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TheCrimsonEmo — Robotnik Generations by-nc-nd

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This has been nagging at me to finish off for months now, It's been sitting on top of a pile of other unfinished artwork that I started around November and just haven't been able to find the motivation to finish off. But anyway here it is.
Anyone who's played and completed Sonic Generations would instantly get the reference but tbh, like most of my AOSTH Robotnik gags I often can't help but feel this was far more effort than it was worth for a random gag I had in my head. A lot of my pictures that involve AOSTH Dr. Robotnik usually start off with a random funny skit or comic strip in my head that I feel needs to be shared with the world but then halfway through I realise I've put in far too much work into trying to make this one punchline come to life and I just get tired and fustrated with it, knowing I have no choice but to either abandon it or keep going and slave over it until I'm fully satisfied with it. Bottom line is I felt I put TOO much effort into this when I knew from the start I would never be 100% satisfied with it and only a small audience in the entire WORLD would even get the joke I'm presenting. I don't hate the pic, but I felt in a small way it was kinda doomed from the start. Plus I hate the way both Robotnik's arms and thighs were drawn. I really do suck when it comes to drawing humans, Ah well.
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Ramioplz [2017-08-21 10:48:49 +0000 UTC]

classic and modern

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sonictopfan [2012-03-08 00:23:42 +0000 UTC]

unlike what Sonic Team did in Generations I'd imagine Eggman would be the smart one here while Robotnik would be the idiot, now imagine if all Robotniks/Eggmans met at the same time, Robotnik from AOSTH, Robotnik from SatAM, Classic Eggman, Modern Eggman, Eggman from Sonic 2006, Eggman in his Riders outfit, Eggman Nega, and Gerald Robotnik "what? he's somewhat an Eggman " and decided to join forces

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to sonictopfan [2012-03-08 00:53:24 +0000 UTC]

I actually wanna draw a pic of that as well, they're all in Toontown from who framed roger rabbit holding hands and skipping merrily while loads of cartoon characters run past them and the sun is singing "SMILE, DARN YA SMILE..." lol
I did this years ago which seems to be close enough to what your thinking of [link] with all the robotnik's together.

I have this other idea I really wanna do soon that you might like as well, all of Eggman/Robotnik's hentchmen in the staff canteen just chilling back on their coffee break. So you have sleet drinking coffee and dingo reading a newspaper, cobot and orbot sitting on the table with coffee, grounder microwaving a bowl of soup, scratch just standing there waiting to use the microwave, decoe and bocoe lounging around, bokkun enjoying a bowl of cereal, coconuts as the janitor with a mop angrily mopping the floors, like a real everyday staff break room, it'll be awesome!

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sonictopfan In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-08 09:45:04 +0000 UTC]

this one is very funny so is your other idea, not only that you merged the Robotniks together but also their hentchmen, now if only Snively and Robotnik from 06 made it there it would've made the pic more complete

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to sonictopfan [2012-03-08 15:55:16 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah snively will be there too. I dont see the point of sonic 06 eggman, he was really more of a one time redesign of regular modern day eggman, I can't see him ever making a comeback in future games.
Ah well.

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sonictopfan In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-08 17:19:32 +0000 UTC]

according to your logic I don't see why we had Classic Eggman in Generations as a separate character when he's basically Eggman from the earlier games, as for the "one time thing" doesn't this go for the one from AOSTH too? despite how popular the show was he only appeared in that design in the show "and the US version of Puyo Puyo" but everywhere else they either used his classic design or his SatAM one!

btw I don't know if you know this but in Sonic Arcade there was a time where SatAM Robotnik was going to be used instead of classic Eggman, glad we didn't get that, I pretty much prefer his Japanese design especially that the game uses Japanese voices!

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to sonictopfan [2012-03-08 18:35:59 +0000 UTC]

What I mean is you only see sonic 06 eggman once and only once, in that one game. you see AOSTH robotnik and SATAM Robotnik in entire running TV series, comic books, childrens books, merchendise, etc. Its not the same.

Yeah I heard about that once, I think I even seen it actually, that would of been wierd as hell! Like a twilight zone episode or something.

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sonictopfan In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-09 00:17:50 +0000 UTC]

again only in the TV show, every other place they use the one from SatAM not AOSTH, truth be said he's only popular because of the retro fans who grew up with the show, no other reason!

yeah there were screenshot rips from the game too

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to sonictopfan [2012-03-09 00:35:54 +0000 UTC]

Sonic the comic!
He was in some childrens books as well in the UK, "where's sonic?"
Its actually really wierd, I have this book about SatAM but it uses AOSTH Robotnik instead of SatAM one.
I'm sure you can read about it in sonic retro somewhere.
I have this other really old sonic book that centres around sonic 1, 2 and 3 as well, they use classic eggman only he has a red mousetache and no eyeballs, its creepy as hell! Pretty sure it was a spin-off the fleetway series as the really early comics had eggman like that.

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sonictopfan In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-09 11:57:27 +0000 UTC]

he was in STC? wait all the issues I got had the one from the games, that's actually one of the things I liked about STC, they stuck with the games rather than what Archie did to make up stupid plots!

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to sonictopfan [2012-03-09 15:19:00 +0000 UTC]

Have you just got the early issues of STC only? They've been using AOSTH robotnik as the main villain throughout the comic pretty much since the same time AOSTH first aired, right up to the Sonic Adventure era. I fact they didnt even use modern eggman past that point, they just kept AOSTH Robotnik and gave him new clothes.

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sonictopfan In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-09 19:05:34 +0000 UTC]

as a matter of fact yeah I only found the first few ones as a kid, I didn't even get to meet Amy, but I downloaded them off the internet and took a peep at some of them, didn't read any though!

uh I didn't know that it sure is a disappointment to me because the best thing I liked in STC was the fact they didn't change much from the games whileas both Archie and the mangas changed a lot, especially Archie!

wait now that I think about it, I did check some of the STCO ones, just went through them very quickly, and I could've sworn I saw Eggman from Sonic Adventure in them

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to sonictopfan [2012-03-10 02:34:03 +0000 UTC]

lol you're so innocent in the mind like when I told you The Mask originated from an adult gritty comic book and you couldn't take it.
Nah STC is kinda like archie, it follows more closely to the games but it still does it's own thing mainly and has plenty of its own characters. In many ways its probably actually worse than archie as it has its own tale of the origins of each character, like Sonic is from the Emerald Hill Zone instead of the Green Hill Zone, Tails met Sonic because he was sinking in a mud pit in the nameless zone, and apparently knuckles was from the same clan as Tikal and her tribe and worked for her father but due to sonic accidently time traveling to that era was forced to take knuckles back with him to his era (or something like that, I barely remember it)
Also Shadow was created by knuckles arch nemesis Dr. Zachary rather than by Prof Gerald Robotnik who doesnt exist in this timeline, and sonic got his green eyes because he merged with Chaos 0 (who can talk in the comics and looks nothing like chaos in the games)

One thing that is interesting though is that even though they use AOSTH robotnik in STC he's not silly or goofy, they actually made him probably the darkest and most sadistic version of robotnik out there, even far more so than the SatAM incarnation. And Since you prefer Robotnik being dark you'd probably favour this version more.

One thing I really don't like about STC is how all the characters tend to speak with stereotypical northern english accents. I don't know if the writers even realised they were doing it or if it just felt natural to them, but to me its really wierd and hard to take seriously. Its just little words they say here and there, I can't really think of any examples. It's just y'know Sonic and his friends being from a completely different planet yet speaking in northern english accents, it cant be taken seriously.

One thing you'll like is that charmy bee has an interesting origins story, I think archie has the exact same origins story, not sure if ones stolen from the other (which would be interesting as that means the two comic pubishers must probably read and 'borrow' ideas from each other constantly... seriously I always wondered what Ebony and Pyjamas were doing in archie comics...) anyway in one of the side storys sonic is staying with the chaotix and charmys getting on sonics nerves then some royal bee guards come demanding to take him away, sonic tries to stop them (or doesnt try) and charmy explains how he's actually a prince from a bee hive in space where they make gold instead of honey and the queen demands charmy come home and rule by her side. So sonic goes along with charmy as his escort to see what the hive is all about, then the place is attacked by the bee's arch nemisis, the wasp clan who are trying to assasinate the queen and take her throne. I'll spare you the rest of the details and let you enjoy that for yourself. I seriously could of swarn archie later did the exact same thing though...

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sonictopfan In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-11 00:20:16 +0000 UTC]

wow I sure had a different image of the comics back then, really I only read the first ones I don't think I even got to where Amy and Metalix appeared

lol you know me well, I was just gonna say "I actually like that they made Robotnik darker and more serious, awesome take, only why did they change his design to the goofy one from AOSTH? he doesn't even look threatening like he was in the original games, oh well

I don't understand what accent are you talking about, I'm not that deep in English to realize this, but I did notice the writings in those comics were a lot easier for us to understand than those from Archie, they were "non-native friendly" and easy to understand for those who can speak weak English, believe me my English was even worse back then than it is today "is it even possible?" but I could still understand and adore the comics as a kid

you know I swear I heard parts of this story before in Archie comics, but the whole Charmy being a prince thing is, of what I heard, from the American manuals for Knuckles Chaotix, anyway you're right both comics DID borrow from each other, however I'm not sure which one did things first, you'd be surprised the very first story about how Sonic and Robotnik changed, Sonic turned blue "he used to be a brown hedgehog" and Robotnik turned from good to evil, this same exact story started BOTH comics, I read them both actually, same story with two different art styles, I can show them to you too if you want!

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to sonictopfan [2012-03-11 02:13:15 +0000 UTC]

Well even though they used his AOSTH design they made him look threatening and even creepy at times. Like he doesn't look 'cartoony' or anything, its far more detailed, his lip sticks out, he has a HUGE body, red piercing eyes, check out the comics sometime, have a quick skim through them and see for yourself. I can't think of any issue number in particular, you'll just have to flick through them.
It does get interesting near the end of the comics though because like in archie (one story borrowed from the other?) robotnik just goes mad and has a breakdown from constanly losing to sonic all the time and becomes mentally insane and depressed, he then releases chaos from the master emerald, knowing full well that chaos wants to destroy the world then he just sits there depressed waiting for the woeld to end. Sonic stops him obviously and from that point on robotnik becomes completely insane, like up to the point where he's always drooling, can no longer speak and only thinks of destroying sonic.
You'll see it when you get to it, they carry this on with the online comics as well. (In fact I think it was them that started it)

yeah its probably only english and americans who would notice it, I think both comics use their own versions of slang talk here and there, it doesnt bother me so much in the archie comics because you know its based off SATAM and you probably have Jaleel White in your head while reading sonics lines anyway, so it works in a way, but with the UK version its just hard to imagine the characters speaking with Nothern English dialect when they're clearly not brittish. kinda pisses me off in a way.

yeah I knew of this before, I havent seen the archie version of it though, ah dont worry about it, you already sent me a link to that tails kicks ass website that has all the comics. Come to think of it I really should get a move on and download them all before SOPA or PIPA kicks in and they all get taken down... oh god I hope they havent already! Does that site still get updated do you know?

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sonictopfan In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-11 02:32:20 +0000 UTC]

hmm... I see learn something new everyday!

I dunno I don't see what's the big deal if Sonic spoke with a British accent in the European comics, it makes perfect sense to me, like why would Sonic speak Japanese in the mangas?

like when I was young I used to make fan comics with Sonic characters speaking in Arabic, but then someday I thought "what if someday i got the chance to have the world read my comics" so I started writing them in English instead, my class mates didn't mind that and eventually it did happen and here I am now, of course I didn't get to scan like 10% of the comics I done during the years, or any of my older arts that I may still have them somewhere, but eh I couldn't care for those anymore!

well I haven't checked it since last month, I should probably check it again and get the latest issues, but yeah Tails Kicks Ass has both of these comics I told you about, you'd be surprised of how detailed the story is in both comics, there's noway in hell the company that stole it from the other can claim it's just a coincidence, that'll be like saying Windows and Mac both using a mouse is just a coincidence!

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AngusMcTavish [2012-03-07 20:45:34 +0000 UTC]

Wonder what AoStH Robotnik would have said as he heard Eggman's whooping laugh?

We hear: Wow. Will I really get that crazy?

SILENCE!!

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TheCrimsonEmo In reply to AngusMcTavish [2012-03-07 23:08:42 +0000 UTC]

You're doing it WRONG you Worthless Wimp! LET ME!!
Nooooooo! It's MY Machine!!

Defeat me? You and what mousetache? I've been...
NO ONES TALKING TO YOU, YOU TURD BURGLING MONKEY WRRRENTCH!!! YOU CATHOLIC CRRROSSDRRRRESSER! YOU SIMEON SIMPLETON! YOU HOLIDAY HOMEWRRRRREECKER! YOU CHINESE TRRRAVEL AGENT!! YOU LESBIAN ATHLETE!! YOU STUPIDO! YOU...!! YOU...!!! I NEVER WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN, YOU MAKE ME SICK!!
Less talking, more destroying!
BWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAA! AAAHHHAAAHAAAAHAA AHHHAHHAAHHAAAHAAAAAAAA....

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AngusMcTavish In reply to TheCrimsonEmo [2012-03-08 06:11:46 +0000 UTC]

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