HOME | DD
TheDarknessArt — Sick Minds
Published: 2012-03-10 21:43:21 +0000 UTC; Views: 10765; Favourites: 409; Downloads: 69
Redirect to original
Description
Sick Minds ... Don't let them get out!
[Another fanart by me from the Anime and Manga: Elfen Lied]
Made with: HB, 2B & 8B pencil ... Size: A4
I hope you like it!
------
Edit:
29-03-2012
... LOL 99 comments and 99 Favourites!
Just one more!
^^^
31-03-2012
YAAY exactly 100 comments and 100 Favourites!!!
***
200+ favs and comments!!!
Related content
Comments: 352
Can someone please explain to me why I should feel mercy and compassion about a sadistic and cruel race of monsters who murder their parents at age 3, slaughter the neighborhood, want to infect us all, and kill hundreds of innocent unarmed civilians, men, women, and children???
👍: 0 ⏩: 3
Yeah, go tell them that before they mercilessly slaughter you while laughing like maniacs!
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Maybe if humans treated them better they wouldn’t be a “sadistic and cruel race of monsters”. They didn’t even show evidence when they stated that they killed their parent at the age of 3. The way they act depends on their mental state just like humans.
I mean Nanna was still able to love her “father” even though he was just standing there watching her getting tortured. Mariko was only allowed to get out of her torture chamber if she killed others so she was never thought any better. Lucy was treated badly most of her childhood (of course that doesn’t justify killing innocent people) but I would definitely not call all the killed ones innocent.
And what about the humans? They killed newborn diclonius because of their race, those who wasn’t killed was tortured and experimented on, so they pretty much acted as a catalys for the diclonius killing humans. So the humans is not any better in my opinion.
Sorry for the long message but I thought your question was interesting! X.X
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I'm glad I found someone that instead of calling me a troll took the time to explain and argue her point of view and don't worry I love long argued answers.
I never said the humans were good either, but that's the problem right there! There is no good guys here; we have twisted sadistic human assholes VS twisted sadistic diclonius bitches. Who am I supposed to cheer for???
It's just a mindless cruelty contest.
No one tries to help/improve human/diclonius relationships.
Look at the X-Men, they tried to improve human/mutant relationships nicely; yes, Magneto's Brotherhood of mutants had ruthless methods towards humans but at least they wanted to protect mutants. On the other hand Diclonius don't even give a shit about their own race (Lucy dismembered Nana, Nice! Mariko tried to kill Nana and Lucy). They just want to kill everyone on sight just for shits and giggles!
And I think even the cruelty is forced :
Would real policeman really fire at a little girl?
Would real kindergartner really kill a dog just for fun? And are there no adults in kindergarten?
Why did the human boss tell Kurama to kill his daughter because "she's useless"? You just had to remplace her legs and arms by robotic body parts and she would still be useful ; that's even what they did after!
How can you hide something from your boss in a top secret governmental organization?
Why would the Special Forces hire crazy trigger happy maniacs?
As for "They didn’t even show evidence when they stated that they killed their parent at the age of 3". Yes! They showed it! A group of Special Forces enters a building where everyone has been killed except a little Diclonius girl who is probably 3 , then she kills 2 guys and is killed by the rest of the team.
👍: 0 ⏩: 3
"Who am I supposed to cheer for???"
Yeah... that's kind of the point. Very little is black-and-white in the series... huh, kind of like our own world of controversial debates that people argue back and forth over endlessly. What message of hope is there after you've killed your only friend's family over a white lie (Lucy)? What message of hope is there when you realize you've been living with the girl who massacred your sister and father (Kouta)? What message of hope is there when you're forced into the responsibility to kill people's newborns because of a simple genetic change yet selfishly keep your own daughter alive despite having the same genetic differences (Kurama)? What message of hope is there when all you have to keep you sane in a life of torturous experiments and permanent isolation is a "father" who can't even stay too close to you because he works for the bastard who locked you up and forces you to make sense of the maze called "society" by yourself (Nana)? There isn't, and I for one find that refreshing; Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the shows and movies that give off a sense of hope and positivity, but seeing a series that isn't afraid to give a huge dose of cold reality for once and hold nothing back is a nice change of pace. Not to say I want more franchises like Elfen Lied (otherwise there'd be WAY more migraine-inducing controversies than there are already), just that it's a nice temporary breather from all the hopeful philosphies and positive themes being churned out endlessly these days.
And of course no one's trying to help human/diclonius relationships. The X-Men and their struggles are hardly comparable to those of the Diclonius. Why? Because Marvel's mutants actually have a public voice. The Diclonius, meanwhile, do not; Nobody even knew they existed aside from the researchers under Kakuzawa and the government backing him. Kouta didn't even know until after he saw Lucy ripping people apart months after she gained the Nyu personality and started living with him, and the knowledge of the Diclonius existence in the public eye was only made possible in the very end of the series. At least the mutants are established to be known in the public eye and live with regular people, while Diclonius are kept prisoner in labs since birth and nobody knows them to exist, and the people who do know they exist are led to believe they're monsters bent on mankind's extinction.
Kind of hard to improve race relations when one of the races doesn't exist in the public eye and those who do know them only think they're monsters.
As for the whole "kindergartner killing a dog just for fun", it was pretty well established that these AREN'T regular kintergartners. These are orphans raised in orphanages which are already known to suck for kids, on top of staff and caretakers who clearly don't care that much considering they let kids bully each other (if the fact that two of them talked shit about younger Lucy being sick is any indication). Lucy's motto of "miserable people finding something more miserable to feel better" comes exactly from this experience of kids feeling miserable when people don't want to adopt them and take it out on other kids. These aren't kids who go home to loving families and live comfortably, these are kids who were rejected by potential adopters and not cared for enough by the orphanage staff, and feel they have to vent by taking it out on other kids. Not to mention that Tomoo (the kid) didn't kill the puppy for fun at all, he killed it to get at Lucy because she wasn't giving him the satisfation of getting angry when he bullied her before (which worked, for better or worse).
And as for the incest... not really "incest", at least not in an objective sense. Marrying cousins is perfectly legal in Japan and not at all seen as taboo (hell, it's even legal in certain U.S states and European countries including the UK), so if there's a problem with cousin weddings, take it up with the governments. Might be worth noting that, in the anime at least, Kouta, Yuka and Lucy are all at least 18.
I will agree that the ecchi and nudity were more than an annoyance, though. I always found it ironic that I could be just fine with watching Lucy tear apart guards and soldiers in extremely gory fashion yet almost legitimately vomited when the pissing scene happened and facepalmed more than once whenever one of the girls was in a shot where their underwear was exposed. Look, I typically don't have anything against fanservice, but this series took it more than a bit too far with that.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
As I said the drawing is beautiful, but it accurately represents the problem.
It even says it "Sick Minds ... Don't let them get out! "
How can I love some sick twisted psychopaths who could snap at any moment and slaughter everyone without any reason? I just can't.
Check wikipedia if you don't believe me...
Tendency manslaughter: at about three or four years, the diclonius children show their aggressiveness: their own parents/ relatives are usually the first victims.
Lucy, asserts " having been born to destroy the human race." Nice!
Still wanting to defend them?!?
When orcs/ dragons/ undeads/ demons or other monsters slaughter humans it's perfectly fine to kill them, but if the monsters look like little girls it's bad to kill them? The result is the same if we don't stop them, they won't stop themselves!
Even when Kota saves Lucy, hides her, feeds her and protects her, she wakes up and immediately wants to kill him. Thanks ungrateful bitch!
I precise one point: I love brutal gory FIGHTS not one-sided beat downs or torture porns, they're boring since you already know the outcome.
The victim is going to die, LOL, what a twist!
Even John Connor educated the Terminator in the second film, he told him it was bad to kill humans; so he wounded them instead of killing them. Never did Kota do anything to stop Lucy from killing!
Take for exemple Nanaki (Red 13) in Final Fantasy 7, Hojo captured him, did horrible experiments on him , tatooed him but he still kept his brave, noble and kind heart! That's a real hero and I remind you that he is an animal; and he's capable of more love, feelings and human warmth then that stupid yandere bitch Lucy.
I always thought that the author from Elfen Lied thought to himself:" I'll show everyone that I have the balls to write the most disturbing and shocking manga ever made". Well, sorry to tell you but:
shocking + shocking + shocking + shocking = shocking manga but does not equal good manga.
There's no message of hope; I'll explain: in Hokuto No Ken (Fist Of the North Star), it's a post-nuclear apocalyptic future with blood-thirsty punks and dictators who torture and toy with people, and with no seas, forets only deserts. but after all the gory battles (in the first movie), we see that plants can still grow on this cursed land and Kenshiro finds a huge forest with water, which shows that in the same way as there is still greenery on the Earth, there is also still kindness in the heart of mankind. That's a fucking good message of hope! Elfen Lied has nothing, it just ends! Really hard work! 4 hours of torture porn for nothing!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ojDn…
Even worse, at the end of most stories the heroes worked really hard to make the world a better place, right? In HNK, Kenshiro saved the people from punks and tyrannical overlords, Cloud and his team saved the Earth from Shinra and Sephiroth, Sangoku from aliens overlords, Sonic from Dr.Robotnik etc, etc... What did Lucy do to make the world better?
Or even better what changed in the ending of the show from the beginning?
- Diclonus still exist, hate humans and kill them.
- Humans still exist, hate Diclonus and kill them.
- Even the big boss from the humans who was a male diclonus in disguise is still alive at the end.
So what did change?????
If only Lucy had done SOMETHING!!!
Or an other twist, Lucy could have freed her sisters and took over the world, and after that done to humans what they did to her race. At least Lucy would have had a clear goal or motivation and acted logical but no.
Try answering this question:
What is Lucy's goal?
- Try to help and save her sisters in captivity? NOPE! She tries to kill them and never gives a shit about them (REMEMBER WHEN SHE DISMEMBERED NANA JUST FOR FUN IN THE CEMETERY!?!?!?! With this sadistic face while saying "Does it hurt?" AND NO I'M NEVER GETTING OVER THIS SCENE! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE HERO AND SAVE YOUR RACE NOT TRY TO KILL IT!!! I WILL HAVE NO COMPASSION IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS TO YOU!) I remind you that she is supposed to be their queen! What a joke!
- Prove to the humans that they're wrong and that Diclonus are not blood-thirsty killer monsters? NOPE! She kills everyone on sight and after that she wonders why she doesn't have any friend... alive. LOL
- Kill all humans and try to take over the world! NOPE! she stays at Kota's home half naked while speaking like a Pokemon "Nyu, Nyu".
So please tell me, what is her goal?
At one time, someone told that vectors had other purposes than killing and infecting humans... THEN FUCKING SHOW IT! Couldn't she use them to, I don't know...:
- Perform some magic tricks (it would be really easy with invisible arms).
- Do some massage.
- Help in the kitchen.
- Play Tennis with 5 people.
- Save people's life from falling.
- Clean something really fast.
- Do multiple jobs faster.
- Play with the kids.
I don't know, if you want to convince us that they can be nice then fucking show us that they can do something else then killing with their vectors.
I can still continue, I find the manga ugly from a drawing point of view and the author tried to mix too much genres together.
"Elfen Lied does not classify easily in a unique genre, because the work contains elements of horror, comedy, drama, romance, action, science fiction and suspense." That feels like a shitty marketing plan!
And you know what? I have the same problem with Mirai Nikki as with Elfen Lied.
- Dumb as a brick effeminate and useless male protagonist.
- Twisted blood-thirsty sadistic yandere girl protagonist that we can't sympathise with.
- Shitty ass nonsensical ending.
- The only good thing was the music.
Even the protagonists look alike:
Kota: images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__c…
Yukiteru: images4.fanpop.com/image/photo…
Yuno: images4.alphacoders.com/275/27…
Lucy: images2.alphacoders.com/150/15…
Bonus: img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20…
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Uh... why the hell would Lucy give a damn for her fellow Diclonius? Just because they went through the same shit she did in the labs? You act like she owes them or something... news flash, she doesn't. By that logic, every single one of us should be up in arms whenever a rape happens somewhere around the world; it's awful, definitely, but we aren't involved, so we don't really care as much as we would if it were someone close to us.
Even more, why on Earth should Lucy feel like she has to change the world? For as long as she could remember, the world's kept beating her down and punishing her for trying to integrate into normal human society. Every single time she tries to make a human friend (Kouta, Aiko), it seems that the world punishes her just for trying. 1.) Why should she give a damn about proving humanity wrong about her? In her eyes, WE are the monsters for discriminating against her just for her horns and accusing her of being the monster when humans are the ones that have committed worse atroctiies. She doesn't owe us shit, and doesn't think we're worthy of proving anything to. She doesn't care about changing the world, because the world has done absolutely nothing to deserve it. If anything, she would rather the world be gone because all it's ever done is cause her pain.
Lucy's only goal is to be able to show Kouta that she is legitimately and genuinely sorry that she killed his family. She knows she doesn't deserve forgivness and especially knows that she'll never be able to make up for doing that to him, it's why she's not surprised when Kouta says he'll never forgive her in the manga. That's why she's perfectly fine with Kouta hating her and only wanting her around because she carries the peaceful Nyu in her.
I don't know where you got the idea that she's a yandere, but you're plain wrong; She does love Kouta, but she knows she doesn't deserve to be with him. As soon as she delivers the message that she's truly sorry for what she did to him and his family, that's it for her. In the anime, it seemed pretty clear that Lucy intended to commit suicide by letting the soldiers shoot her to death after that scene with Kouta in the final episode, because after apologizing to Kouta she had nothing left to live for. In the manga, she pushes herself way over her limit to heal Kouta even though her own body is literally melting because she feels like she owes it to him, not because she wants to get in his pants. Yanderes want to be with the one they love, while Lucy just wants to apologize to Kouta, and then leave his life for good and off herself from this world.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Then If that yandere bitch doesn't give a damn about anything especially her own race, why the hell SHOULD I CARE ABOUT HER!?! It's not like she was their queen or something... oh wait... and she kills her own species and brother because... because we are super grim dark edgy and mature! LOL!!!
I would like to see your open-mindedness if you saw her killing your own family in front of you for no fucking reasons!
Elfen Lied is not a story: it's just a cruelty contest! or a "Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy":
"Ruined World + cast of Jerk = I don't care what happens to these guys"
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php…
Even the whole nature VS nurture is thrown out the window since apparently they have a DNA personality who suggest them to exterminate all humanity; so even if we would have been nice to them: they would have freaked out at some random point and still killed everyone so no I still don't have an inch of sympathy for them! In MY EYES THEY are the genocidal monsters who kill everyone carelessly AND THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED! EXTINCTION!!! GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
Like Duke Nukem would say: You're an inspiration for birth control!
Always Chaotic Evil: It's repeatedly stated in-universe that Diclonii are genetically programmed to hate humans and want them dead.
Yandere: Played Up to Eleven. As it turns out, the reason she killed Kouta's father and sister was that she was angry at Kouta for lying to her and saying that the cousin he was going round the festival with was a boy instead of a girl (apparently, even if Kouta did tell her it was a girl, someone was going to die anyway).
And yes she's a yandere: yandere-girls.fandom.com/wiki/…
But if that's your thing go watch some torture porns if you like senseless violence and distasteful people that much!
I've got better things to watch with characters WHO CARE about their friends and aren't a YANDERE GENOCIDAL SYCHO BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And again if they were dragons/ undeads/ orcs/ goblins or something else instead of naked big breasted loli girls nobody would have given a shit about them!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
*Facepalms* If your only evidence that she is a yandere is that she's on a yandere wiki, you're just uneducated. And wrong. A yandere is, quote, "Somebody who is sweet and kind at first glance. But when it comes to their love (crush) they will act obsessive and violent". That is NOT Lucy. Again, anyone who knows anything about yanderes know that they want to be with the person they love and hurt anyone considered competition, but Lucy... just wants to apologize to Kouta and then get out of his life and everyone else's. That is most certainly not what a yandere would do; if she was, she would've killed Yuka and kept Kouta for herself... huh, that's the exact opposite of what she did: Letting Yuka live and wanting Kouta to live how he wants to without Lucy herself in the picture.
And enough with that pathetic argument of "what if she killed me family?" That argument is just petty, because she wouldn't kill my family anymore. After she escaped Kakuzawa's facility and gained split-personality disorder, she actually stops killing for no reason (the only exception being enemies who want to kidnap or kill her and whenever she loses control of the DNA Voice). She only killed families before she met Aiko, or did you not read the manga at all which is more accurate and canon than the anime? That, and Lucy also wouldn't kill my family because she doesn't exist in reality, so she could never get us even if she wanted to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Again, just becaue she's the Diclonius queen, why does that mean she has to care about them? It doesn't, there's no logical reason why she should. In case you didn't know, she didn't ask to be the Diclonius Queen, hell she didn't even ask to be a Diclonius in the first place. In the manga, she even goes out of her way to stop and kill rampant Diclonius so that they won't spread and kill off humanity, as proven when she sank an island and drowned the Clone Diclonius with the facility they were on.
And by your logic, humans are even more genocidal monsters than any Diclonius. Diclonii don't nuke cities with nuclear bombs or discriminate based on skin color or make people suffer for being different. A big theme in the series is that humanity is even more of a monster than Diclonii; just look at the Kakuzawas, who were never Diclonii but had no problem killing babies. In the series end, humans killed the rest of the Diclonius race - every single one except Nana - so THAT is genocide. Literally the definition of genocide ("the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation"). So we are just the same as Diclonii in that way, we're not better than them or superior. Both the Diclonii and humans are genocidal monsters, all that happened is one monster killed another monster.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
oh my god if they had done something sexual to the diclonius i'm going to be sick.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I try my best to give a serious answer to every comment I get on my art. Sadly I have been very busy with school so I don’t always have time to answer right away and I therefore apologize for the late reply. I find long arguments interesting as well! :3
Ok I see your point. You got very good arguments.
Not all of them are cruel though, Mayu is a kind soul who helps Nanna even though she was mistreated herself, I think she is the kindest characters in the anime. I sympathize with her, Mariko etc. because of the situation they are/were in and because of them not having a loving parent(s) by their site and being mistreated and looked down upon by the society.
I think the reason people sympathize with the characters is because you get a personal insight of their story and all the hardship they have been through, understanding why they turned out the way they did, did influence me.
The small act of kindness toward the diclonius did matter, and it was there. I disagree with you writing that they kill each other for fun. Mariko did it because it was the only thing she was allowed to do, and having a child mentality, she was only “playing” with her “sisters” in her mind. Again I feel sorry for her because of that.
Again I see your point, which scene are you referring to when you mention the little girl?
I think the kindergartner scene was meant to illustrate that the amount of cruelty, no matter how old you are, are limitless.
I think the boss told Kurama to kill his daughter because she is a diclonius. I don’t recall them replacing her legs only one arm that was blown up, the reason she couldn’t walk is because she had been trapped her whole life inside the lab. I think the boss knew at the time, and that is why she was kept the way she was, I mean Kurama’s colleges knew so I don’t think it was a secret, if it was I imagine him keeping her a better place and not using her as a toll to kill/capture the other diclonius.
They hired Bando because they were very desperate to capture Lucy, even though he failed miserably, but thinking about it I don’t think they would have many volunteers for the job.
True they showed a girl killing people, but they didn’t show her killing her parents. I think it was a cover up to make all the diclonius seem even more dangerous, (I know she was dangerous but they came to take her back to her hell or to kill her. I think they just tried to give all the diclonius an even worse name) ... but I might be mistaken.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Mayu doesn't count, she's a human not a diclonius!
You know when I play with my little brother, I don't try to kill him.
Just saying...
I've read and heard so many good things about Elfen Lied (yeah, it's a classic, a must watch, blablabla,etc...) and when I saw it, I was like : "what? That's all?..."
Sorry if that shocks you but except the gory bloody fight scenes, the rest was boring as shit.
- The useless incestious love triangle. Nice!
- The bland dumb as a brick male character who could honestly have been mute and it wouldn't have changed anything.
- The dumbass overly jealous cousin.
- The useless fan service (sorry but I absolutely HATE ecchi/harems).
- The over use of out of nowhere nudity. (Honestly does that shock only me to see under aged kids naked?!?!
Thank you japanese perverts and your Lolicon!)
- The fact that the guy FORGETS the face of the girl WHO KILLED HIS SISTER AND FATHER IN FRONT OF HIM!!!
- The pointless amnesia for Lucy (I really hate that plot point, how can you forget your name, your memory, to dress up, to undress, to go to the toilet... and than all of a sudden regain your memory but than reforget all what you remembered ,etc)
- The shitty ass kid humor (Lucy pissed herself, it's funny HAHAHAHA!) or even better a teenage girl who wears diapers HAHAHAHAHAHA it's so funny; NO IT IS NOT!!!
- So many people told me Lucy has a complex personality... NOPE! It's just:
1) Slutty, horny and bare naked anime kitty girl. (Nyu)
2) Hero of a FPS video-games(Duke Nukem, Doom, Wolfenstein...) EXTERMINATE EVERYTHING ON SIGHT!!!(Lucy)
That's not complex at all!
So please explain to me what did people like in this series, I really want to know...
And don't get me started on the shitty ass cliff hanger ending, after all this, it's just "THE END" (It's like the developper saying : OK we've wasted enough of your time so we're done!) I've heard so many people said they cried... I was just like : "So what life lesson I am supposed to learn from all this miss? Be a horrible monster that kills every one? Except the bland dumb as a brick male character who forgives you for KILLING HIS SISTER AND FATHER IN FRONT OF HIM WHEN HE WAS YOUNG! (The only character I wanted to see dead from the very beginning and he lived! Damn!)
One last thing, you want to tell a dark, edgy, twisted story; fine, then tell it! And don't waste our time with a boring ass love triangle (the ultimate time-waster in good anime); Lucy isn't even the main protagonist! It's that dumbass girly effeminate boy!
(I'm a fan of old anime like Hokuto No Ken(Fist Of The North Star) where protagonists are adults, not boys and they look like men not girls! I'm sick and tired of all the androgynus characters in modern anime... And yes, I know androgyny is a thing in Japan but that doesn't mean I have to like it!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yes she does! She and Nanna are kind to each other even though they are human and diclonius! (And we were talking about how aweful humans and diclonius were to each other so yes she does count)...
Maybe it’s because you are not a diclonius who have been trapped your entire life, dreaming about the outside and a happy family and only being able to get out if you kill, while you are still at a very young age. Just saying...
Well you can’t satisfy everyone now can you? I like it a lot, my good friend, who likes almost everything I do, didn’t because she had high expectations like you, while I didn’t. But that is just too bad. I know it’s not amazing but I still like it. That is just our different personal opinion…
I don’t agree entirely, but I enjoyed the gory bloody fights the most.
Ok ok ok I agree I hated the love triangle as well!
LOL! Can’t really disagree with that! xD
Don’t apologize I hate ecchi as well! xP
Not sure I mean if you don’t need clothes when you get tortured… and all that blood I mean it would be a pain to clean that all the time and change them so I guess it’s the easy solution … but what do I know I don’t torture people…
Trauma … simple as that …
Hmm I don’t know how the diclonius mind works I mean she did survive a bullet to the head…
Did people find that funny? It’s just to show that her mind returned to an earlier state in life … I think.
Ok I see your point I hated the ending as well and I also dislike Lucy. You really don’t see the point …. if that is the way you see it there is really nothing to do about that … I think there is a deep meaning to it, not the ending but the story that lead to it. I dislike the ending but like the story because of the different perspectives it shows of society and humanity in general. But everyone got their own opinion…
Lucy is one of the protagonists in the story you know … as I said I chose to look further than the stupid love triangle thing. I enjoy the themes and the dark past of the characters and I just love Mariko. But if you can’t see past the stupid things then of course you can’t enjoy the good ones.
Nobody is forcing you to like them or anything. I don’t see what the big deal is I mean if you don’t like them then don’t watch it, there is extremely many old anime that keeps the style you like, so why don’t you just stick to looking at them instead. I mean I don’t like the old anime drawing style that much so I stick to the newer ones…
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I can sum up the series with this: "It's the story of kids getting killed and tortured".
4 hours of anime just to see people suffering. Yayyyy!
I just find that twisted and unpleasant.
No morality, no intelligent reflection, no message of hope, NOPE! Just gore and tits and ass in your face and the dirty humor of a 5 year old kid (diapers). Even Michael Bay doesn't have such a dirty humor.
As usual, it is always the fault from the miserable human beings who dare to defend themselves from these merciless and sadistic monsters which behead them, slaughter them, contaminate them with their vectors, all this while laughing!
We always spit at the human beings because they kill diclonus babies although they massacre their parents at 3 years old; while nobody blames Lucy for having infected the human beings and wanting to exterminate the human race.
"True they showed a girl killing people, but they didn’t show her killing her parents. I think it was a cover up to make all the diclonius seem even more dangerous, (I know she was dangerous but they came to take her back to her hell or to kill her. I think they just tried to give all the diclonius an even worse name) ... but I might be mistaken."
Yes you are, the Special Forces entered a building full of dead murdered people and I really don't think they all commited suicide just for fun! And most of all the little girl, the only survivor, killed 2 of the guys with a sadistic look on her face before she was killed by the rest of the team; so, isn't it obvious that she killed them all? And I precise that the cops weren't sent to kill her or to "take her back to hell", they didn't even know there was a Diclonus girl inside; They were just sent to secure the building because of all the dead corpses.
Furthermore, Lucy did the same thing when she ran from home, she rested one day in each home she invaded while killing everyone inside. So, do you still think they're just cute little girls?
If your so "poor misunderstood harmless" Diclonus girls would really exist, they would have killed us all, so go now, defend them if you want.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Well that is not a very accurate summary now is it? Hey it’s your own choice, if you don’t want to watch people suffering for 4 hours then try to avoid horror/splatter anime…
Sigh I strongly disagree with you! You got a very immature view of the series, just because they are naked “they through ass and tits at your face” seriously? There is a purpose for all of it, you sadly just missed it all or chose not to see it… You simple don’t understand because you don’t want to thanks to your negative attitude toward the series…
Neither do I but I still don’t think she killed her parents. Her parents probably got killed by humans. Yes they might try to kill some humans but it will all be because of the stupidity of those humans (while some might be innocent, but that goes for both sides)! If you were a diclonius I don’t think you would just sit back watching while your kind got brutally murdered… Both sides are trying to defend themselves in a pointless "war", but that again is a think I like about the series because it makes me think about their situation, from both perspectives.
When did I say I thought of them as “just cute little girls”? Yes they are cute and awesome creatures in my opinion and I like them a lot, since they are much more entertaining than normal human beings (again just my opinion).
This discussion started interesting but is getting very pointless and annoying, since we pretty much repeat ourselves, so let’s just end it with you got your opinion and I got mine…
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
OK, then I'm going to try to vary my arguments.
As I said your drawing is beautiful, but it accurately represents the problem.
You even said it yourself "Sick Minds ... Don't let them get out!
How can I love some sick twisted psychopaths who could snap at any moment and slaughter everyone without any reason? I just can't.
Check wikipedia if you don't believe me...
Tendency manslaughter: at about three or four years, the diclonius children show their aggressiveness: their own parents/relatives are
usually the first victimes.
Lucy, asserts " having been born to destroy the human race." Nice!
Still wanting to defend them?!?
When orcs/dragons/undead/demons or other monsters slaughter humans it's perfectly okay to kill them, but if the monsters look like
little girls it's bad to kill them? The result is the same if we don't stop them, they won't stop themselves!
Even when Kota saves Lucy, hides her, feeds her and protects her, she wakes up and immediately wants to kill him. Thanks ungrateful
bitch!
I precise one point: I love brutal gory FIGHTS not one-sided beat downs or torture, they're boring since you already know the outcome.
The victim is going to die,LOL, what a twist!
Even John Connor educated the Terminator in the 2 film, he told him it was bad to kill humans; so he wounded them instead of killing
them. Never did Kota do anything to stop Lucy from killing!
Take for exemple Nanaki(Red 13) in FF7, Hojo captured him, did horrible experiments on him , tatooed him but he still kept his brave,
noble and kind heart! That's a real hero and I remind you that he is an animal; and he's capable of more love and human warmth then
Lucy.
I always thought that the author from Elfen Lied thought to himself:" I'll show everyone that I have the balls to write the most
disturbing and shocking manga ever made". Sorry to tell you but:
shocking + shocking + shocking + shocking = shocking manga but not always good manga.
There's no message of hope; I'll explain: in Hokuto No Ken(Fist Of the North Star), it's a post-nuclear apocalyptic future with
blood-thirsty punks and dictators who torture and toy with people, and with no seas, forets only deserts. but after all the battles
(in the first movie), we see that plants can still grow on this cursed land and Kenshiro finds a huge forest with water (which shows
that in the same way as there is still greenery on the Earth, there is also still kindness in the heart of mankind. That's a fucking
good message of hope! Elfen Lied has nothing, it just ends! Really hard work!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ojDn…
Even worse, at the end of most stories the heroes worked really hard to make the world a better place, right? In HNK, Kenshiro saved
the people from punks and tyrannical overlords, Cloud and his team saved the Earth from Shinra and Sephiroth, Sangoku from aliens
overlords, Sonic from Dr.Robotnik etc, etc... What did Lucy do to make the world better?
Or even better what changed in the ending of the show from the beginning?
- Diclonus still exist, hate humans and kill them.
- Humans still exist, hate Diclonus and kill them.
- Even the big boss from the humans is still alive at the end.
So what did change?????
If only Lucy had done SOMETHING to improve Diclonus/humans relationships...
Or an other twist, Lucy could have freed her sisters and took over the world, and after that done to humans what they did to her race.
At least Lucy would have had a clear goal or motivation and acted logical but no.
Try answering this question:
What is Lucy's goal?
- Try to help and save her sisters in captivity? NOPE! She tries to kill them and never gives a shit about them (REMEMBER WHEN SHE
DISMEMBERED NANA JUST FOR FUN IN THE CEMETERY!?!?!?! With this sadistic face while saying "Does it hurt?" AND NO I'M NEVER GETTING
OVER THIS SCENE! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE HERO AND SAVE YOUR RACE NOT TRY TO KILL IT!!! I WILL HAVE NO COMPASSION IF SOMETHING BAD
HAPPENS TO YOU!)
- Prove to the humans that they're wrong and that Diclonus are not blood-thirsty killer monsters? NOPE! She kills everyone on sight
and after that she wonders why she doesn't have any friend... alive. LOL
- Kill all humans and try to take over the world! NOPE! she stays at Kota's home half naked while speaking like a Pokemon "Nyu, Nyu".
So please tell me, what is her goal?
At one time, someone told that vectors had other purposes than killing and infecting humans... THEN FUCKING SHOW IT! Couldn't she use
them to, I don't know...:
- Perform some magic tricks(it would be really easy with invisible arms).
- Do some massage.
- Help in the kitchen.
- Play Tennis with 5 people.
- Save people's life from falling.
- Clean something really fast.
- Do multiple jobs faster.
- Play with the kids.
I don't know, you want to convince us that they can be nice then fucking show us that they can do something else then killing with
their vectors.
I can still continue, I find the manga ugly from a drawing point of view and the author tried to mix too much genres together.
"Elfen Lied does not classify easily in a unique genre, because the work contains elements of horror, comedy, drama, romance, action,
science fiction and suspense." That feels like a marketing plan!
And you know what? I have the same problem with Mirai Nikki as with Elfen Lied.
- Dumb as a brick effiminate and useless male protagonist.
- Twisted blood-thirsty sadistic girl protagonist that we can't sympathise with.
- Shitty ass nonsensical ending.
- The only good thing was the music.
Even the protagonists look alike:
Kota: images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__c…
Yukiteru: images4.fanpop.com/image/photo…
Yuno: images4.alphacoders.com/275/27…
Lucy: images2.alphacoders.com/150/15…
Bonus: img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20…
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I've read and heard so many good things about Elfen Lied (yeah, it's a classic, a must watch, blablabla,etc...) and when I saw it, I was like : "what? That's all?..."
Sorry if that shocks you but except the gory bloody fight scenes, the rest was boring as shit.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Eh. It was alright I suppose. Lotsa gore.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
You mean the boring shit didn't bother you?
- The useless incestious love triangle.
- The bland dumb as a brick male character who could honestly have been mute and it wouldn't have changed anything.
- The dumbass overly jealous cousin.
- The useless fan service (sorry but I absolutely HATE ecchi/harems).
- The over used out of nowhere nudity. (Honestly does that shock only me to see under aged kids naked?!?!
Thank you japanese perverts and your Lolicon!)
- The fact that the guy FORGETS the face of the girl WHO KILLED HIS SISTER AND FATHER IN FRONT OF HIM!!!
- The pointless amnesia for Lucy (I really hate that plot point, how can you forget your name, your memory, to dress up, to undress, to go to the toilet... and than all of a sudden regain your memory but than reforget all what you remembered ,etc)
- The shitty ass kid humor (Lucy pissed herself, it's funny HAHAHAHA!) or even better a teenage girl who wears diapers HAHAHAHAHAHA it's so funny; NO IT IS NOT!!!
- So many people told me Lucy has a complex personality... NOPE! It's just:
1) Slutty, horny and bare naked anime kitty girl. (Nyu)
2) Hero of a FPS video-games(Duke Nukem, Doom, Wolfenstein...) EXTERMINATE EVERYTHING ON SIGHT!!!(Lucy)
That's not complex at all!
So please explain to me what did people like in this series, I really want to know...
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I love how three dimensional this is. It looks like tearing out to get you!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I remember how hard I tried to achieve that effect, so hearing that it works makes me incredible happy!!!
Thank you so very much for your nice comment!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Just fine. Mariko is my favorite too, along with Lucy.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Ohh awesome!!!
I like Lucy too in the anime, but not in the manga (because of what she did to Mariko!) ... I did feel bad for her when she lost her friend in the OVA!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
True, she didn't even show remorse for killing Mariko or anyone with exception of Kouta's family.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Ух! Опасная троица. Мне нравится! Так и бегут мурашки по коже.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I am sorry, I had to use google translate to understand what you wrote.
But thank you very much for the kind comment!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
If Kaede/Nyuu/Lucy, Nana, and Mariko teamed up imagine the results.
👍: 0 ⏩: 3
It would be the END of all of us! 
(Sorry for the VERY late reply, I had problems viewing all my messages.)
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
It would be kind of cool to see how the world looks with only the Dicloni around, I'd imagine they would be vegatarians do to their love of animals.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
If it’s according to the anime everyone would have pink hair and red eyes! (The manga got more color variations!
Hm I think it would be like it is today, where some people are and others not. I think the amount of love for animals depends on the individual dicloni. It’s the whole world, so I imagine there being a lot of different "variations" of dicloni!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I'd imagine that after a few thousand years Diclonii with three horns and being able to get another ability along with vectors and the Diclonii would treat these "Triclonii" like how the humans treated the Diclonoo, the Triclonii whipe out the Diclonii and history repeats itself.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Wooow that sounds very interesting. 
I know it’s a theory but it’s very interesting, so I can’t help but ask!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Maybe since the Diclonii have an enlarged pineal gland the Triclonii could have either an even larger one or another smaller one located in the back of the brain, the third horn could possibly allow teleportation or a more advanced telepathy than what the Diclonii have to sense their own kind. I like to imgaine that when the four horned, five horned, six horned, ect. Are born their powers get greater and greater that the previous species until eventually they start summoning dragons or something.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Where did you hear about the Diclonii having an enlarged pineal gland?
Vectors + teleportation sounds awesome … but VERY deadly! !
Do you really think they will keep “evolving”? The creatures could surpass them if they are not carefull!
(But I would love to see Diclonii dragons! XD)
👍: 0 ⏩: 2
I found the vid!^_^ www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDroNx…
I believe Mayu could easily the purest character of Elfen Lied, I do not believe there is a single bit of evil within her, I would tie her with Nana.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Oh I was right hahaha! 
I agree with you! 
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
If you want to see some really good AMVs check out "Condemned Memoir Elfen Lied" which shows how different events molded the sides of Lucy and Nyu and "Tears of Fear" which is really well made.
It makes you wonder, when Mayu stumbles upon Lucy mutilating Nana Lucy doesn't really hurt her. She simply forces her into a tree when she could have have easily killed Mayu. Maybe she could sense the good in her? It didn't seem like Lucy to be torturing one of her own kind, she even mentions she never hurt a person before referring to the Diclonii, but to simply knock a human out of her way without lasting damage.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I think the manga mentions it, it's explained that when Kaede (Lucy's true name) gets shot in the beginning the gun shot damaged it giving her her split personalities.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Oh interesting! I must have forgotten it then. It’s been a long time since I read or watched Elfen Lied.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeah, I really love the manga. I really wish the second half would get an anime adaption.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I think it’s going to be really hard for them. The story in the anime and manga is different. I mean Mariko had clones and there is a lot of other details they changed in the anime (even the colors of the diclonii).
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeah... The easiest way would most likely be to just create the anime from scratch, kind of like what they didnwith Sailor Moon although that one was super old which was why it was remade.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
| Next =>