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It's an all-too common occurrence on my periodic forays into the world of internet poetry - writing weakened by a lack of fundamental knowledge concerning the essence of poetry writing. There are no rules set in stone about creative writing. The writer that strikes new trails can make a lasting impact on the world of poetry, but the chances of a writer stumbling upon golden words without a solid knowledge base are slim to none. The following tips for novice writers are intended to help shore up those fundamentals, to help the young writer breathe the essence of life into their poems, and to better share that essence with the reader.

The most important element you can inject into your poetry is imagery.  Imagery is made up of sense data: color, sound, smell, temperature, the feeling of physical contact.  When we remember anything with any vividness, we remember in images.  When we fantasize or hallucinate, it is in imagery.  Our dreams are made wholly of them.  Just ponder the word imagine for a minute.  Remember a particularly painful argument you had with someone in the past.  Do you remember only the words spoken, or can you close your eyes and picture the person's face, or details of the scene of the incident, or the harsh edge of their voice?  Maybe a breeze was blowing.  Maybe there was a siren in the distance.  Or maybe it happened in the kitchen, over the phone (which felt hot against your ear), while you absent-mindedly rearranged the magnets on the fridge.  These are the kinds of things you should include in your poetry to enrich the experience for the reader.  Try to avoid the use of abstract imagery or cliches.  Our senses note only particulars: we don't see color, we see red, or green, or yellow.  We don't just touch, we touch something.  We smell hamburgers, curry, hot tar, pine and lilacs.

If you think poetry is about "self expression," "emotion," or "the truth," then you are missing the point.  It is about well-written expression and emotion. The truth is inconsequential.  Before you hop up and down and debate me on this point, allow me to elaborate.  A lot of novice writers labor under the misconception that poetry stems from deep emotional truths and therefore all poetry must comply with "the way it really happened."  The act of poetry writing is a creative writing exercise.  Without the creativity, you are merely writing a report.  Breaking it into stanzas doesn't magically transform the report into a poem.  It's nice when poems do correlate to the truth, but quite often I find weak stanzas in poems and, after suggesting a change, I am told "but that's the way it happened."  Ugh.  If a poem could be improved by altering your past reality (at least on paper), then go for it.  If you broke up with someone on a sunny day but rain would better suit the mood of the poem, make it rain.  Make it night instead of day.  In poems we can have the courage that we lack in real life, we can ride off into the sunset, or be wealthy, or poor, or dead.  Imagination and creativity count for as much in poetry as they do in prose, painting, sculpting, screenwriting, business, recreation, and virtually every other human endeavor.  If you still feel like it is necessary to stick to the truth, then I wish you success.   But you'd better start living one hell of an interesting life - at least one a lot more interesting than mine, and mine thus far has been pretty damned interesting.

Words are incredibly powerful - not just for the meanings associated with them, but for their shape, their sound, their length, and the way they fit together.  Take note of syllables and vowel sounds.  Multi-syllabic words or long vowel sounds impart a connotation of fluid movement.  They have a way of softening the impact of language and are often used to show compassion, tenderness, tranquility.  Short words and vowel sounds can be used for emphasis or punctuation, and often show rigidity, honesty, toughness.  Single-syllable words can go off sharp like the crack of a fist, or as slow and round as the blush of a rose, depending upon the type of vowel sounds chosen.  Don't forget about the impact of hard and soft consonants - re-read the previous sentence to see what I'm talking about.

Never shy away from editing and revision.  Some young writers feel that to revise is to kill the spirit of the poem.  Again, this practice serves to sacrifice the potential of a poem for an ideal that really has nothing to do with the poem or with poetry.  It's a romanticized myth.  A skilled writer can revise a poem many times without the revisions being apparent in the final draft.  All writing should seem as if it flowed from the writer's mind, or soul, directly onto the page.  The process should be regarded as secondary to the finished piece because, after all, the reader sees only the final piece, not the struggle or ease that went along with its creation.  Does anyone seriously believe that Keats, Yeats, Wordsworth, Frost or anyone more contemporary never underwent the revision process?  Extant manuscripts prove otherwise.  Hell, Frost reveled in revision.

After your poem is ready for submission, what follows is an essential lesson: Disassociate your ego from your poem.  Workshops are often brutal and scathing affairs.  If you bring in a poem to which you have some kind of emotional attachment, when the critiques start flying you will feel as if it is you that is being critiqued, not the poem. You will feel hurt and insulted.  In the wake of this you will lose sight of the purpose of the workshop: the poem.  If someone shreds your poem, they are not making any judgment on you, but rather the poem.  If you can disassociate, you can learn.  And learning is something we should never refuse to do.
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Comments: 195

redflame13 In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 22:46:55 +0000 UTC]

awesome. so good to see this posted. high school english ruins so many people for poetry because of the whole "poetry analysis" crap and people think they can just string 3 words together and call it a poem.

also, i'd like to mention, rhyme is NOT a rule! i see soo many people struggling so hard to make rhymes and meters fit that the whole piece feels forced, even if the word choices and the imagery are perfect. if it flows out in rhyme, great. if not, and you can't seem to make it without a ton of struggle, don't bother. free verse is your friend.

another tip: if you hate it now, leave it and come back a few days later. you'll either like it after all (this happens to me *all* the time) or you'll see more clearly what needs to be fixed. much easier than struggling obssessively for hours and just getting frustrated.

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tifli In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 22:26:25 +0000 UTC]

WOW. thank you.

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pedr0b [2005-01-22 22:20:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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SteelVenom [2005-01-22 21:59:48 +0000 UTC]

lol I've never quite thought of making a tutorial on how to write poetry....if i did it would probably look like this. You really did cover all the things that most people seem to fight so hard-like editing, stretching the truth and giving poems imagery. I would reccomend even going one step further with the imagery section and reminding them that a poet can connect with not just 1 form of imagery, such as sight, but FIVE of them.

Be it sound-"Their clanging clamor through the cold"
Sight-"A time for black, a black like night"
Touch-"The pound that reverbrates through town"
Taste-"In bursts of mint they/ Explode..."
Smell-....

Lol I tried to look through my work to come up with these forms of imagery-but I couldn't find or think of anything I've written with smell!!! It's good you did that tutorial because I don't think I use one of the 5 senses in my writing-which is pretty sad. I'll have to change that at least by Monday...

I'll take a look at the poetry you've written, (can't resist after reading this) why not take a look at some of mine? Actually I had fun reading through mine looking specifically at imagery, these two being the funnest to read in that context.

[link] "The Circle of Death"
[link] "This Shattered Soul"

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CELTICPRINCE In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 21:51:56 +0000 UTC]

This was a wonderful read. brought up several good points in writing wether it be poetry or prose. the more descriptive the better, give your readers a very vivid picture in thier minds. and the writing will seem like a master piece. leave it vague.. and its not going to stand out like a light in the midst of a hazy darkness.

like the break up on a sunny day. so what if it happaned that way. the writer im sure felt like the sunny day had turned into the gloomiest and darkest day ever, and the readers would pick up on that if worded properly.. maybe like

" we were basking in the warmth of the noonday sun untill your evil deed was done, you tore my heart asunder and now I face the dark storm clouds of emotion that rings with a tormenting thunder."

the best written piece but works a lot better then a generic "it was sunny when we split up"

so many good tips in this, I plan on refering memebers of order of bards to this set of tips and guidlines

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YumeNezumi In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 21:13:58 +0000 UTC]

This is awesome, I've been writing poetry for years, and I so agree with all of this. I hope a lot of novice poets read this, cause it will do them well. I'll have to pass this around. ^_^

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RoninGaleria [2005-01-22 20:44:07 +0000 UTC]

i enjoyed the read of this, especially the 3rd poem, i try to stress a lot of these things to people but some may never understand, oh well, i am just pleased to see a feature on some of the stuff i wish more people were aware of.

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been-training-dogs [2005-01-22 19:57:26 +0000 UTC]

cheers, that's really helpfull

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RealMenThink [2005-01-22 19:30:07 +0000 UTC]

indeed. thanks for writing this.

hhhmmmm


much of this place
i think it can be said
has de-evolved.
like a hairy palm
but especially
the poetry section.
its used to be insight
not spite
or repression
so may i just make a
somewhat
humble suggestion?
perhaps we should live
our lives loving questions
rather than sobbing for answers.

so you suffer a bit?
i have too!
just sever attachments
and live for right now,
divide numbers in fractions
you'll see love in
cow pastures
both city and country folk
got love master-blasters
the universal factor
it's synchronization
it's a unified statement
it's... poetry.

i question you fools
that keep frontin' and fakin'
instead take a deep breath
and enjoy it's sensation.

(its crappy for a reason, to proove sutures excellent points)

peace

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dramian In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 18:54:50 +0000 UTC]

very helpful and informative. thank you for taking the time to write and post this.

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RaitheDragora [2005-01-22 18:49:24 +0000 UTC]

I agree with a lot of points you make, but I'm surprised you raise the point about weather. (I know it's an example of a problem, but it's a debatable example.) When relationships are stormy, so is the weather. Too many people put that particular example together on their own, and it's become cliche by now. But perhaps we've been reading different poetry. I'll admit that some people have no sense of atmosphere. A breakup in the sun sounds like it has the virtue of being unexpected, and intensifying the pain or shock. The expectation of a great day dashed, and misery a darkness within the mind, everyone else bright and cheery. But I haven't read the peoms you speak of. Is that overdone as well?

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YumeNezumi In reply to RaitheDragora [2005-01-22 21:11:28 +0000 UTC]

I agree with what you're saying about it being unexpected. But that's something, I think, that poets have to choose whether to put in there. If you write a poem saying that it was so sunny, you never saw it coming, this thing that broke your heart, that works as being unexpected. But if you're just stating how sunny it is when it happened, then that just doesn't necessarily work.
At least, I think that's what he was saying. That's what I think, anyway. ^_^

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RaitheDragora In reply to YumeNezumi [2005-01-22 21:34:51 +0000 UTC]

I see, well that makes more sense than my interpretation. Yeah, random bits of information aren't too useful.

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the-hyrax-lord In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 18:05:33 +0000 UTC]

There are a few good points in here, especially towards the latter few paragraphs, but I found the language used was often (mostly in the earlier paragraphs) a little too...flowery, as if you were just enjoying your own skill as a wordsmith rather than getting across your point. Personally, I'd have gone for a more straightforward approach, especially since this is aimed at 'novices'.

Anyway, I'm babbling. A nice attempt to help people improve their writing, certainly. Let's just hope it has some impact!

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CELTICPRINCE In reply to the-hyrax-lord [2005-01-22 21:41:46 +0000 UTC]

i believe it was ment tobe "flowery" as an example

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the-hyrax-lord In reply to CELTICPRINCE [2005-01-22 21:45:49 +0000 UTC]

I did think that, but at the same time, while it's quite a neat idea it does detract from the reading of it as a 'guide'.

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Makatsu In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 18:01:22 +0000 UTC]

*eats some cheese*
what about measure? any tricks for that? im not too good at measure... look at my poems if you want

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turbopat [2005-01-22 17:48:50 +0000 UTC]

it was really smart to post something like this. good job...

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Char-Izzi-Elle [2005-01-22 17:03:39 +0000 UTC]

That is brilliant, and I think that it will help me a lot (I don't actually put up any creative writing pieces on dA, but it helps me appreciate other people's work.) I think it's time for a fav...

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Aviusaura [2005-01-22 16:05:07 +0000 UTC]

This is really well-written, which isn't surprising thanks a whole lot for writing this. Despite being a young writer, I hopefully don't fall into the category you mentioned a few times, but I've still definitely learned from this. Thanks, and congrats on the DD!

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sky-fire [2005-01-22 16:04:31 +0000 UTC]

thank you!
this really is stuff writers need to know

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Byrnjolf [2005-01-22 15:55:51 +0000 UTC]

That was the most helpful list of poetry tips I've read. Congrats! If it were mandatory to read this before posting your first poem on DA, I'm sure we would get a lot less angsty-whining-about-how-nobody-loves-me -and-that-girl-said-I-was-stupid poems.

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all-things-will-end [2005-01-22 15:45:34 +0000 UTC]

i really liked that you did this cuz i no that even though i do a little poetry i think it could be strong and these pointers could help a lot. and i think that good lines could go to waste if not properly put in a well written poem. thanks for posting this!

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SanguinarianLover [2005-01-22 15:43:17 +0000 UTC]

This is a much-needed add to the halls of Deviant-ART. Good job. I can't help the feeling that you are...hmm...a bit elite-ist? Especcially from the preview image. That's not good, considering you talk about separating your ego from your work. Still, you get a fave because people should read this.

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zingamaroo [2005-01-22 15:20:21 +0000 UTC]

thank you for making this

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Memorial In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 15:10:44 +0000 UTC]

This is a good idea!!! ^^ A think a lot of people will benifit from this:::

But one should note, overuse of metaphors and similes that aren't subtle can be annoying as well -_-;

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DeirdraChaeli In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 14:53:13 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for writing this! I get tired as well of those writers who can't seem to branch out, take criticism, or use their talents to create beauty over truth. Thank you very much for voicing this.

~Deirdra

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mornmeril In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 13:39:42 +0000 UTC]

agreed. all the way! Hope SOME DApoets will learn something :3 I dun consider myself poet, still, there is a lot of good advice in there.

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somestrangebirds [2005-01-22 12:30:42 +0000 UTC]

Largely sound advice.

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demonlight In reply to ??? [2005-01-22 11:06:03 +0000 UTC]

The act of poetry writing is a creative writing exercise Thank god for you.

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Jade-Pandora [2005-01-22 10:35:31 +0000 UTC]

i'm glad i ran across this piece for the ideas it puts forth for us, the readers. my main thing has always been traditional art, however, i write poetry as well and am untrained. i don't comment here for attention in hopes of anyone that sees this go to read any of my written works so they can tell me what's right or wrong or of import or potential because, like i said, i'm mainly a traditional artist. i just thought i'd compliment the you, suture the author, for the clear & concise piece.

i'll never consider myself a seasoned artist or writer, but a novice 'til my last breath, so writings such as this will always be useful and never go out of season or style.

Thank you, and take care...

jadey

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robidoux In reply to ??? [2005-01-20 21:54:00 +0000 UTC]

many thanks.

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BlackPlanet [2004-12-31 06:21:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Aelpheus [2004-12-10 15:47:15 +0000 UTC]

wow. you're like the next horace.

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Tatsel [2004-11-26 20:41:10 +0000 UTC]

This is absolutely amazing. I've been writing poetry, going to workshops, and receving critiques for years... This is by far the best interpretation of poetry I've ever seen.

Congratulations.

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inziladun [2004-11-11 21:45:21 +0000 UTC]

This isn't just for novices, it should be a reminder that poets of all backgrounds and experiences should look back on and recall every once in a while. This is a wonderful look at the very nature of poetry. I especially loved the emphasis on words as entities, as being extremely powerful; that is something I have realised in the semi-recent past as well, and it's really what made me so interested in minimalism. When every word counts for something, then why couldn't few words count for a lot?

We smell hamburgers, curry, hot tar, pine and lilacs.

And the tips themselves are poetic; how meta-ironic. This was a lovely, lovely read.

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TheNightHeDiedInside [2004-11-04 20:55:00 +0000 UTC]

hm.......

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Legelda [2004-11-03 05:57:23 +0000 UTC]

That was great.

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Iwon1 [2004-10-07 19:12:50 +0000 UTC]

Noted.

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gypsyend0rphin In reply to ??? [2004-09-29 14:09:53 +0000 UTC]

Some really good pointers, great essay.

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nicetry-badluck In reply to ??? [2004-09-21 13:47:49 +0000 UTC]

great advice and very eloquently written as well..

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block10 In reply to ??? [2004-08-14 09:10:50 +0000 UTC]

bravo, great job +fav

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shebadapuddytat In reply to ??? [2004-07-15 08:30:09 +0000 UTC]

Ok, I am SO grateful for this... Primarily I am a visual artist but I have found myself often putting words into my work and have come to realise I REALLY need to learn about writing because I truly know nothing about it. I was sick a lot through school and though I've read quite a bit, I don't actually have much understanding at all about ... anything.

Anyway, this all struck me as pretty basic and obvious... yet still important for me to be told it so that I am conscious of it.

I wonder perhaps if anyone could recommend any good steps to understanding writing... in general I guess... for a total beginner?

And, thankyou for this!

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Thormodor [2004-07-02 22:31:30 +0000 UTC]

Well put. I think i got a few pointers out of this. If you could i would appreciate you looking at my gallery and commenting.

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okpixel [2004-05-23 09:51:44 +0000 UTC]

i've been writing for 9 billion years
still, this is quite useful.

enjoyed this muchly. clearly written. thanks. luv the vizual too.

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corrupdisc [2004-04-24 00:36:39 +0000 UTC]

"In poems we can have the courage that we lack in real life, we can ride off into the sunset, or be wealthy, or poor, or dead"

If there isn't already "an Idiot's guide to Poetry" (which I really don't think there is), you should write it. I will defend this statement with the fact that, as informational as your submission is, it is written in a poetic manner (like the above quote, a great line). A 'poet's guide,' as it were, would be severely lacking without a poetic tone. So, I congratulate you on this noble attempt at helping.

one thing...could we address the necessity of spelling? there are some who really need it...and if everyone is going to use your page as seriously as the number of comments suggest, maybe you could revolutionize the art of internet poetry! Poems without spelling errors, that make sense! What a world it would be

and, if you want to openly criticize and not offend (or are addicted to devart and bored), go ahead and tear my poems apart.

thanks again for good things!

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pixiepain In reply to corrupdisc [2005-01-22 21:32:42 +0000 UTC]

Ah, but where would we be without the 7million *cough* poets *cough* (goddamn this tickle in my throat...) who think that the words are spelled "deth" "despeir" "blud" "gothik" "paiyn" and "mizunderztood"? How would all the under-appreciated, rebel 14 year old Slipknot fans show their extreme emotions and depth without sixteen exclamation marks on every line, and ending every stanza with "shut the f!!k UP! U dnt no mi payn!!!!!!!!1111oneone"?

Oh the great and monumental loss to the world of poetry!

Note to self: one day the slipknot fans are going to rise up and bash your head in for being an ass. End Note.< /small>

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pixiepain In reply to pixiepain [2005-01-22 21:35:04 +0000 UTC]

Next note to self: Do not attempt to use html and watch 'Speed' at the same time. End note.

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DeviousDefiance In reply to ??? [2004-04-21 13:36:34 +0000 UTC]

This is really good.

I'm actually disappointed that I didn't come across Suture earlier, but I suppose everything happens for a reason. Me finding this place can only mean good things.

I consider myself a good writer, but even I have learned - or at least was greatly reminded of the essentials of good poetry - from this article.

Excellent.

~ Def

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kwazo In reply to ??? [2004-04-10 13:20:33 +0000 UTC]

Good advice, *claps

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