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Tall, horned figures. Why do they fascinate so?Related content
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super nice effect from the almost dried up marker?! haha should keep those around just for that
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Yeah, it was one of those refillable brush things, but instead of pure water I fill them with ink or wash
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Oh!! that's even more handier..?! Like keeping one around thats constantly almost empty.. ayh...
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Could be ancient deities as well. Unless you define those as demons.
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demons, reptilians, "gods", they have many names but the horned ones are the of the Principalities and Host of darkness.
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Why would it be so? I mean, horns are a herbivorous feature, so while they have a majestic look to them they're really not good to much else than self defense or quarrels over mating rights. Not really a sinister and offensive trait, in my opinion. Unless grazing is the primeval evil, and we just haven't realized it yet. Cows might be plotting to take over even as I write.
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funny thing is cows are very much worshipped today. go do a lot of homework on horned gods and garuntee you'll come to the conclusion they're a bad spirit. there's a reason for all those things dear Treebone.
the best part is the devil always tries to convince he ain't there.
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Hmm, cows were worshipped as lifegivers and symbols of wealth and giving for a long time before anyone came along with belief in a new god. It is kind of arrogant to claim that your religion is the one and only right one out there, especially as it builds on older religions that were there before. Many biblicalΒ "demons" predate Christianity and Judaism and were included or, if you may, evolved into biblical characters.
The devil, or satan (which might be seen as different entities altogether) were actually referred to as the dragon (the serpent) in the bible. Only horned reference I can come up with is the scapegoat. Then again, aren't christians a flock of lambs? Rams are horned.
In the Old Testament there are parts that state or imply that satan has no power except whispering ill thoughts and tricking people into doing his bidding. In some instances, for example Job, it is God himself that gives satan leave to test Job, showing that satan cannot do things like that unless God grants him the power and lets him do it. In Job satan is referring to an accuser, or prosecutor, which might relate to a rebellious, fallen angel of some sort.
An interesting thought that certain religious authors or researchers have drawn a correlation between God and the Devil, stating that they might in fact be the same entity, as they work in remarkably similar ways.
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and that's the deception. i can just tell by how defensive you get over getting the truth.
so you obvioulsy have no idea what reptilians are and how they have influenced culture since the beginning. all the religions somehow have correleated these beings and have deemed them as evil.
the Devil masks himself as an Angel of Light. Lucifer was the light bearer after all.
and by reffering to Job you haven't quite read the whole book because God gives satan to Kill, steal and destroy. even power over the weather if God should so let him.
mankind would rather have a relationship with a piece of wood or stone than the actual Living Unseen God who gave you and i both life.
and in our demension, since we are in the 3rd and science has confirmed there are mulitple demension, we have to have a balance of positive and negative in order to keep our plane of exsistance alive.
that is not so for heaven or hell.
there is a reason people worshipped the stars and the planets, they had a lot more access to their Penial Gland and were able to see into the spirit world and see the Watchers who ascended and descended from space. cultures all over the world have claimed that demons have made halfbreeds with people.
with all the distractions of the world now, we are very desesintised to that world and that order of nature. hence why the world is in the condition it is now.
just like our lives, the world has a life too and she will die just like us. God calls satan the King of Air. he gave satan dominion over this planet.
and if you study demonology or angelology you'll find there are dominions and principalites. there are kings on other planets, hence why people worshipped them.
and satan is not an actual name for the devil, it means "adversary". So again, misinformed on what was actually going on in Job.
i've studied many many mystery religions, mine being one of them, and all correlate in the sense of what and who demons are. Even in witchcraft if you go through the Keys of Solomon, another biblical figure who got suckedinto the occult.
the difference between Christianity and alllll of the other religions is that other religions and spiritualities require works because works deem you a good person even though your heart and your mind are purely evil where as christianity is all about Grace.
one thing no other religion cares to go on. mankind is driven by a working attitude so as along as it appears that you're a good person, they think they're going to heaven even though evil courses through them all day long.
have you not noticed how our culture and television has changed drastically to battles between demons and creatures of the such? it glorifies all of that and makes people even more blind to whats actually going on because it makes all this crazy stuff sound like a fairy tale.
fucked up thing is that is isn't. people are naturally attracted to the dark, it doesn't expose their innerselves.
it was never my intention to argue with you, just inform.
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I did state that the devil and satan might be seen as different entities, and clearly you are agreeing with that, so that's all nice and good. I know that, at least in the Old Testament Satan is referring to an accuser, or prosecutor. Adversary, if you like.
Do you consider Lucifer to be the devil? If I recall correctly, and I admit to not ever have read all of the Bible, Lucifer has been associated with both the serpent and satan, and that the story is based on a myth from the old, canaan religion?
I'm also not really here to discuss the Bible, because that avenue is endless, with all the different parts people choose to follow, we'd have to choose to include or leace out the apocrypha, and there might be many parts out there that
So, all of a sudden you start this long ramble about how you see the world that really hasn't got much to do with our original discussion? As I recall we were talking about horns as a symbol of evil.
I'm not really interested in your world view as I don't even know you as a person, and I'm quite happy with the way I view the world and explain things for myself right now. The thing I am interested in is how you justify your view of the horns, I assumed it was due to classical Christian iconography, and was trying to debunk that, as there is not much evidence (again, that I've read or heard about, don't know every passage by heart) about the horns, specifically.
If you are out to just inform you are going about it the wrong way. Right now you are preaching, as you are stating all the stuff you have to say as the one and only truth, which is the case for you, but probably not for the rest of them. If you have found a way to explain the world that suits you, good for you. But don't assume that everyone else should see the same. It's always about the rest not seeing the light, neglecting the light, denying the light. It's always about choosing the Lord and following him. Well, it so happens that most who preach about these things with most fire are those who have had visions, epiphanies or the like (especially if they have converted), so isn't it quite much to assume that everyone who hasn't had the privilege to experience that will blindly follow?
If your way of informing is saying: "This is the truth, just so you know." You are looking for an argument, because you feel you have the right to march in and step on what everyone else might be believing.
And your recent ramble, I'm not really getting what you want to tell me with it? What is this evil people have in their hearts, their evil mind? (except denying or not following your particular view of the world) What is good? Having a good mind?(except accepting and following your view of the world) You speak in such vague ways.
And about TV, I'd rather say it's descended into reality show and talent hell. People are violent by nature, and with recent technology it's possible to create all kinds of cool monsters for film, TV or games. I don't know if the culture has changed very much on that point, really. There's always been stories about monsters, demons and fighting them. I mean, isn't the sort of one and oldest story about good fighting evil?
Have you btw studied Asatro, the old Norse religion (NOT the strange counterpart that certain Americans are worshipping). Just wondering who the "demons" in that religion are, that's all.
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annnd to my defense as to why I blantly said they were demons, is because you asked why the horned ones are so fascinatin thus starting this arguement. I just simply answered a question and you started accusin. Like the accusser/adversary.
Sorry, I figured I'd better make that point. I simply said 3 words and look how big of an arguement was created. I could honestly tell you were heated.
It's because you got challenged unexpectadly, that's the way she goes. It happens to me all the time.
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Did you forget the part where IΒ presented another opinion and then you made your claim about horned ones being bad guys, presenting it as the truth?
Honestly, I think you are entitled to your opinion, but as I think we both realize, mine does not match yours, making me question your claim.
Your challenging me was unexpected, but really refreshing.
I was not looking for an argument in the negative sense, merely a debate, since I really love doing that every now and then. I like heated arguments, at least before they start going around in circles, I enjoy challenging opinions, getting my own thoughts and opinions challenged (especially in written form, as it gives me time to think about my responses) and so on. So, it was fun that you participated and countered my posts like that. I appreciate it.
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And to answer your other reply:
This all depends on how we define the word original, really. But in a really wide sense, yes I agree it's nigh impossible to come up with anything truly original, at least in ways a story is built, the dramatical flow and so on. But, even if you're still building a story on a millennia old core, take a myth and add a personal twist or redesign an old monster you're helping the retelling of an immense heritage, keeping it alive. And every once in a while, obviously much more seldomly nowadays (everything has been done before, as they say) someone might, accidentally or otherwise, create something rather groundbreaking, it might be something subtle and/or ill understood in its time, but later generations might recognize it as a turning point. Even the oldest of stories have a point (or several different points) of creation. Usually they start of very different from what they morph into given time and countless retellings. Every storyteller adds something and leave something out.
Hmm, my box feels awfully spacious. All the possibilities of how the world and universe, and especially the unseen works. So many interesting mythologies, explanations. Is there a right or wrong way of seeing it? Does it really matter? If the demons are in control now, how long have they been, and does all that really matter? Is there such a thing as control? What is wisdom? Or, could it be that it is you who truly are in a box, because you place other people in them.
There are many questions I expect to maybe never being able to answer. In many of them the answer will probably change many times during the course of our life. As I stated before (if I recall correctly), I'm pretty content right now with not having all the answers.
I'm happy for you if you feel that you have found the right explanations to the life, universe and everything. But can you be happy if you're bitter about or look down on others not seeing it as you do, neglecting the Truth, doing "evil" things. Is it fulfilling to be able to have complete, unfaltering faith? I tend to see it as a rather interesting trait, be the faith religious or atheistic. That stalwart certainity that the thing you believe in is the truth. And, as long as they aren't hurting other people in the name of this certainty, if they are able to not feel superior and accept other opinions, I see no problem in it.
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any "gods" count as demons. Now you can certainly try to justify or put it in your little box like you are, but it is much bigger than you think. and they control the world's views and opinions now matter how much we try to explain things and give justification to such behaviors.
I have seen them. Many times. I used to think like you did until I got woke up.
But anywho TreeBone, I love your art. I would watch it or fav it if I didn't. But just like these "monsters" you speak of, are thousands of years old. We are replaying the same stories over and over and over again. Humans are really ignorant if they actually think they've come up with something original.
We are always wanting to explain things and make things as complicated as possible but if you actually read the Word and get the message of Grace, it's all about choice. It's extremely simple.
God tends to send the stupid things of the world to shame the people who think they are wise in this life.
(i bet you'll remember that last sentence for a really long time. it'll pop up when you least expect.)
love,
jeremy
It's already been done. I hope i see you at the end of the red road Treebone.
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one of the mysteries of life.
this is really great~
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Great design and just the right amount of color
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Thanks! My refillable ink brush-pen was running out. The drybrushed effect that ensued was pretty cool, until it became too dry for even that.
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Glad to hear that! 
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