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Poor Flareon, no love for you... Keep praying for Gen 5 Flareon, keep praying you become awesome.I really don't want you to go to waste... YOU'RE SO DAMN FLUFFY <3
This time, the gag is mine.
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You know...with PokeGen Flareon could use FLare Blitz...
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that's in Gen 6. this art was so old.
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Yeah, but Pokegen was for Gen 3 to 5.
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People constantly insult Flareon for not having any fire type moves, but Flareon's attack and Special attack stats rock, and it's speed is decent. Give it Flamethrower/Fireblast for Special and Giga Impact/Double Edge for Standard attack. It doesn't have to be STAB to be good.
Sorry, I just want to address this, Flareon is a good fire type.
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Flareon is still Physically based, and because of the P/S split, the best Physical STAB move he had was Fire Fang. Even with Flare Blitz, Flareon still isn't a great Pokemon. Flareon's HP is low, and that cancels out the decent Sp. Defense stat. And low Defense in combination with low HP doesn't help Flareon out that much. Not to mention that he's weak to two relatively common hazards. Flareon is also slow, so even if he does get the chance to attack, he'll likely have taken a lot of damage. The low Defense is also bad considering that 2 of the types Flareon is weak to are almost completely Physical. Arcanine can do whatever Flareon can do and more. Darmanitan is a better Flare Blitz spammer. And while I would bring up Infernape, I think I've made my point here.
Casually speaking, any Pokemon can be good.
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I personally find, Arcanine is overpowered. Due to the fact that it's stats are comparable to a Legendary Pokemon, I intentionally refuse to use it. Others may not feel this way. As for Darmanitan; it starts off good for that, but at low health, it swaps to it's zen mode, making it better suited for Psychic, rather than physical sweeping. Thereby weakening this effectiveness.
I don't take Starters into consideration, because all starters are above average. This is a well known factor, and also one of the reasons I generally don't like using starters. But it doesn't matter, because i never start with fire starters anyway.
Flareon has it's good points, all Pokemon have good and bad points.
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I'm talking more competitively. Arcanine's weaknesses are pretty big ones to worry about, and Pokemon like Heatran, Swampert, Terrakion, Zygarde, Milotic, Blastoise, Suicune, (Mega) Slowbro, and others are able to check it well. His Defenses are base 80, which is actually kinda mediocre. His stats are more comparable to a Sinnoh Evolution. Take a look at something like Tangrowth's stats and compare them to Arcanine's. Both have lots of pretty large base stats. Some say Arcanine was supposed to be a legendary, but he wouldn't fit since he wasn't a bird, so they made Moltres instead. It would probably explain why he's known as the Legendary Pokemon, as well as why he had such godly stats in Gen. 1 among the non-Psychics. Although, the same could be said about the starters. Gen 1 was a mess. That aside, Darmanitan is usually more commonly used with Sheer Force, which boosts attacks like Flare Blitz. However, this whittles down his HP quite fast, and he's very frail. Zen Mode Darmanitan would still be at low health, so it'd be relatively easy to knock him out.
Starters are all over the place. Like I said, the starters in Red and Blue were some of the strongest Pokemon in the game. These days, their Megas get them ranked pretty high, with Blastoise being ranked the lowest of the three. But UU Tier ranking is pretty much a way of saying "not bad." The Johto and Unova starters are relatively lackluster. Chesnaught has Bulletproof, Delphox is a good team choice for an RU team, Torterra is pretty bad at competitive battling, and Empoleon is a nice wall Pokemon. Infernape is powerful and very capable of sweeping Pokemon that can't counter it. Swampert and Sceptile have decent Megas that completely capitalize on what they already did well. Greninja is Ubers, and let's not even get started on Blaziken! The starters are all different in terms of how they play. Not all of them are just above average though.
Wow, I had a lot to say. Sorry about that. In the end, I guess I should just say that Flareon has more negatives than positives, and is held back by those said negatives. Non-competitively, however, all Pokemon are usable. Some a bit more others, but still, you won't get OHKO'd each time.
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All this is true. In some sense.
I used a Flareon in Gen I and it totally wrecked shiz, but as you said. Gen I is completely broken, and it is. But I honestly still like Flareon more than most Eeveelutions (especially Umbreon, because let's face it; everyone uses Umbreon.) I just like using pokemon that I really like, and I also enjoy trying some that most prefer not to try.
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I never really touched the Eeveelutions, except for Sylveon and Jolteon. Umbreon's problem is that the Low HP renders the Defenses to be kinda mediocre, and the only reason people really like him is because he's got that black thing going. You make any character black and its going to get a bunch of fans. Vaporeon's pretty good, but I've never gotten to using her yet. Glaceon and Leafeon are both kinda sucky, just like Flareon.
But again, non competitively each of the Eeveelutions are useful in their own way.
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Problem with Vaporeon is by the time you get it, you probably already have a water type at that point. You need one to clear the game, there's no denying that much. If you don't have one (I generally get water starters), I guess it fits, but otherwise. I generally get other water types, like Poliwrath.
Jolteon, I nearly always have Raichu, so it has no place on my team, even though I do find it pretty good.
Flareon was always my favorite.
Espeon is also a really good favorite of mine.
Umbreon I feel gets too much praise.
Leafeon is great if you want a physical grass type, but there are better.
Glaceon is essentially Espeon with ice instead of Psychic.
Sylveon would be good, except Azumarill 1ups it in every aspect.
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Vaporeon is better than Poliwrath (competitively) and in-game, it really all depends. In Heart Gold, I first used Poliwrath, but in my rereplay of Heart Gold, I'm thinking Vaporeon. I'll probably have to wait, but it'll be worth it.
Jolteon is defintely better than Raichu. Raichu is frail and Jolteon is faster.
Azumarill's problem in comparison to Sylveon is Speed, as well as rather limiting movepool. There's Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Superpower, Play Rough, and maybe a few others, but that's it.
Leafeon has few moves to use for its Physical attack. What is there? Leaf Blade? Seed Bomb? Psshht. Breloom is so much better.
Glaceon's Ice typing is the biggest thing keeping her down, and I honestly have no thoughts on Espeon.
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I don't generally speak in terms of the competitively-gameplay, because honestly. I find competitively-Pokemon to be way to based on specific things working flawlessly. One tiny messup can screw up the entire game. It's one of the reasons I rarely ever play online. I play Pokemon because it's a very relaxed, and simple RPG. People online, play it like a Number calculator and honestly... I don't get the enjoyment factor out of this.
That's just how I feel. That and the fact that I don't see the appeal of meticulously catching one pokemon, breeding it till you get one with a beneficial nature and specific move sets, grinding it up and training it where it's stats are flawless and than going online to face similar people. Isn't that kinda, tryharding? Last I checked the point of games was to be fun... why is it with Pokemon, peoples opinion on fun is grinding, which nobody likes?
I prefer using Pokemon I personally like. So Jolteon is better than Raichu. Doesn't mean I'm going to swap my opinion over. So Lucario is everyone's favorite and has a mega form, doesn't mean I'm gonna use it. The way pokemon has evolved, it honestly urks me that a series designed for kids to play and have fun is populated with people that do the amount of tryharding that happens in Pokemon.
Personal thoughts aside, that is honestly how I feel. I love Pokemon, but especially since Gen VI basically simplified grinding. It's like, Nintendo knows that all people do in Pokemon is grind, so they streamlined it. I play pokemon games for the adventure and fun factor, not the grinding and strategy. There are other RPGs with a better payoff that require that, like Disgaea or the earlier Final Fantasy games.
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The Pokemon In-game is casual and relaxed, and that's what I like. But the truth is with the new breeding mechanics and other aspects being recently introduced to Pokemon have been trying to make things easier for the competitive players. The enjoyment factor is that after all of the work it takes to formulate the perfect Pokemon, they're rewarded with a powerful battler that they can use to rack up wins.
I use Pokemon I like too non-competitively. For all of the Blazikens and Palkias I've used, there have been several Torterra, Meganium, Garbodor, Serperior, and even Liepard. I'm a casual player, but I definitely do respect that competitive community because they usually know a lot of what they're talking about. There's a competitive Pokemon battle simulator where you can just change the number of EVs and IVs through a few clicks and swipes. It's pretty fun actually, and it helps one understand competitive battling a lot more easily.
My gripe with Gen. VI is that it made things a bit too easy. The Exp. Share is optional, but the AI is pathetic. I've NEVER had any trouble in Gen. VI. It's a HUGE step down from the Gen. 5. They even dumbed down the AI for OR/AS. Like- WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!
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but flaroen knows lots of fire moves! it knows embr and sunny day and flare blitz and flame
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In the past, Flareon only had Special Fire Type moves, which wasn't useful because Flareon has a High Physical attack, not Special Attack. Which resulted in Ember, Flamethrower and other such moves being weaker. On the other hand; Flare Blitz is a physical attack; so it takes advantage of Flareon's physical Attack.
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do people forget Flareon has good special attack? flamethrower or fire blast are just as useful.
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(looks at fifth generation Flareon)
...no. Still shafted. Flame Charge is the only good new move it gets, I believe.
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pfft,who need wishing when you have ACTION REPLAY!!!!
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(checks color setting on screen) Is that a shiny flareon or something? It has eevee's coloring.
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Give it an Occa Berry and it gets a Pow 80 Physical Fire attack with Natural Gift.
Yeah, it's not much, but it's the best poor Flareon is getting. Though Nitro Charge is better than nothing as it gives a speed boost...
God, would it be so hard to give the poor thing Flare Blitz?
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That is funny as hell. Flareon is fluffy yes but not one of my top favorite eeveelutions.
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Poor Flareon, having to wait until lvl 43 for the only vaguely appropriate move it gets. And then having it be a low accuracy move.
Bypasses Wonder Guard cheese, though.
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LOL ahh, so true I'm afraid! 
Haha anyway though, very cute drawing indeed. I love the way you use different line thicknesses, the effect looks great! ^^
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Flareon would be the adorable fluffball of doom if he has something like Flare Blitz to go with his awesome attack stat (that rivals that of Ho-oh)
But nope
5 gen here we come!
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Silly Flareon, making wishes is Jirachi's job! ....no wait.
Creative cute and looks great, nice job.
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Ha. I've already made my thoughts on this clear in my comment on your previous picture.
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poor thing learns Smog at level 57
Smog.
SMOG.
A 70% accurate move with poison chance and a base power of TWENTY.
TWENTY.
AT LEVEL FIFTY-SEVEN.
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But, but... it hits both opponents. That makes it good, right?
...right?
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