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WE DON'T LIKE ABUSERS IN THIS HOUSE, NO WE DON'T.
I've always felt weird about Chase, he always seem entilteld and over-angry to me. I didn't like him. He always just seemed like an unpleasant person that could pretend to be nice. Not to mention how he's been homophobic and lesbophobic (saying everyone's sexuality is fluid and implies no one is fully gay, says that a lesbian that doesn't want to date a trans woman is BAD and Transphobic).
Then everything came out. His ex-friend and podcast "You're So Brave" co-host Aaron Ansuini came out on twitter telling everyone that Chase is manipulative and abusive. From not letting him own his own artwork, to keeping money raised from the "We will not be erased campaign", to not paying people who do his captions, editing or artwork, to so much more.
Here are some posts going more indepth: 1) www.instagram.com/p/BrjLuKwH5f… 2) www.instagram.com/p/BrleahGHx_…
Or you look at everything go down on Aaron's Twitter - twitter.com/AaronLinguini
After Aaron spoke out, other people who had met him or worked with him came out, being able to describe settings that Aaron went through despite Aaron not knowing who they are, such as at Panels.
So FINAILLY AFTER A FEW DAYS, Chase makes his "apology" and needless to say.......its shit. The amount of times he says "It wasn't my intention!!", trying to chase away any blame. He also said Aaron "felt as if I was abusing and manipulating you", implying he DIDN'T ACTUALLY ABUSE OR MANIPULATE HIM.
And not to mention he talks about how HE'S getting harassed and how HIS FRIEND'S AND FRIEND'S ANIMALS are getting harassed.......but never says anything about getting people to stop harassing AARON HIMSELF WHO LITERALLY LOST FANS, WAS GETTING HATEFUL MESSAGES EVEN FROM CHASE'S ROOMMATE AND SAYING AARON'S ONLY DOING THIS BECAUSE OF HIS AUTISM AND HE'S OFF HIS MEDS AND AARON WHO WAS GETTING DEATH THREATS BY CHASE'S INSANE FANS
Here's the "apology" if you want to read it - docs.google.com/document/d/1PF…
*sigh* this situation to so shit. Chase is a piece of shit and we should have seen it all coming. He is the worst trans youtuber objectively and we shouldn't be supporting an abusive gaslighting asshole. Even if you think Kalvin Garrah is a bully who supports harassment (which he isn't but go off) after this whole "gothfruits" situation, you have to admit that Chase is even shittier than him.
Fuck, why aren't a ton of tucutes are twitter reporting Chase's account or talking about Chase? Is it because he's seen as a trans icon??
Yes it is. Multiple other popular trans youtubers who are just as big as Chase STILL HAVE NO TALKED ABOUT THIS ANYWAY. Not instagram, not twitter, not youtube, nowwhere. Not Ash Hardell, Not Riley J Dennis, Not Chandler Wilson, Not Jackson Bird, Not Stef Sanjati.
You know who has talked about it publicly? Kalvin Garrah. Storm Ryan. Miss London. Noah Finnce. You know, TRANSMEDS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY SAID TO BE "HURTING THE TRANS COMMUNITY"
They're the only mainstream people talking about Aaron's abuse? Tons of people are overlooking the issue and I'm ashamed of this community
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Since the comment is old I'm not gonna reply to it, but @ the person claiming it's "transphobic" to not date a trans person:
It's is actually homophobic to try to force someone to date someone they are not attracted to.
Claiming a gay man is transphobic for not wanting to date a transman because he isn't sexually attracted
to him because he has a vagina, is not only disgusting, but homophobic and manipulative.
Gender and sexuality are not choices, you can't just choose to be attracted to someone physically,
you can't just choose to be a different gender, you're born that gender no matter your physical body at birth.
Maybe a gay man would be attracted romantically/emotionally to a transman, but a gay man can't just force
himself to be sexually attracted to a vagina just because it's attached to a man.
If sex is a big part of dating/marriage for someone, you can't force them to abstain or go through trauma
forcing themselves to do something over and over that they don't want to physically.
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chase has always wigged me TF out as a Trans Male icon, idk. i am not surprised. =/
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it is transphobic to exclude trans women from your definition of women when you claim to be a lesbian.
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So are they supposed to be able to have sex with a trans women despite not being comfortable with them having a penis? I get why it's bad for people to go around telling trans women that there not women but if someone doesn't want to date a trans women that's fine.
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Nope, I never said that anyone has to have sex with genitals they aren't comfortable with. You accusing me of saying so is simply done for the purpose of putting me on the defence, despite that you know that I have never said such a thing.
Not to mention, not all trans women have penises. Surgery is a thing.
Its fine if you've just by chance never dated a trans woman, it's fine if their genitals and your genitals lead to a sexual incompatibility that leads to you not wanting to date. But to be repulsed by all trans women, is transphobia! Plain and simple. Everything else you say to justify it is just excuses.
If you don't want to fuck a trans woman, dont. Nobody is forcing you to, however, we can call out why your reasoning is transphobic.
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Its a tad bit rapey to say you're a bad person in some way because you don't want to date a certian person. If a lesbian only wants to date cis women then that is fine, she is not transphobic. Its just her sexuality, it doesn't mean their excluding them from their definition of woman.
Am I transphobic because I'm a gay man that wouldn't date another trans man?
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No. It is not rapey at all to say that if you have a prejudice against dating one type of person based on an arbitrary detail like race or gender.
If you refuse to date bi people because theyre bi, youre biphobic.
If you refuse to date black people because they are black, you're racist.
Same with trans people.
Saying that is not forcing you to date or have sex with those people. Don't try to use rape as a defense for bigotry.
Nobody is saying you HAVE TO date anyone you dont want to date. If you say "I like women" and then declare you would never be attracted to or date a trans woman, you are discounting their gender identity. Thats transphobic.
A genital preference is one thing, but there are trans women who have had surgery and they arent any different than cis women other than internal parts. If you judge them purely on transness, and not anything that affects the relationship or even the sex, then youre transphobic.
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I'm only attracted to cis men. No, I'm not transphobic as sex would be a big part to any of my relationships when I'm older.
Its not prejudice, its literally their attraction. Would a black person that only wants to date other black people racist too? No!! Why?
Because people 1. Can't control who they're attracted to and 2. No one has to date anyone! No one has to date a bi person and someone has a right to reject them because their bi. If their reason is biphobic, racist, transphobic etc then they are those things......but simply not being attracted to someone because of one of those things does not make them biphobic, racist, transphobic.
"Bigotry"??? A woman/man is able to regect a trans person for being trans and not be transphobic, ITS THEIR CHOICE AND NOT TO MENTION, THEY CAN'T CONTROL WHO THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO AND IF SEX IS IMPORTANT TO THEIR RELATIONSHIP
No one is required to date anyone. Yes, some people who don't want to date a person of a different skin colour are racist, but that doesn't mean everyone is. A lot of them just aren't attracted to them, and they can't control that. The same goes for trans people. People who are only attracted to one sex can't control that, and the idea that their partner could've been the opposite sex at some point could break it for them. They can't control it, and aslong as they are respectful for it they aren't transphobic.
Now, can we focus on the real issue that is that Chase Ross is an abusive piece of shitm
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Ya you are transphobic lol next
Chase is abusive, but you tied in something completely normal and ok with his abusive actions and tried to call that abusive too. Pointing out your transphobia isnt abusive.
I literally said you're not required to date anyone you dont want to, but the root of your dating prejudice is transphobia.
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Fhgghgfgdgg okay whatever, I know I'm not transphobic and that some people just aren't attracted to other types of people, and it doesn't mean they're a bigot.
Lmao "dating prejudice", literally doesn't exist unless the person is actually racist, transphobic etc etc. Dating is one of the things that doesn't need to be inclusive of everyone, because everybody is not attracted to every person under the son.
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Yeah, and saying "I would never date a trans person" despite the fact that all trans people look different, and have different bodies. (trans men can have penises, for example) then you are making a transphobic generalization based on a prejudice against trans people, either you think that trans men arent real men or you think that trans men are repulsive in some way. Because transness does not impact the relationship at all.
And fucking obviously, nobody is telling you that you have to be attracted to everyone. But specifically ruling out a group of people based on a factor does not impact the relationship at all is prejudice. If I said "I'd never date a black guy" that would be racist. Its the same fucking deal here.
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You really need a reality check when it comes to people's (that you don't know) attraction.
1. I'm a transgender man myself 2. Of course transgender men are men. 3. I am attracted to cis men as they are biologically male and the meer idea of my partner having a v at some point just weirds me out a lot. Of course, a trans man can't control this and I'd be respectful if I was to reject one. And I think sex would be important in a relationship for me as I get older 4. I am the same way with ginger men. I'm not kidding. Ginger hair weirds me out a lot and I just can't see myself with someone who's ginger. I don't hate ginger people or have a prejudice against them 5. Not to mention, it would mean double the dysphoria and I had to learn what triggers their dysphoria which would be hard and stressful for me as I have a hard time reading feelings. And something that might not trigger my dysphoria may trigger theirs and the idea of it makes me sad
Does this mean I'm transphobic? Well if you say yes, then you're just wrong man. I can't change my attraction.
Also, why the fuck do you care so much if someone doesn't want to date xyz person? Especially if the person's over the internet? It doesn't affect you directly.
Unless their reasons are ACTUALLY racist, transphobic etc etc LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE.
What next? You're gonna say gay men are prejudice against women for not being attracted to them?? Jfc
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"the mere idea of my partner having had a v at some point weirds me out" ... yeah... thats transphobic. It doesnt matter if youre trans yourself. Thats transphobic.
Also no, gay men are attracted to men, that includes trans men. Being a trans man isnt a different gender from being a cis man.
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Its 2019. Get over the fact that someone isn't attracted to trans men and its not transphobic, especially from a trans person.
Gay men are attracted to men, which includes ginger men. But that doesn't mean every single gay man is attracted to ginger men.
Get off you're high horse and realise that not everything people might do or think or be is racist/transphobic etc etc. Some people just aren't attracted to a certian type of people and they can't control it.
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im plastered right now cuz its new years but youre so wrong and so stupid. Its 2019 stop thinking its ok to be repulsed by trans people. Happy new year!
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Happy new year! Stop thinking its okay to insult people who literally cannot change their attraction and shouldn't have to give out reasons of why they aren't attracted to x person just so they can be "not transphobic", because most of us aren't actually transphobic as you make us out to be.
Also, I hope you grow in 2019 and have some better opinions
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Omg who gives a shit what you think? Youre transphobic see ya later punk
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i was reading this thread and i saw ur username and it suddenly made sense lol. its perfectly valid for anyone to not want to date someone bc of their genitals fuck you
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Why do you give a shit is someone's not attracted to someone
You started this convo lmao
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lol I used to watch him during my tucute phase in 2015 - 16.
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Oh and the "lesbians are transphobic if they don't date transwomen"
Like,,, no,,, honey,,,
I like feminine bodies. If your a woman with certain masculine features, then I'm just not into you /that way/. Doesn't matter if you're cis or trans, because either way you're still a woman to me.
It's just,,, ugh I see ppl holding lesbians to this standard a million times more than they do with gay men, and it's so frustrating. It's so much easier to pass as male as a female than vise versa, so idk why WE get more greif.
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Oh Jesus. Can't say I'm surprised sadly :/
Idk. Always got a shady vibe off of him. Guess my gut feeling was right again.
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no matter their beliefs, no one should ever support people like chase ross.
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