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Description it's shame to back here.. please see this as MadaIta and SasuIta. as I promised. (god kill this dumbass plz! )

well, I miss you guys so much!
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Kalikarchra [2010-08-03 00:20:59 +0000 UTC]

lol this made my day! *faves*

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starbuckets In reply to Kalikarchra [2010-08-03 02:05:29 +0000 UTC]

my pleasure ^^

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RiseDarkMoon [2010-08-02 20:57:06 +0000 UTC]

when I just though he can't be more foolish

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starbuckets In reply to RiseDarkMoon [2010-08-02 23:38:53 +0000 UTC]

sure, he always the most foolish one, even the simplest fact that he cannot see, prefer to trust an obvious lie but doesn't believe the eyes himself.
what's he doing with his eyes? dig them out better.
he just become much blind with Itachi's eyes, foolish is foolish, nothing to do with whose eyes he had.

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RiseDarkMoon In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-03 09:39:13 +0000 UTC]

he is one of the most retardest anime char I've seen
kishi triying to make him evil
but without cleverty evil means nothin to me

poor itachi now they bring back him with edo-tensei
and now sasuke got his eyes but he also got eyes
it's too complicated ...arrg
poor manga,it used to be so good

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starbuckets In reply to RiseDarkMoon [2010-08-04 04:50:19 +0000 UTC]

do you mean madara trying to make sasuke evil? sorry I'm not sure who kishi is.orz

would you try explain me again please? I know it's complicated and I'll try my best to understand what situation is.

but I'm agree with you that Kishimoto just made this poor manga cannot be much more worse. it used to be good. even excellent.

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RiseDarkMoon In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-04 08:25:26 +0000 UTC]

ahaha you're soo cute
..lol kishi is kishimoto XDD the mangaka
he is trying to make sasuke evil
but I only see a retard boy in him nothing more
evil needs intelligence to me ...like madara,like orochimaru


and *sob yeeess...it used to be excellent,I cannot agree more
(it started to sucked after itachi's dead....being worthless after nagato's mary-sue jutsu)
but I still reading sometimes for the sake of old characters

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starbuckets In reply to RiseDarkMoon [2010-08-04 09:27:23 +0000 UTC]

adorable word to me.
i see. i'm totally agree with you, Kishimoto is trying to make up an
intelligent Sasuke but that just makes him worse than ever.
fight with five leaders, claim to kill the mates he used to have, and even
admit Itachi's eyes that he refused before.
let me say this, the rating of abilities: Madara>Orochimaru>..>Sasuke.(in my opinion)

I've read Naruto since I was in the middle school, at that time there's
no Itachi, no Madara, no blablabla, only team 7 and their enemy Orochimaru.
over time, I cannot recognize any character in the manga when I pick up Naruto today.
in this time I shall read the comic every week but only quick look, also, for the sake of exellent once.

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RiseDarkMoon In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-04 10:03:34 +0000 UTC]

even I hate prejudices,I got them a lil bit
I know naruto since 2005,but I never watched it back then
I though that the animation quality is sucked and the main chars are kids
so it must be a kid show
and I was like a hellsing,akira,DMC fan ...blood gore etc.
but then I start to watch it in 2007 n can't resist the awesomenes
bcus naruto used to reallly hit you the heart
the chars was really well written all of them got unique abilities n personalities
and def not overdosed
but kishi just ruin the best part in the manga
--->>>Emotions
not fake basic empty things...
he ruined sakura,sasuke n naruto
naruto-child of propecy,jesus ...WHAT THE HELL
sakura-still useless crybaby..even her teacher is tsuna even can beat sasorii,stilllll the same -_-
n sasuke....no need words to describe u already told it XD
(n shitholemaru ,the real hero of konoha ppff )
and kishimoto killed off akatsuki like bugs..just irirating bad guys need to die
(he used to love every char of him I believe,evil or not...like kimimaru,zabuza,haku,gaara ..even oro)
n
yeah I'm full of pity n hate...just I feel really bad
bcus still to me ,naruto is the best(old naruto) I couldnt find better anime yet
*death note is a exception


u think I'm obsessive?

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starbuckets In reply to RiseDarkMoon [2010-08-04 11:32:59 +0000 UTC]

I can feel your strong emotion about naruto. that's okay. you're real Naruto manga fangirl.
sometimes you have to speak out, I could hear.

the same feeling I knew as hitman reborn, Amano Akira, she's like a female
version of Kishimoto, she created a wonderful world in the manga, then destroyed herself completely.
more than a group fangirls told me that they didn't want to see this manga anymore, but just cannot leave
that because their favorite character's still here.
so what? I said to them, just pretend your character is dead. it's the way how I could escape from the awful comic.

it's what happen to my fav charac, he was ruined as a a gril by the author, although everybody knows
he acts as a uke in the most time, but Amano didn't stop to make her comic more close to a homosexual comic.
it's hurting and hard to say goodbye to the character you loved, but when your love become suffering,
no need to stay anymore.

however, I'm neither a specific Itachi-fangirl nor a real Naruto-fangirl, I just enjoy the thing which I like.
I like fanart.
after my survive from hitman reborn, I lost most of passions to manga and anime but learnt something important.
so when the same thing happened to Naruto, I'm not surprised. it happens everymintue.

uh..seems I'm lost my point.XD
well, I try to explain the thing is mangaka is the author,
no matter how we curse it not gonna work, they have own theory.
sometimes some characters rise, sometimes some characters down, like Naruto, like Akatsuki.
all we need to do is to see, waiting the result. then we could have our own story basic of the original.
because it happens all the time, don't be upset.

PS,also I like DMC but no chance to play the game. prz

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RiseDarkMoon In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-04 12:03:56 +0000 UTC]

it's weird that lot of really good anime manga artists that love KHR
I never liked it ...I feel weird

and ah I know how you feel,I feel the same way in Renji in bleach ..probaly you know him
the read haired sexy guy...ruined big time thanks to KABU

ah so your first anime is KHR then ı understand how you feel towards to it

n thanks for your long speech it's good to talk with you
*that the best way create your doujin
like I do

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starbuckets In reply to RiseDarkMoon [2010-08-05 09:34:50 +0000 UTC]

so you don't like KHR? I see.
you know, even me look back to KHR, I ask myself: why did you love this shit!?
the reason is has to say Amano created a good background of KHR,
though maffia is a gimmick stunt, but I love the bkg, only the bkg.

I know Renji, this sexy man! I prefer he puts the hair down.
I've seen 415 spolier of Bleach, holy crap.
people who followed Bl said that Bleach and Claymore could marry now.

thanks your understanding.
actually my first anime is Fullmetal Alchemist, I love Roy Mustang!
you'r welcome. glad to listen to you.
let's creat more doujinshi!

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LittleElvert [2010-08-01 18:12:19 +0000 UTC]

LOL! XDDDD
Great idea! /Damn, I have some... inappropriate thoughts about how Sasuke is gonna use Itachi's old clothes.../

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starbuckets In reply to LittleElvert [2010-08-01 20:28:22 +0000 UTC]

how about your idea, i'm listing.*chuckle*

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iloveboo [2010-08-01 13:51:20 +0000 UTC]


foolish little borther is foolish


glad to know that ur back dear

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starbuckets In reply to iloveboo [2010-08-01 20:48:33 +0000 UTC]

yes, foolish litte brother is foolish wahahaha
I'm here, glad to see you again ^^

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kami-lein [2010-08-01 10:48:02 +0000 UTC]

Wahaha!
Sasu is so easy to persuade.
And it´s good to see new artwork from you, deary!
I missed you so much. ;3;

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-01 20:45:24 +0000 UTC]

is that a "lol" ita-face? shining! *hide face behind hands*
so glad to see you here*huge hugs* I miss you everyday while I'm leaving
I crawl back without your madaita in the end, please blame me

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-01 20:54:09 +0000 UTC]

Yes! An Itachi-LOL for my dear. x)
Gosh! Please just don´t leave deviantART like that again, hai?
Forget about my stooopid MadaIta-request. (And btw that artwork made my day... Madara´s most precious collection. Ahahaha~! )
Just keep on drawing Itachi-beautifulness as you used to.
Love u! :3

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-01 21:25:30 +0000 UTC]

I won't leave without a message again.
glad you still love my art, oh and, god I love you this face so much> happy girl!XD
yes precious! I forgot how to spell this word when I creating this crap, how foolish am I!XD (and you got the meaning I wanna express, wahahaha)
will do more Itachi works, even only for you guys.

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-01 22:39:04 +0000 UTC]

D'awww~!
Of course I do love your art. I was stalking your website every day, just to see if there were some updates.

But anyways...
How are you doing?
I hope everything´s fine.

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-02 00:21:34 +0000 UTC]

you're so nice! please let me hug! >.<
well I'm really shame about there almost two months no update, sorry for let you down these days. >_<

about I said that cannot draw Itachi anymore in feedback of the website is true. something happens recently with a unnecessary argument about "you could leave Itachi group now if you love Yondaime Hokage", that an Ita-fangirl said to me, not quite this meaning but almost.
well, I did said that I like Yondaime Hokage, and I always like this shining man in Konoha, but that doesn't mean I've abandoned Itachi, maybe I don't like Uchiha clan, but not include Itachi.
It's a such dead stupid argument that I've ever heard. no one said Uchiha deserver death, and I'm not interest in compare dark Itachi with light Yondaime, are they related in this point? I don't think so.
but the girl she just didn't listen to me and continue blame me this. so I decided leaving at last.
that's the whole thing. I said leaving to that fangirl but not Itachi, I won't leave with this crap but it really affect mood. so..you know, I need a healing time, and the recovering works much better when I saw you.

I'm doing well, I've stayed in a language school some days, everything's going to be fine. ^^
nice to see you again, honey.

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-02 11:26:01 +0000 UTC]

D'awww~!
Awww~ Don´t worry about that. I think most people are just happy to have you back here.

AND WHAT?
This is a stupid argument, indeed. But just ignore that, my dear.
There´s no point in discussing this issue with an Itachi-fangirl anyways.
As for me I like Itachi and Madara and that´s way more contradicting than Itachi and Minato, if liking Itachi and Minato is contradicting at all.
Baka fangirl, seriously. She should be ashamed to make a fan of Itachi like you leave while calling herself an Itachi-fan.

I just hope that you forget about that pointless thing, my dear.
Don´t bother yourself with people like that. I love your artwork - regardless of the characters you draw.

I´m so happy to have you back. Really~!

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-03 09:12:29 +0000 UTC]

oh girl you always cheer me up!
so glad I still have you guys here.*sob* love you dear

so I'm keeping ignore the girl though she trying to make a conversation to me, I'm a coldass just leave me alone all right? (I'm not saying seriously, forget this)
in fact I'm not upset about this thing but thank for it, that hleps me to know more about this girl's childish just like our little brother Sasuke(can I say Sasugay? XD).
well, I'm just feeling a little bit disappointed, that I used to believe Ita-fangirls are not unreasonable as normal Sasu-fangirls, I mean at least in China, Sasugirls is a super big trouble, fragile and furious. they work as alone and cause trouble anywhere anytime, I never want to meet them and never want to talk to them.
as I usually said, there's no problem with the character, only if the one has a group of problem fangirl.

but thanks you always behind me, love you forever.
I'll try my best to progress with every artwork.

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-03 13:18:04 +0000 UTC]

我也爱你。
(That´s how much I still know from my Chinese lessons. )

Hahahaha~ LAWL Sasugay.
I guess fangirls are just plain brainless fangirls - regardless of the character they are fangirling about. Poor Itachi-san...
Please be careful, dear. Fangirls are aweful people.

Don´t thank me, dear.
Hai! Ganbatte kudasai! <3

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-04 03:15:36 +0000 UTC]

Perfect Spell, Hundred Point!(as Chinese degree)

don't mind those awful fangirls, I know you are best, I know the Itagirls here are best, that's enough.

I saw that nickname in We-Hate-Sasuke group, quite interesting.
be honest I don't hate this silly boy but gives your brother's eyes back!
anyway, Madara and Itachi and Sasuke, no matter who loses it won't be a tragedy such like this situation.
but be selfish to say, I want Itachi lost, than he should alived perhaps.well, at least in fanfiction..

wait a minute, oops! maybe I can try once. but I'm not good at to make up a stroy for Itachi especially the outcome has been fixed.
will you be going to make up a stroy for Itachi with me?

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-04 07:02:54 +0000 UTC]

Woohoo! Thank you, Starbuckets-sensei!

And you are the best.

Wai~! Sure thing. Let´s make up an alternate story, nothing´s wrong with that.
Do you already have any ideas?

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-04 08:10:40 +0000 UTC]

you could just call me nara as the name I leave on the website,
starbuckets is too long for typing.

thank you dear!
well in my thought only has a blurry shape now. as I said if Itachi claimed
quit when he heard Sasuke left Konoha and came to Orochimaru, then things
should been changed greatly.
if he could came back to Konoha in this way..be selfish thought, that's his dream, doesn't it?

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-04 08:24:42 +0000 UTC]

Okay, I´ll call you nara-san then.

Wow, that would make it very complicated to write. I mean, Konoha people are so foolish, they would´n let Itachi return just like that and let him live a peaceful life as he wishes to. And what about Sasuke? Does Itachi even care about him then any longer? Or will Itachi try to retrieve him from Orochimaru that way?

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-04 09:57:03 +0000 UTC]

as you like.

hum..I think you're right. I don't care what Konoha people think, and Itachi can never
really back to Konoha, only once for the mission.
also I think Itachi does know that,he comes to retrieve Sasuke his foolish brother,
he knows if Sasuke growns up with Orochimaru that he must be enemy of Konohain the future.
he will kill Sasuke if necessary.

I know it only in my thought.
about why Itachi leaves his brother alone with Orochimaru in the manga that
the reason doesn't make sense to me. if he really cares about Sasuke then he
won't let that happen, he does want Sasuke to be stronger but not depends on weak power.
Itachi knows Orochimaru, how the evil ability he has, and he doesn't like him very much.
so how could Itachi let this evil guy to pollute his brother? and leaves them together
three years? it doesn't make sense.

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-04 10:42:45 +0000 UTC]

ZOMG! So you also think, that Itachi would kill Sasuke for Konoha´s sake?
That´s what I think, as well. Itachi loves Sasuke, there´s not doubt about this. But I think as Sasuke behaves in the manga right now, Itachi would´ve just killed him. Itachi wanted his brother to be a hero of Konoha, not a criminal that is wanted by all the great nations. Sasuke is truly breaking Itachi´s heart with all the crap he´s doing now.

I think, that´s one of the bad characteristics of Itachi...he´s a machiavellian person, too. He´s not completely the good boy as everyone says.
He just does, what he thinks is right in order to maintain peace, he actually hates everything that opposes a stable system that prevents wars from breaking out.

And this firm belief of his he has, is based on his level of thinking. He said once to Orochimaru, that he´d never be able to challenge an Uchiha (remember when he owned Orochimaru that badly that the poor, pedophilic guy had to leave Akatsuki ).
Itachi thougt the same thing would go for Sasuke, as he´s an Uchiha, too. He believed in him, but seriously if it wasn´t for Itachi´s Susano'o, Sasuke would´ve ended up as Orochimaru´s vessel. Sasuke just lacks the will, that Itachi definitely has.
Considering that Sasuke is blinded by hatred it really doesn´t make sense, that Itachi let Orochimaru keep him for such a long time.

Dear, do you have MSN or something similar? Just if you want to share your address with me.

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-05 16:04:34 +0000 UTC]

we just thinking the same thought? hallelujah
I'm dead agree with you, even at the last time that Itachi able to talk
to Sasuke in the manga, he didn't kill him just died in damn smiling!
I really want to shout out "HOLY CRAP!!"
such circumspect as Itachi, didn't he know that what Sasuke gonna be
after his death? he should've known Madara will takes Sasuke away after him.
that's the thing he was trying to avoid all the time.

as you said, Itachi is a machiavellian person, it's true.
he always trying to bury the fact of him, beacuse he exactly knows,
that Sasuke will defeats Konoha if he gets any piece of his truth.
but Kishimoto tells us that Itachi LET Orochimaru carried his brother off
such years, he LET Sasuke survived over and over,
and he just LET Madara took Sasuke away in the end even he knew that.
ridiculous.
so everything he did for maintain peace is nothing.
stable system was broke, peace was gone, the war began.
and that makes his brother turns to a traitor.
how about his wish?
Itachi wants Sasuke to be a hero of Konoha eagerly, for this goal,
he even put himself into Akatsuki, he went so far.
if he knows all of his sacrifice is shit when Sasuke admited to
join Madara, he might to kill both of them.

may the reason Itachi ignored Orchimaru was as you said, he has
belief in Sasuke, they are Uchiha.
he kicked this freak out of Akatsuki and made him as
an experience to rise the level of Sasuke.
if this is the reason he didn't kill Orochimaru at the first time,
a little bit understanding to me.
Itachi should've known that Madara knows his fact,
if he was trying nipped all hidden danger that could made wars breaking out,
he should killed Sasuke at last. however.
but he didn't. it still doesn't make sense to me.

well, all the things Kishimoto told were bugs.
even Itachi also a bug.
everything he did doesn't make sense, and his thinking, does too.
I do love this peaceful man, but the author didn't give him a good story.
whatever, I don't care.
I'll let Itachi kill Sasuke if I make up an alternate story.
Itachi loves peace, I won't let stupid Sasuke broke his heart again.
yes, me are machiavellian person too.

did you mean MSN? I think it alreay placed on the DA page.
it more like my mailbox, I check it every two or three days in a week.
or you want to use a total Chinese chating tool? (kidding)

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-05 18:00:50 +0000 UTC]

Tell me about it...I´ve tried to explain this to several people, but nobody would believe me, that Itachi would kill Sasuke.
He couldn´t kill him back then (when he slaughtered the entire clan), because Sasuke was innocent and his survival was just necessary for the clan´s reputation which Itachi wanted to remain as being a noble clan of strong shinobi. Of course that´s just a fairy tale, but it is a necessity for the peace in Konoha and for the peace of Sasuke´s mind.

Concerning Madara...it just doesn´t make sense. To keep Sasuke away from Madara, he implanted Amaterasu into Sasuke´s Sharingan. Itachi-san, are you serious? As if Amaterasu would be enough to strike down Madara. It wasn´t even enough to defeat Sasuke. But I really don´t want to blame Itachi for this. It´s Kishimoto´s logical FAIL.
As he did a logical mistake when he let Kisame say, that Orochimaru left Akatsuki 11 years ago. Erm, NO?! Then Itachi must´ve been 10 years old. However, he joined Akatsuki when he was around 13 and probably kicked Orochimaru out several years later.

In fact, as much as Itachi desired peace, he destroyed it by himself. You´re absolutely right. He´s always been torn between the two opposites: village and clan (Sasuke). Either reason or love, loyality or pride. These things are just not compatible, sadly.
I just can´t imagine how torturous this was for Itachi.

Yes, kill that silly brat of Sasuke...either Itachi will do it or Sasuke gets killed by his hatred, anyways. It´s a shame that Sasuke´s intellect is that low. Seriously.

LAWL
Chinese chatting tool.
Where can I download it?

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-05 20:55:38 +0000 UTC]

did I acted too much paranoid? sorry about that.
I shall believe Itachi will kill Sasuke, why not? his behaves goes too far.

the first crap I want to say is Itachi cleared whole clan by himself when he only 13 years old?
even he had Madara's help, that's a crap to me.
no matter how gifted, he just a child only 13 years old.
how could Konoha top made this ridiculous order to him? holy crap.

the second thing is, so you've found that logical mistake. Kishimoto said that Sasuke was 13 while he left Konoha,
Sasuke followed Orochimaru 3 years, he sent Itachi death in 16, but when Itachi joined Akatsuki he's also 13 years old,
so let us count: Orochimaru was expelled 10 years of Akatsuki, but official book said Itachi was died in 21.
where's middle two years during the plan of Sasuke's revange?
if Itachi didn't kick Orochimaru out while he just join Akatsuki, he beat him after several years, then he should be much more elder.
either the official book is wrong or it's a conclusive logical mistake.

concerning Madara, I shall blame him something, I only hate him that he used Itachi to control Sasuke.
in this point I feel sad, even I'm not a MadaIta fangirl.
may this mutually beneficial relationship is charming, I'm not against this pairing but not my style.
"How could you do this to him!" << it is not important point.
the big situation is Itachi left Sasuke behind there's more personal reason here, he still loved Uchiha clan, otherwise Sasuke was died.
you're right, Itachi wants Sasuke to remember their noble clan and revive, he still holds something
like reputation, honour, though he claimed that he hated this so much.
he slaughtered the entire clan, most of people there were innocent, such as the old women who talked to Sasuke,
she was innocent, but she was murdered with her husband.
it's hard to explain.
but we know Itachi was absolute guilty, he is a sinner.
in the other side, he also always been tortured with dilemma, all he had to destroy were he loved deeply.
as a Ita-fangirl said, Itachi loves his brother, absolutely. but the problem is, Sasuke is not only person he loved,
he loves all the world, he loves peace equates loves Sasuke.
the such problem is, the only person Sasuke loved is Itachi.
then tragedy started.

hope I didn't say something wrong.
I'm full of determination to kill this silly, stupid, foolish, cool, blind rogue, nothing can change it.
but in this point, Itachi could died in heartbreak, that he must to kill the little brother loved so much by himself.

are you seriously? Chinese chatting tool?
I think the tool is not compatible English and German, will be messy code if you download.
well I should pick up my MSN now,

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kami-lein In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-06 18:55:55 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha~ No no, dear. I meant the other people I told so wouldn´t believe me the little issue we discuss here.

Konoha is ridiculous all the time. It can´t be helped.
The village sacrifices all of their best shinobi for pointless reasons. Like Kakashi´s father Sakumo...he has been loathed for having his comrades, but failing the mission he´s been given. Thus Sakumo killed himself because he couldn´t bear the accusations any longer. Stupid Konoha!
As for Itachi´s mission...do you remember what Tsunade said when she started preparations for the war against Madara? "Now the Uchiha´s fate bothers us all."
WTH?! I was so mad at that. Thanks to Itachi, there´s even something like Konoha and its ignorant residents. How ungrateful people are. Seriously.
Your village sent a child straight to hell. Poor Itachi.

You´re so right...I read the databooks, too. But seriously, the ages of the characters don´t fit at all. Logical mistake, definitely.

Madara...he´s way too interesting to be abandoned, even by the people who dislike him.
I really wonder if the day comes, when Madara will realize that Itachi´s painful life is all his fault. I blame him for that, I really do! So you can say, it makes no sense that I like both - Madara and Itachi.

There´s probably a huge difference between what Itachi interprets as being noble and proud and what the other members of the clan interpret to be of a noble origin and to have a certain pride towards the family you belong to.
Itachi said something like that the people who always refer to the clan as a colletive and not to an individual being, are blinded by foolish presumptions and don´t see what is really important. Not themselves, because they are some great clan with a powerful bloodline. They´re just another family in the village...the village is the collective you should be proud of, not the clan.
You´re not automatically better, stronger etc. than some other people, just because you´re part of the great Uchiha clan. You might be even weak as an individual without your clan´s backup, while the person you assumed to be weaker than you, is, in fact, much stronger.
I think the proof for this is how people used to look at Sasuke...always comparing him to Itachi. It hurt Sasuke a lot and thus Itachi, because he loves his little brother and wants the people to acknowledge his individuality.

Yes, poor Itachi...either way Sasuke breaks his heart, dead or alive it doesn´t matter.

LOL, I could try the Chinese chatting thingy.
I added you in MSN, my nick is maki-maki. Just if you wonder who that maki-maki is.
oh and btw, deary. You really think about Itachi, do you? Not like others (retarded fangirls ). I could recommend you a movie you just have to watch. It´s currently in cinemas. It´s called "Inception". It deals with people´s subconsciousness. Really focused on people´s minds etc. and there´s also a sad story. You should watch it. It really inspired me.

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starbuckets In reply to kami-lein [2010-08-09 23:49:00 +0000 UTC]

sorry for the late reply, it's just, just too long!
that's all right, I don't want to hurt you feeling anytime.

you're right, only stupid word I could give Konoha. Sakumo, Itachi, Minato, the whole clan of Uchiha, what else still exists? only two present. even plus Sasuke, just Neji and Kakashi who called "genius" in Konoha nowadays. but Sasuke was leaving a long time ago, well no, skip this boy, I never thought he's a "genius".
a person who called genius should be like Minato, Itachi, sober and wise, not a whiny brat.
Kakashi's father Sakumo, all his life is a tragic, indeed. same as Itachi, he did best to Konoha but only accusations he got. when I read the stroy of young Kakashi, I thought, WTH? so his father killed himself in the end for this reason!? why Kohona people just didn't let him go for only one miss of a common mission!?
that's...I cannot understand. only ridiculous.
mention Kakashi, he's another tragic Kishimoto made. he was once one of the brightest in Kohona, but now...just not anymore, buried in time. he should be credit more, it's not his character.
it's how Konoha treats their real hero, Sakumo as a guilty, Itachi as a traitor, even people remembered Minato beacuse his dazzling ability not his kind character.
I do remember Tsunade said that. when I saw this part in manga, I spent a few minutes to comprehend. "well she said that maybe ture, but who made this? isn't that Konoha itself?" I thought like this. I could feel your anger, considering what Itachi sacrificed for Konoha, I gave up to maintain my neutrality, Konoha deserved their ungrateful. even I was pity for Pein's death, he shouldn't been talked over by Naruto so early, he should given more damage to Konoha. btw, did Tsunade know Itachi's fact?
but we know the war bursting out was because Madara and Sasuke, the issue gets back to Itachi, he let Sasuke alive.
in fact no matter Sasuke survived, the war will break out. but Sasuke, he's stupid enough to against Itachi's wish, he acts himself as he is Madara's hitter even he's not the behind.so what's this looks like? everyone thinking all this happened Konoha was Itachi's fault.
yes, Konoha sent young Itachi a hell that wanted him to kill his clan, now Konoha hated Itachi for his sneaking younger brother, if there's never an order to destory Uchiha will be better look? but they made themself, and first.
I don't care what other people think, I won't forgive this ridiculous country anything they did irrational.

well, forget that logical mistake, Itachi still outstanding.
I think there's no way Madara to realize he made Itachi's painful life, because only he cared was Izuna. what noble, what reputation, all excuses. only wish he had was his brother could came back, also did Sasuke. be honest, there're no wrong with their hopes, but they just overreact, that's forbidden.
I don't comment other's pairing, always a reason you like them.
but you're right, Madara and Sasuke broke my heart already, maybe I could ship Izuna and Itachi. LMAO *no I'm not serious lmao

in my point, I will hate the clan where I belong. people there were blinded to proud of bloodline and narrow to see how much accomplishments you've done but ignored who you are. the best example is Hinata Hyuga, she belongs to another bloodline clan in Konoha, without ability she was suffered every discrimination in her big family, even she's Hyuga chief's daughter.
so look at Neji Hyuga, if Hyuga clan was in the same situation as Uchiha, I believe he will make a decision as Itachi does, clear the clan to break the chain.
I'm not talking about Neji is Itachi and certain they are not, I try to say is humanity's a difficult theme to tell, everything there's a reason, every piece of happiness, every piece of animosity, the Uchiha clan going extinct is not a coincidence, they're not died for an order, they're died for presumption, the whole clan is the payment of noble.
Konoha is not right and Uchiha is not wrong, what happened Uchiha today will be soon to Konoha.
as you said, ignorant don't know their presumption.

I really know all Itachi did was wished to be good for Sasuke, although it's only in Itachi's mind. the Uchiha brothers just didn't considering each other's feeling, they did all of they thinking right, they supposed to be fine but were not. so much they loved each other but only departd could helped.
tragedy. still the word, but only the word could contents.
maybe this is the reason made Uchiha brothers seems more attracting.

did you say Inception? I'm already saw it!
that's...it was a day I feel bad so went to the theatre and chose a movie random, so I've seen Inception already. it's really FANTASTIC! awesome anywhere except not very understood ending.
I love all characters in the movie not include protagonist's wife, well, his dead wife. may her role is to acting a siren, she made it.
I will download another version in Chinese to help understanding, thanks the recommendation!

I do thinking Itachi, so do you. I like to chat with a girl who really think about Itachi as you not just mad about Minato is light Itachi is dark blablabala.
ah, MSN..I should download a new one, old doesn't work anymore. orz will do!
if you really want to try a Chinese chating tool, let me searching first, I did remember there's an international version...try this >> [link]
I haven't used this version, tell me if it works.

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starbuckets In reply to starbuckets [2010-08-05 21:11:46 +0000 UTC]

oops, I'm a SUPER BAKA! comment twice. orz
DA cannot delete any comment?

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