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Published: 2012-01-16 18:26:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 27966; Favourites: 117; Downloads: 473
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Despite the deletion of the picture, I reupload it, because the dA staff had given me no clear answer as to why a simple portrait is considered Hate Art.In case that the admins will find the re-upload of the artwork a bannable offense, I'm ready to engage in CONSTRUCTIVE discussion of why it is so horrible.
And yes, I consider Breivik a hero and share his viewpoint on what he did. So what? It's my opinion, and you can't guess it by artwork alone. I can consider a hero anyone who I want - that doesn't qualify as hate speech either.
He called himself a Knight Templar, so that's the naming of the pic.
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That is not an argument. Abstaining from further acts of debauchery does not make him a morally upright man.
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Yes it is.
It disproves that he is a sociopath, a sociopath also wouldnΒ΄t need any other justification than "I did for the lulz" or "the voices told me to". [link]
It certainly would have been debauchery if he had done it out of racism but thankfully, he wasnΒ΄t ignorant about it. 8)
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You are confusing a sociopath for a pschotic person. And almost all criminals could have committed more crimes than they ended up committing, but this does not absolve them of the crimes they did commit.
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Hardly, considering the plan he pulled.
What does the western medias state about the Soviet-Union and psychiatry there?
Oh right, political opponent where fraudulently declared to be insane and sent to psychiatric hospital.
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Projection, not coΓ―ncidence.
They tried to declare him insane but their own handling of the case ultimately prevented it from playing out the way they intended it to, just like for the Zimmerman trial.
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I never said he was psychotic, I said he was a sociopath, meaning that he had no remorse or sense of guilt for his actions. Hearing voices would indicate an inability to correctly perceive reality, which is called being psychotic.
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He ainΒ΄t a sociopath.
A sociopath wouldnΒ΄t care shit if Norway was overrune by muzzies and/or become a province of a totalitarian europe, he/she would just leave for ShangaΓ― or Singapore or seek to cash in on the whole scheme and become a EU bureaucrat.
His killcount show he hesitated, a sociopath wouldnΒ΄t have done so.
A socioapth wanting to kill for the lulz would have gone for a randome shopping mall or a school and wouldnΒ΄t have justified his/her actions with a political/national agenda unless that would make the sentence more lenient.
Of course, the political thoughts of Mr Breivik as well as his open defiance makes the courts less lenient.
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How incredibly courteous of him.
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Another reason why he does have empathy.
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he didn't consider himself a Knights Templar, he was in the free masons (An organisation THAT VALUES CHARITY AND WELL BEING) and reached a high ranking.
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true i agree with that point
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Yeah exactly, the charity and well being of the land at the expense of the few.
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fuck you faggot fite me irl 420 blaze one
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You do know that Breivik was for homosexual rights, Γ»a?
K: Tell him, mr Spock.
S: This isnΒ΄t logical.
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i dont give a shit. stop defending him you peasant
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At least h wasnΒ΄t racist about it or even honophobic, thatΒ΄s a relief, heΒ΄d be a terrible, terrible human person if that had been his motivations. -)
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i don't share your views nor do i herald breivik as a hero but i respect your rights
keep fightin the good fight for free speech
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Let the bodies hit the fjord.
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Oh god, I should not be laughing at this xD
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a new hero rised, but no one wants to accept him as what he is, and yes like a monster.
good guy, amazing drawing
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I am sorry to hear that this deviation has been removed. There is no such thing as "Hate art", art is art. Smash cultural marxism
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The picture is downright impressive (save for the face, which falls deep into the Uncanny Valley) and the mods might have been wrong in censoring it, but it does make me queasy.
It's a tribute to an utter abomination, a monstruous... thing wearing human skin, so devoid of any kind o f human empathy or conscience as to look almost alien when his questioning was shown on TV. How anyone could consider him a hero is completely beyond me, but then again people considered (or consider) people like Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden, Kim Jon Il and such heroes.
Sadly, the murderous insane will never become extinct, but I just hope that they never again get to power. WWII was quite enough, thank you.
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On the contrary, it is because he have empathy and conciousness he took action against them and what they stood for, cultural marxism, otherwise he would have joined them and promoted their delluded utopia for his own gains.
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Nicely drawn if you did it all by hand : o. I'm still not even sure what Breivik stood up for, I mean his ideology after all.
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...You realize that knight templars -- in literature, at least -- are villains, or villainous like characters, who are convinced of their own righteousness, right?
TL;DR version: Pretentious dicks who are whack outta their minds. Think Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2.
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"MA VIDYA GAEMS SAID TEMPLER NITES ARE IN THE ILERMATY N EVIL THATS WHY THE ASSASSIN CREED GUY KILLS EM WHY U POAST HAET ART"
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The Illuinati and the Knights Templar are polar opposites; one being formed during the Inquision to persue the sciences and the other founded during the early crusades to fight anyone who wasn't Christian.
And I'm from Minnesota, not Squidbillies, dipweed, I don't sound like that.
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Technically speaking, the Crusades only started after Muslim rulers denied Christian pilgrims the right to freely visit holy sites. The Templars on the other hand were well versed in their enemies, studying Arabic and the Koran at a time when others would just pack off to war with any random middle easterner.
Anyone who knows anything about their history knows the Templars were killed because the King of France was a bitch about not being allowed to become a Templar. Any honest history of them is actually very favorable.
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Oh yeah. But I was talking about more along the lines of the literary archetype, being a bit cheeky with it. Details: [link]
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You're free to view him as a hero all you want, it doesn't change the fact he's a mass-murderer, and utterly deranged if he thought his actions would do him any good. Like it or not, there is no justification for what he did.
I actually more or less agree with many of his views on Islam in Europe and the potential threat posed by the aggressiveness of that religion, but his methods of making his point were absolute madness. Yes he got himself and his cause a lot of attention, but not of the type that would actually help his cause - he totally villified himself and put a permanant stain on the ideals he followed. How could any rational human being think that the mass murder of children would help his cause at all? And moreover, how does a thinking, feeling human being even consider supporting those actions, regardless of the political motive behind it?
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Stain?
So much bullshit. Only blood solidifies an ideal. Ideals mean nothing if you're not ready to spill your and other people's blood for the. That's why ideals are IDEALS.
It would help the cause, it's a wake up call.
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Not to be rude, but those are the methods of a bygone age. Your kind and your mindset have absolutely no place in the modern world. There is a very, very good reason why the overwhelming majority of modern society condemns this kind of crap and its supporters are a loathed minority - and it's not because we're "blind" or "naiive" as I'm sure you would love to believe, it's because the human race has evolved above and beyond needing to resort to a bloodthirsty rampage to argue our points.
Part of the man's problem with Islam is that it is a religion of hate, and that's true. But how on earth does mass-murder help your position in relation to that religion? You just make yourself look like you're no different to them. Fighting fire with fire achieves nothing.
You want to know what this kind of thing is? It's not heroism.
It's weakness.
That's right, weakness. It's an inability to commit to or comprehend civilised, modern methods of negotiation and situational resolution, so people like Breivik just give up and resort to their basest, most vicious instincts. There is no logic, reason or compassion behind his motives. He is just another deluded psychopath, stuck in the bloodstained morals of a forgotten past.
When will you and your ilk grow up?
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No. We hadn't "evolved" anywhere.
The only difference between our times and 100, 200, 900 years ago is that civilians now can be quite FAR removed from bloodshed going on in the name of their interests. But just because you're removed and safe, doesn't mean that the said powerstruggle doesn't happen, and that it doesn't claim lives.
Bloodthirsty rampage is what defines our progress and safety, arguing that would be extremely silly and uneducated. Difference is, you've never had the chance to be caught in the crossfire, which leads you to view the world from the bottom of your stall, and spout nonsense about "evolving beyond certain points".
Modern, civilized methods of negotiation are working because there are guns and armies behind them, and people willing to put their life on the line for their compatriots, states and civilizational values.
However, even in "civilized" conduct two are needed to play the game. Now our civilization is attacked from without and within. Breivik lashed against the inner, subversive enemy - he's no worse then the soldiers protecting your state's integrity against terrorist and hostile nations.
But of course, your head is too far up your ass, so you almost see the approaching utopia of peace and tolerance. What can I say? Enjoy it while you can.
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Go fuck your mother, you fucking nothing. You non-entity. You flake of shit on the toilet bowl of humanity.
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I like how you seem to think of yourself as some kind of messiah for the one true path, and that you're the only one who knows the truth about the real world. Where is this "crossfire"? Where are these secret battles you're implying, and can I assume you yourself somehow have some intimate experience with it? If so, do go on and enlighten me. Provide some concrete examples from the modern world where mass-murder has been conducive to human advancement.
And no, negotiation has nothing to with guns and armies in the modern world - this is only the case in the middle-east, where the general mindset is still, as I said before, stuck in the past. In the western world great sweeping issues are solved year after year with absolutely no need for enormous violence.
And more to the point, how are men like Breivik even relevant to this? How did he even lash out against the "enemy within"? This is my point, he did absolutely nothing with any impact on his views - he murdered a swathe of children and condemned himself. He had absolutely no appreciable impact on anything other than bringing to the fore the issue that there are some seriously deranged human beings hidden in normal society, fighting to justify and validate their own bloodthirstyness.
Face it, Breivik and his methods have absolutely no relevance in the modern world. He's simply the public face of people like yourself who desperately WISH that the world was as dark and bloody as they would love it to be. If there is any bloodshed in our society, it is entirely the artifice of people like you. You are not the world's secret protectors. You are not the enlightened few who need to educate the rest of us.
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No, I don't claim to be a messaiah. However, I don't hide my head in my ass and dehect reality.
I don't imply secret battles. I imply real battles. The whole earth is embroiled in constant struggle, some - through outright warfare, like in Middle east and Africa, some through economic pressure, some through demographic expansion and so on.
Example of mass-murder being conducive? Well, nuclear energy was a byproduct of the nuclear arms race made important during WW2. WW2 also helped humanity advance in such directions as aeronautics (jet engines), medicine (the use of new anaesthetics and disenfectants on the battle-field, numerous discoveries of new operations and better knowledge of blood transfusion), microelectronics and radiotechnology, computing - should I carry on&
Really? The western world is such as it is because it constantly exploits the weakness of others, thank god for that. If we stopped supplying the third world with weapons to kill themselves with, economics would fail a lot more.
Those weren't CHILDREN, for godssake. Those were capable teenagers, no younger than say, the Hitlerjugend renegades during the WW2, and yet, I don't see you holding candellight vigils for them. The issue brought forward was the issue that if the society continues on this suicidal strategy, more and more "deranged human beings" would come out to stop it and kill your precious "innocent chilrun". If not through words, then through fear and terror can change be brought.
Oh, of course we're not educators. We're just the forerunners.
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Such a pretentious cock sucker, aren't you? You silly, sad little man. You seem to believe that your incoherent, emo, hipster-ramblings are worth sharing, for some peculiar reason. Personally, I'd rather feast on your mothers stale anal cavity than read any more of your filthy, baseless, dull 'rants'. You are clearly a willing victim of the internet generation. You form your views based on Youtube videos and Wikipedia articles, as opposed to leaving your stinking cesspit and opening your mind to worldly experience, you opt to fester in your dark, stale, reeking bedroom where you furiously beat at your miniscule, fetid manhood whilst wallowing in your own filth and self-loathing. I bet you have Hitler posters on your walls too. So predictable, you simple little organism.
It is very apparent to me that you are a parasite who has willing cultivated an unhealthy state of mind. No doubt, you are ugly in appearance and socially incompetent. These two afflictions are almost always the classic symptoms of cancerous life forms, such as yourself.
You, my boy, are a risk to the intelligent and enlightened.
You call animals "sub-species" and "organisms", all the while you're completely oblivious to the ultimate truth.
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Ad homenims are not valid tactics, even against people who espouse thuggery.
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"You, my boy, are a risk to the intelligent and enlightened."
DonΒ΄t flatter yourself!
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It's actually depressing that there's people so far-gone in this mindset.
And the technological advancements from the second world war were in reaction to the armed conflict between militaries - governments better equipping their soldiers to better combat other soldiers. The atrocities and mass murder of civilians of the second world war had absolutely NOTHING to do with that advancement, it was nothing more than mindless killing. You're grasping at straws trying to justify and rationalise your own desire to see people die.
And what difference does it makes whether they were in their teens? Are you trying to tell me that being "capable teenagers" makes it their own fault that they couldn't fight back against a heavily armed gunman? I can honestly not understand how your view on the way the world should be has become so warped. You worship the actions of mass-murderers, stretching reality and reasonable logic to try and rationalise it. You need help.
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naaah, you know, ww2 was a lot about murdering civilians in order to break the enemy, so biological research into nuclear weapons, biological and chemical warfare pursued the idea of effective enemy demoralizing. may i remind you that the only time nuclear weapons were used, it was against civilians, not a military.
No, Im saying theyre not children, thats all. You use the word in a highly emotional connotation, as if implying that killing children is somehow more reprehensible then adults, which in itself is a rather laughable position for someone with your views, but no. They arent children.
My reality is my reality. You have yours. I doube theyll ever mix, so the fuck you want from me?
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You're an asshole, but thank fuck we have the freedom of speech to be assholes if we want.
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As the saying goes...
"I.
JIZZED.
IN.
MY PANTS."
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Why everyone so serious? Let's just enjoy mass-murders for nothing :3
But as for me, I dislike nazis. Their race theory smells like incestophylia. Actually half-bleeds and other mongrels are the true ubermenschen IMHO)
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[link]
David Epstein sure is a nazi name.
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The art and talent that went into making this picture is great, but the comments are delicious.
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You now, maybe you should stop arguing about whats right and wrong and about political, zionism, racism... and just enjoy the ART !!!
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Hey mate, i know you did this long ago. But tell me, was it useful in any way ?
The right wing party he was part of before the killing got bad result because of a direct consequence of what he have done.
I think that he deserved his cause by resorting to violence.
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