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StephenStitches — Michael Rowe: I Admire Your Work!

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Michael Rowe's Deadshot said "I admire your work! Guess you won't be extending me any professional courtesy!" in the Arrow TV show episode "Lone Gunmen" [season 1, 2012].  Michael Rowe's Deadshot/Floyd Lawton from the Arrowverse show Parallel Earth in the DC Multiverse meets my concept of Johnny Depp as Deadshot/Floyd Lawton from the Burtonverse Earth, which would likely be Tim Burton's choice for Deadshot if Warner Brothers had let Tim Burton make more Batman movies. 

Johnny Depp with that thin mustache and slicked hair looks like the original Deadshot/Floyd Lawton stepped out of the comic pages into three dimensions. Examples: www.cosmicteams.com/profiles/i…
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In Cinefex #41 (1989) Tim Burton explained, "We were drawing from the original [Golden Age era Bill Finger and Bob Kane] DC comics strip for inspiration - there was bound to be a certain '40s feeling to it."

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"I don't know if any ideas made it in," says Tim Burton of the subsequent Batman Forever film. "I realized halfway through my meeting with Warner Bros. that they didn't really want me to do the movie. They kept saying, ‘Don't you wanna go back and do a movie like Edward Scissorhands? Something smaller?' I said, 'You don't want me to do the movie, do you?'"
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In 1995 co-chairman of Warner Brothers Robert Daly said, "Terry Semel and I wanted this [Val Kilmer] Batman to be a little more fun and brighter than the last [Michael Keaton] one. The first [Michael Keaton] Batman [(1989)] was wonderful. The second got terrific reviews, but some people felt it was too dark, especially for young kids."

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Tim Burton explained, "I think I upset McDonalds [Happy Meals]. [They said] 'What’s that black stuff coming out of the Penguin’s mouth. We can’t sell Happy Meals with that!' It was a weird reaction to Batman Returns, because half the people thought it was lighter than the first one and half the people thought it was darker. I think the studio just thought it was too weird — they wanted to go with something more child-friendly, family-friendly. In other words, they didn’t want me to do another one."

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Tim Burton explained, "Even Batman [(1989)]; that did great at the box office but it was not well critiqued. 'Batman's too dark.' I mean Batman made a lot of money but critically, it was panned and considered too dark."

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Jack Nicholson's Joker also made kids cry in the theaters when he fried that guy with horror movie imagery of a fried corpse, so he was also too dark, especially for young kids, but Michael Keaton Batman (1989) made so much money that Warner Brothers called it "wonderful" and didn't so much care that it was so dark and also there was no McDonald's Happy Meal tie-in in 1989, instead there was a Taco Bell cups tie-in that wasn't strictly marketed to young kids.

Warner Bros co-chairman shouldn't have made a corporate tie-in deal with McDonalds to peddle Happy Meals to toddlers off of the Michael Keaton Batman movies in the first place. The solution wasn't to boot out Burton and bring in Schumacher to tone down and dumb down Batman movies for toddlers, the solution would be for the co-chairman to temper their own corporate greed of trying to milk as much money as they could out of the Batman franchise by peddling it to toddlers. They made the wrong choice and choose corporate greed and drove the Batman movie franchise into the ground from 1995-1997.

Tim Burton explained, "Well, they’re wrong! It’s like with Warner Bros., because that’s where my history has mainly been. I’m always amazed — movies that they fight tooth and nail and are always the weirdest, those are the ones that end up making them all the money. All they have to do is look at their fucking slate of movies! The proof is there.

Well, I don’t think of kids or adults. What’s child? What’s adult? Everybody is everything. It has more to do with a feeling. I think I’ve always felt the same. I’ve never felt like I was a kid. I’ve never felt like I was a teenager. I never felt like I was an adult. I just have always felt the same. I’m just lucky that it wasn’t beaten out of me. I was very lucky that I maintained a passion for it [art] and didn’t give a fuck what my third-grade teacher thought of it. It has less to do with being a child than it has to do with keeping an open, wonderful, twisted view of the world. I grew up with a fascination for people that were dangerous. Why a fascination with clowns? Why do I like clowns so much? Why are they so powerful to children? Probably because they are dangerous. That kind of danger is really what it’s all about. It’s that kind of stuff that I think gets you through life. Those are the only things worth expressing, in some ways: danger and presenting subversive subject matter in a fun way. I link this stuff to the power of fairy tales. All roads lead to them, for me, because of what I think their purpose is. Everything is under the umbrella of life and death and the unknown, and a mixture of good and bad, and funny and sad, and everything at once. It’s weirdly complicated. And I find that fairy tales acknowledge that. They acknowledge the absurdity, they acknowledge the reality; but in a way that is beyond real. Therefore, I find that more real.

Well, we’re talking about the movie industry. Especially the whole 'happy ending' routine. They always like a happy ending. I don’t need a happy ending. I will not base my decisions on what to do based on the thought of 'success.' So in some ways, I’m not afraid of that — I’ll do what I want to do and hope for the best. It’s personal. The movie is my baby, and I’m putting it out there into the cruel world."

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Tim Burton explained that he wasn't trying to make Michael Keaton's Batman movies extremely dark and completely unhumorous, "I felt it should not be too dark or too campy - I was right in the middle about it. So I pitched 'true' Batman - not the [Adam West Batman] TV series and yet not this extremely dark, unhumorous thing. I thought it could be funny as long as it's not at the expense of the characters." 

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Tim Burton explained, "Batman began as a dark detective. Batman is at heart a vigilante. The only way I could create a Death Wish-type situation was by balancing Batman's crime-stopping antics with absurd humor. The humor is very important to me. I was determined to take it back to a darker vision, a dark melodrama, but with absurd humor."  

Denny O'Neil explained, "We let humor creep into it but it wasn't humor that was making fun of the characters. We allowed people to say funny things as people do in real life."

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Tim Burton explained, "Feelings that I look for in films, in a sense of a mixture of the light and the dark, the funny and the tragic and that scary dysfunctional relationship.... It doesn't really fit into any category. It's got a mixture of everything, which is what I liked about it. You're dealing with a smaller crew, you don't have to worry about McDonald's tie-ins or hear the word 'franchise.'"

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Comments: 6

MetalGearPlasma [2018-10-20 19:20:59 +0000 UTC]

What is most likely Deadshot's reaction to seeing Michael Rowe's "Commadoshot":

Deadshot: -to Michael Rowe's "Commandoshot"- "Who is this man, and why is he acting like a 1980's action movie protagonist?"

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StephenStitches In reply to MetalGearPlasma [2018-10-24 08:28:53 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, reminds me of David Hasselhoff's Nick Fury from 1998.

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MetalGearPlasma In reply to StephenStitches [2018-10-25 01:11:06 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.

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joshvirgin [2018-08-02 23:46:15 +0000 UTC]

Question, did you use Johnny's face from Murder on The Orient Express (2017)?

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StephenStitches In reply to joshvirgin [2018-08-03 10:41:52 +0000 UTC]

Yes! That's it because he had that retro 1930s era look that Batman by Tim Burton was based on stylistically and true to the look that the original comics Deadshot had, too.

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joshvirgin In reply to StephenStitches [2018-08-03 15:25:11 +0000 UTC]

Ahh, I see. Very cool.

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