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stumpy666davies In reply to murderslastcrow [2010-03-21 19:25:32 +0000 UTC]

Hi I couldn't get audacious to work on Kubuntu 9.10 on my Toshiba NB200, hence using Sonique through wine, this is an on going problem i've currently wiped out my Kubuntu, & thinking about installing a different operating system maybe you can recommend being as you have audacious working thanks!

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murderslastcrow In reply to stumpy666davies [2010-03-22 04:36:45 +0000 UTC]

Well, if you like a consolidated start menu, you can actually use the kickstart menu in a gnome-panel, either through hacking it or simply using the Gnomenu theme for Kickstart. However, I haven't found a folder-holding screenlet like the desktop metaphor in KDE.

I'm actually strongly considering making a distro that simply gives Gnome the KDE interface with Gnome applets and the such so that people can use it without worrying about dependencies or clashing themes and whatnot.

I've never had an issue with Audacious in OpenSUSE, Fedora, Debian, or Ubuntu itself, which I use primarily, so I would simply suggest installing Ubuntu with Audacious, and perhaps installing the KDE Desktop afterwards. It seems very odd... not to mention I had Audacious working in Kubuntu itself now that I come to think of it! Hmm.. odd indeed. Toshiba NB200, I should look that up.

But yeah, regardless of the differences between Linux distros, the DE is a lot of what makes the operating system itself preferable, so KDE on openSUSE is basically the same, just different tools. The reason why I stick with Ubuntu is simply because it's smooth and instantaneous for me, along with the incredible ease of package management. I love having a screenshot and icon next to my graphical applications rather than mixing them in with a bunch of libraries. The new Ubuntu Software Center is actually a really nice improvement, and this is the deciding factor for me on which to use.

Anyway, enough blabbing- it will be awesome as soon as they get Winamp 5 working more easily with Wine, since it has more support than Audacious2, but in the end I think Audacious will become more varied and feature filled.

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stumpy666davies In reply to murderslastcrow [2010-03-23 11:33:08 +0000 UTC]

well I have Kpackage manager which is really nice, i like Kubuntu for ease of use but have had problems with getting games to work too. It appears to be to do with Perl 10.5 being too new.

Combined with a problem known on a Toshiba NB200 (Netbook) I bought from China, their sold on ebay very cheap.

Thanks for the heads up with the gnome stuff & I was already thinking of switching to Debian so funny you should mention that as one of the better options Thanks.

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murderslastcrow In reply to stumpy666davies [2010-03-23 18:26:33 +0000 UTC]

Debian's only released when it's ready- however, amusingly enough, the majority of Debian users I know of use the Testing branch "Squeeze" (which will be the next release) because they're obsessed with newness over stability. However, apparently Testing isn't really that dangerous to use. A lot of people use Arch for the same reason, but the package management tools in Debian are vast (look at Ubuntu's Synaptic, Add/Remove, Ubuntu Software Center), not to mention more familiar to you (apt-get install).

I mean, you could just take a bunch of packages and themes from Ubuntu's servers and put them into regular Debian and you wouldn't even notice the difference.

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stumpy666davies In reply to murderslastcrow [2010-03-24 17:54:11 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm more into stability combined with customization, as I like to use a lot of old games & applications.

Looks & ease of use is a must, the quicker it is to install the applications i need & access & run them the better.

Well hopefully I'll have access to a bootable external DVD drive tomorrow to repair my install or install over the top, I can then think some more on what to change to.

As for themes I'm not too bothered I'd like to get cairo dock or something similar to work to launch my most used apps quicker & for my visual pleasure of course being as Mac OSX Leopard is my favorite system I'd like to have the same functionality on my linux netbook.

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murderslastcrow In reply to stumpy666davies [2010-03-24 20:15:49 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Cairo-dock is the way to go since it doesn't suck up GPU and CPU like Avant does. Also, it supports fake transparency, in case you have a computer that can't composite due to a lack of 3d support.

I once had an interface that was solely an auto-hiding dock. It was pretty simplistic and useful, since it had a classical gnome-menu launcher just in case I needed to drag a new program to the dock. And I just used Gnome-Do to launch everything.

I love that, even on a netbook, you can get so much power and sexiness out of your computer.

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stumpy666davies In reply to murderslastcrow [2010-03-25 19:06:18 +0000 UTC]

LoL it was Cairo Dock that stuffed up my computer it didn't work for me, all i had was a few black bars at the bottom & a few icons that where like lines of black & white fuzzy, just like when the old tv's used to go funny.

My computer almost locked right up so managed to get to kpackage manager & removed everything with reference to cairo, but removed something I shouldn't have, required for the desktop to work, so I now only have a commandline on start up LoL it's so funny!

What I should have done was gone to the terminal & Perged Cairo dock but too late once i'd already done what I done at least I learnt from it.

My uncle is attempting to boot from his eternal USB dvd drive today & hopefully it will allow a repair install, if not he'll have to do a fresh install over the top which wouldn't be such a bad thing now I've learnt how to get everything installed the way I like it, apart from the customization.

It'd get rid of the remnants of all the stuff that didn't work.

Also I like the look of Docky which I'm going to try next .

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murderslastcrow In reply to stumpy666davies [2010-03-26 05:45:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Docky and AWN tend to munch on RAM a lot. Lol, yeah, best to just remove it completely than to look through related packages. KPackage is just weird to me, almost like using just Synaptic to install/uninstall all my software. Just seems cumbersome, but I know I've been too lazy to really adjust to it.

They're planning to bring the Software Center to Kubuntu, at any rate. Yeah, this is why some people get a home partition, so they can reinstall Ubuntu without having to back stuff up. But I think taking care of that can be annoying if you don't have enough space for it.

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stumpy666davies In reply to murderslastcrow [2010-03-31 07:55:54 +0000 UTC]

KPackagekit is a hunk of JUNK, it shouldn't allow you to remove packages required by the operating system, but does, at least I learnt from now on to use the terminal & purge the application in question instead I've had to do a fresh install with Kubuntu side by side so as to not lose by data.

I hope the software centre is more user friendly & doesn't allow you to remove packages required by the system, it's so frustrating I only wanted to remove Cairo Dock because it didn't work, but when I installed it there where about 15 packages, so when I came to uninstall I removed everything with reference to Cairo of which a few packages where required by the system, it gave no warning that I was attempting to remove system files, totally not newbie friendly.

I know the basics & can get my way round the terminal & know most of the functions, it's just that I think system files should be hidden automatically in KPackagekit, I had no Idea that some items with reference to Cairo where system files, it should tell you that in the requirements section but most of the requirements sections are all blank so it's mostly all guess work.

Lol anyhow next time I think I'll go to LunchPad & ask for help with the customization stuff & if something doesn't work ask someone who's more familiar with it the best way to uninstall it LOL anyhow looking forward to having more fun with & learning more about Kubuntu & other Linux distributions.

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