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Despite the deletion of the picture, I reupload it, because the dA staff had given me no clear answer as to why a simple portrait is considered Hate Art.In case that the admins will find the re-upload of the artwork a bannable offense, I'm ready to engage in CONSTRUCTIVE discussion of why it is so horrible.
And yes, I consider Breivik a hero and share his viewpoint on what he did. So what? It's my opinion, and you can't guess it by artwork alone. I can consider a hero anyone who I want - that doesn't qualify as hate speech either.
He called himself a Knight Templar, so that's the naming of the pic.
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Did Breivik support Zionism? I read he does. Do you know anything about that?
I don't know if he is a Templar, but damn he is a smart one.
The prison he is now, is better then my apartment. Fucking asshole. No i don't dislike him. I envy him. Fucking asshole.
Maybe i should go kill some people that looked at me in the wrong way and get a free hotel room for the rest of my life. Of course not here, i will probably get killed in our prison.
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I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, with that being said however, I would never call a man who murders defenceless innocents in cold blood a hero, more like a monster.
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I didn't know that "innocence" was something real and objective and could be measured.
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I don't really see what Anders Breivik accomplished by killing 69 people in his mass shooting, other than causing alot of families to be thrown into heartbreak and grief.
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nice derailment of previous argument.
"oh that appeal to emotion didnt work, ill just rry another".
Listen, I dont give a shit about these immigrant and leftis families. I give no more shits than the international community gave when the parents same "innocents" who were slaughtered on Utoya had blown up dozens of Russian people in Domodedovo airport a few years back.
Fair game.
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Alright I guess you don't care about any other group than European Whites, But the tragedy that happened at Domodedovo sprung from the same hatred of "The Other" that inspired Anders Breivik to kill all those people, I also highly doubt that the parents of the children that Breivik massacared were the ones that carried out the terrorist act at Domodedevo. Also you can't judge an entire people from their worst people in their group, because if that is the case then all of the other people in the world could judge our race as being imperialistic, racist, genocidal, douches bent on taking over the world and making everyone else on the planet our slaves.
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except they do judge us so and demand money for their own failure to be as good as us and as effective at domination.
so I dont care, yes.
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I admit a few (let me stress a few) people feel that way about the caucasian race, but with people like you around I guess they're sorta justified in jumping to conclusions, (you know stereotyping an entire group of people by a small amount of their people), and just to let you know alot of immigrants leave their countries so they can advance their station in life, to escape persecution or warfare, and to provide a better life for their children. But then again you don't care about them and rather jump to the conclusions that their flocking to Europe and the United States to destroy the white race and our way of life. Another thing, not all non caucasian people are sitting around demanding money for past injustices, (which there are guite a few injustices the European peoples have inflicted upon them), they're going to work, taking their children to school, getting an education at an university, or a host of other things to help them get ahead in life.
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yeah, why dont they fix their own countries so that they wouldnt need to run away to us and fuck our shit up? because theyre lazy no-good assholes, and knos that we would pay for them out of this ridiculous unfounded guilt.
Well I have no guilt, and those that think I or my compatriots should have it, can go fuck themselves.
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LMAO! Who fucked up their countries in the first place? The only reason you can live in this comfortable capitalist lifestyle in Europe is because they are kept in poverty by the Occident. If you ever experienced poverty, how can you get mad at them for trying to get a better life? You know what, fucker? I think you're the lazy, selfish asshole who'd rather blame other ethnicity for your problems rather than try to find a real solution that doesn't involves violence.
"But my freeeedom of expression blah blah". Yeah, whatever. Keep your racism and fascism to yourself, you're only embarrassing yourself.
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They be poor because they be OPPRESSED, kept down by teh White man?
Hell no, they themselves screwed their countries in the first place. Just look at North Korea, they can say they are being kept in povery, ressources-poor country facing a blockade for +20 years now.
Yet, they still managed to launch a satellite after all, test a few nukes and gave the finger to Obama and his sickening bootlickers.
Iran? They have had some problems with economic warfare but they managed to deal with it, launched satellites too.
TD is from Russia, the one that got a nice job, military service, a car, nice perscomp, collection of guns and knives. -)
He is "privilegied" not through charity or getting to another country, he got a better life cauzΒ΄ he worked for it.
That is unlike you social justice tumbltards, aggressive failures who have had things handed to you your whole lives.
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Alright this could go on and on, so I say we just let bygones be bygones and come to the conclusion that we don't care for the other's opinion and leave the argument at that.
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Just another narrow-minded snuff-loving brainwashed hypocrite. You spread intolerance in a tolerant society, justifying it with your freedom and right for free speech. You are working against everything free tolerant society stands and works for. When the time comes and enough of this scum gathers around, we will have to fight you once again and we will be ready. I guess it is inevitable. Now go jack off to your hero.
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Oh such delicious butthurt, he sure did his work!
Let the bodies the fjord, [link]
One, something's got to give
Two, something's got to give
Seventy three, something's got to give
"When the time comes and enough of this scum gathers around, we will have to fight you once again and we will be ready."
ThatΒ΄s the thing, Breivik could, unlike you, because you are the scumbags.
Unwashed antia already back when Ian Stuart was making his beginnings.
Back in the mid 1990s, some cuntface butthurt at the WBCΒ΄s words about homosexuals tried to IED them, didnΒ΄t work that well.
You are too gutless, too incompetent, canΒ΄t work worth a damn, canΒ΄t get organized, biggest hinder being leaving your basements and your mommies not allowing you to be 100% gangsta.
Oh right silly me, it is because the White Man oppressed you that you suck so hard, lol!
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Γ myrde uskyldige mennesker er ikke noe en helt gjΓΈr. Anders Behring Breivik er ingen helt.
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Han er Rettferdighet!
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PΓ₯ hvilken mΓ₯te?
Also, do you really speak norwegian?
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How many of these youtube comments in Norwegian on videos about Breivik are done by actual Norwegians and how many of the people claiming to know some of the victims actually does so?
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I'll take that as a "no" then.
So I'll ask again. How is Breivik justice? He killed a bunch of kids. That is not justice.
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Not "kids", soldiers have died in iraq and Afghanistan for making such a mistake.
He did what he thought was his part for justice to triumph.
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Are you seriously comparing the situation that soldiers in Afghanistan are in to an average peaceful political camp in Norway?
And yes, of course he did what he thought was his part for justice to triumph. That's the case with EVERY ideology-driven madman.
That doesn't excuse what he did.
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No, that is just a usefull reminder that 14 years old arenΒ΄t "kids", of course it isnΒ΄t comparable because the "kids" that kills US soldiers at least doesnΒ΄t help bring about the downffall of the US.
Peacefull? Given what they are part of, he may have been wrong in his actions but it was certainly not illogical of him to go for the spoiled spawn of the traitor politicians, especially when they where supposed to be receiving someone elseΒ΄s visit.
No one complains that resistance movements targetted collaborators during WW2, even in countries Hitler did not intend to Germanize or have the locals deported east at some point in the future.
He also have to show that in a war, one have to be ruthless if victory is to be possible.
Those who would dismisse his message because of his actions are no losse because theyΒ΄ll remain either coved or unwilling to fight seriously by whoever is strongest, whoever that might be.
Yes, that he did act, in spite of his own self-interest and emotions, does excuse him and he is the one fighting insane ideologues.
Only thing that wouldnΒ΄t excuse him is that he miscalculated the contribution of his actions, thought I realize that feelings are not proof of that being the case, not by a long shot (no pun intended).
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Again, you're comparing two very different scenarios. You're ignoring an essential difference.
"Kids" is just a word that I use to illustrate that they're not yet standing on their own feet. They are not adults in charge of their own lives, nor do they have any real political power yet.
And yes. Peaceful. In that they were not seeking the demise or even harm of someone else.
You can argue that the politicians they were supporting were traitors, but those kids had no malicious intent. For anyone. Not even on the opposing side.Β
They believed that what they were supporting would be of benefit to everyone. That things would be a better place with less hatered.Β Sure, you can say that they were misguided and ignorant, but that still doesn't change the fact that they had nothing to them that would make killing them justified. Ignorance can be fixed. Misguided people CAN change their ways.
As far as the collaborators, I think everyone agrees that every civilian life lost was a shame. But I think people can also agree that sometimes, the needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few. Like you say yourself.
The nukes in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are commonly referred to as examples.
But again, there is a key difference here. The nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a display of military superiority. To show Japan that they couldn't win. And that goes for all other such "legitimate" cases of unfortunate civilian casualties. It's that they accomplished something substantial. Something strategic. Something tangible.
Where as the massacre on UtΓΈya only accomplished misery and contempt towards Breivik's own case.
Had he been SMART, he would've found a way to influence islamists into commiting a terrorist attack.Β
The first terrorist attack on norwegian soil being commited by a group that belongs to a religion that isn't exactly very well thought of to begin with already? The people would turn against it all on their own.
Believe it or not, but norwegians are actually not very fond of immigration or multiculturalism, which is why most parties try to make immigrants adapt to norwegian culture.
If a group of muslim extremists had commited the attack, islam wouldn't have stood a chance.Β
But instead, he chose to kill a bunch of defenseless kids at a political camp, while later outing himself as a nationalist.
It's pretty much the stupidest thing he could've possibly done for his cause. Because in Norway, terrorism doesn't work. Terrorism doesn't turn people to your side. It turns them away from it. AGAINST it.
The most substantial thing he accomplished was to create some debate. But that would've happened either way.Β
So he effectively accomplished absolutely NOTHING. Other than lessening the impact when the first muslim terrorist attack DOES occur...
And that in itself is another reason that I, and everyone else who wants islam out of the north, should hate him.
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Heroes do not pose with weapons.
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What a horrible way to waste you talent and time on.
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This is probably pointless, but I'm bored and annoyed so why not.
You said at one point he was somehow defending democracy and western civilization, but that is silly. First, a central requirement of a functional democracy is that the individual concedes any right to the use of coercive force to the state. He may use force to defend himself, other people or property, but he no longer has the right to put a gun to someone's head and demand anything from them (or pull the trigger, for that matter). In a democratic framework, the legal system exists to resolve such disputes. If a law is imposed that you disagree with, you take action to get it repealed or practice civil disobedience like a grown-up.
Second, there is nothing remotely heroic about killing unarmed and unsuspecting people regardless of extenuating circumstance. It's the act of a bully on steroids; a man who isn't man enough to face someone on equal footing or grown-up enough to solve problems with words. Your hero is a man who failed to learn basic rules of civil behavior that even children understand.
For his sake, I hope someday he realizes what he's done and is man enough to seek forgiveness.
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What do you expect from a faggot like TD? I now remember how I couldn't stand this fag.
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All hail our imprisoned hero and freedom fighter!
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breivik murdered innocent people you fucking lunitic. i truely hope you die in a fire. freedom of speech for the win fuckbag.
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LunAtic.
No, innocence is a really abstract term.
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Long Live Commander Breivik! Long Live the Knights Templar! Death to the Traitors!
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Still a zionist.
His message is good for Europe, but he went around the wrong way about it.
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Oh really. How people should go about their message, post stuff online or talk in a respectable manner to untermensch and race traitors with faint hopes someone would hear something and miraculously change the suicidal course our society set on?
Please. In modern times, the only thing people pay attention to us gunshots, and Breivik understood it.
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If that were true, he would have had little to fear from the Bolshevik youths he killed. They were unarmed. He feared them because messages, even messages as foolish and potentially destructive as theirs, are listened to by civilized people.
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Civilized people are people who are not a suicidal bunch of commoner filth that's rooting for outdated shit like "peace" and "diversity. I don't consider who you call civilized, to be PEOPLE - they are cattle, and they will follow any idea and any person that asserts their authority over them. Western Europe lacks civilized people - it has post-civilized cattle, that merely grazes on the pastures built by their human ancestors. Nothing more, nothing less.
Civilization, true white civilization is left only in parts of the US and Eastern Europe, maybe Greece. Everything else - might evolve, if given the incentive, but the current state?... Cattle. That's why they get butchered in the streets of their cities, and all their herd can offer them, is that indignation at those individuals who dared to stand up to their killers, ironically.
Your "civilization" sickens me, in a nutshell. The faster it dissolves under it's own failure, the better for the rest of us.
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You are wrong. This civilization has surpassed all others in terms of justice, although it is often imperfect. Peace is better than violence, although at times violence can be the only method of installing peace. I support arrest, but never execution.
As to diversity, I do not think it should be enforced, but I am not so paranoid that I despise all those different to me. Employ who you wish, marry who you wish, but do no harm is my philosophy.
You are wrong. This civilization has surpassed all others in terms of justice, although it is often imperfect. Peace is better than violence, although at times violence can be the only method of installing peace. I support arrest, but never execution.
As to diversity, I do not think it should be enforced, but I am not so paranoid that I despise all those different to me. Employ who you wish, marry who you wish, but do no harm is my philosophy.
I can repeat myself too.
I can repeat myself too.
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How about - no? I'll harm who I wish, if I wish to, and face the consequences, if that's what I want. That is, if the consequences catch up.
No... The only thing your civilization did, was pass its prime. Now we're all smelling the rot. And what do you know of violence anyway?
Well, if you want to mock someone for a technical hiccup on the part of deviantArt's software, the fuck you're pretending to have a pseudo-intellectual discussion, pardon me?
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Oh sorry, I presumed that you had posted twice to emphasize your point. Also: the society you would wish for would make life, as Hobbes put it "nasty, brutish and short".
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Life already is nasty, brutish, and short. Though, difference is, that the unproductive lazy boredom and leeching off society now for many is stretched up to 30 years for no good reason.
But yes. It's still nasty, brutish and relatively short. Things changed only for a minority of people, and that's a stable constanta. Not that I wish to improve lives of people. My view is that if a person cannot improve their life on their own, they're not worth me trying.
At least in the kind of society I'd like to live in, there would be no room for hiding under abstract concepts proven to be delusional.
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People's lives are Nasty Brutish and Short, but in the civilization which I endorse (note my references to Western civilization), they are less so than they once were. Mankind improves, even if monsters wish we wouldn't.
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Civilized people are people who are not a suicidal bunch of commoner filth that's rooting for outdated shit like "peace" and "diversity. I don't consider who you call civilized, to be PEOPLE - they are cattle, and they will follow any idea and any person that asserts their authority over them. Western Europe lacks civilized people - it has post-civilized cattle, that merely grazes on the pastures built by their human ancestors. Nothing more, nothing less.
Civilization, true white civilization is left only in parts of the US and Eastern Europe, maybe Greece. Everything else - might evolve, if given the incentive, but the current state?... Cattle. That's why they get butchered in the streets of their cities, and all their herd can offer them, is that indignation at those individuals who dared to stand up to their killers, ironically.
Your "civilization" sickens me, in a nutshell. The faster it dissolves under it's own failure, the better for the rest of us.
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At the infestation, yes, but not the people he's trying to bring back to glory. The message has been tainted and strained endlessly by the media, solely because most of his victims were not foreigners, but natives - multi-racialists and traitors, but still. Hells, maybe Breivik takes out a few bastards in prison, who knows?
However, Liberals are calling this summer the summer of nationalism, and for a reason. Greece is turning to Golden Dawn. The French are throwing out the gypsies, more and more people, once their comforts have been taken away, economically, are voicing their opinions. And Liberals are getting scared, not because violence is the main part of this change, but people are voting that change in. Who knows? Europe might one day see itself a greater power - xenophobic democracies, as BBC calls them - and with one less stain in it.
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hey this is great, ill hang it on my wall
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