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Click Download and unzip the file to viewBy request.
If you like it and want others to see it, please favourite it so it gets shared around. That is the point of it
Related items are news.deviantart.com/article/35… or treijim.deviantart.com/journal… And I've now got the entire thing pasted below so you only have to download it if you want a properly formatted version.
How to Comment
By request, I’ve created a tutorial on how to comment. This won’t guarantee you give fantastic comments if you do this, but people asked for it, so here it is! Below are a few important aspects to take into consideration before commenting. After you read those, follow the following steps and write your responses to the questions in the comment field of your chosen artwork. It’s broken down quite a lot so you should always find things to comment on.
Consider This
Absorb
Are you open to absorb the image when you first look at it? Or is your mind in a state of critical analysis? Be open to take in the image before you look at it critically. Give the image a decent chance before commenting.
Intent
Are you going to point out something the artist did on purpose? Do you even know what the artist was trying to do? Is stylisation more important than realistic representation? Ask yourself these things before commenting. You may be insulting the artist by not taking into consideration what they were trying to do.
Technicality
Sometimes, the person you are commenting on may be oblivious to the terms you are using, and your words may indeed be wasted if they are too technical. Speak clear English, and explain anything that may be foreign to a less experienced artist. Just because you know technical terms, doesn’t make you a better artist.
Opinion
These days, being opinionated is seen as a bad thing. I don’t see why. What value does a fact have if it wasn’t our opinion that makes them valuable? Be careful with your words and remember that they are the artist and they didn’t draw the image for you (most likely). Your suggestions are no more than suggestions, but they can still be valuable and greatly appreciated.
First Impression
As nice as it is to hear first impressions sometimes, it may not be the best idea to actually leave a comment on your first time looking at it. Take some time (minutes to days) to go over the work and think about what you will say. You can tell the artist your first impression later.
The best approach may be to choose a couple of titles from each heading, unless the artist likes/wants long comments…
General (and abstract)
Appeal
Do you like it in general? Is it well done? Why?
Overall feel
What is the overall feel of the image? Why? Is there a way to increase the impact?
Objectivity
Do you like what it’s of? Do you like how it is being depicted? Why?
Subjectivity
Do you like what it’s about? Why?
Rhythm
Are there patterns present? Do you like them? Do they add to the feel of the image successfully? How?
Movement
How did your eyes move over the image? How do they travel over it after you’ve taken it in? Is the movement too divided? Does it match the image’s theme? Why?
Composition
What do you think of the composition? Is it balanced? Is there a way to make it how the artist wants?
Balance (tonal)
Is there a reasonable balance of dark and light shapes? Do the tones match the intended mood? Are the darkest/lightest shapes interesting?
Colour
Do the colours appear natural/alien? How well do they define the mood of the image? Could the colours be improved? Which ones? Why? Did they use a palette effectively? Did they need to?
Shape
Does the image contain overall interesting shapes? How do these shapes affect the image? Could shapes be added/subtracted? Which ones and why?
Attention
What is the centre of attention for you? Why? What is it supposed to be?
Refinement
Did they work long enough on the image? Did they work too long on it? Did they go overboard with what they were trying to say? Could the message/forms be refined? How? Why? Could it do with/without a border of some kind?
Details
Are there hidden packets of detail that make you want to come back for more? Do you enjoy the detail of the image or is it too busy to look at? Is the image perhaps too sharp or too soft? Is it supposed to be?
Figures (animals)
Body Language
What can you read of the body language of the character? Was it done well? Does it make you feel better/worse about the image? Why?
Expression
What does the expression of the character tell you? How does this make you feel? How does this alter your perception of the image? Why?
Balance (body)
Are the characters in balance? How does this affect the feel of the image? How does this change your disposition towards the character?
Appeal
Do you actually like the character’s appearance/personality? Why? What do you think of the character in regards to appearance and/or personality?
Accuracy
Are the details of the character how the artist wants them? For example, do they match the style the artist was attempting? If not, what can be improved? Why?
Association
Are you able to connect with the character? Why? Are you supposed to be able to? Is there a way to improve the intended connection?
Background (non-figures)
Detail
Is the background busy/calm enough to suit the mood of the image? Is it too distracting/plain? Why? What could be improved?
Realism
Does the background look accurate to life? If it is supposed to but doesn’t, what could be improved?
Emotion
What does the background make you feel? Which parts make you feel this way? Why?
Figures
If the image has no figures, could it do with some? Why? If it has some, could it do without? Why? How would this affect the theme of the image?
Connection
Do you feel an affinity for the depicted scenery/background? Does it affect how you feel about the image? How?
What Not To Say
Okay, so this is just what I think, but these are some things I would avoid saying, as most people don’t like to hear them.
Untalented
Don’t tell someone they have talent. Talent is circumstantial, and if it’s untested, it’s going to waste. Some artists are at the stage where they just need general encouragement. It’s the beginning stages of a great artist.
Resemblance
Telling someone their character looks like someone else is unhelpful and sometimes insulting. Don’t do it – please.
Unappealing
If you tell an artist you don’t like their image, how do you expect them to respond? Is it their fault that you don’t like it? Do you have to like it to appreciate it?
Raw Comments
I go on about these sometimes. Basically, it’s a comment with no depth. “Awesome” is a grand example of this. Is that really the impression you want to leave on the artist? Do no other words come to mind when you look at it?
First Comment! Yay!
No yay. No. Just no. Just don’t. I display my comments from newest to oldest. Don’t be silly.
Advertising
Don’t talk about your work when you’re supposed to be talking about someone else’s. It’s extremely rude.
Ungrateful
Don’t tell the artist they’re being ungrateful and should respond to your comments. Is art about artists or is it about art?
Comparing
Don’t tell the artist they could do better. Don’t you think that if they were capable of doing so, they would have? They may well have a reason for not “doing better”. Think first.
Medium-Specific
Here are other things to comment on according to the medium. These are the three I have experience in, so I can’t comment on anything more. Sorry.
Traditional Drawing
Medium quality, courage, method of application, eraser usage, utilisation of materials…
Digital Drawing
Brush usage, custom brushes, texture, layer usage, filter usage, file size/resolution…
Photography
Focus, filters, lighting, angle, darkroom work, "photoshopping", candidness…
To Conclude
And nothing else is coming to mind, so that’s the end of that. Was that a tutorial? No? Oh well. If you’re not sure how to put something, remember that everything comes down to opinion and intent. Don’t feel bad about praising an artist, either! Critique doesn’t have to be just what’s wrong with the image OR even how to fix these “errors”, though the latter is quite valid.
You are generally allowed to make suggestions, as long as you word them as such.
You are also allowed to say positive things about a piece of work. Isn’t that what it’s for?
Why create art if there is no feeling of pride or success during the process or at the end?
As a side note, why aren’t there tutorials on how to favourite a work yet I can easily write five pages on how to comment?
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Comments: 124
treijim In reply to HaniB [2008-03-25 23:40:27 +0000 UTC]
That's odd. It's just text. Oh well, it's all in the Artist Comments ^_^
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Edme In reply to ??? [2008-03-02 22:01:37 +0000 UTC]
This might turn out to be very useful. I always try my best to say something constructive without help, but I get to meet quite lot of people who fave my stuff (I always appreciate it), but don't know what to say actually .
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Word-worth-1000-pics [2008-01-10 00:43:42 +0000 UTC]
This deviation has been chosen as a feature of the week
on *Word-worth-1000-pics which is a community project
promoting visual art deviants
It has been found from the word : "BEGINNING "
you can see it featured here: [link]
To know how it works: [link]
F.A.Q. : [link]
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Zurite In reply to ??? [2008-01-02 04:34:10 +0000 UTC]
This also seems to be a maturity tutorial.
Something I was just looking for.
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Zurite In reply to treijim [2008-02-18 20:44:20 +0000 UTC]
... yeah I guess. why, is that a bad thing? D:
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treijim In reply to Zurite [2008-02-18 20:54:53 +0000 UTC]
The fact that you may recognise your own maturity is a sign of maturity :]
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tikimiku In reply to ??? [2007-12-24 01:05:12 +0000 UTC]
This tutorial was very helpful and I now realize some of the raw comments I made in the past. I'm going to try and take your advice the next time I comment on something.
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rowenabrennavart In reply to ??? [2007-11-16 23:27:40 +0000 UTC]
I've been featured here [link]
Tell me if that's ok with you, if not I'll remove it right away ^-^ Thank you for doing this deviation!
Help to spread the word if you can! n_n Love,
Cris
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treijim In reply to rowenabrennavart [2007-11-20 05:08:56 +0000 UTC]
I think you mean I've been featured That's fine. Thanks!
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rowenabrennavart In reply to treijim [2007-11-21 22:57:26 +0000 UTC]
yes, yes, I meant that! xD You are welcome n_n
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rowenabrennavart [2007-11-16 22:32:58 +0000 UTC]
featured here: [link]
Thank you for sharing this
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laurabeth In reply to ??? [2007-11-06 16:35:35 +0000 UTC]
When you spend 12 hours doing nothing but staring out of a window, you have a lot of time to think about things are reflect on the way you view matters. One of them was how I noticed people not taking a good comment well because there was critique in it. Even if it is good critique, not harsh, but helpful, some people just don't respond to it correctly. There should be a tutorial on how to interpret and react to comments
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treijim In reply to laurabeth [2007-11-07 01:22:37 +0000 UTC]
Commenting is not a restricted form of art, and responding should be natural, but etiquette and manners should always be involved. I don't think a tutorial on how to reply would be very suitable because it's too individual.
What do you think is the correct way to respond to a good comment? What are bad replies?
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laurabeth In reply to treijim [2007-11-07 02:18:06 +0000 UTC]
I like it when people answer all the questions the commenter asks, unless the answer is unknown. These are personal feelings, though. I also like it when they accept your criticism and not try to avoid it, like it wasn't there. I don't give it often, it's not something people expect out of me anyway, mostly 'cause I feel uncomfortable with it most times.
I don't like generic replies. I've actually seen people copy-paste the same reply to every comment they received. Which I feel is insensitive (with a good comment that the deviant spent much time writing) and rude. *erases rambling*
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treijim In reply to laurabeth [2007-11-07 20:58:35 +0000 UTC]
I know what you mean about people ignoring criticism, though I have to confess I am guilty of that, but that's only when I believe their criticism had absolutely no basis, or had already been said numerous times in other comments, and I know that telling them this will conjure something ugly. Other than that, I try to address it as often as I can.
If someone gives generic replies, either don't comment or give generic comments. It's only fair
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laurabeth In reply to treijim [2007-11-08 02:47:42 +0000 UTC]
I was talking about good ones, dear.
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treijim In reply to laurabeth [2007-11-08 21:13:41 +0000 UTC]
The commenter may think their own criticism is good but it could still hold no value. What if the artist already spent a good hour considering this addition/alteration, and then the commenter throws it in unthinkingly as though they know all about it? People need to be careful sometimes~
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laurabeth In reply to treijim [2007-11-09 00:18:10 +0000 UTC]
I hope you're not referring to me
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treijim In reply to laurabeth [2007-11-09 00:22:09 +0000 UTC]
Haha, not specifically. I don't remember a specific occasion where you did this. I've probably done it myself anyway. We're all guilty of being human
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CritiqueMeClub In reply to ??? [2007-11-06 15:11:45 +0000 UTC]
This is some great advice and would like the club to be able to make use of it if we could?
=StuMac1985
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Miyukitty [2007-10-28 19:33:46 +0000 UTC]
I hope this does get around, because it's great advice. ^^
In my college courses, we frequently do critiques on our work, and it's amazing just how simple you made it sound, when paid professors waste hours trying to explain these exact words...
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treijim In reply to Miyukitty [2007-10-28 23:43:45 +0000 UTC]
I think too many people try to over-complicate it, so that they feel superior because nobody else knows what they're talking about. Maybe I should become a professor 8D Not
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Miyukitty In reply to treijim [2007-10-29 05:17:21 +0000 UTC]
xDDD
Naw, you totally should!! I'd love to have you as a professor - I'd listen to you a lot more, I can tell ya that much.
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treijim In reply to Miyukitty [2007-10-29 05:28:28 +0000 UTC]
Aww that's very nice. I'm afraid I don't know who you are, though <_< You speak as though we've talked before somewhere. I'm sorry. I don't remember everyone that comments on my things
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Miyukitty In reply to treijim [2007-10-29 05:32:56 +0000 UTC]
That's fine, I didn't expect ya to remember me. :3 About a year ago, we had a long chat about Fire Emblem, on your "Children of Destiny" with Ninian and Nils. I watched you since then, but I haven't commented much. ^^
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treijim In reply to Miyukitty [2007-11-01 00:38:06 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I remember the picture, and your name rings a bell... Thanks anyway~
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Miyukitty In reply to treijim [2007-11-01 04:59:31 +0000 UTC]
Lol, no prob! I shall continue stalking you from the shadows... *___*
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TwinSol In reply to ??? [2007-10-28 15:42:54 +0000 UTC]
Now this just needs to get to the right people. Maybe a sticky in the forums for new members to read before they comment.
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Miyukitty In reply to darktinx [2007-10-28 19:34:13 +0000 UTC]
...Did you even read the piece? :/
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darktinx In reply to Miyukitty [2007-10-29 00:58:48 +0000 UTC]
NO and if I want to comment like this i can and dont boder OK
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treijim In reply to Miyukitty [2007-10-28 20:59:26 +0000 UTC]
He always comments like that...
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darktinx In reply to treijim [2007-10-29 00:59:21 +0000 UTC]
sorry if u dont like how I comment
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Miyukitty In reply to treijim [2007-10-28 21:34:44 +0000 UTC]
...That's sad, considering that he just commented on a deviation about "how to comment". *sigh* But I get those too...
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darktinx In reply to Miyukitty [2007-10-29 01:00:17 +0000 UTC]
hey it not sad hust because i said that and i hust sai it`s cool because it can help people comment ok
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