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UPDATE!!!
My work was among the top three winners of the WoT Japanese Tank FanArt Contest forum.worldoftanks.asia/index.… !!!
And with it the 2000 in-game gold is mine!!!
Turns out I still got what it takes to draw tanks. And now on to more serious things
A platoon of Type 3 Chi-Nu tanks roll through a road past the burning wrecks of a large platoon of American M4 Sherman tanks.
Up to that point in the Pacific War the American tankers had encountered nothing more than tankettes and the inferior Ch-Ha light tanks. This was true during the initial days of Operation Olympic after the largely unopposed Allied invasion of the Japanese Home Islands, and the US Marine tankers were mostly worried about ant-tank squads and AT mines. But the IJA suddenly unleashed their new Type 3 Chi-Nu medium tanks, and armed with the 75mm gun the Japanese had a tank that was a match against the M4 Sherman. Employing surprise and ambush tactics, initial Allied reports thought that they had encountered concealed anti-tank guns. But the Marines that were sent in to deal with these gun crews quickly confirmed that they had encountered a far deadlier tank than they had expected. The Allies had heard reports that the Japanese were developing a new tank, but did not expect these to function or run at all, similar to what had happened to the German's E-series tanks. And contrary to reports the Japanese had a substantial number of these new tanks ready. And the IJA would be sure to employ these to devastating effect.
A little story to go with this for fun, where if despite the atomic bombings the Japanese had not surrendered, if the Russians didn't intervene in Manchuria and Operation Olympic had gone through.
This was my submission for the World of Tanks tank fan art contest worldoftanks.asia/en/news/22/2…
The top three winners could get 2000 in-game gold , so here's to hoping that i win.
Realized it's been awhile since i drew tanks. Aside from doodles.
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johnryan93 In reply to TChenArt [2021-01-18 04:30:26 +0000 UTC]
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cullyferg2010 [2017-04-20 04:58:00 +0000 UTC]
What I've read the IJA kept back these and other tanks for the invasion of the homeland. But the Type 3 did show up in 'Girls und Panzers' towards the end of the series. It was given to a trio of girls who only played tanks online (WofT?) When they finally got into the game against their final opponent, the one who was driving had some troubles with the shifting, ending up putting the Chi-Nu into reverse and took the round meant for the Oarai flag tank. Sensho-do!
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TChenArt In reply to cullyferg2010 [2017-04-20 17:56:59 +0000 UTC]
the Imperial Japanese military wasn't that known for their tank building expertise in WW2, as they invested more onto their Navy and Airforce, ironically leaving the Army without much. Their success with using tankettes and armored cars against the Chinese, who had little to no tanks of their own, meant there was no apparent need to develop and produce better anti-tank/armor weaponry and tanks of their own. The Army was, of course, focused on conquering and controlling as much of China
I think GuP was taking a riff at the complete ineptitude of the Japanese in terms of tank development and employment with the Chi-Nu crew; later further exemplified with the Japanese tank school team who stereotypically preferred to banzai charge like headless chickens and achieve nothing since they were so rigidly inflexible and inept.
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cullyferg2010 In reply to TChenArt [2017-04-21 01:30:02 +0000 UTC]
I've read the Japanese were the first to try combine arms warfare studies back in the early 1920s, long before Guderian came on the scene. The problem with the IJA was Tojo who was a strict traditionalist in regard to the infantry. He wanted armor to support the infantry so the vehicles had thin armor and small guns, since the Chinese had nothing to use against them. But when they ran up against the Americans in their island-hopping progress, it became a case of 'too little, too late'.
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TChenArt In reply to cullyferg2010 [2017-04-21 02:13:20 +0000 UTC]
it wasn't just Tojo, large numbers of the Imperial Army were strict and unchanging in their doctrine, reliant on the blind zeal of the individual infantry rather than bother arming them with anything substantial such as dedicated, personal anti-tank weaponry
it wasn't until they started getting pushed back by the Americans that they realized how technologically deficient they were. the infantry had only some old anti-tank rifles and 47mm AT guns available to them, and those couldn't do much to a Sherman frontally.
the IJA could barely feed and supply their infantry in the far-flung Pacific islands, with inadequate logistics and even medical capabilities, they'd barely be able to use tanks any bigger than a Chi-Ha other than convert them into bunkers.
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cullyferg2010 In reply to TChenArt [2017-04-21 04:32:13 +0000 UTC]
Yes, that was a big problem for the IJA. Their infantry doctrine was based on what the Germans taught them long before WW1. And didn't change one wit until they ran into the Americans, who can go with the flow and change at anytime and at anywhere. That pretty much bedeviled the Germans in Europe as well.
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manchild70 [2015-08-14 17:05:01 +0000 UTC]
World of Tanks. Soon I will have the Chi-Nu . . . yes . . . soon.
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TheDesertFox1991 In reply to manchild70 [2019-01-12 17:52:01 +0000 UTC]
Chi-Nu version BattleGroup42 mod for Battlefield 1942
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cullyferg2010 In reply to manchild70 [2017-04-20 04:58:47 +0000 UTC]
Should I be so lucky to play, I'm taking the Panzer IV, danke!
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manchild70 In reply to cullyferg2010 [2017-04-20 06:40:52 +0000 UTC]
The Pz. IV is a good medium tank.
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cullyferg2010 In reply to manchild70 [2017-04-21 01:47:47 +0000 UTC]
Always thought so. Love the Panther, but the IV was smaller and harder to hit.
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TChenArt In reply to manchild70 [2015-08-15 05:23:58 +0000 UTC]
I didn't really think much of the Chi-Nu when i had it. it wasn't exceptional in most respects. the Chi-Ri is a far more interesting tank later on, and i personally preferred the post-war era Japanese tanks
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manchild70 In reply to TChenArt [2015-08-22 18:37:13 +0000 UTC]
There are some tanks that I have been unimpressed with.
However, I don't mind being one of the underdogs. My fav tank is still a tear I after all.
I first world war Renault is the most historically important tank of all. I made and posted a drawing today.
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TChenArt In reply to manchild70 [2015-08-25 15:44:13 +0000 UTC]
to each their own i guess, unless you're some statpadding puppy kicker
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DarlingOfMyHeart [2015-04-22 10:14:01 +0000 UTC]
Congratz! Very nice! Shermans didn't have a change
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BishopSteiner [2014-10-04 18:41:09 +0000 UTC]
really love the style. Simple palette, but has dynamic energy to the total piece. Excellent!
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TChenArt In reply to BishopSteiner [2014-10-10 09:38:52 +0000 UTC]
thanks, i enjoyed working on it since it was a challenge to bring it alive and also make it look epic. unfortunately, and how as i supposed to know, the Japanese tanks in WoT were painted in a type of jungle green, not the originally intended sand brownish. but this was fun to do, along with coming up with a story for it
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lolhalo33 [2014-06-20 14:02:33 +0000 UTC]
Great job! I'm still on the Chi-Ha But do you mind if I nitpick a bit? I'm not going to say anything bad, I promise XD
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lolhalo33 In reply to TChenArt [2014-06-21 11:44:25 +0000 UTC]
Ehhhh, nevermind. I was gonna say something, but this is an alt. history
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TChenArt In reply to lolhalo33 [2014-06-21 12:36:45 +0000 UTC]
say what? go ahead. it may be alt. history, but because it is alt history it is open for discussion and dissemination
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lolhalo33 In reply to TChenArt [2014-06-21 14:03:40 +0000 UTC]
Well, it would be highly unlikely that Japan would be able to produce more than a few hundred Chi-Nu's, and even if they were effective against Shermans, they would be curbstomped by the Pershing. Don't hurt me DX
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TChenArt In reply to lolhalo33 [2014-06-21 15:49:13 +0000 UTC]
what am i going to use? harsh language? dont worry, this aint the WoT forums
Japan never had the capacity or material to make an effective tank force, and they never saw the need to up till they encountered the M4 Shermans later on. even then they also lacked effective anti-tank guns or infantry anti-tank weapons to deal with the M4 effectively.
while Japan was probably the first Asian nation to utilize tanks in warfare, these mostly started as tankettes and were more than effective against the Chinese. but they soon found their tanks outgunned and outperformed by the Soviet BT tanks during some of the border clashes. but despite further developments, the Japanese focused more on developing their navy and airforce.
flahsforward to the Pacific War, the Japanese are on the defensive, and are losing ground slowly in the face of the American's island-hopping. campaign. the Japanese while being among the most industrialized nations in Asia, faced a similar problem with Germany in that they faced material and supply shortages, their factories could not replace losses as quickly whilst being bombed and their industry was not properly geared for a long term war economy. the last part is often overlooked in history classes and books, but is quite significant. unlike the US and USSR, which managed to transition their industry and economy to aid in the war effort, Germany and Japan did not make these changes effectively, and the additional disruption by the Allied bombers and submarines made it even worse.
the Japanese tank industry was never geared for war, and even then they lacked the know how to make effective tanks. the Chi-Nu was made as a response to the Sherman (how effective these would be is doubted) and had significant problems.
regarding the Pershing, while these would undoubtedly be more than a match for anything the Japanese could throw at them in terms of tanks, the M4 Sherman was more than enough for the job and was reliable and dependable, unlike the Pershing which also had some issues. Japanese tanks were regarded as such a low threat that Sherman tank crews used HE instead of AP shells against Japanese tanks, as AP would punch straight through the tanks, such was the ineffectiveness of the Japanese armor.
i do apologize for rambling on, not being sober has that effect on me.
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lolhalo33 In reply to TChenArt [2014-06-22 04:31:09 +0000 UTC]
Lol, it's fine XD. People get mad at me for saying stuff like that
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ColonelBSacquet [2014-06-11 14:31:05 +0000 UTC]
"And contrary to reports the Japanese had a substantial number of these new tanks"
By the time the US armies were almost physically-speaking at Japan's door, Japan had already been critically low on any kind of supply for quite a time, with it's navy, military or commercial, mainly sunk, it's planes mainly shot down, it's most valuable pilots mainly killed. Not to mention it's factories bombed to dust day in, day out.
So, at the time of operation Olympic, the Japanese would have never, ever enough of those Chi-Nu to make more than a small dent in the US onslaught. Not to mention air dominance over Japan by Japanese Air Forces was already long gone. So no CAS or air cover of any kind for Japanese tankers, once they would fire the first shot and get spotted.
I know this is uchronia, but this is utterly unlikely.
Not to forget that bot many Japanese military and political top-brass, even among the most-hardcore, would have wanted to dare the American to drop another nuke.
But well, other than that, the drawing is top-made. Congrats !
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TChenArt In reply to ColonelBSacquet [2014-06-11 16:02:54 +0000 UTC]
This is all fictional and just made up, as we will never know how well these functioned along with other experimental weapons that never came to fruition or use, such as the aforementioned German Entwicklung series, and also how Operation Olympic would have panned out. This is all just speculation, which is always a fun topic to delve in.
As was obvious by that stage in WW2 the Japanese didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the war. The most they could expect and plan to do was to inflict as much casualties on the enemy to the bitter end.
And the Allied planners were right in expecting high casualties in the invasion of the Japanese Home Islands. This is evident enough on battles fought in Saipan, Iwo Jima and Okinawa. And those are just smaller islands compared to the Home Islands. Imagine the scale and toll it would take to secure each island.
And while the Japanese didn't have air superiority in those island battles, they didn't need it to inflict so much casualties on the US forces. The Japanese would often fight so close to US lines that it would often negate the air support the US forces had for fear of hitting their own troops.
I wouldn't expect the Chi-Nu to be able to have done much to change the outcome of the battle for the Japanese Home Islands. Like the Tiger in Europe it was produced too little and too late to make an impact. But these would still have an effect on the battlefield as they could, theoretically, engage the M4 Sherman effectively. But as was the case in Europe, tank vs tank engagements were rare, and the majority of the Allied tank casualties there were due to the Pak 38 and Pak 40 crewed anti-tank guns in well positioned emplacements. And while the Japanese had few effective anti-tank guns and weaponry, they would employ other tactics such as mines, satchel charges, booby traps and tank killer squads.
And do not doubt the resolve of the Japanese to defend their home. They would be expected to do whatever and use whatever to fight to the bitter end for their emperor. This wasn't going to be like fighting the Wehrmacht, where both sides still fought with some...civility. And the US Marines are well aware of that fact. Backed against a corner, with nothing to lose, expect them to fight hard.
Thanks nonetheless
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ColonelBSacquet In reply to TChenArt [2014-06-11 16:52:29 +0000 UTC]
"This is all just speculation, which is always a fun topic to delve in"
Yep. Totally.
"Like the Tiger in Europe it was produced too little and too late to make an impact."
The quality of the Panzer VI Tiger I and Tiger II, as well as the Panzer V Panther, even decreased as the war was nearing the end.
Just to name a few, faulty gearboxes and transmissions, armor that was brittle, comparatively to the first models, which were made when Germany was still at her best.
"And do not doubt the resolve of the Japanese to defend their home."
I wouldn't.
"Thanks nonetheless "
You're welcome.
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Maxtheboss2 [2014-05-21 22:55:16 +0000 UTC]
I love that tank on World of tanks! Nice job man! This deserves a !
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TChenArt In reply to Maxtheboss2 [2014-05-23 10:47:23 +0000 UTC]
ironically, i just got the Type 3 Chi Nu, and i.... i don't hate the tank, but i don't really like it either
thanks all the same.
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SirRinge [2014-05-19 08:26:04 +0000 UTC]
Haha... Holy crap, so it WAS your art. I was looking at it when I saw that post a while back being like "That looks really familiar..."
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TChenArt In reply to SirRinge [2014-05-23 10:43:42 +0000 UTC]
guilty as charged
where did you see it posted at, the forums?
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SirRinge In reply to TChenArt [2014-05-23 22:14:41 +0000 UTC]
Yea, on the forums and on their main page when the contest happened. Nice man
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XLegion-716X [2014-02-26 20:43:35 +0000 UTC]
Hell yeah, dat Chi Nu! ^w^ This was one of my most favourite tanks of the Jap line, the top obviously being the STB-1...I after finishing the line, I'm even thinking about buying back the Chi-Nu o.o
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TChenArt In reply to XLegion-716X [2014-02-27 00:18:16 +0000 UTC]
i haven't reached that tank yet, i'm taking my time with the Ke-Ni. but i do have the Chi-Nu-Kai, whats the difference in gameplay between the Chin-Nu and Chi-Nu-Kai?
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XLegion-716X In reply to TChenArt [2014-02-27 04:48:17 +0000 UTC]
Chi-Nu has a tiny bit more fire rate than the Kai, but has a bit less turret armor at the cost of faster turning speed. They're really the same tank in most cases, but I just love the Chi Nu for being a fairly good Jap tank ^w^ either I'm rebuying that or I'll buy myself a Chi Nu Kai, not sure yet
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TChenArt In reply to XLegion-716X [2014-03-01 04:14:11 +0000 UTC]
The Chi Nu Kai is alright, good for crew training since most Jap tanks are medium tanks.
The gun is adequate for its tier, accurate with good DPM, though gun depression is lacking, and while it has good speed the acceleration is slow. The front turret armor is troll at times, but it's height means the copula is vulnerable. It's more of a support medium
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XLegion-716X In reply to TChenArt [2014-03-01 04:46:56 +0000 UTC]
Yeah its pretty much like the original Chi Nu then, so if your used to the Chi Nu Kai you'll love the Chi Nu then
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TChenArt In reply to XLegion-716X [2014-03-02 04:15:20 +0000 UTC]
And if you'd like a capable tier 5, decent moneymaker and crew training tank for the Japanese medium tank crew further up the line, then the Chi-Nu-Kai isn't a bad investment.
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XLegion-716X In reply to TChenArt [2014-03-02 06:44:31 +0000 UTC]
Well I've already gotten the STB-1 and the crew on that have BiA done, but yeah I'll be thinking about it considering I intend to buy back the STA-1, Type 61 and possibly the Chi-Ri for that autoloader. Thanks for the advice ^^
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TChenArt In reply to Red-Blitzkreig [2014-01-26 16:06:29 +0000 UTC]
i believe there were about 144 built, though none saw combat during the war, since these were held in reserve to defend the Home Islands from Allied invasion.
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SlingBlade87 [2013-12-18 09:36:08 +0000 UTC]
'grats on making the contest.
I've been enjoying my Chu-Nu Kai a lot, curious to see how they handle in the non-prem format.
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TChenArt In reply to SlingBlade87 [2013-12-18 13:23:28 +0000 UTC]
thanks, and i also have a Chi-Nu Kai in my garage, bought it when it came out in the shop. it's more a support and sniper tank...
i too am curious to see how the Chi-Nu will hold up, especially against it's tier 5 medium counterparts, the M4, M7, Pz IV and III/IV, and the T-34s. guess we'll soon find out (i doubt it's playstyle would be any different from the Chi-Nu Kai though)
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SlingBlade87 In reply to TChenArt [2013-12-18 13:36:32 +0000 UTC]
I treat the Chu-Nu Kai like a Wolverine honestly. It operates much the same and the armament is comparable.
So far the Chu-Nu Kai has proven very good against its peers, so I expect the Chu-Nu will be equally satisfactory unless they change the stats that drastically.
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TChenArt In reply to SlingBlade87 [2013-12-19 11:19:26 +0000 UTC]
if i played the Chi-Nu Kai the same way i play the Wolverine, i'd die more often. i can afford to be slightly more aggressive with the M10 since it as better mobility and horsepower, better gun depression and tougher turret mantlet and its 76 gun has better RoF, penetration and accuracy
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