my breath ¨ for some reason! I died!! xD
HAHA NO YOU CAN'T! *Wears a.. scaleish costume and a evil dark fedora* Because your wrath is as bad as your breath.. And i can fix that asap! *Shows a mint box with some kind of bad advertisement music in the background* TADA!!

YES..NO.. YA..I.. I HAVE A ICE CREAM BABY!!!.. I MEAN.. I.. just woke up with a ice cream inside of me.. so it must be a baby ice cream right? *super fake smile c:*

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-05-12 17:05:48 +0000 UTC]

Hey! dont drum my head! >:L *drums your head back * BADUM 

yeah you should feel my breath? LOL HOW DARE YOU
INSULT MY BREATH! RUDE! YOU SHOULD SMELL YOUR OWN BREATH!
*THROWS MINTS AT YOU * MINTSSSSS

oh god imagine how it would look like LOL HMMM FINE 
ILL LET YOU OFF! ILL JUST STEAL SOME ICE CREAM FROM YOUR HOUSE! *BREAKS INTO YOUR HOUSE* 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-05-13 12:29:08 +0000 UTC]

I can do what i feel like! MUahahaahaHA! *Drums your hands and your hand.. AND backhead with mah tail!!* BADUM TISH!!

*NOMS THE MINT AND BREATHES OUT A SUPER COLD BREEZE AND FREEZES STUFF TO ICE.. CREAM* HAH! MY BREATH IS JUST GLORIOUS!!! 

OkaythatisverygooooHEY!!!! *SPRINTS INTO HOUSE AND DIVES INTO MY ICE CREAM BOX* IZ MINE!! *HISSES AND LOCKS THE BOX*

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-05-15 14:23:14 +0000 UTC]

OH YEAH? * drums your tail plus head combined * DRUM SOLO * HA! 

well its better than your bad breath! im outta here * walks away*

OPEN THE BOX NOW! * Glares into your eyes * OR I WILL TAKE IT BY FORCE! 

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-05-16 11:54:45 +0000 UTC]

(Derp clicked to fast <.<)

But.. but.. it smells.. ice cream and meatballs ;_; WHICH IS GOOD!

NEVER!!!YOU WILL NEVER GET MY YUMMY ICE CREAM!!! *Dives into ALL the ice cream, enjoying it without you -w-*  You get it OVER MY BODY!

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-05-16 16:28:48 +0000 UTC]

NEVER! *DRUMS YOUR TAIL AND PUTS CYMBALS ON YA HEAD AND DRUMS YA HEAD * ( YOUR BELLY CAN BE THE BASE DRUM HEHEH ) BADUMTISHHH

NOPE NOPE NOPE! NO THANKS *SITS ON A UNICORN AND FLIES OFF *

I GET IT OVER YOUR BODY? OKAY *JUMPS OVER YOUR BODY AND GRABS DA ICE CREAM * YAAAY NOMOMNOM

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Spaceys-Archives In reply to Rexiehh [2014-05-18 22:43:24 +0000 UTC]

OUCH OUCH OOUCH! T-T'
*DRUMS OUR HEAD WITH THE CYMBAL, WHILE DRUMMING YOUR TUMMY WITH YOUR TAIL AND OHMYGOSHIAMLOSINGCONTROLHERE D:*

*SITS ON A MAGIC FLYING MINT* BUT IT IS GLORIOUS I PROMISE!!!!!! MY DOCTOR APPROVES!! 

eyyyy.. i meant.. i just.. but you.. COME ON!! *JUMPS.. UNDER YOUR BODY AND GRABS THE ICE BACK* HAH! (Because yes it is totally possible to jump under someone :3)

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Rexiehh In reply to Spaceys-Archives [2014-05-20 15:20:50 +0000 UTC]

*DIZZY * NO MORE DRUMMING! * THROWS ALL THE DRUM EQUIPMENT AWAY AND GRABS MY TAIL FROM YA HAND * 
THERE! NO MORE CONFUSION! @_@ 

YOUR DOCTOR MUST BE A WITCH DOCTOR! NO BLEHHH 

hahaha! ENGLISH! *parkour jumps over ya body and snatches the ice cream and runs away with it* 
MWHUAHAHAHA NOW I POSSESS THE ICE CREAM! YUMMM 

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