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Start recently watching some shows on the internet I haven't seen so far. like Chowder, teen titans, the new tmnt show (this is actual in german tv right now, but at this time I'm mostly at the pc) and even started to watch Ben 10 Alien force again, in case something in omniverse re appears I may should know... and still there is so much that bothers me in this show. The biggest problem: Gwen being an anodyte... I know I ranted a lot about that allready, but it's such a terrible decission. Why macking her magic to an alien power, magic is way more cooler, special if you look at the old show:Ben = Alien
Gwen = Magic
Max = Technologie
There is so much stuff possible, so why is magic all of sudden the only impossible thing?
At the moment I'm thinking about a way how to give her magic back but keping with the continuity, for example something like that most of her powers as a kid, where actual magic, but her stupid Grandmother just wont admit it, so she would not using more anything else than this lame anodyte powers. (SHE WAS ABLE TO SUMMON A SNAKE AS A KID, DAMMIT!!)
Tell me how you think about, or if you may have a suggestion.
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Comments: 52
Digi-Angel [2013-04-18 19:41:56 +0000 UTC]
I never cared much about Gwens anodyte thing but if it helps I like the idea that anodyte's are kinda off magical aliens,like their use magic......I have not watched Alien force all that much so I could be missing a few big details
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Solomen [2013-03-23 23:32:14 +0000 UTC]
Magic is just a misunderstanding of strange physics
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tierrayaoi [2013-03-23 20:30:05 +0000 UTC]
I totally believe in magic I don't care what ppl say its real. And I'm working on proving it. Lol Magic rocks
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Fireminion [2013-03-20 19:37:28 +0000 UTC]
One of the many reasons I hate Alien Force so much, but they didn't take out all the magic. They kept charmcaster around as a magic user (sort of).
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DCHorror [2013-03-14 11:04:57 +0000 UTC]
That actually kinda fused it later. Magic does exist and she can still use it exactly as she used to(even uses spellbooks at several times), but being an anodyte meant she could do it at a higher level and just kinda tapped naturally into the mana in the universe, which did kinda help explain why she could best seasoned practitioners with no experience.
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PurfectPrincessGirl [2013-03-13 23:48:27 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, to be honest I prefer Gwen to have Magical Powers then just the generic Alien Powers. It makes her a bit more, unique, in a way ^^
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MrCapadochio [2013-03-12 18:33:19 +0000 UTC]
I'm giving some of my work (original comic) of my theory of magic (not everything, even researched the pocket of Higgins):
Magic is energy. energy that can transmute any physical element. if you see with what tradue ben10 mana, no creatures / scholars / natural talent / etc that can manipulate energy to bend the fabric of reality. Jamadagni Renuka said: you can fold, cut and sew the fabric mutillar of reality or easier. matter can create, dissolve, merge, cut, paste, take from point A to B etc ... (notice I did not say destroy or disappear, nothing espaca to Newton's laws) became clearer?
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crimson-kid [2013-03-11 19:09:37 +0000 UTC]
if you actually study magic you would realize that, the Anodytes are nothing but magic, magic by scientific definition is the act of using mental powers and supernatural energy to alter the physical realm, and there is a reason why she was able to use more powerful magic earlier on, magic takes an open mind and a willingness to except the unexplained, as she gets older unless she was able to keep up with here training and keep her open mindedness her powers would weaken, as shown in the show, and the fact that she was told were her powers come from didn't help any either, it probably made here more closed minded about here abilities and lessened her ability to use "real magic" even more, I say it's a miracle she can use "real magic" at all any more.
I haven't watched the show recently so I can't give a more in-depth analysis ... sorry
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Crushermach3 In reply to crimson-kid [2013-03-12 06:12:10 +0000 UTC]
I agree with what this guy said.^
(Even if his statement is rife with spelling errors.)
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crimson-kid In reply to Crushermach3 [2013-03-14 19:02:20 +0000 UTC]
I know my spelling sucks thanks for sticking with it.
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BurningResurrection [2013-03-11 17:47:04 +0000 UTC]
yeah, they aren't very consistent about these things
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Sekele [2013-03-11 11:29:02 +0000 UTC]
I actually think that at some point they said that magic and anodyte powers are actually the same thing, but the anodyte's themselves don't call it magic, since it is completely normal to them
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steelscyther2k [2013-03-11 10:01:27 +0000 UTC]
I belive this is correct and I qoute, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arther C Clarke. In short, magic and tech are two sides of the same coin. And if it helps what she does sounds alot like Materia use from Final Fantasy VII or drawing on Mist from the recent Final Fantasy Series.
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SwordSparks [2013-03-11 05:50:25 +0000 UTC]
Being an Anodyte is like a slap to Houdini's face.
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Animefan-279 [2013-03-11 03:46:29 +0000 UTC]
There really is no way to take away the Anodite without removing the AF and UA continuity.
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Toonwatcher [2013-03-11 02:04:01 +0000 UTC]
I think they backpedaled at some point about the whole "magic not being real" thing, but it was still a stupid decision.
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toongrowner In reply to Toonwatcher [2013-03-11 02:06:32 +0000 UTC]
totally, just think about what she may could have done instead of allways this silly pink forces...
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Da-Fuze [2013-03-11 01:59:41 +0000 UTC]
not saying it was aliens.... but aliens!
yeah Gwen auto failed when she hit her teen years. whhyyyy couldn't she be better. GAWD daymn it
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Da-Fuze In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 02:10:36 +0000 UTC]
I hate her older designs too. we saw her in the first future episode looking like A OLDER GWEN, all these new designs just straight up Fukked up!
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toongrowner In reply to Da-Fuze [2013-03-11 02:12:40 +0000 UTC]
Mostly agree. Well I actual can get used to the actual omniverse version, but all other besides original and the first future gwen are horrible. Gosh, in one UA omniverse they even showed young gwen with this fish lips, it looked horrible.
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Da-Fuze In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 02:14:07 +0000 UTC]
*shivers* gwen is suppose to be this bad ass "tomboyish" girl. hell even her relationship with Keven is nice cause she dosn't swoon or act girly aroudn him. she orders him around ect ect
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toongrowner In reply to Da-Fuze [2013-03-11 02:18:58 +0000 UTC]
Gwen? Tomboyish? Maybe a bit in the original, in AF she was more like a "annyoing little miss blant perfect allways right". Nothing against Kevn x Gwen, but she was not very likeable in Af and UA
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Maetch [2013-03-11 01:59:39 +0000 UTC]
Because in the universe of Ben 10, EVERYTHING has to be related to aliens. There's no two ways about it.
Also, the show later re-ret-conned this by making magic a real thing that Gwen's Anodyte heritage lets her use (though she still favors the Force... I mean, Mana powers for general combat).
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CykoHedgehog In reply to Maetch [2013-03-11 02:32:01 +0000 UTC]
Paradox could be an alien; he's basically their version of Doctor Who, who is a humanoid looking alien.
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Maetch In reply to CykoHedgehog [2013-03-12 04:57:12 +0000 UTC]
I think it was proven that Paradox was human before he got caught up in that time-warp accident.
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toongrowner In reply to Maetch [2013-03-11 02:04:44 +0000 UTC]
Whats with Paradox? He is no alien? Or zomboso? It was never mentioned (so far I know) that he is an alien. I know its a alien themed show, but making all alien is just stupid and kinda lazy.
Like she needs to be an alien to use magic... Gwen was kinda a connection to the fans, she showed that there are other ways to cool powers than getting accidently a cool watch. But no, now you have to need the luck to be related to aliens... thats disapointing. And the force is lame...
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Chaos-force [2013-03-11 01:49:55 +0000 UTC]
Its a very interesting point indeed,I thought it was rather bull that they made that change when it made pretty good points that it was magic in the old series and it made a heck lot more sense
I guess maybe you could say the alien species is based around magic? I dunno
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toongrowner In reply to Chaos-force [2013-03-11 01:53:47 +0000 UTC]
Thanx for agree. Well what can this aliens do? Glowing, flying and pink energy fields. I'm sure with regualr magic, gwen could do soooo much more. I want it back being magic, and not just a regular alien power, otherwiese it's just something that even Ben could do, and so it's not special anymore.
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Chaos-force In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 02:04:23 +0000 UTC]
Well,I dunno,Ima just give it the same reason I use for Kevin being a good guy,"Alternate reality"
I dunno exactly but some episodes I barely saw in the newer series kinda support this multiverse effect I guess but its kinda hard to tell
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toongrowner In reply to Chaos-force [2013-03-11 02:09:57 +0000 UTC]
Well yeah, is no doubt that AF is a alternate reality, there is so much wrong, it just can't be a sequel to the original.
(but admit, I actual can see Kevin being a good guy)
Actual I think even omniverse is an alternate version.
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Chaos-force In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 02:14:06 +0000 UTC]
I agree with that completely.
As Nice as it is with Kevin being good,It kinda breaks the reality that was made in the episode "Ken 10" where he was a huge evil villain who was still in the void in the future.
But ya,I guess theres not too much harm in making multiple universes for variety but still,kinda confusing.
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toongrowner In reply to Chaos-force [2013-03-11 02:17:03 +0000 UTC]
Well to be fair, we don't know what happend in the time between, it may would explain how he got a son in the first place...
Yeah, but why they give us a universe which such a stupid thing?
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Chaos-force In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 02:19:11 +0000 UTC]
well that is true I guess,but I always preferred the Evil mutated Kevin >w<
Well,I dunno,its hard to tell such things
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toongrowner In reply to Chaos-force [2013-03-11 02:24:43 +0000 UTC]
Well youre not the only one. ^^
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IronBloodAika [2013-03-11 01:49:27 +0000 UTC]
It sucked. Her grandma sucked. It all sucked. DX
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toongrowner In reply to IronBloodAika [2013-03-11 01:51:56 +0000 UTC]
Her Grandma was such a bitch, I wasn't even able to watch the whole episode, it was just so terrible. XC
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IronBloodAika In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 01:54:12 +0000 UTC]
If I was Viglax, the Anodite homeworld would be the first one I obliterate. NO SURVIVORS!
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toongrowner In reply to IronBloodAika [2013-03-11 01:55:35 +0000 UTC]
agree... heck, may even give this frog-people the chance and let them win.
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IronBloodAika In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 01:59:33 +0000 UTC]
They're cooler than them. Also I find the older Attea to be really cute.
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toongrowner In reply to IronBloodAika [2013-03-11 02:08:28 +0000 UTC]
At least she looks more like a frog than the alien force version, in alien force she looked more human, I was not even able to concetrate on the episode, cause I allways where thinking, "is she really the daughter of this frog guy? She looks like fanservice hit her too much".
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IronBloodAika In reply to toongrowner [2013-03-11 02:13:19 +0000 UTC]
It might be her dad is just really fat.
I like it. She's hot. XD
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toongrowner In reply to IronBloodAika [2013-03-11 02:15:48 +0000 UTC]
But what about the other frog guys? In AF she looked nothing like them, like she was a totally different species,s he even had a human nose, in omniverse thought she looks better and more like the other frogs.
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