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Description Now usually when i make a post talking about the JP franchise, I use the "dino asset-files" talking about how the dinosaurs of Isla Nublar/Sorna behave, how much of their genetic code was altered by Ingen Scientists, and how they compare to their original counterparts.
And more recently I've started showcasing "native animals" that used to/current reside on Isla Nublar/sorna.
But for this post, I've decided to try something very different...

Or rather, make another return of something special....
in other words, it's time for another session of
JP QUESTIONS/WHAT IF!
where you can submit questions about the JP/JW FRANCHISE that I can try to answer in the best way I can....(depending on the complexity of the question)
(Note-These charts will not be as common as the asset files/native animal "files", as I would need to think about how to structure an answer to said question.)

and for this post, I've decided to go a little ambitious here and make a bit of speculation/"prediction" of what might occur in these next few years
How the might adapt to their new home, how they might interact with humans/native wildlife and most importantly, just how far, some species might be able to migrate.

I'd call this JURASSIC AFTERMATH: POSSIBLE MIGRATION PATHS (PART 1 NORTH AMERICA)

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS MAINLY JUST FOR FUN SPECULATION....
Obviously, since the next instalment/chapter in this story is not due to arrive for quite a long while, there is no certainty on how this migration might go specifically Not to mention, (as some people have pointed out) there are SEVERAL factors that could likely effect the outcome in many varying ways, whether they be hunting/capturing the creatures, the circumstances of genetic power or some other story-related element that we have yet to see. Point is, what you are seeing here is just one possibility that might occur from June of 2018 to the June of 2021, and I’m just using the “worse case” scenario as just a rough basis of what to consider when speculating what could happen...

now, this chart I've been working on for a long while, simply because a LOT of factors had to be addressed, it involved a LOT of different creatures and it involved several different environments....but before we get into it, let me just explain what it even is.

you see, after I saw fallen kingdom, I was really happy with how the ending was basically setting up a "paradigm shift"
how we were now heading into a world where humans and dinosaurs now have to coexist....
how the infamous "genetic power" that had brought them back had now become WIDELY open source, allowing ANY genetics-company the ability to make a dinosaur.
how the consequences of what happened over 30 years ago are FINALLY being put into play.
(this awesome aspect about where the story's headed inspired people like me and FieryCarnotaurus to come up with our own little little hobby-projects

mine being the "jurassic aftermath" series/mini-contests- www.deviantart.com/taliesaurus…
and FieryCarnotaurus with his "New Era" pictures-www.deviantart.com/fierycarnot… )

And i also loved how the story also left us with nearly HALF of the "saved" dinosaurs escaping the lockwood manor and stampeding into the dense woodlands and mountain wilderness
and I did double takes on those scene, trying my best to get a rough gauge of just how many there were.
From what I can gather, the ones that stampeded out of the lockwood estate include the following:
-one Tyrannosaurus rex (Rexy)
-one "IBRIS-raptor" (Blue)
-five triceratopses (six if you include a baby trike)
-at least two or three apatosaurus (maybe more if there are infants)
-at least four or seven parasaurs
-somewhere between fourteen or twenty-five compies (very likely more than that)
-at least Four or five stygmoloch
-somewhere between sixteen or twenty gallimimus
-two or four carnotaurus
-at least five stegosaurus
-at least four or six ankylosaurus
-at least three or four allosaurus
-at least four sinoceratops
-at least three or two baryonyx
-at least three captured pteranodon
-and at least two subadult nasutoceratops that we know of (the origin of which is still pending)

and while there ARE indeed the limiting factors to consider, like military groups (sent by either the government or rival genetics-companies similar to biosyn) sent to kill or more likely capture several dinosaurs, I'd thought it'd be fun to consider what one of the "worse case scenarios" could be.
Like if
1-action was taken too late (because nobody instantly believes dinosaurs were on the mainland),
or

2-if nobody who was sent to hunt the dinosaurs has ANY IDEA of just HOW MANY there are because there are no useful tracking devices to find the dinosaurs with and that there's MANY places that especially the small dinosaurs could hide.

both of which are ENTIRELY possible.
in fact, Shinobi-03 made a few good videos that kinda address this idea.
here's links to them if you want to have a look.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSLU9…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9vb3L…

but if you don't feel like it then allow me to explain my favourite points that he makes.
points from the video: "Fallen Kingdom Explained: Dinosaurs Free on Earth? + Bonus"

it may be no surprise that the bigger dinosaurs are slightly easier to spot and to contain, but on the other hand... there are indeed factors to consider that may make the "rounding up" a lot more difficult than it may initially seem so some people.

FIRST MAJOR FACTOR: The circumstances of their escape.
ALL the dinosaurs were released IN THE MIDDLE of the night, into a VAST area filled with dense woodlands, lakes and mountains, an environment that is fairly easy to hide in, unless certain curious individuals venture to close to urban areas.

and many of them were prefer to stay in the habitats they are most familiar with, regrouping into herds, feasting on the vegetation/local fauna and even beginning to breed again
(but i'll get to that in a bit)

SECOND MAJOR FACTOR: the authorities were completely obvious to the event when it occurred.
None of the characters (so far as we know) had called or addressed the authoitites to alert them about the situation.
and its EXTREMELY unlikely that any of the auction dealers/attendees told anybody, unless they were willing to confess to having been a part of a black-market.
That means, not only might it have been hours, days, weeks or even A FULL MONTH (or two) until the first random civilian encounter out in the woods...
but we can also easily assume that the majority of the police didn't take these calls seriously, thinking that might be prank-calls/hoaxs.
and just to clarify, YES its a world where JW is public knowledge, but even in that world, NOBODY is going to believe that SO many dinosaurs are on the mainland THAT quickly.
ESPECIALLY after the news of mount Sibo erupting, and destroying/killing all that was left on the island. (minus maybe the pteranodon)
point is, to 95% of the public at that point in time, the dinosaurs are pretty much extinct again!
And just to add to that point, WE ALL know how easy it is to fake videos and photos on social media, so it would be perfectly normal if man people (at first) didn't believe that dinosaurs were actually on the mainland. Maybe for a very short bit of time, they might associate these sightings with those of "bigfoot" or "wendigo".
some might assume that the "observer" was mourning the death of the dinosaurs and were "holding out hope" in their muddled imagination.
and some might brush it off as just local animals exaggerated and distorted to look like dinosaurs.
unless somebody got a CLEAR visual on a dinosaur, (and I mean REALLY clear) and filmed it with a good camera.
or if it was somebody who knew what they were looking at (like a wildlife photographer etc) then they might start to believe that there's more than just one or two in the wild.

meaning that even if, by the time dinosaurs on the mainland become public knowledge, it might already be too late to locate them all and "round them up"
example: from one movie prior, you had the indominus rex, who was INCREDIBLY difficult to locate, because she didn't have her tracking implant (and this is without mentioning her camouflage abilities) eventually they resorted to tracking her by the smelling sense of another dinosaur and bare in mind, THAT WAS A VERY SMALL JUNGLE on an island that's merely 22 square miles large. The wilderness of north America (including the vast forests, and mountain scapes) are FAR MORE difficult than that. and though SOME of the dinosaurs still have their tracking implants, they are pretty much rendered USELESS at this point (due to being both out of range of the island and the facilities made for tracking them being DESTROYED by the volcano)

THIRD MAJOR FACTOR: THEY CAN BREED! (there might be MORE than the expected number)
what I mean is that whilst large dinosaurs that came in singles (like rexy) are relatively easy to capture/contain, the REAL dilemma comes from those species who came in groups.
especially the VERY small and very hard to notice ones like the compsognathus. Put it this way, the tyrannosaurus rex is VERY easy to locate and capture.
the bigger problem comes from (ironically) the smallest dinosaurs, as many of them are too small to catch and came to the mainland in multiple groups (likely far more than what we saw on screen) and given their ability to change sex like reed frogs and reproduce, then they'd easily be able to breed into large numbers, leading to a very big infestation and a real invasive species, just like how they were in the novel.

and it's not just limited to the VERY small dinosaurs as ALL ingen dinosaurs have that ability to reproduce (colin trevorow even conformed it)
including the medium to large dinosaurs, as seen by the baby triceratops in the movie (if anybody trying to say it came from the petting zoo, it's clearly too young to have been born during 2015, which was a full three years before we see it, meaning it very much was born in the wild)

and many of these dinosaurs (specically the herbivores) can reproduce with multiple individuals and have multiple clutches/nests and in these nests, depending on the species there can a LOT of hatchlings that thanks to their small size, could easily hide from detection, unlike their parents.

this can be very true for such dinosaurs like the apatosaurus.
as from fossil records, we find that though they aren’t exactly the best at caring for their young, they used a very turtle-like method of laying as many eggs as they could whilst at the same time dividing them into multiple clutches scattered around well hidden parts of the wilderness.
this mean that, in theory, you might have one apatosaurus be the mother to 50 or maybe 100 babies at a time, carefully concealing them in the deepest parts of the forest, for them to hatch out, and then begin to feast on the local vegetation, grouping together for protection. and whilst a few might die to local predators, diease, or other things, those babies could eventually grow large enough to form their own herd, not have to fear anything and then have babies of their own. (this is made all the more interesting, given that ingen gave their assets an accreted growth rate as to be more “park appealing”. giving the dinosaurs a slight advantage along with the sex-change thing.)

and all of this is without considering the faint possibility of something called
PARTHENOGENESIS
which basically is an scary option for female animals to reproduce without needing a mate. (komodo dragons can reproduce both sexually and asexually)
it’s unlikely that any of the ingen dinosaur have that ability, but it’s still a scary idea to consider.
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with ALL these factors put into place...
I then constructed this complex chart showing all the possible ways in which these dinosaurs might spread out over the north american continent
with as few limiting factors as possible. (not that there aren't people trying to film/hunt/capture/kill them but this just talking hypothetically.)

I was thinking about doing how each indidvual species would adapt to the new environment on their own but after a while I just felt UTTERLY exhausted.
so I carefully used this chart to show the rough direction I could imagine the dinosaurs going...
I added in their initial population (based partially on the rough estimate I made of those that escaped)
I then used the fossil record to get an idea of how many eggs each type of dinosaur would lay per clutch.

and as you can see, aside from th pteranodons, I kinda predict the compys having the BIGGEST impact.

I hope you lot appreciate it
and also...

QUESTION:based on this idea, how could you imagine these animals adapting to their new environment?
How might they cope with the winters....
and what kind of strange "jurassic aftermath" scenarios might you lot be able to think up with this?
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Comments: 196

Taliesaurus In reply to ??? [2019-10-29 14:16:17 +0000 UTC]

lol

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MysticSunrise87 [2019-04-03 17:27:52 +0000 UTC]

Here's hoping JW 3 addresses this. It has too in some way.

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Taliesaurus In reply to MysticSunrise87 [2019-04-03 17:47:25 +0000 UTC]

it likely will.

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Bonnerscar In reply to ??? [2019-03-06 17:46:37 +0000 UTC]

What are there locations.
Example: Redwood Forests, Great Plains, Everglades, Californian Wilderness, Rocky Mountains or any other locations.

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Taliesaurus In reply to Bonnerscar [2019-03-06 18:05:42 +0000 UTC]

can't say for 100% certainty....
that's why the disclaimer's there.

but if you're asking, according to this map (at least)

compy: spread throughout most of the use in all environments. (but especially well in the tropics)
carnotaur and stiggys: traveled northwards to the coniferous season forest of southern canada.
baryonyx and sino: in the rockies
Paras: slightly south of the rockies
triceratops: southern california 
allos, gallis, ankys, stegos: mostly in the great plains (as well as parts of northern texas and southern canada).
mosasaur: roaming the pacific ocean
pteranodons: anywhere they can make a nest along the western coast (though not really limited there)

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Bonnerscar In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-03-06 18:43:10 +0000 UTC]

Really? The Triceratops and Sinocertops post to migrate to the great plains.
I hear that 7 Pachcephalosaurus were rescue , 1 was sold at the auctioned. The rest were migrated to the rocky mountains. And the Stygimoloch should travel with there cousins to the rockies. (like bighorn sheep and mountain goat like to hang out there.)
5 Dilophsaurus were saved and migrated to the everglades. And the parasaurolphus and baryonyx should have migrated to the everglades as well. (plus the Spinosaurus if it were saved and didn't go extinct, AU)
3 juvenile Brachiosaurus were saved and migrated to the redwood forests. As well the Apatosaurus.
And finally, do you know the location of rexy and blue?

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Taliesaurus In reply to Bonnerscar [2019-03-06 18:51:24 +0000 UTC]

7 Pachcephalosaurus: are you sure they weren't all sold?

5 Dilophsaurus: where was that? I'm pretty sure they went extinct.

3 juvenile Brachiosaurus: we don't know that for certain (hence why I didn't include them)

rexy and blue: somewhere in california I assume.
rexy likely is the easiest of all them to capture.

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Bonnerscar In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-03-06 19:18:50 +0000 UTC]

1 Pachcephalosaurus was sold, the 6 were roaming the rocky mountains. www.deviantart.com/tyrannosaur…
For the Brachiosaurus - www.deviantart.com/tyrannosaur…
5 Dilophsaurus - www.deviantart.com/tyrannosaur…

And looks like one Pachyrhinosaurus was saved and probably release with the other dinosaurs.

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Taliesaurus In reply to Bonnerscar [2019-03-06 19:23:43 +0000 UTC]

that's HC stuff.
we cannot say if that's true for certain yet.

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Bonnerscar In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-03-06 19:46:21 +0000 UTC]

And when you say rexy is likely capture, we don't know for sure.

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Taliesaurus In reply to Bonnerscar [2019-03-06 20:02:14 +0000 UTC]

indeed but given she's the only one of her kind, she not so hard to track as say the compies

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Dylan613 In reply to ??? [2019-02-02 19:22:44 +0000 UTC]

Hi, how is part 2 (Eurasia or Africa) going?

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Taliesaurus In reply to Dylan613 [2019-02-02 19:45:45 +0000 UTC]

still working on it.

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Dylan613 In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-02-02 19:49:57 +0000 UTC]

Ok, thanks for letting me know! ^_^

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Taliesaurus In reply to Dylan613 [2019-02-22 17:10:32 +0000 UTC]

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KILLIANFREDDY In reply to ??? [2019-01-28 01:50:48 +0000 UTC]

10 to 20 eggs per clutch .. YIKES!! That could be a lot of allosaurs

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Taliesaurus In reply to KILLIANFREDDY [2019-01-28 14:10:34 +0000 UTC]

and it was in a mound of earth instead of s traditional bird-like nest.

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KILLIANFREDDY In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-01-30 00:37:37 +0000 UTC]

More protection to the babys

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Taliesaurus In reply to KILLIANFREDDY [2019-01-30 00:49:10 +0000 UTC]

indeed and less obvious

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KILLIANFREDDY In reply to KILLIANFREDDY [2019-01-30 00:38:29 +0000 UTC]

For

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Taliesaurus In reply to KILLIANFREDDY [2019-02-22 17:10:44 +0000 UTC]

huh?

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mkps111669 In reply to ??? [2019-01-19 04:20:47 +0000 UTC]

this is so cool

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Taliesaurus In reply to mkps111669 [2019-01-19 14:21:41 +0000 UTC]

how so?

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abrahan-quispe In reply to ??? [2019-01-17 23:20:05 +0000 UTC]

But the lake where baryonyx inhabits is salty, perhaps baryonyx can survive also in salt water?
with regard to Winter How it was said, the dinosaurs are warm-blooded or thermoregulatory so I think they would migrate to warmer areas nearby or hibernate.

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Taliesaurus In reply to abrahan-quispe [2019-01-17 23:42:30 +0000 UTC]

1- maybe but it would be anywhere they could seclude themselves.

2- depends on the species.

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Wolfhooligans In reply to ??? [2019-01-16 14:36:02 +0000 UTC]


Now I hope that in JW3 will put forward the parthogenesis "theories that I have since the release of JW"

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Taliesaurus In reply to Wolfhooligans [2019-01-16 14:39:41 +0000 UTC]

what do you mean?

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Wolfhooligans In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-02-22 14:19:15 +0000 UTC]

www.jurassic-park.fr/forum/vie… Wolfrex is me ^^

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Taliesaurus In reply to Wolfhooligans [2019-02-22 17:10:21 +0000 UTC]

i can't read it.

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paireon In reply to ??? [2019-01-15 21:25:17 +0000 UTC]

Personally I'd say that diet could be a potential problem, for the herbivores at least (meat is meat, and animals whose flesh is actually poisonous are pretty rare). Plants today are quite different on the whole from what they were in the Mesozoic, which could possibly make it hard for plant-eating dinos to even digest most modern plant matter, to say nothing of potential allergic reactions. There was likely lots of preliminary work on the islands to plant them with plants that are similar enough that they can eat them properly, such as ferns, though it wasn't a perfect solution; I've always interpreted the digestive problems of the triceratops in the first movie to be du to eating stuff it shouldn't have.

Of course, since the dinos were obviously modified to help them deal with modern pathogens (otherwise merely sneezing on one could kill most of them, and given how advanced genetics are in the movies it's likely cheaper in the long run than to constantly treat them with antibiotics cocktails), it's entirely likely that they were also modified to be able to digest modern plants. Otherwise, regions with colder weather could be bad for them since they mostly have less regulatory systems for their body temperature (very few have feathers/fur) and today's climate is definitely colder than during most of the Mesozoic; the irony being that conifers (AKA evergreens), which many if not most herbivore dinos fed on, are in our day and age most numerous in places too cold for them. That could be dealt with by establishing migratory patterns, and in fact could be quite profitable for them, moving to northern pastures filled with easier to digest conifers in the summer, then going back to warmer climes for the winter.

Of course, the human factor is the biggest problem of all megafauna species since the stone age; it's entirely likely that once discovered, all the species whose adult members are larger than a human adult are wiped out in less than a decade through accidents and hunting/poaching (I imagine the terrifying numbers of Good Ol' Boys whose first thought at the news of dinosaurs on the US mainland will be "Imma git mah gun an' bag me one o' those critters!"). Our stone age ancestors alone are likely responsible for the extinction of many species, such as the Mammoths and maybe even the original North American horses (yes, horses come from North America; some crossed over the Bering land bridge in the opposite direction of humans, and these are the ancestors of all modern horses; those left in North America died out about 7000 BCE IIRC). Compys are definitely the ones most likely to spread everywhere, of course.

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Taliesaurus In reply to paireon [2019-01-15 21:51:35 +0000 UTC]

valid points but....

1- well I can tell you that it's confirmed that the park's animals WERE modified so that they could EAT modern-day plants
including grass (which didn't;t even EXIST during the mesozoic) for we see triceratops/parasaurs/stegosaurs/ankylosaurs grazing on them in gyroshpere valley just fine.

and they only had issues with poisonous plants in the first park because the staff used toxic plants for purely decorative purposes.
and it's confirmed that the triceratops was getting sick from melia toxicity from the poisons plant's seeds on the ground.

2-"today's climate is definitely colder than during most of the Mesozoic"

sorta, but as it turns out, not by much.
in fact from fossil evidence many areas that the dinosaurs did live in cold tundra like climates.
heck the tyrannosaurus native habitat (HELL CREEK) was a temperate marshland/redwood, with highs of 12 degrees centigrade in the summer.
that's actually pretty darn cold.

(you might be valid about the jurassic period, but the late cretaceous climate was pretty much similar to our own.)
so really even if they did have a restricted diet, they'd do just fine in the cold.
heck we even have evidence showing that some ornithopods and ankylosaurs endured the long winters up in alaska, feeding on rotten wood and maggots.
(and last time I checked, ankies didn't have feathers)

3-"That could be dealt with by establishing migratory patterns, and in fact could be quite profitable for them, moving to northern pastures filled with easier to digest conifers in the summer, then going back to warmer climes for the winter."

I could see that being the case for some growing apatosaurs, hadrosaurs and maybe gallimimus.
but the carnivores, the ankylosaurs etc would be just fine in the winter.

4-the difference there is that not only are there people who'd try to PROTECT them.
but there are also rival genetic companies that might make MORE of them.

not to mention that unlike  those megafauna you mentioned, these ones can grow quickly, can have lots of offspring and can change sex, so even if you miss just two of them, that still gives them a fighting chance.

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paireon In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-02-22 20:11:21 +0000 UTC]

Interesting counterpoints; then again that's why I had the caveat concerning their genetic modifications in my post.

That said, I'd like to know your sources for Hell Creek's climate during the late Cretaceous, as from what I've read the climate looked to be closer to subtropical (including palm trees) towards the end of the epoch, and the yearly average for earlier seems to have been around 10 degrees centigrade for the colder periods. Of course, I'm just a dude with a computer with moderate Google-fu skills, so I could be wrong; I just one of the annoying types who like to have proper proof before admitting it (at least I do admit it, though, unlike even more annoying people... ).

Good for the dinos that their reproductive capabilities are so great, potentially terrible for the environment, though; then again, we humans are the absolute masters at screwing that up (them human-modified dinos being an example in themselves). As much as it saddens me, extermination might be the best recourse, and I imagine it could be relatively easy to turn public opinion against them after a few accidental or predation-related human deaths (it happening in a theme park on a remote island is one thing, but on the US mainland is a whole other can of worms). And I'm guessing gene-tech companies in that world have the same regards to ethics and safety protocols as the Umbrella Corporation if they think making more dinos and releasing them in the wild is a good idea.

Of course the main argument in favor of the escaped species' survival is narrative thematic, as the Pandora's box metaphor has always been central to Jurassic Park, and the box has been opened in a big way by the end of Fallen Kingdom...

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Taliesaurus In reply to paireon [2019-02-22 20:29:07 +0000 UTC]

1- SAURIAN is my source on hell creeks climate.

2- maybe but we can't be sure.
even if you wipe out all apatosaurus, the same CAN NOT be said for the fast-breeding compys.

the big dinosaurs might be easy to find, but compys....well they hide in SO many places, even in such places you'd NEVER look.
they eat a wide range of foods, they are VERY adaptable.

besides MANY companies around the world know how to make dinosaurs.
and they likely won't immediately release them.
but mass produce them to the point of their being HUNDREDS of them.
I actually thought up a scenario that goes into how that could work.

would you like to hear it?

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Nintendians [2019-01-15 19:33:55 +0000 UTC]

i could see this happen if left uncheck, if they cost more life to the modern creatures, i don't see why the U.S. would exterminate them.

what about roberta "rexy" the female tyrannosaurus rex? where she going to roam at mostly before finding new source of food?

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Taliesaurus In reply to Nintendians [2019-01-15 19:36:22 +0000 UTC]

1- indeed

2- *shrug*
don't know.

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Nintendians In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-01-15 19:52:20 +0000 UTC]

2. it'll be sad for me if she didn't live a full life and got ended early.

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Taliesaurus In reply to Nintendians [2019-01-15 20:01:08 +0000 UTC]

hmmm

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Nintendians In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-01-16 15:32:20 +0000 UTC]

yep, she been living before jurassic park started too.

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Taliesaurus In reply to Nintendians [2019-01-16 15:48:32 +0000 UTC]

ok.....

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Allorock2 In reply to ??? [2019-01-15 15:12:36 +0000 UTC]

We would never have the Dinosaurs spread out on the mainland if it weren't for Maisie Lockwood. She is one of my favorite characters in the franchise so I don't blame her for what she did, She was under a-lot of emotional stress a child could take in one night, the one who cared for her was murdered, the mother figure who was by her side since birth was kicked out her life, she discovered that she wasn't a naturally born human, and the next person close to her shamed her for being what she is, A savage monster was stalking and wanted to kill her, and also the creatures that were made the same way she was are being killed off for not being natural. Of course she would be sympathetic to them and release them. It might've been on an impulse but she is a child after all. Children are impulsive and don't get wary of what they do until its too late, even if it was for the best intentions and she loves these creatures with all her heart. Plus the dinosaurs were released at night, in an area filled with woods and mountains, an environment that is easy to hide in, unless the dinosaurs ventured too far to reach urban areas.  She and the dinosaurs may be a clones but they're still living beings. It's not her fault in the first place that these creatures have been resurrected by science. If you want to blame somebody, blame John Hammond who started this whole thing in the first place.  This chart is amazing by the way, I love that there were a-lot more specimens than we saw in the film and the Compys are the real threat to people of America since they reproduce extremely fast. I can imagine Carnotaurus adapting in the open plains of South Dakota, Baryonyx swimming in the rivers of Mississippi and Allosaurus living peacefuly in the Hot desert of Arizona. Rexy, Blue, and the Mosasaurus are the last of their kinds so who knows whether they will be left alone or be declared as a global threat and ordered to be killed. 

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whitelighter5 In reply to Allorock2 [2019-01-31 02:04:05 +0000 UTC]

I do beg to differ, I think it was more out of genuine empathy (seeing as Maisie is a clone herself) and wanting to carry out her Lockwood's wish (and her own) to save them.  Why, I'd have pressed the button myself in defiance to let them loose.    Yes, I already know the dinosaurs killed, they're spread out in the USA... but chances are, it won't take long before some rogue team or government expedition immovably determined to rounding up the dinosaurs and take them to the island sanctuary Lockwood intended.


Now for me to sincerely speak out my thoughts, I still say what Hammond did wasn't evil, just misguided. I'm far more likely to condemn people for deliberately allowing murderers and rapists run loose to save money, then bring back dinosaurs. You can't say cloning a living being is unnatural anymore than a doctor trying to cure cancer is unorthodox or playing God.


The only ones to truly blame here are Nedry, Peter Ludlow, Eversol, Henry Wu and that murderer Eli Mills.


Because let's face it, the dinosaurs in the end are merely cloned animals, not some crazed egomaniacs intent on enslaving the world's population.




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Taliesaurus In reply to whitelighter5 [2019-02-22 18:06:45 +0000 UTC]

fully agree

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Taliesaurus In reply to Allorock2 [2019-01-15 15:20:40 +0000 UTC]

and what do you think of the egg numbers per clutch that I found for each of them?

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Allorock2 In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-01-15 15:48:24 +0000 UTC]

I love it, It greatly shows how much offspring they can have whether they are breeding by Changing sex or laying eggs on their own

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Taliesaurus In reply to Allorock2 [2019-01-15 16:01:45 +0000 UTC]

indeed.
and it's given me another idea for a aftermath scenario

involving BABY APATOSAURUSD

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Charlie2210 [2019-01-15 08:59:06 +0000 UTC]

If you want my opinion, I think most dinosaurs should migrate south to escape the cold of the North.

I know they have warm blood, but there is still a risk of hypothermia. After all if they are cloned in tropical islands it's not for nothing.

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Taliesaurus In reply to Charlie2210 [2019-01-15 10:20:24 +0000 UTC]

you do have a very good point.... but....

we have evidence that ankylosaurids endured long winters up in alaska and as far as i remember they don't have feathers...

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Charlie2210 In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-01-15 12:46:07 +0000 UTC]

That's the real dinosaurs.
But I have doubts for those of ingen.

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Taliesaurus In reply to Charlie2210 [2019-01-15 13:43:58 +0000 UTC]

still, ingen did confirm that their animals are warm-blooded.

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Charlie2210 In reply to Taliesaurus [2019-01-15 15:37:37 +0000 UTC]

Okay. I guess having thick skin will be enough to live in the taiga.

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