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thirty-six years ago today...the case of roe v. wade changed america forever, ruling
the genocide of innocent preborn children as a
constitutional act.
since that day, over 50 million tiny, voiceless children
have been slaughtered in its name.
thirty-six years ago.
how is this still going on?
there is no pro-choice.
the baby has no choice in his or her death; why should
the mother? after all, aren't we all created equal?
and if a choice truly must be made, it should be made
before the point of conception. not after.
give them a voice.
overturn roe v. wade.
it's a child, not a choice.
credit...
pregnant woman silhouette: [link]
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Comments: 290
t-writes-poems In reply to ??? [2010-05-02 21:48:57 +0000 UTC]
"People like me," huh? You don't even know who I am.
If you are going to make assumptions and insult and attack me, I refuse to have a discussion with you.
As for who am I be to God's activist... That's all part of being a Christian, honey. God wants us to share Him with others in whatever ways He directs us.
Have a nice day.
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Hervilleville In reply to t-writes-poems [2010-05-02 22:07:25 +0000 UTC]
You can't speak for God, because you don't know God. You don't know what He wants, and you can't pass judgement on other people, because you are not God. Yes, I do know who you are. That poster you made, says it all. I don't need to assume anything. You are yet another cookie cutter "Christian" who forgets there own sins, because they are so focused on the sins of others. I'm pretty sure God would not force a rape victim to carry her rapists child. That is strictly for sadists only. Funny how you didn't mention the site I gave you. Huh, maybe you actually read it and saw that you have no biblicle stance whatsoever. Have a nice day.
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t-writes-poems In reply to Hervilleville [2010-05-02 22:16:18 +0000 UTC]
You just proved my point that you don't know me at all. You don't know anything I've been through, you don't know about my relationship with God, you don't know about my struggles with sin. So just stop. I am assuming nothing of you, I am not passing judgment on you, and I ask for the same respect from you.
I do know God. That's what being a Christian is about - knowing God. Being in relationship with Him. Just because I try to carry out the will and the purpose He has spoken to me doesn't mean I am judging others. I do not judge people - I love, just as God tells me to love. I love everyone, or at least try my hardest, because that is the example Christ set, and God is love. You are judging me right now, though, so I'll kindly refer you to Matthew 7:3-5. Assess yourself before you criticize another on what you merely assume to be their flaws.
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Hervilleville In reply to t-writes-poems [2010-05-02 22:33:50 +0000 UTC]
I don't respect any pro lifers, because they have done nothing to deserve my respect. There is a difference between having a relationship with God, and knwoing exactly what He wants. Since you know him so well, tell me exactly what He wants. I disproved every verse you gave, and more. You have no biblical stance, so you can't possibly be defending His will if it isn't even His will. It is in the Bible that a woman's life, a real live woman, is more important than a clump of cells that aren't even living yet. And that is the truth. You are pushing what you feel is right, and you try to make it seem valid by pairing the Bible with it. And what I said earlier is that you are a sinner, and even though you may be recognizing that fact, when you point out other peoples flaws and errors, you are ignoring your own. It must kill you to know that you are just as much a sinner as a woman who has an abortion.
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t-writes-poems In reply to Hervilleville [2010-05-02 23:21:23 +0000 UTC]
I know full well I'm as much a sinner as an abortive woman. Everyone is an equal sinner in God's eyes. The fact that you pick and choose which of God's children to respect based on whether or not they agree with you is quite a questionable position for a Christian to have. Christ loves and respects all, no matter what they believe. Shouldn't you follow that example?
I don't claim to know exactly what God wants - I know only what is in His word and what He has spoken into my heart. With everything else, I trust Him to guide me.
I am not going to discuss the abortion issue with you because you will only attack me further, no matter what I say. I don't play those games, dear.
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Hervilleville In reply to t-writes-poems [2010-05-02 23:36:07 +0000 UTC]
And His word clearly states that a fetus is not a life, and the mother's life is more important than that of a fetus. You still have not addressed all those verses that clearly disporved your argument, and I think you just realized that, and now you have no argument. It is not a child, even according to God. If not even God considers it a life, neither will I. Great, now I see that you will never see the truth, because you hear "God" in your head. Lost cause.
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t-writes-poems In reply to Hervilleville [2010-05-02 23:54:09 +0000 UTC]
God's word does not say that an unborn child is not a life - it shows that God is compassionate and caring about the unborn, unlike the stance of the pro-choice movement. Anyone can twist the verses of the Bible any way they want, but His meaning is still there. I suggest you go back and read it - you may have more than a few things to learn.
I'm done here. God bless.
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Hervilleville In reply to t-writes-poems [2010-05-03 03:06:08 +0000 UTC]
Did you even read the site? You didn't, did you? Yeah, you're afraid of actually reading the rest of the verses that prove you are wrong. That's not twisting it, which is exactly what you did, that's a literal translation. And that site actually cited the whole verses, not just the parts that "fit" your argument. I read it, and reread it, and obvioously you didn't, and you made that very clear. Nice to know that the cookie cutter Christian still can't think for themselves.
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t-writes-poems In reply to Hervilleville [2010-05-03 03:41:34 +0000 UTC]
Still hurling insults, I see. This is why I'm not addressing the content of that site. I did read it. But no matter what I said to you regarding it, you'd insult me on completely irrelevant grounds. Maybe if you were a bit more respectful (and Christlike?), we could have a mature discussion/debate on the matter. But you've chosen immaturity. I'm finished.
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Hervilleville In reply to t-writes-poems [2010-05-03 03:51:17 +0000 UTC]
You're not even Christlike, so don't even try to tell me to be like it. And you can't think for yourself. You've made that clear. Want to know how? You cannot think of any reason other than biblical, which aren't even valid btw,for women to not have abortions. You also claimed that science has proven that human life begins at conception, which is one hundred percent false. It's not an insult when it's the truth. You aren't addressing the content of that site because it proves you wrong, but you won't admit it anyways.
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Lalalalala1000 In reply to ??? [2009-02-10 22:02:29 +0000 UTC]
By science, life does not begin at conception.
"A living thing has the ability to adapt"- actually, a fetus does not have this ability. Which is why premature babies have such a high death rate.
The book states that is a choice- not necessarily the right one.
Anyways, my point is this:
the ability to choose is more important than the choice. You can restrict abortion so that the careless numbnuts who get pregnant out of stupidity can't get abortions, but don't take away the right completely.
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EuphoricFantasy In reply to Lalalalala1000 [2009-02-11 00:23:31 +0000 UTC]
Fetuses perhaps have the ability to adapt greater than any being; it starts from nothing and develops everything it needs in only nine months, something it took evolution billions of years to do. And the evolution is practically the definition of adaption on a massive scale.
Saying premature babies arn't alive because they die when being taken too quickly out of the fetus is like saying fish arn't alive because they die when you take them out of the water.
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EuphoricFantasy In reply to EuphoricFantasy [2009-02-11 00:25:04 +0000 UTC]
Oops, mistyped XD I ment "when taken out of the uterus"
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t-writes-poems In reply to Lalalalala1000 [2009-02-10 22:37:46 +0000 UTC]
By science, life does begin at conception.
There is only so much adapting a living thing can do. Premature babies are just that - premature. They're not quite ready for such a different environment yet, still familiar with their mother's womb.
But if adapting's your case, then why do people die of cold or overheating or what have you? Are they not alive because their body couldn't adapt to an unfamiliar environment?
Alright, then, let's not take away a man's "right" to rape a woman. Let's not take away a parent's "right" to abuse and neglect his or her child to death. Let's not take away a person's "right" to kill another. Sounds like a pretty fucked up law system to me.
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Lalalalala1000 In reply to t-writes-poems [2009-02-10 23:14:00 +0000 UTC]
People can adapt; they are alive.
Fetuses will die without a mother; they are not alive until the second trimester.
That's not what it means; you're obviously not understanding.
Are you for the banning of books, out of curiousity?
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t-writes-poems In reply to Lalalalala1000 [2009-02-10 23:19:51 +0000 UTC]
Not in extreme situations.
They do not just *magically* come alive at a certain point of their development. They're alive from the moment the sperm meets the egg.
And they'd die without their mother? Infants would die without their mothers. There are plenty people dependent people in this world. What about people on life support? Are they not alive? People hooked up to machines to keep them alive after a terrible accident; are they not life, either?
And what does that have to do with abortion? O_o
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Lalalalala1000 In reply to t-writes-poems [2009-02-10 23:24:54 +0000 UTC]
You're right. It's not magic, it's science.
The thing is, they were alive, are alive, because they were alive before they went on life support.
Just curious. Generally, certain views go hand-in-hand.
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t-writes-poems In reply to Lalalalala1000 [2009-02-10 23:31:32 +0000 UTC]
Science and the grace of God, both of which declare life at the moment of conception.
And children are alive before the first trimester. What about people dependent on medication to keep them alive? People who have depended on that medication all their life? Are they alive?
Judging people based on their belief on one issue. Not fun. That has nothing to do with anything.
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Lalalalala1000 In reply to t-writes-poems [2009-02-10 23:33:25 +0000 UTC]
As I already said, you clearly beleive I'm somebody else, and I am ending this discussion.
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BabyxFirefly In reply to ??? [2009-02-08 04:02:31 +0000 UTC]
I don't agree with you. At all.
But I must comment on a very nice piece of artwork. I like the contrast and composition of it.
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t-writes-poems In reply to BabyxFirefly [2009-02-08 04:08:30 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry you don't agree, but thank you so much for the compliment and being mature about it. I appreciate it.
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Somethingg-Epic In reply to ??? [2009-01-22 17:56:21 +0000 UTC]
<33 very well made, great points. i was just thinking though, that it's sad that you had to make this, that people couldn't just...get it. but amazing job <3
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SaskiaDeKorte In reply to ??? [2009-01-22 11:26:12 +0000 UTC]
what about women who are raped?
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LindseyBerg In reply to SaskiaDeKorte [2013-05-16 23:00:46 +0000 UTC]
Two wrongs, don't make a right. There is adoption...It would be the most un-selfless act ANYBODY could do. But it's the right choice. It's never the babies fault.
And BTW absolutely LOVE this! Great job!
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SaskiaDeKorte In reply to LindseyBerg [2013-05-17 07:32:19 +0000 UTC]
I had to look up what this was about (wrote that comment in 2009), but I hope you read the rest of what I said...
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Dylan-the-dude In reply to SaskiaDeKorte [2011-07-31 02:45:39 +0000 UTC]
In the case of rape, incest or Life at stake, The mother can abort the child IF there are signs her life is in danger. These things actually can hurt the mothers phycological health and the baby's! If the mom might die, the baby might too!!!!
ONLY use it to save lives, not birth control.
Also, i'm prolife too. So I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.
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t-writes-poems In reply to SaskiaDeKorte [2009-01-22 11:35:28 +0000 UTC]
And may I also add that rape cases only make up 1% of abortions in America.
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t-writes-poems In reply to SaskiaDeKorte [2009-01-22 11:34:56 +0000 UTC]
Just because a crime was committed unto someone else doesn't give that person the right to kill and innocent being. Rape is a horrible, terrible thing, but killing a child won't do anything to help that situation - if anything, it will only make the situation much worse. And besides, if she gets help immediately, there are plenty of things hospitals can do to prevent the sperm from meeting the egg, therefore preventing conception and preventing pregnancy without harming a living being.
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Stenellya In reply to t-writes-poems [2010-12-06 11:19:16 +0000 UTC]
Women who get raped and decided to abort don't do it to "punish" the baby, as he/she is innocent (as you said). It's not her/his fault if the father was a monster.
However, those women are worried they could never love the child and never give him/her the love and respect which is needed.
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t-writes-poems In reply to Stenellya [2010-12-12 00:50:18 +0000 UTC]
And that is where the option of adoption comes in. There are plenty of people in the world who will love and respect that child. There is no justification for having that innocent child killed.
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languagefan123 In reply to t-writes-poems [2011-06-04 21:04:37 +0000 UTC]
Whenever the pro-lifer knows they are losing, they play the adoption card.
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t-writes-poems In reply to languagefan123 [2011-06-04 21:18:44 +0000 UTC]
There's no losing, and there's no card that's being played. It's a point, and a very true point at that.
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languagefan123 In reply to t-writes-poems [2011-06-04 21:38:22 +0000 UTC]
So you're saying that every child put up for adoption GETS adopted ?
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t-writes-poems In reply to languagefan123 [2011-06-04 22:38:27 +0000 UTC]
I'm not saying that adoption is a flawless system, because it's not, and I understand that. It should be improved upon, because there are families out there that do want these children but have to struggle through the system. Adoption systems should be improved - I support that whole-heartedly. But the issues with adoption are certainly no excuse for killing an innocent human being and taking away their gift of life and not giving them a chance. Every human being deserves to be alive, and that is that.
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languagefan123 In reply to t-writes-poems [2011-06-12 11:36:51 +0000 UTC]
I'm not saying that the flaws in the adoption system are the only reason to consider abortion, what about rape victims, cases of incest, a woman not being able to carry/birth a child, being underage, or simply wanting to go through with a pregnancy they do not want only to birth a child they will never see again.
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zillahderigeaud In reply to t-writes-poems [2010-07-08 07:40:04 +0000 UTC]
Sorry but as a pharmacist I really have to disagree with your statement about "there are plenty of things hospitals can do to prevent the sperm from meeting the egg, therefore preventing conception and preventing pregnancy"...It only works within a certain 'short' timeframe and not everybody is able to get to a hospital/doctor in time...
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SaskiaDeKorte In reply to t-writes-poems [2009-01-22 12:24:41 +0000 UTC]
Yes, you're right. I find abortion a very, very difficult matter. I've spend a lot of time thinking about it, and I still can't decide what is best. There are so many reason not to kill an unborn child, but I can imagine some women not being able to support a child, to give it a good and safe home, and a future, and things like that. But as you say, adoption would be an option :3
I've always been pre-abortion, because I think women should have the right to make that choice, but I despise people who remove their child because having it would be inconvenient.. I myself, if I were to get pregnant, would keep the child, no matter how 'inconvenient' it would be at that time.
It's so difficult =/
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t-writes-poems In reply to SaskiaDeKorte [2009-01-22 16:54:32 +0000 UTC]
It is a difficult issue, yeah, and that's why so many people are uncertain about it and that's why the media just ignores it.
And I personally believe women shouldn't have a right to abortion anymore than they should have the right to go out and shoot someone on the streets, because it's all murder, the way I see it. The only exception I could see is if the woman's life is in danger and there is no possible way on God's green Earth to save both mother and child. But that's pretty rare - the "inconvenient" excuse makes up about 93% of all abortions, which is really heartbreaking when the child could be given to a wonderful and loving home.
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