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RhodoKnightmon from Digimon and Reshiram from Pokémon. You may ask why I drew them together. One reason is that I -once again- got bored of people who deeply hate either one of the monster franchises. Another reason is that I've wanted to draw them together because of their similarities. And now don't look at their outer appearance only.- At first, both are technically genderless monsters...
- ...but their appearance is very feminine. Reshiram was even designed purposefully to look feminine, and just look at Rhodo, pink slim thing.
- But. In anime (Digimon Frontier especially) Rhodo was a he. Masculine pronoun was used, and of course, he had low male voice. His name also can be transliterated as LordKnightmon. Reshiram is based on masculine yang (remember that his original species is White Yang Pokémon). And now, in very new Pokémon 14th movie trailer, Reshiram spoke - short sentence but that was enough, he has a clear male voice. Besides both monsters' voices sound awfully same......
- Regardless of masculine features, many people call them "she". (Rhodo was even dubbed as female in US version of Digimon Frontier.) And in both case, I look with mean eye at people who call them females. I don't care what people think about any other official characters' genders, but these two are not to call a she. He or good old it but not friggin' she. (Sorta personal bugbear...)
- Not to forget that outer appearance. At least both have high heels (yet some other kinky design details). And shiny Reshiram has golden collars and pink flames. Both are seen with somebody clearly masculine looking one (Dynasmon, Zekrom)....and both have kickass power.
- And of course, I like both critters a lot. |3
So yes. Why to fight if you can actually have some tea with sophisticated talk.
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Bah ha ha, I love how sophisticated Reshiram looks! xD
Pokemon is, and always will be, my life. Screw the haters.
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there is one major difference between them... reshiram confused a ditto for another reshiram somehow of opposite gender despite the genderless factor, and now has tto look after the illegitimate child we know and love as baby reshiram.
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Lugia is genderless as well but a real baby Lugia was seen in anime.
As well all digimon are technically genderless, but in show there has been mothers, fathers, sons and daughters.
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i know, but it seems odd. how do genderless things have gender specific rolls? its confusing. (like inception)
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FFFFFF YEAH, CRUSADERMON!!! : DDDD
He/she doesn't get enough attention. It seems that Digimon are very gender-confused...
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'Crusadermon' is good example what dub does for pink knights who should be males...censor, censor...
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Yeah, I saw him/her in some original non-dubbed episodes, and I wish he'd stayed male. :< So much more badass...
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Poor Reshiram...he can't fit on a chair
I havn't heard about Rhodomon b4. Is it a new Digimon, or aren't they in the ds series?
awesome art btw
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Well, RhodoKnightmon (who also has been called LordKnightmon, LoadKnightmon (dub) and Crusadermon (dub)) made his debut in Digimon Frontier in 2002, so he has been around a while.
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Your digital shading style looks really nice :< Especially for Rhodos armor. (No I wont try to think now how he drinks that tea... x>)
Tea drinking is better than fighting. At least since most people will figth in comments about "what is better" as well and I don´t like that 8P So rather let´s have a nice cup of tea~
To be honest I don´t belive in genderlessness of legendaies anymore. Pokémon wanted to teach us first that legendaries are unique but failed as they showed a baby Lugia in the Anime. Lugia and genderlessness = lie? :<
You also can breed Manaphy even thought it is genderless. So either legendaries DO have genders (not all. I don´t think Arceus -for example- has a gender) or Pokémon are the first biological critters that can breed without genders.
*Shrugs* And to be honest I don´t care if anybody calls articuno now a he or a she. The only thing that really bothers me are those “This looks feminine so it IS female”-acting. Let masculine women and feminine men (or monsters) be what they are B< I already face palmed once America turned the feminine part of a gay couple in Sailor Moon female… but Rhodoknightmon was just worse. There wasn’t even any “gayness-that-could-hurt-poor-children”-thing but simply “Is too feminine to be a man”. Screw your racism. Can´t stand it.
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(Why people comment my "let's just throw some colours and shade it" -colouring like it was good... |D )
Yes, the baby Lugia...and of course, all digimons should be genderless but we have seen mothers, fathers, sons and daughters.
... But many genderless not-legendary pokémon can breed with Ditto so...is everything caused just because of those suspicious Dittos? <_<
Maybe that one-sided thinking made me defend these two monsters a bit more than others (Articuno has had neutral appearance for me about always). People seems to think that fluffyness or pink colour is girly. B< ... Should make a stamp that "Pink is manly colour" or something. Because (referring from [link] that is in Finnish but I translate this sentence): "Bodybuilders gain 10% more muscular mass if training room is pink."
I've seen that fact elsewhere too, seems like it is true.
No wonder people have low tolerance against homosexuals if media censors everything related to it. They don't see it anywhere and then don't learn that it could be possible. Kids accept new things much easier, and could learn that why not, that is possible too. So US censorship makes things just worse.
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Omg we totally need that pink stamp. There aren't enough stamps about pink on dA. xDDD If you don't make it I will. :>
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Ditto is such a thing anyways... I still wonder how MACHINES do breed ._O" Pokéworld please tell us what your metal-Pokémon are. They are confusing.
...Maybe a trainer used action replay to create the Baby Lugia?
... And today I got a baby Palkia on my DS. Looks normal but was created from Arceus from a pink egg and is now at LV.1. Even legendaries started as Babies D:
Digimon breeding makes more sense. Datas and Datas create a new file. It´s fine to me. On the DS games you can create an egg from a MetalGreymon and a Punimon. It clearly is data breed x>
So maybe even Cutemon did only breed with datas and have different identification genders. COULD be. Aging was already there in Tamers so that doesn’t change much.
Even thought Digimon said (almost) everything has no bio-gender it is easier to understand to me than Pokémon x> datas can have own logic. But those Pokémon are complicated :/
And Digimon Xros wars brought us too many human Digimon. That Booby-MONSTER in new opening scares me ._o” That doesn’t have anything to do anymore with “copying human world”
No tolerance against Homosexuals makes only sense in two cases: 1) Religion (because there is no possibility to argue against it) and 2) Human species is about to die (Hahah-ha. Laser-gun Aliens first please)
Everything else is less logic and less intelligence. “Disgusting” is no argument (Stay away from Hetero couples then too), it isn´t natural is a comment only people without ANY knowledge about animals can give and every time I hear a Atheist saying “The nature didn´t mean it to be like that” I feel like replying they please should go back and pray to god. “The Nature” doesn’t exist. That´s just a synonym for God with capital G again. Pft. So intolerance against homosexuals = failure of a pathetic religion that is still on the level of medieval or less knowledge/intelligence.
Not to mention people STILL don´t get that femininess or masculiness doesn´t decide the sexuality. RHodo is a narcissist anyways and even IF Digimon would be any sexual he still could be straight. Acting is a bit feminine but mainly arrogant and narcissist. America is full of Homophobes who don´t even know what Homosexual does mean. (Means you >can´t< even know who is Homosexual and who is not…) I can´t explain it any different why they NEED to do such ridiculous changes in children shows.
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Ditto maybe knows how but nobody has ever dared to ask...
Same theory with digital...data can be easily cut, copy and paste. ... I thought that female digimon in Xros Wars was Minervamon but now Wikimon says she's Mervamon (sorta ripoff of Minervamon anyway). ... And no, I don't know why those balloon boobs (fanservice for male watchers I guess).
Even more weird is that not even fictional characters survive from censor. Tsk.
Now I refer to my mom, who's not religious but doesn't completely understand homosexuality. Her point is that "isn't it meant to be that female and male are together?". Somewhat biological thing and true if you think that. ... But then, there are exceptions who profer same gender. It's in brains how individual feels and usually unchangeable. Problem is when these exceptions are not allowed because of random reasons. Religion is often THE problem and causes hate (my mom for example just thinks homosexuality is weird but doesn't hate it.) ... I honestly can't say any sure things about Rhodo - except that he's great character, that ATTITUDE is just one of a kind. |3
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Both names give same google results. Urgh. But when comparing Opening design and minervamon - yes they look alike a lot.
...Which makes no sense since 90% of male Digimon watchers prefer cute girls/deep personalities/strong attitute or simply a rare style (Lilithmon for example) rather than "Must have big boobs" ¬.¬ Maybe japaneese fanboys are more boob-fixated or it simply is a failed prejudice. At least that Digimon doens´t immitate humans, rather hentai girls I guess, brrrrrrr.
Sure it is meant to be like that by biology, for breeding, but since people like to compare themselves ALWAYS to frggin animals, I can say "Why shall we be "better" if we are worse all the time anyways?". Animals act homosexual too and nobody says it is wrong, unnatural or call it an "exception". Because they aren´t. It is normal and it had been normal for humans during old better ages too. Religions and Nazis had better ideas of ideologies which stayed until today (but nobody would admit they are still under the influence of those so called ideologies). They never have been exceptions and never will be, no matter what DNA has planned the brain does what it does. The "exeptions" are rather those who have pernament (pernament means not acting different under "emotional influenced", drunken or other bad conditions either.) straight sexuality, prefer objects, animals, children, nothing or do other out-of-common laws things |>
…just a shame Rhodo couldn´t show of his personality during Savers 
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Reshiram and Zekrom talk?
Far out!
Now I can't wait to see what Kyurem's voice will be like!
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Yes they did. And destroyed places as any good big legendaries should.
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Oh, those ladies!!
I feel bad for rhodo...I think he don´t even know what his name is anymore xD...Much dub changes for him D:. In the spanish dub he was called Lordknightmon,but in other dubs he´s also Loadknightmon or something like that.The thing that shocked me when I saw Frontier again was that Dynasmon´s name was also dubbed D:!! He was called "Dinoyumon".
They seem to have a very relaxing and entertained talk, I wonder what they´re talking about...Umm and I want those cookies ò..ó
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Tea and cookies hard to argue that one.... lol
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I've always greatly admired your art, especially your pieces of Reshiram as it is truly one of my top favorite Pokemon for design and symbolism, and you just draw it so magnificently and gorgeously.
This piece surprised me a little as I'm used to seeing a lot of your art be traditional, but you're just as great with digital art as any other medium, always something pleasant to look at~
I also tend to read the artist's comments of anything I look at, and reading your points was certainly a jolt to turning the cogs. And please don't think me too rash saying, but I personally found your peeve of the he/she/it business a tad frivolous. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong to have such a peeve, oh no, everyone to their opinions and such, but as far as Reshiram's case, I don't see what is so bad for people to associate it looking feminine or referring to it as a she.
The fact it has a male voice in the movie I'll probably associate it more as a male or remaining genderless, but I wouldn't let someone else calling it a female bother me. I can certainly understand your irk with the Digimon dub making RhodoKnightmon a female, but Reshiram I guess I'm on neutral ground. You're of course welcome to your preferences and cup of tea, but you had such a detailed comment I couldn't help assuming you wouldn't mind my posting my two cents too much.
I truly do love the art and hope to continue to see more from you.
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The first reason for digital was that my colours are about 120 km elsewhere from me.
It seems like you took that more seriously than I. It's true I don't like when these are called a she, yet I'm not going to wish death for those ones who think so. Relax and have a cup of tea.
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Well I'm glad either way as your art is lovely in both mediums.
I've merely noticed that you have pointed out the masculine vs feminine bit several times in other works and assumed it was a topic you held a rather strong opinion on, I didn't really mean much by it. And I wasn't inferring that you were lashing out in anyway to "wish death" on others. I didn't realize I appeared apprehensive or defensive in my own comment to warrant being told to relax, either. I'd apologize but I suppose you'd think me callous for it.
I hope you have a nice day.
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Another digital work 
The most I like is how colorful your pictures are(all of them, not just this) and... you know, sometimes members could say something
nice to another members for good general job 
May I know what did you do in the lines? you got good lineart there
I agree with you on the dubbed stuff by the way.
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Lines are just by photoshop and a pen tool.
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LOL - This is adorable. Tea time with the monster franchises!
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I would enjoy to take part that tea party.
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Lol Reshiram's so refined with his cup of tea 
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Good teabreak is always better than senseless fight. |3
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Transvestisuus = Muoti Japanissa. (Ainakin mitä itse olen käsittänyt)
Suurin osa länsimaissa asuvista ei tätä ymmärrä ja liittävät sen heti trasseksuaalisuuteen, joka on (kas kummaa) erittäin tabu tai arka aihe. Tästä johtuu se, miksi suurin osa "maskuliinisista hahmoista femiineissä varusteissa" ovat naisia sen sijaan - jotta se mukautuu heidän kulttuurinsa mukaan, jota on helpompi seurata ja saada selville. (Ainakin median mukaan, jos näin katsotaan.)
En tiedä tosin, kuinka moni japanilaisista miehistä näkevät pinkin värin tai miesmäisen leidimäisyyden "kannattavana asiana", koska meidät ja vähän muutkin maalaiset katsoisimme sitä hieman häpeän huvittuneena (joka täällä ilmenee sitenmiten kiusauksena).
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Jos multa kysytään niin miksei kaikki (friikit monsterit mukaan lukien) sais olla just niin transsukupuolisia kuin huvittaa jos niitä huvittaa. Mähän olen aika "ihansama" noiden ns. valtavirrasta poikkeavien sukupuoli-identiteettien kanssa enkä ees tajua että miksi se on joidenkin mielestä niin kamalaa tai just arka aihe.
Sensuuri on silti tympeää. On se kumma kun ei fiktionaalisetkaan hahmot saa jäädä ennalleen.
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Sitä en taas tiedä. Yhdysvalloissa se on selvää liiallisen stereotyypillisen "god this god that" -paskan takia.
Yhdyn tuohon mitä sanoit: "On se kumma kun ei fiktionaalisetkaan hahmot saa jäädä ennalleen." Vaan harvemmin törmään hahmoihin, jolloin voisin sanoa että "Oikeastaan hänen pitäisi olla tällainen".
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A very nice picture. I usually call most things "it" since for one, English dubs mess a lot of things up and two, boys can look feminine if they want to. But, other than that..As I said before. Very nice picture.
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"It" is always good and doesn't hurt anybody. To feminine males - my favourite characters are too often somewhat feminine looking males...and monsters.
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That's fine though. It's still a character and it is bound to have some problems on weather or not it's a guy or girl(To other people). But all characters need to be loved no matter what. Though..For some reason when it comes to Mewtwo, I refer it as a he..(I'm not sure weather to call it an it as it sounds too male for anything..Sorry that was random.)
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I suddenly kinda want to imagine how a female Zekrom would look like. D:
Urr...anyway. I'm surprised at how you actually analysed similarities between them..I would never have realised how similar they were (then again I usually only look at appearances). <3
But I'll be honest and say I never really saw Reshiram as feminine for some reason..well it's white and fluffy and stuff but it always gave me a manly feel, lol.
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Well, I would have called Reshiram a he from the first sight but Finnish has not gender divided pronouns... x>
Anyway, Reshiram as well as Rhodo really has something manly in their whole appearance. Eventhough we can see it, many many people seem not to see wholeness and judge them by minor things, like colour and fluffyness... <_< (If you ask me, white is the masculine colour...)
...Zekrom also had male voice in that movie trailer...yet I don't have any problems if people call Zekrom a she. |3
I analyze really weird things. But at least it looks like that. Another theory was that creators of both wanted a transvestite monster (that sounds rather tasteless yet not completely irrelevant...)
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Haha..I don't know about Reshiram, but Rhodo definitely looks like it was meant to be some feminine looking guy..if I were to say without watching the show or anything, I'd immediately think it was female xP Of course I think it's due to all the pink and ribbons...
But it's hard to unsee that they're male after..hearing their manly voices |D
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From Bulbapedia: "According to Ken Sugimori, Reshiram has a light, airy, ladylike design to contrast to Zekrom's tough and manly look."
So-o-o.....yes.
Fluffyness is manly...as well as pink colour. B<
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Ohh..they actually reversed the whole yin-yang thing xD But Zekrom's whole techno design definitely goes better with black I think...
I used to be a young squirt who thought everything pink was girly and disgusting D:
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great piece! and yeah beside their looks are pretty feminine they're MALES ^^'
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Wow! I really like this! And I agree with all you said U_U
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Teabreak beats battling anytime.
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that would be the greatest tea part ever... and rhodoknightmon becomes crusadermon in the version i watched it was given a female voice
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