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thethreefoldme In reply to amyshmofo [2004-08-06 02:25:30 +0000 UTC]

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Thank you! I'm glad you liked. I also see you added a lot to your favorites, which just makes me beam. Again, thank you so much!

And any time!

<3, Steph

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thethreefoldme In reply to Judin [2004-08-02 20:37:17 +0000 UTC]

Awwwwwwwwwww! Thank you! I'm so glad you agree. Because you know what's going on in their heads if you understand the relationship. XD

<3!

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thethreefoldme In reply to xxdork [2004-08-02 20:39:21 +0000 UTC]

Heeeee! This Ron was a bit different from all my others, but I like him just the same. The pointy nose and pointy hair seems to fit his lanky, awkward body type, I think.

Glad you make you squee!

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thethreefoldme In reply to bfb5 [2004-08-02 20:44:03 +0000 UTC]

SWEET! Chalk another one up for Ron and Hermione! Hee.

<3

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-02 01:14:08 +0000 UTC]

But how can Harry date Hermione when Harry's destined for Ginny? LOL Just you wait, you Hr/H shipper you, just you waaaiiiit!

Heehe, thanks!

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-02 01:23:11 +0000 UTC]

Nah! Ron is destined for Luna and Hermione is destined for Harry...
as for Ginny, I can't decide... I like Ginny/Dean (which is REALLY CANON, btw) but I am not against Ginny/Neville either.
Why can't H/G shippers accept Ginny has moved on? lol!
Just wait, and you'll see how Harry and Hermione become the canon OTP.

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-02 20:42:59 +0000 UTC]

Why can't H/Hr shippers accept that JK Rowling's already basically told us that Hermione and Ron are meant to be? She said it's obvious, and Ron/Hermione are perfect opposites, down to their zodiac signs! Opposites attract, eh? Eh?

I don't support Harry/Ginny as much, I just think it's likely. Luna I think is likely for Harry, also, but I honestly prefer to see him with no one.

And HELLO, JK said if she writes anything after this series is over, it'll revolve around Ron and Hermione. XD

Hehe... I dueleth you to ship wars! XD <333

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-03 00:16:48 +0000 UTC]

I can't accept it because JKR never said it!
JKR never said Ron and Hermione are meant to be or nothing to that effect. She said "she couldn't believe we haven't work it out (who Hermione loves)" and that "we had enough clues" to know if H/Hr would end together, but she never said Hermione ship was "obvious". In fact if it was obvious, we wouldn't need to find any clues or "work it out". Regarding "opposites attract", I don't think that's the case with Ron and Hermione. They have "opposite views" but very similar personlities (stubborn) and that's why they clash. On the other hand Harry and Hermione are complimentary in personalities, meanwhile their views are similar, what makes them more compatible. Regarding zodiac signs, Piscis and Virgo many horoscopes tell they are not compatible.
Regarding Luna/Harry, I doubt it because Luna seems far more interested in "Ronald", meanwhile Harry doesn't care.
Regarding writing more books after book 7, JKR never said she would write about Ron and Hermione, in fact she said she wouldn't write a novel at all, but a Hogwarts encyclopedia. [link]
But of course, you're entitled to have your opinion, which is as valuable as mine, or anyone else's.
Peace <3
See you,

Estrella
PS: BTW, your Hermione looks a little like Emma Watson.

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-05 00:45:55 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, here's the url:

[link]

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-05 00:44:04 +0000 UTC]

PS: BTW, JK Rowling HAS said it.

Rowling: (slight frown) “Hermione and Harry! Do you think so?”
Rowling: “Ron and Hermione, I would say, have more potential (or did she say “tension”) there”

[link]

They weren't sure if she said potential or tension, which I'm wagering she said tension, since that's very apparent. But either way, the point was made, I think.

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-05 01:38:48 +0000 UTC]

I saw this interview video clip and she said "tension". But never said what caused that tension (mutual feelings, unreciprocated feelings from Ron or just confusion). Also Ron and Hermione didn't kiss in OotP, and JKR never answered the question about Harry and Hermione, just avoided it. If JKR really had meant it that way, why didn't she ever answer negatively as she did with D/Hr?
About JKR's quotes there's and interesting essay here [link] if you are interested.
BTW, where did you get the idea about JKR writing a book about Ron and Hermione? I never heard nothing like that, and the quote I provided from JKR's site about the Encyclopedia contradicts it, so I am curious.

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-05 03:21:14 +0000 UTC]

It wasn't an idea. It was an actual article I read.

I'd like to think you're just in denial. That quote was pretty straight forward about it all. Harry's had perfect opportunities to be jealous of Ron spending more time with Hermione, if he was interested. They spent all summer together at Grimmauld Place, after all. But he complained of both of them, as friends.

And when he did spend time alone with Hermione, he thought about how boring it was (GoF when he was fighting with Ron).

Both Hermione and Ron have shown signs of being jealous, however. Ron is jealous of Viktor Krum and Hermione was jealous when Ron oogled Fleur. Not to mention she got mad at *Ron* for the whole Yule Ball ordeal, not Harry. If she didn't honestly care, why would she have gotten so offended?

I could care less when my guy friends talk about taking hot girls to dances. Hermione's a bit more mature than that, isn't she? Unless it really upset her.

I mean, even down to the cat and mouse reference. How awkward things are for them (there's that tension).

And we see things from Harry's point of view -- if he has so much as a second thought about Hermione, don't you think we'd know?

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-05 14:09:01 +0000 UTC]

Well, certainly I am not "in denial" at all, since the quote wasn't as "straight" as you pretend it to be (and she didn't want to answer about H/Hr in later interviews what contradicts the idea of the "straight negative" condition of her answer). :rolleyes:
Harry doesn't like Hermione yet (in a conscient way), because he had a crush in Cho, but still he thinks more and more in Hermione as books advance to the point of hearing her voice in his head and dreaming about Cho turning into Hermione.
Regarding Hermione, I believe it is clear she likes Harry and not Ron. The "Fleur thing" was about Hermione not liking Fleur because of her haughty attitude regarding Hogwarts (way before we see her face, she had a scarf covering it and she laughs at Dumbledore's speech) and Ron being hypocrital, accusing Hermione of "fraternizing with the enemy" because of Viktor being a rival to Harry at the Tournament and then "fraternizing" with Fleur who was a rival of Harry as well. Notice Hermione wasn't jealous of Luna at al despite her obvious flirting with "Ronald". And she didn't blush or react strongly at all when Ron gave her perfume (just called it "unusual"), nor she blushed when she kissed Ron good luck. Just to mention a few contradictions to the idea of Hermione liking Ron.
Also, isn't it curious how everybody suspect of H/Hr in the books? Viktor, Cho and even Ron (How do you know?[that Harry is not a bad kisser]) suspect of this, but no one suspects of R/Hr...
And, I am not even sure Ron was jealous of Hermione. He reacted in a similar way to Ginny/Michael and Ginny/Dean at OotP, and I am sure Ron doesn't like his sister that way.
Anyway, if you are interested in more extended arguments, I recommend you to read some of the essays at Symbolic Flight [link]
Finally, where did you read that article about JKR writing abook about Ron and Hermione? I never heard that before, and it is kind of contradictory with the Encyclopedia issue at JKR's site, so I am even more intrigued now...
Respectfully hoping for the peace between ships,

Estrella

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-05 19:01:54 +0000 UTC]

I gave you an article. You're giving me people's opinions. Also, you say Ron doesn't make Hermione blush? Can you even give me as many hints as I did regarding Ron/Hermione? Say you did knock down every point I just had, which is still only your opinion and there's quite a base who agrees (as well as disagrees, so that's feeble anyway), where are any hints at all that Hermione likes Harry? Or that Harry could possibly ever like Hermione?

I don't recall any I could even consider.

Go ahead, try and match as many as I pointed out or more. There's plenty more Hr/Ron potential I could rattle off.

Plus, JK Rowling constantly contradics herself, if you want to go that way. She also says that she often lets things "slip."

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-05 19:35:41 +0000 UTC]

*Sights* Cool down!
Let's keep it friendly, shall we?
You linked to an interview I already knew and it didn't convice me because it was ambiguous.
I linked to people's essays based in canon, both interviews and quotes from the books. Don't see why your opinion/interpretation of interviews and/or books is any more valuable than anyone else's.
OK. If you want a concrete collection of H/Hr evidence, read for example Penny's essay at the HP Lexicon:
[link]
(it gives the page numbers of both GoF and OotP)
Also, I am still curious to know where did you read that stuff about a Ron and Hermione book. ( See my note: None of your shipmates seem to have heard of it either)
Finally if JKR always contradicts herself, why do you trust the quotes?

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-05 20:03:22 +0000 UTC]

Because she never lies about the information, that's why. It slips. And that's what I meant. She didn't lie about the death in PoA like everyone thought.

And I don't know what you mean by ship mates, because I know plenty of people who have seen the interview, including the person who linked me to it, and all the people I linked to it when I found it.

But I'm sure you've talked to every last person who supports the ship, right?

You started this debate on the wrong foot far too long ago. I was joking at first, but you seem to take this fictional relationship far too seriously. I take my opinion seriously, and I also enjoy debating, but if you're going to come to my gallery and continue to shoot it down and disrespect my opinions on my turf, don't expect me to treat you differently.

I'd say drop it, because my problem isn't with you or your beliefs, but the way you're approaching this whole matter. This is honestly ridiculous.

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-05 20:24:03 +0000 UTC]

Sorry?
I didn't try to offend your gallery at all. As I said before , you're entitled to have your opininion, and I respect that. Only take into account not everybody has to agree with it. In my original commment I just said I didn't support R/Hr but the pic was nice anyway. Period. It was you who started the debate over. I am not interested in debating in the gallery, really, that's why I linked stuff, so I had not to write so much about things which are not concerned at all with art.
Anyway, I don't want to upset you.
So I offer my apologies if I offended you because I never intended it.
Finally could you please link the interview about a Ron and Hermione book?
Thanks in advance,

Estrella

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-05 21:02:22 +0000 UTC]

I have plenty of friends online & off that support Harry/Hermione. I'm not going to beat up anyone over a freaking story book relationship, and I have a great respect for opinion.

Now, I'm dropping this. I suggest that you do, too.

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-05 21:11:01 +0000 UTC]

OK!
I couldn't be happier to drop the whole issue!
Me too, I have plenty of friends in the net who support R/Hr and/or H/G (I even draw an H/G pic for one of them!), so I am happy I could keep admiring your art without this issues between us.
The only thing I want to beg you is please to give me the link to that article you read about a Ron and Hermione book if you have it, because I want to read every interview I could and I am dying of curiosity here!
Thanks in advance,

Estrella
*who is still loving your art*

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thethreefoldme In reply to esicardi [2004-08-05 00:16:40 +0000 UTC]

I highly doubt either of us have read every last interview/heard every comment JK Rowling has ever even uttered. But, this is beating a dead horse. We can just agree to disagree.

PS -- It ended up that way. I suppose with only so many visual images, when you free hand something, your mind subconciously relates it to how you last remember it. Considering she has canon hair, I don't so much mind the face.

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esicardi In reply to thethreefoldme [2004-08-05 01:42:57 +0000 UTC]

I have read a big amount of interviews but I am happy to agree to disagree with you. After all only JKR can decide which ship is right and we're going to find out at some point in book 6 or 7. Peace.

Regarding Hermione's face, I didn't mean that as a flaw, she looks pretty nice with her face similar to Emma's face, but with the right hair ( lol!). I really like your drawings.

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