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Published: 2019-12-12 01:44:50 +0000 UTC; Views: 17276; Favourites: 381; Downloads: 22
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You can recruit Darkrai in the post-game in certain dungeons, Mystifying Forest being one of them. I've always wondered what would be the implications of possibly recruiting the same Darkrai that caused so much anguish, even if his memory's been wiped. Would Azurill be willing to forgive him? Scratch that, couldΒ Marill - who was there to see his little brother starving because of Darkrai - forgive him?? How would Cresselia, Palkia and specially the Partner react? Could Darkrai truly follow a path of good, considering how harmful his ability is to others - and the possible origin for his evil motivations?There's so much story potential for this, I'd have loved to see a post-post-game for Explorers. But then the game would be too long, heh
edit: I just wanted to say I didn't bring up these scenarios for value judgement. Characters that were hurt by villains are not required to forgive them. Whether they choose to give Darkrai a second chance or not shows what kind of person they are, but not as in "bad person" or "good person", just as "they are more/less/(un) forgiving because of x, y, z reasons". I just see it as another part of characterization, nothing more. So I apologize if my wording was insensitive
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alexwarlorn [2022-08-17 10:39:00 +0000 UTC]
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RerunNumber17 [2022-03-12 03:39:37 +0000 UTC]
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indarkniss [2020-04-15 04:15:23 +0000 UTC]
There's only 1 Darkrai in existence, so it is the same one you fought. There's also a post-postgame, too.
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gamerblackjacket [2020-02-06 03:12:52 +0000 UTC]
You know looking back at this
This would be a awesome idea
But if something like this could happen would that play out?
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TheFradsGarter22 [2019-12-15 12:20:17 +0000 UTC]
I just finished PSMD. 'Truely bad Pokemon. Doesn't really exist elsewhere' came from the partner in that game. As for PMD Eos. It's really touching and I'm glad someone actually made a remaster of the soundtracks in YouTube.
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PCX-Art In reply to Dedalo-el-Hispano [2021-01-25 23:53:18 +0000 UTC]
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FNaFFan199 In reply to PCX-Art [2023-09-25 06:45:25 +0000 UTC]
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PCX-Art In reply to FNaFFan199 [2023-09-25 18:21:37 +0000 UTC]
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aeroelite478 [2019-12-12 22:40:53 +0000 UTC]
This actually ties in well with the Gates to Eternity and Super Mystery Dungeon. In those cases, no one individual was the true enemy. On the surface, that sounds hopeful. But the other takeaway is that even a small amount of darkness is always there, and collectively, that alone can be enough to destroy everything. That may seem grim, but it adds a level of realism and authenticity to this series that you don't often see in the other series. This, in turn, makes the emotional pull of the game so much stronger, resulting in a very rich experience.
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LionheartedPhoenix [2019-12-12 18:55:09 +0000 UTC]
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RelixZonin [2019-12-12 07:16:01 +0000 UTC]
I mean, if all of someone's memories were wiped, then I think I can forgive them because it isn't really the same person anymore.
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FNaFFan199 In reply to RelixZonin [2023-09-25 06:48:32 +0000 UTC]
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TheAlyshianArchives [2019-12-12 04:43:24 +0000 UTC]
aw man this is such a cool idea
I love Darkrai in your style too!
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TeeterGlance In reply to TheAlyshianArchives [2019-12-12 10:34:50 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!! ;o;
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Snepril [2019-12-12 04:03:30 +0000 UTC]
This is lovely, Teeter!
Back a long time ago, my first real major writing project was actually about exactly this - Darkrai's story after the end of Explorers, and how others reacted to his past. I never did finish it, but it's still a fun question to ponder!
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Battledroidunit047 [2019-12-12 02:53:21 +0000 UTC]
Imagine how the amnesiac Darkrai would react if he found out about his own past. Would he be horrified that he once longed for such a wicked thing? Would he consider pursuing that goal once more? Would he feel guilty and run away, never to show his face again? Would he seek guidance from those who were once his nemeses?
I would never know, as I never did anything after defeating Darkrai...
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0bsidianlink [2019-12-12 02:52:46 +0000 UTC]
teeter i lover this
but why is darkari finger gunning entering the portal in that first panelΒ
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TeeterGlance In reply to 0bsidianlink [2019-12-12 10:34:17 +0000 UTC]
That's him running away before Palkia can break it!
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SaltnPepperBunny [2019-12-12 02:07:30 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I think redemption is an overrated trend whose usage often reflects badly on the writer trying to utilize it. It's something I try not to touch nowadays. I dunno if Azurill and Marill could come to forgive Darkrai, but I think it's more important to not put them in the position to have to choose whether to forgive him in the first place. Better to just let them live their lives completely free of the pokemon who tormented them.Β
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Battledroidunit047 In reply to SaltnPepperBunny [2019-12-12 02:41:09 +0000 UTC]
You're not wrong, but from what I remember of an old Star Wars game called "Knights of the Old Republic", and this will spoil a major plot point, but you play as a powerful and very dangerous Sith Lord whose memory was wiped in hopes of saving the Republic from a great threat. The real trick is how your actions define you prior to that revelation, and the choice you make after it. If you choose to remain the path of the Jedi, then I guess you could consider your character redeemed(?), but you return to the ways of the sith, then yeah, your point is valid.
And then we have someone who was born evil, like Aku, the primary antagonist of Samurai Jack. Originally a fragment of a cosmic black mass that evaded the latter's extermination at the hands of three gods from separate religions, Aku was given sentience, albeit unwittingly, by a Japanese Emperor who intended to destroy it. Seeing the destruction Aku brought upon the world, the gods from earlier gave the emperor a magic katana with which to seal away Aku, who would return eight years later and wreak havoc once more, and twenty years later, it would fall to the Emperor's son, a Samurai who would later take the name Jack, to destroy Aku for good. Unfortunately, before the final blow was struck Aku tore open a portal in time and flung Jack into the future, where Aku's evil is law... and that's how the show begins...
I suppose it also depends on the crimes committed. If they are rather minor, like say spray painting graffiti on a wall in an unauthorized location, then I guess you can find redemption via community service or something just as fitting. But we're talking mass genocide, like the holocaust of WW2, then the one who performed it can burn in hell for all I care.
I'm not an expert on karma and such, but I do get appalled by horrendous acts going unpunished. Oh and let's not forget that Darkrai suffered memory loss when he was attacked in his portal, much like the player was at the beginning.
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TeeterGlance In reply to SaltnPepperBunny [2019-12-12 02:26:23 +0000 UTC]
People who were once bad can choose to try and become a better person, but the ones they've hurt are under no obligation to forgive them. Both of these can coexist, and whether the ones hurt want to try and give the baddie a second chance depends on what kind of character they are.
Redemption is a running theme in every Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game, from Rescue Team to PSMD, and I grew to like it a lot because of them. I don't think it is inherently bad. It's a good source for interesting narratives and character building
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SaltnPepperBunny In reply to TeeterGlance [2019-12-12 02:49:23 +0000 UTC]
Fair enough! Sorry, I didn't mean to try to start a debate in your comment section. We both have our reasons for feeling the way they do. ^^ I apologize for my rudeness.Β
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Battledroidunit047 In reply to TeeterGlance [2019-12-12 02:48:36 +0000 UTC]
It's just a matter of how the redeption is done, I guess, though some just can't be redeemed..
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Gator-The-Greater [2019-12-12 02:07:05 +0000 UTC]
I don't think anyone would be ablee to handle the awesomeness of a post-post game for Explorers xD
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Battledroidunit047 In reply to Gator-The-Greater [2019-12-12 02:49:27 +0000 UTC]
Never even done the Post-post game...
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Zero-Zivan [2019-12-12 02:02:47 +0000 UTC]
Ah, so you do know
Yeah, I've always wondered about that. But then again, this IS PMD, and I haven't seen anyone being vindictive or holding a grudge in those games. Even the ones with an agenda end up being swayed when the right character talks to them about their problems.
Having thoughts about the Victory Fire interpretation of Darkrai now, hah!
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TeeterGlance In reply to Zero-Zivan [2019-12-12 10:39:41 +0000 UTC]
Come to think, that's super true! Based off these games' (and even Victory Fire's interpretation of them) pokemon don't seem to have it in them to really hold ill will. It's still an intriguing thought to think about how things would go if they did, tho!
Also I gotta read VF again aa
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Zero-Zivan In reply to TeeterGlance [2019-12-12 18:12:06 +0000 UTC]
It's been on hold for a good long while here - hopefully she manages to resolve her living situation, that's absolutely no fun to work out :C
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TeeterGlance In reply to Zero-Zivan [2019-12-12 23:02:35 +0000 UTC]
I hope Sulfurbunny is doing okay...
Now that my winter vacation is close, I can finally work on finishing this animation for her. It's not much, but I hope it can make her smile
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Zero-Zivan In reply to TeeterGlance [2019-12-12 23:45:18 +0000 UTC]
I do too. It's hard to show support for people who you aren't familiar with, especially when they're in a place that's serious enough that they need someone else to step in and make a public announcement FOR them... but, in most cases the well-wishes are all we can do anyway. And they can inspire people to push hard and carry on too :>
This is a really wonderful gift, I bet she's gonna love it!!
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supereeveefan12 [2019-12-12 01:54:34 +0000 UTC]
Huh.. now I see why people think darkrai looks femaleΒ
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