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The third version of my Legend of Zelda Timeline. You'll notice I did some changing around of things from the last one. Here is a list of reasons why I believe this timeline to be correct.

1. If we are to assume that Vaati from Minish Cap is the same Vaati from Four Sword and FSA, then we therefore must assume that both games come after Minish Cap.

2. If Minish Cap occurs before Ocarina of Time, then Vaati must appear on both timelines. As we know for a fact that FS and FSA occur on the same timeline, then it is unlikely that Minish Cap occurs first. In fact, my theory is that they may (actually) all occur within a 10 year gap. Minish Cap occurs, a few years later, Zelda checks on the Four Sword and Vaati breaks free. Then a few years after that, she is checking again and Ganon makes Link pull the Four Sword once more. I believe this, due to the fact that the Four Sword is never mentioned outside of the Four Sword games. So, it is possible they all occur within a 10-15 year period, and at the end, Ganon, Vaati, and the Four Sword are all destroyed. If Ganon is thusly destroyed, it leaves a reason for him to be resurrected in the Oracle Series.

3. As I watch the ending to Twilight Princess again, I notice that it appears that Ganondorf actually dies at the end. My reasoning is the Triforce seems to vanish from his hand, and all of a sudden he seems to act weak. He then appears to die, and no one does anything with him from there. In FSA, it is stated that Ganondorf was born to the Gerudo not long before FSA. On top of that, the land in FSA masks the land in ALttP. Thus, it's possible they occur on different timelines, but at the same time. This brings up what I call the "Twinrova Factor".

4. "The Twinrova Factor". In Ocarina of Time, Link kills Twinrova in the Adult timeline, thus ending any chance of Twinrova working to resurrect Ganon. However, when he goes back in time, they are not killed. In fact, we see them in Termina. What are the chances, then, that they moved to Termina after being chased out of Hyrule? This, however, would mean that perhaps Termina is just another piece of land in the world, and not an alternate dimension.

5. In Twilight Princess, we see Link returns back into Hyrule as a child and warns Zelda of the future. The King then has Ganondorf seized for treason and executed, but something goes wrong. This is what I call the "Triforce Paradox" which I will state in a moment. The Sages are then forced to seal him away within the Twilight Mirror BUT Ganon manages to kill one first. In this state, there are now FIVE sages. In Ocarina of Time, however, there were not only SEVEN sages, but Shigeru Miyamoto (or was it Eiji?) has stated that Ocarina of Time is the war mentioned in ALttP. Therefore, ALttP MUST occur on the Adult Link side if we are to believe Shigeru (or was it Eiji?). But you say "They are all one race in ALttP!" That takes us to point 7, but first...a quick note on the "Triforce Paradox".

6. "The Triforce Paradox". Not really a reason, but a note to consider. Link was sent back in time to be a child. When that happened, he was sent back with the Triforce of Courage. This caused a paradox which caused the Triforce to split apart. One went to Ganondorf, and one went to Zelda. This could mean that, perhaps, Din is not an "Evil Goddess" but simply that jumping back in time caused something unforseen by Zelda.

7. The Rito. We can clearly see that, in Wind Waker, the Zora have become a humanoid-like creature. This makes me assume that they could then interbreed with the humans. Not only that, but the Gorons more-or-less vanish, save for a few wandering the land. Now you say "What about Goron Island in PH?" You would know the answer to this if you beat PH. The entire game occurs in an alternate dimension. Thus, there is no Goron Island in the Hylian dimension, or do people forget the fact that they make that point at the end of PH?

8. Zelda 2 itself! For Legend of Zelda 2 to even physically be possible, according to the manual, the King of Hyrule, many hundreds of years before, must have held the full Triforce. This means that Ganon must have died at some point. So, why would Ganon be around again? Simple! If you recall, in Ocarina of Time, Adult Link kills Twinrova. HOWEVER, when he returns to the past, Twinrova is still alive. Who is to say they don't try to revive him? Also, Ganon is revived in Oracle Series. Is it possible this is the same Ganon as the one from Zeldas 1 and 2? Perhaps. However, there may also be a chance this Ganon could be nothing more then a glorified Moblin, as he had to steal the Triforce of Power in order to have it.

9. The Zelda factor. In Zelda 2's manual, it states that Zelda was cast into a deep sleep by a mage when she would not tell the Prince where the Triforce was. If this occurred first and foremost, at the very beginning of the story, then it is impossible for ANY of the other games to occur. You say "Why?" Because Link must have obtained the entire Triforce and awoken Zelda before the Triforce would even be able to exist in the Sacred Realm for Ganon to claim in OoT. Most fans forget the manual states that the King of Hyrule sealed away the Triforce of Courage within the Great Palace. This means that all of this MUST have occurred AFTER Ganon claimed the Triforce in Ocarina of Time, since the same king also had THE ENTIRE TRIFORCE. Therefore, the beginning of Zelda 2 CANNOT occur before any other game, otherwise the Triforce of Courage could not be handed to Link in any of the other games.

10. The mirror factor. This one is my favorite. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, who defends the ALttP occurs after TP thing always uses this one on me. "Both have a magic mirror which allows you to pass between the 'light' and 'dark' worlds." I always want to ask "Have these people finished TP?" In Twilight Princess, Mdina DESTROYS THE MIRROR! Yes! She totally destroys the mirror! There is no more mirror, thus, it cannot continue on to another game. HOWEVER, please remember the Twili were sealed away BEFORE the events of Ocarina of Time. If you want to believe in the mirror factor, you MUST believe they occur on opposite sides, otherwise the mirror cannot exist in ALttP. Also, in TP the Twilight Mirror allowed movement from the Light World into the Twilight Realm. It is possible that the mirror may thus allow you to travel from Twilight to Light should you hold it on the Twilight side, BUT AGAIN, the Twilight Mirror was DESTROYED at the end of TP. There is no way the mirror is the same if they occur on the same timeline, but it is possible if they occur on opposite sides, which brings us to point 11.

11. Twilight Realm vs Dark World. In Twilight Princess, we see the Twilight causes Link to switch forms. Note, however, that that is the Twilight itself, and not the Twilight Realm. Also, everyone else who enters the Twilight becomes spirits. In the Dark World in A Link to the Past, Link changes forms when he enters the Dark World, but he does NOT become a wolf like he does in the Twilight in TP. He becomes a pink bunny. On top of that, all who enter the Dark Realm became "Reflections of their inner selves." So, did they become spirits? No! They become trees, animals, balls, mushrooms, etc. They didn't become ghosts. Now, factor in that all of this is based upon the Twilight of TP and NOT the Twilight REALM itself, and who knows what could happen? Also factor in that Midna returned to the Twilight Realm at the end of TP. Did she take Ganon with her? No! So why would he end up back in there again? The Twilight Mirror was the only way between realms in TP, but in ALttP, there are several doorways between realms. Without the Twilight Mirror, I see no reason why ALttP could follow TP, not to mention that I doubt the Twili would let Ganondorf back into the Twilight Realm.

12. The hat. Now...this is what's funny...everyone points to the hat in Minish Cap as the reason that it occurs first...well here's something to note: Link doesn't start with a hate in Wind Waker either! The point of this point? So I can say "It's a hat! It has no secret meaning! Get over it! If you want something to point to, find something else!"

13. At the end of the Oracle Series, we see that Link heads off on another adventure upon a boat. In Link's Awakening, we see said boat is thrust into a storm and is destroyed, leaving Link to awaken on Koholint Island. But this brings up the "Nightmare Factor".

14. "The Nightmare Factor". In LA, Nightmare (or Delhek or whatever his real name was...the final boss) states that all of his forms were creatures from Link's past. In these forms we see a giant Bot, Ganon, Agahnim, a Moldorm, along with (I think) 2 other things. People say "He fights Agahnim! That means it occurs after ALttP!" What people forget is in the Oracle Series, one of the minibosses is ALSO Agahnim. This makes the Oracle Series factor still possible, thus meaning LA may occur after OS.

15. "Why the fusion of the timelines?" Quite simple. No matter which way the games are played, we see the ending play out exactly the same, as well as the openings. If they occur on opposite sides of the timeline, then it is possible the timelines fuse together. Also, there was a third game originally planned as well that dealt with "Farore - Oracle of Secrets" On top of that, Farore's purpose is to bring items from one game to the other game. Thus, it's possible he has to traverse timelines, and the retrieving of said items may bring the timelines together. This would also make sense, as it would easily seem like Twinrova would want Ganon to rule over a single Hyrule, and not have to deal with the fact that there are two Hyrules. This also brings up the possibility that their base may occur between timelines, which would explain why Link must be teleported by the Oracles to their base.

16. "The War of the Races". What is the War of the Races you ask? It has also been called the "Hyrulean Civil War". It is the battle where the Shiekah warriors attempted to rise up against their masters (the Hylian Royal Family) and tried to steal away the Triforce using the Fused Shadows. However, the Goddesses sent the Light Spirits to seal them away within the Twilight Realm. From there, two items of their great powers were left behind. One was the Fused Shadows, which was broken into four pieces. The other was Majora's Mask, which was sent off elsewhere.

17. Majora's Mask is an odd game. We see the moon comes crashing down and destroys all of Termina, and Link must rise up to stop it. Many say "If this happened, why wasn't the world destroyed before?" Simple. 1. Termina is a different land completely. If the moon fell on it, it wouldn't destroy everything, just Termina, as is stated in Majora's Mask. 2. What if the occurrences in Termina occurred because Child Link came back? How many were thrown out of Hyrule for treason? Twinrova was, Ganondorf was sealed away, whose to say others didn't run away as well? Maybe the Happy Mask Salesman left? Maybe that's why he went after Majora's Mask? Maybe the peace allowed him to search for it, while Ganondorf's reign wouldn't allow such a thing?

That's about it ^^ Feel free to post with your reasoning, but once again, I don't want "ALttP occurs after TP." I want "ALttP occurs after TP because " understand? Try to make your reasoning as logical and thought out as possible. If it's "The hat!" it's not logical, and there's no reason to point to A HAT as a reason why a game occurs before everything else.

All images used (c) Nintendo
Background (c) my friend, Leon
I don't remember where I found the Zelda font, so don't ask ^^"

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Description
The third version of my Legend of Zelda Timeline. You'll notice I did some changing around of things from the last one. Here is a list of reasons why I believe this timeline to be correct.

1. If we are to assume that Vaati from Minish Cap is the same Vaati from Four Sword and FSA, then we therefore must assume that both games come after Minish Cap.

2. If Minish Cap occurs before Ocarina of Time, then Vaati must appear on both timelines. As we know for a fact that FS and FSA occur on the same timeline, then it is unlikely that Minish Cap occurs first. In fact, my theory is that they may (actually) all occur within a 10 year gap. Minish Cap occurs, a few years later, Zelda checks on the Four Sword and Vaati breaks free. Then a few years after that, she is checking again and Ganon makes Link pull the Four Sword once more. I believe this, due to the fact that the Four Sword is never mentioned outside of the Four Sword games. So, it is possible they all occur within a 10-15 year period, and at the end, Ganon, Vaati, and the Four Sword are all destroyed. If Ganon is thusly destroyed, it leaves a reason for him to be resurrected in the Oracle Series.

3. As I watch the ending to Twilight Princess again, I notice that it appears that Ganondorf actually dies at the end. My reasoning is the Triforce seems to vanish from his hand, and all of a sudden he seems to act weak. He then appears to die, and no one does anything with him from there. In FSA, it is stated that Ganondorf was born to the Gerudo not long before FSA. On top of that, the land in FSA masks the land in ALttP. Thus, it's possible they occur on different timelines, but at the same time. This brings up what I call the "Twinrova Factor".

4. "The Twinrova Factor". In Ocarina of Time, Link kills Twinrova in the Adult timeline, thus ending any chance of Twinrova working to resurrect Ganon. However, when he goes back in time, they are not killed. In fact, we see them in Termina. What are the chances, then, that they moved to Termina after being chased out of Hyrule? This, however, would mean that perhaps Termina is just another piece of land in the world, and not an alternate dimension.

5. In Twilight Princess, we see Link returns back into Hyrule as a child and warns Zelda of the future. The King then has Ganondorf seized for treason and executed, but something goes wrong. This is what I call the "Triforce Paradox" which I will state in a moment. The Sages are then forced to seal him away within the Twilight Mirror BUT Ganon manages to kill one first. In this state, there are now FIVE sages. In Ocarina of Time, however, there were not only SEVEN sages, but Shigeru Miyamoto (or was it Eiji?) has stated that Ocarina of Time is the war mentioned in ALttP. Therefore, ALttP MUST occur on the Adult Link side if we are to believe Shigeru (or was it Eiji?). But you say "They are all one race in ALttP!" That takes us to point 7, but first...a quick note on the "Triforce Paradox".

6. "The Triforce Paradox". Not really a reason, but a note to consider. Link was sent back in time to be a child. When that happened, he was sent back with the Triforce of Courage. This caused a paradox which caused the Triforce to split apart. One went to Ganondorf, and one went to Zelda. This could mean that, perhaps, Din is not an "Evil Goddess" but simply that jumping back in time caused something unforseen by Zelda.

7. The Rito. We can clearly see that, in Wind Waker, the Zora have become a humanoid-like creature. This makes me assume that they could then interbreed with the humans. Not only that, but the Gorons more-or-less vanish, save for a few wandering the land. Now you say "What about Goron Island in PH?" You would know the answer to this if you beat PH. The entire game occurs in an alternate dimension. Thus, there is no Goron Island in the Hylian dimension, or do people forget the fact that they make that point at the end of PH?

8. Zelda 2 itself! For Legend of Zelda 2 to even physically be possible, according to the manual, the King of Hyrule, many hundreds of years before, must have held the full Triforce. This means that Ganon must have died at some point. So, why would Ganon be around again? Simple! If you recall, in Ocarina of Time, Adult Link kills Twinrova. HOWEVER, when he returns to the past, Twinrova is still alive. Who is to say they don't try to revive him? Also, Ganon is revived in Oracle Series. Is it possible this is the same Ganon as the one from Zeldas 1 and 2? Perhaps. However, there may also be a chance this Ganon could be nothing more then a glorified Moblin, as he had to steal the Triforce of Power in order to have it.

9. The Zelda factor. In Zelda 2's manual, it states that Zelda was cast into a deep sleep by a mage when she would not tell the Prince where the Triforce was. If this occurred first and foremost, at the very beginning of the story, then it is impossible for ANY of the other games to occur. You say "Why?" Because Link must have obtained the entire Triforce and awoken Zelda before the Triforce would even be able to exist in the Sacred Realm for Ganon to claim in OoT. Most fans forget the manual states that the King of Hyrule sealed away the Triforce of Courage within the Great Palace. This means that all of this MUST have occurred AFTER Ganon claimed the Triforce in Ocarina of Time, since the same king also had THE ENTIRE TRIFORCE. Therefore, the beginning of Zelda 2 CANNOT occur before any other game, otherwise the Triforce of Courage could not be handed to Link in any of the other games.

10. The mirror factor. This one is my favorite. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, who defends the ALttP occurs after TP thing always uses this one on me. "Both have a magic mirror which allows you to pass between the 'light' and 'dark' worlds." I always want to ask "Have these people finished TP?" In Twilight Princess, Mdina DESTROYS THE MIRROR! Yes! She totally destroys the mirror! There is no more mirror, thus, it cannot continue on to another game. HOWEVER, please remember the Twili were sealed away BEFORE the events of Ocarina of Time. If you want to believe in the mirror factor, you MUST believe they occur on opposite sides, otherwise the mirror cannot exist in ALttP. Also, in TP the Twilight Mirror allowed movement from the Light World into the Twilight Realm. It is possible that the mirror may thus allow you to travel from Twilight to Light should you hold it on the Twilight side, BUT AGAIN, the Twilight Mirror was DESTROYED at the end of TP. There is no way the mirror is the same if they occur on the same timeline, but it is possible if they occur on opposite sides, which brings us to point 11.

11. Twilight Realm vs Dark World. In Twilight Princess, we see the Twilight causes Link to switch forms. Note, however, that that is the Twilight itself, and not the Twilight Realm. Also, everyone else who enters the Twilight becomes spirits. In the Dark World in A Link to the Past, Link changes forms when he enters the Dark World, but he does NOT become a wolf like he does in the Twilight in TP. He becomes a pink bunny. On top of that, all who enter the Dark Realm became "Reflections of their inner selves." So, did they become spirits? No! They become trees, animals, balls, mushrooms, etc. They didn't become ghosts. Now, factor in that all of this is based upon the Twilight of TP and NOT the Twilight REALM itself, and who knows what could happen? Also factor in that Midna returned to the Twilight Realm at the end of TP. Did she take Ganon with her? No! So why would he end up back in there again? The Twilight Mirror was the only way between realms in TP, but in ALttP, there are several doorways between realms. Without the Twilight Mirror, I see no reason why ALttP could follow TP, not to mention that I doubt the Twili would let Ganondorf back into the Twilight Realm.

12. The hat. Now...this is what's funny...everyone points to the hat in Minish Cap as the reason that it occurs first...well here's something to note: Link doesn't start with a hate in Wind Waker either! The point of this point? So I can say "It's a hat! It has no secret meaning! Get over it! If you want something to point to, find something else!"

13. At the end of the Oracle Series, we see that Link heads off on another adventure upon a boat. In Link's Awakening, we see said boat is thrust into a storm and is destroyed, leaving Link to awaken on Koholint Island. But this brings up the "Nightmare Factor".

14. "The Nightmare Factor". In LA, Nightmare (or Delhek or whatever his real name was...the final boss) states that all of his forms were creatures from Link's past. In these forms we see a giant Bot, Ganon, Agahnim, a Moldorm, along with (I think) 2 other things. People say "He fights Agahnim! That means it occurs after ALttP!" What people forget is in the Oracle Series, one of the minibosses is ALSO Agahnim. This makes the Oracle Series factor still possible, thus meaning LA may occur after OS.

15. "Why the fusion of the timelines?" Quite simple. No matter which way the games are played, we see the ending play out exactly the same, as well as the openings. If they occur on opposite sides of the timeline, then it is possible the timelines fuse together. Also, there was a third game originally planned as well that dealt with "Farore - Oracle of Secrets" On top of that, Farore's purpose is to bring items from one game to the other game. Thus, it's possible he has to traverse timelines, and the retrieving of said items may bring the timelines together. This would also make sense, as it would easily seem like Twinrova would want Ganon to rule over a single Hyrule, and not have to deal with the fact that there are two Hyrules. This also brings up the possibility that their base may occur between timelines, which would explain why Link must be teleported by the Oracles to their base.

16. "The War of the Races". What is the War of the Races you ask? It has also been called the "Hyrulean Civil War". It is the battle where the Shiekah warriors attempted to rise up against their masters (the Hylian Royal Family) and tried to steal away the Triforce using the Fused Shadows. However, the Goddesses sent the Light Spirits to seal them away within the Twilight Realm. From there, two items of their great powers were left behind. One was the Fused Shadows, which was broken into four pieces. The other was Majora's Mask, which was sent off elsewhere.

17. Majora's Mask is an odd game. We see the moon comes crashing down and destroys all of Termina, and Link must rise up to stop it. Many say "If this happened, why wasn't the world destroyed before?" Simple. 1. Termina is a different land completely. If the moon fell on it, it wouldn't destroy everything, just Termina, as is stated in Majora's Mask. 2. What if the occurrences in Termina occurred because Child Link came back? How many were thrown out of Hyrule for treason? Twinrova was, Ganondorf was sealed away, whose to say others didn't run away as well? Maybe the Happy Mask Salesman left? Maybe that's why he went after Majora's Mask? Maybe the peace allowed him to search for it, while Ganondorf's reign wouldn't allow such a thing?

That's about it ^^ Feel free to post with your reasoning, but once again, I don't want "ALttP occurs after TP." I want "ALttP occurs after TP because " understand? Try to make your reasoning as logical and thought out as possible. If it's "The hat!" it's not logical, and there's no reason to point to A HAT as a reason why a game occurs before everything else.

All images used (c) Nintendo
Background (c) my friend, Leon
I don't remember where I found the Zelda font, so don't ask ^^"

DOWNLOAD FOR FULL VIEW! (download is 4500x2000)