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Captain Picard was always meant to be an explorer, an intellectual, and not a military man. While the Enterprise-E had to fight her way through the Dominion war and fight the Borg and the madman Shinzon, the mighty starship was always a blend of exploration and defence capabilities.
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Scyphi [2018-11-04 21:55:48 +0000 UTC]
I always liked the E a bit more than the D. To be sure, the D was a nice ship, but she seemed so docile. More flying space station transporting guests in supreme comfort than a flagship of a peacekeeping fleet that's supposed to be ready and able to fly into war at a moment's notice should that ever happen.
Sure, Star Trek's all about promoting peace and unity over war and division, but as the Borg proved in Next-Gen, and the Dominion later in DS9, that didn't mean there weren't still major threats out there that could come and threaten all of that. It's important to remember that Starfleet may be pacifists by principle, but they're still a military, existing so to give such threats what for. With the D's design, though, it felt like double-duty feel that her predecessor ships bore was a bit lost, focusing too much on the peace and not giving enough consideration that she should still be war-capable too.
So I like the E more, because I thought it found a nice balance between the two, especially with how it was portrayed in, oddly, Insurrection. They kept the set fairly nicely lit in that film (more than they did in the film previous or following), and it helped give her a more gentle feel that makes me realize the E really isn't all that different in core function from the D...she's just a bit more practical about it.
I seem to be really prone to going off on long tangents when commenting on your pics lately...I should probably stop doing that...
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thefirstfleet In reply to Scyphi [2018-11-05 16:59:28 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I agree. TNG was a product of anti-Reaganism (I really need to write an article about that), a peaceful alternative to the real-life gung-ho militarism.
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Rendevez15 In reply to ??? [2018-11-04 21:35:23 +0000 UTC]
Gorgeous...and actually makes the battleship soveriegn feel like an explorer...Great job!
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Colourbrand [2018-11-04 20:58:49 +0000 UTC]
And that is why Picard is so revered.
After all, do you see people chanting loud for a return of Sisko, Janeway, or Archer?
Nah, just that tea-drinking 'softie'...
Well made here matey
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thefirstfleet In reply to Colourbrand [2018-11-05 17:01:30 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, I like Sisko, Janeway and Archer much more than Picard. Picard (and the wholew TNG crew in general) is my least favorite. But I accept his greatness nonetheless.
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Colourbrand In reply to thefirstfleet [2018-11-05 19:20:13 +0000 UTC]
Down to Mr Stewart methinks
Anyhoo - great work
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Scyphi In reply to Colourbrand [2018-11-04 21:44:42 +0000 UTC]
Actually, I do see the odd fan chanting for a return of Sisko, and occasionally Janeway, enough at least to take note of it.
Not to say I'm not game for more Picard myself, of course.
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RoseElegance In reply to Scyphi [2018-11-05 00:12:19 +0000 UTC]
I think those are somewhat due to the fact their stories just sort of...ended. We never learned if Sisko did eventually return (There was a return in some books, but the books aren't considered Canon), and we know Janeway got promoted to Admiral, but where is she stationed? Is it on Earth? Is it on a Starbase? Is the Voyager attached to her location? the end of DS9 and Voyager left many unanswered questions. Like did Bajor ever join the Federation, Does Jake now have a little brother, or a little sister? ( stuff answered in books, not in canon)
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Scyphi In reply to RoseElegance [2018-11-05 23:10:22 +0000 UTC]
In VOY's "Endgame," Future Janeway says Voyager became a museum after its return to Earth. Considering the reputation it certainly would have developed after successfully navigating its way out of the Delta Quadrant on it's own, I always figured this still transpired for the ship in the official timeline, as a sort of rewarding retirement and special recognition for a job well done.
Bajor is never formally portrayed to join the Federation onscreen, but before DS9 ended, it was stated it had formally begun the process to enter, so I figure that, assuming nothing disrupted that process, it eventually did.
But yes, the stories for both, especially Sisko, do just abruptly end...but then so had Picard's, when you really think about it.
Personally, I think the reason Picard remains the one most interested by fans to see a continuation is simply because he's better known by the public at large.
Really, though, I just want to see more official exploration of the Star Trek timeline post-Nemesis, personally, regardless of what characters it might focus on. As I see it, anything exploring after that point of time is going to drop details about all of this along the way.
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Timberwolf1969 In reply to ??? [2018-11-04 19:40:56 +0000 UTC]
An explorer at heart, but still a very good tactician, if the necessity arose.
And an excellent pilot as well.
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CaptainQuirk5 In reply to ??? [2018-11-04 19:12:12 +0000 UTC]
It would have been nice if they'd actually focused more on the exploring. With TOS I always felt they actually were exploring strange new worlds. With STNG I never got that feel at all. When Picard asks laconically in one of the movies (Insurrection, I think it was), "Does anyone remember when we were we explorers?" I searched my memories briefly and then loudly blurted out, "No!" - somewhat to the amusement of the movie audience.
Sure, that was a bit of an exaggeration... but imo not too much of one.
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RoseElegance In reply to CaptainQuirk5 [2018-11-04 21:05:37 +0000 UTC]
Well, The Enterprise-D didn't do as much exploring due to several factors, Being one of the (at the time) newest and most powerful ships, she didn't get to wander the edges of Federation space as often as smaller dedicated vessels, she was stuck as the "flagship", so she was limited to being in the Federation interior as a rapid responder. Her primary exploration was of phenomena in the interior of the federation borders, and occasionally systems that were in the collective Federation expanse, but not members.
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CaptainQuirk5 In reply to RoseElegance [2018-11-04 21:15:15 +0000 UTC]
Sounds about right, yes. Which explains why it was a dead boring show half the time; especially the first two seasons.
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thefirstfleet In reply to CaptainQuirk5 [2018-11-04 19:46:57 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, many TNG episodes actually focused on troubles on Federation worlds. Sure, those were strange new worlds to us, but in-universe, it was basically Starfleet sending overseers to the boonies.
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CaptainQuirk5 In reply to thefirstfleet [2018-11-04 19:59:23 +0000 UTC]
Quite so. At least the other Star Trek series - especially Voyager - was somewhat better on the exploration angle. Sometimes. And Enterprise was actually getting pretty good when they up and cancelled it.
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SpiderTrekfan616 In reply to ??? [2018-11-04 19:11:09 +0000 UTC]
This is probably a dumb question but did you know that the Galaxy Class Model was relabeled with the NCC-1701-E registry in the event that the head honchos would pull a "Star Trek IV" same class, different ship type of thing?
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bjmaxvin67 In reply to SpiderTrekfan616 [2018-11-05 16:50:30 +0000 UTC]
I also heard that before that they were considering the Enterprise 1701-E to be another Galaxy class . According to information from USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E) | Memory Alpha ; following Star Trek Generation, a six-foot filming model for the Galaxy-class USS Enterprise-D had been modified to have the registry number read "NCC-1701-E". Penny Juday, an archivist at Paramount Pictures, had no explanation for this change which is shown on the TNG Season 2, Disc 6 : "Inside Starfleet Archives". It turned out that the change was done at ILM by John Goodson prior to crating up the model after completion of Generations, presumably assuming that the new Enterprise might be a Galaxy-class ship as well and having the number changed over already would save whoever did the special effects the trouble of having to change it over themselves. Also while I love the Soveriegn class USS Enterprise E; I do agree that the way they killed her off was ridiculous and after seeing Rekkert's USS Challenger Bridge design it would of been nice to see an Galaxy- class refit for the movies something similar to STO's Explorationcruiser Venture .
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thefirstfleet In reply to SpiderTrekfan616 [2018-11-04 19:48:22 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I've seen it. TBH, killing off the 1701-D in the way they did it was beyond assinine. I'd have liked the E-D being damaged and refitted.
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SpiderTrekfan616 In reply to thefirstfleet [2018-11-04 19:53:46 +0000 UTC]
I agree wholeheartedly, I even think the Recent Bridge design Rekkert made would be a good redesign for it with a few changes.
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RoseElegance In reply to SpiderTrekfan616 [2018-11-04 21:08:33 +0000 UTC]
as a fangirl, the decision to have the Enterprise-E be a Sovereign made me happy. Because it did allow the Galaxy model to be used more in DS9, and a few appearances in Voyager. It actually let them SHOW the Actual USS Galaxy in several Dominion War battle fleets.
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SpiderTrekfan616 In reply to RoseElegance [2018-11-04 21:57:30 +0000 UTC]
Actually the only times that a physical model was used for the Galaxy Class in DS9 was the pilot episode "Emissary" as the Enterprise-D, the Second Season Finale "The Jem'Hadar" as the U.S.S. Odyssey and the Fourth Season premiere "The Way of the Warrior" as the U.S.S. Venture, After that every Galaxy Class seen On Screen was CGI Even then I think all of those appearances were the high detail four foot model built by Image-G whereas the Model I was referring to was the Low detail Six Foot Model used in TNG's Encounter at Farpoint, The Arsenal of Freedom, The Best of Both Worlds Part II and Star Trek Generations, and it was used for it's saucer separation capability, something the four foot model wasn't designed to do.
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RoseElegance In reply to SpiderTrekfan616 [2018-11-05 00:07:41 +0000 UTC]
yes, but it eliminates the "Oh, is that The Enterprise?" effect... wherein, you see the a Galaxy class, and assume "Hey, is that the Enterprise?" No, because the Enterprise isn't a Galaxy anymore.
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thefirstfleet In reply to BillyNikoll [2018-11-04 19:01:10 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much!
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Omega719 [2018-11-04 18:32:20 +0000 UTC]
I hope we get to see her again in the announced Picard series.
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thefirstfleet In reply to Omega719 [2018-11-04 19:01:31 +0000 UTC]
I hope so. Maybe refitted after a long service.
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