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Description Stand-in Chapter Four 86

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yello123frisc456 In reply to ??? [2019-10-28 19:19:52 +0000 UTC]

Hahahahaha. That's hilarious

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SansFangirl4life [2019-10-28 11:58:16 +0000 UTC]

a very angry bonefriend xD

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Triangle-cat In reply to SansFangirl4life [2019-10-30 11:03:27 +0000 UTC]

This somehow sounds like a game notification xD
*You got a very angry bonefriend*

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ShadowLegionnaire In reply to ??? [2019-10-28 08:47:22 +0000 UTC]

Gotta love Sans. Asking the real questions.

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Triangle-cat In reply to ShadowLegionnaire [2019-10-28 11:30:27 +0000 UTC]

It matters, after all

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Icanya In reply to ??? [2019-10-28 07:55:14 +0000 UTC]

I think Chara already try to change after what's the real point Frisk telling to Chara for everything

But still Sans pretty look piss at Chara for after what happen Sans and also Toriel eardrop to hear Chara throw tantrum confessing everything at Frisk until turn Chara breaks the mirror (Only Chara and Frisk can communicate each other)

The way Sans eyes looking at Chara after Chara done conversation there's still hatred on himself on her.

Even no matter what Toriel or even Papyrus give forgiveness what Chara have done but still Sans have strongly major hatred toward at her 

Also I think give extra Sans be like say to Chara "you think everything what you have done is forgiven just like that even you pretend like doing nothing on this day? Pretty hilarious human hypocrite like you are . . 

(This is my opinion only but if you guys still have another opinions or if I do some common mistake please let me know about it)

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VoidColor-Sans In reply to Icanya [2019-10-28 08:15:30 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I think Sans does have a lot of hatred and mistrust of Chara, understandably so, after what Chara did and is still kinda doing.  I do think Chara is going to try to start to change for the better.  Im all for that, Im all for redemption, and for people trying to be better people, even some of the worse people who have done dome horrible stuff, heck one of my fav. anime characters of all time is like that (probably even worse than Chara was at the beginning of the sotry they were in), they have suffered a lot, and if they truly try to be better Im all for forgiving. 

That is however not the issue here, Chara has gotta prove that he s trying to do that to Sans, because of all people here, he is the one that needs to earn Sans forgiveness, because even though I want Chara and Sans to make up, Sans hatred and anger towards Chara is understandable, esp. considering what Chara and The Player did in the past before the story and even the stuff Chara did in the beginning of the story, plus all the stuff with Frisk, who Sans really cares for.  To be honest I feel like both Sans and Chara both need to try to be better people and more open with people, I think that will help towards making up and moving forward and healing.  But while I say that, Chara is the one that truly has a lot to make up for.

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Icanya In reply to VoidColor-Sans [2019-10-28 08:28:01 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree of this!!

Most important is Chara need give apologize everything not just only Sans but also involve everyone too

I understand her past but doesn't mean she can throw share all her suffer to everyone else on this present
Sound pretty ego and yet selfish to Chara

But for now Chara learn to rid away of her old past but and try to make new start all over so she can finally be feel freedom herself

But doesn't mean that she full completely forget her past but the most important let the chapter mistake became reminder who she is and let the mistake give as lesson to understandable and yet not repeat mistake for what she have done.(bruh idk if I say this right ;w; )

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VoidColor-Sans In reply to Icanya [2019-10-28 08:49:04 +0000 UTC]

Its fine, I get what ur saying, and I pretty much totally agree. 

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Icanya In reply to VoidColor-Sans [2019-10-28 09:34:43 +0000 UTC]

I glad you understand it ^^

This story so very fun to read and also interesting

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Naehja In reply to Icanya [2019-10-28 15:20:25 +0000 UTC]

one little thing: Chara is a boy here, it's Frisk who is a girl. (yes Chara lives in Frisk's body but..)

Also I'm agree with you for all your analysis

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Icanya In reply to Naehja [2019-10-28 15:49:46 +0000 UTC]

Ouh :0

Man I didn't notice that Chara is a boy xD
(Like you already told that Chara lives on Frisk body)

Also thank you and I'm glad to hear that you agreed of just my opinion tho :'3

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Allclonesbride In reply to ??? [2019-10-28 07:54:51 +0000 UTC]

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Triangle-cat In reply to Allclonesbride [2019-10-28 11:29:51 +0000 UTC]

I know he might be something like "atmosphere destroyer" at the moment for some reason, but we can't blame him too much, can we?

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VoidColor-Sans In reply to ??? [2019-10-28 07:34:29 +0000 UTC]

Oh no, protective Sans, ur gonna get it Chara.  Seriously though, I do hope Sans and Chara start to make up, they are more similar than they think (maybe besides the whole geno route that is one of the reasons they hate each oter so much, since they see themselves in the other.  Though Sans defin. has reasons to hate and distrust Chara, and vice versa as well for Chara hating Sans, though I think its more valid in Sans' case since Chara did murder him and the people he cares for multiple times.  And Sans esp. when pushed to the limits isnt very forgiving, or at least he doesnt forget very easily.  Still love Chara though, in this comic:  Sans, Frisk, Chara, and Tori are my favs.). 

Esp. since they are gonna need to get along, for Sans and Frisk to genuinely be together.  Hope to see more Sans and Frisk stuff and Frans goodness soon, and some more stuff of Sans and Tori BFFs and Tori and Asgore being the parents they are to Frisk and Chara.  Also, it would be cool to see some bro stuff, I think Sans kinda needs a talking to like Chara did/ does. 

Seriously, nice page and even though I said want more Frans goodness soon, since I love Frans so much, Im still loving this comic so much.  The story is great, and I love slower paced stuff, u know slow burns with lots of build up, esp. since any outcome, etc. feels earned and natural.  Also I have been getting to see some of my fav. character dynamics/ interactions a lot for this comic and just in general (not including Frans and some other stuff which we have indeed been getting too), ie Sans and Chara and Frisk and Chara.  Ill patiently wait for the next page, u left on such a cliffhanger though, ur so mean, haha.

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kaliu6 In reply to VoidColor-Sans [2019-10-28 21:57:06 +0000 UTC]

Hmm why do you think Chara and Sans are similar? True, they are both manipulative and go all out in their "fight" against each other, to the point that Frisk takes collateral dmg from both, but Sans is way less... malicious?

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kaliu6 In reply to kaliu6 [2022-03-01 12:55:53 +0000 UTC]

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VoidColor-Sans In reply to kaliu6 [2022-03-01 12:33:19 +0000 UTC]

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Triangle-cat In reply to VoidColor-Sans [2019-10-28 11:27:01 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much. And yeah, everyone has a reason to take actions in this story.

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chaathon In reply to ??? [2019-10-28 07:31:58 +0000 UTC]

oof

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imge1608 [2019-10-28 07:24:50 +0000 UTC]

I don't think i like sans anymore. I never liked him in the video game but here i also don't like him.

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kaliu6 In reply to imge1608 [2019-10-28 21:54:52 +0000 UTC]

Heh, can't say I relate. Chara has been pretty jarring and manipulative the whole time - I would be so much more pissed off if I were Sans. Not saying he is all pure and innocent, quite the contrary, he did give that weird substance to Chara and treated them badly and whatnot. Yes, Chara is misunderstood and has suffered but just because you suffer doesn't mean you can just take it out on others. Also, I do think Sans is more pissed off on behalf of Frisk who has to deal with all of Chara's sh*t and gets hurt mentally and now also physically in the process. Not so much for himself, if you think about it - he humbly accepted defeat after the fight even though Chara basically cheated with the comment about him and Frisk..er... frisking it up. Not trying to excuse Sans' rudeness, just showing a different perspective.

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Triangle-cat In reply to imge1608 [2019-10-28 11:25:56 +0000 UTC]

I feel you some way actually, but... let's just let the author (pretends) being objective and impartial at the moment xD

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imge1608 In reply to Triangle-cat [2019-10-28 16:35:20 +0000 UTC]

Lol, if it was me I would make a fake account just to comment about my thoughts! I'm planing to do that when I start my own comic.

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LadySolonna In reply to imge1608 [2019-10-28 08:18:15 +0000 UTC]

I'm not gonna defend Sans



I'll just say - put yourself in his shoes, and tell me you wouldn't act the same way


and I mean through the entire story, not just this page

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imge1608 In reply to LadySolonna [2019-10-28 09:00:54 +0000 UTC]

Yea you are right I would do same I guess but I don't know. Something about Sans makes me angry. Yea I'm pretty much prejudging him but since i saw him in "dinner with sans" scene i don't like him. He doesn't seem much different than that Sans in this comic to me. But I'm a very unstable person my perspective may change fastly few pages later.

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VoidColor-Sans In reply to imge1608 [2019-10-28 09:27:25 +0000 UTC]

I kinda get that, maybe read my comment down below about why in-game Sans may hate or distrust Frisk, humans, The Player, and/ or Anomalies.  It may put into context a little more about why Sans made his "threat", thought probably more like a promise that Sans made in the "Dinner with Sans" scene.  I honestly love that scene, because I think it makes him even more interesting and complex, but I can understand why that may make u not like him, Sans is defin. pretty flawed and isnt necessarily either a good or bad person or monster, haha. 

Im also pretty emotional too, and get really attached to fiction esp., but I also love a lot of characters that doesnt really fall into bad/ evil or good, or can even be seen as outright evil, esp. in our world, and maybe even their's somewhat, but I can still understand, sympathize and like them.  And I esp. like when those more "evil" characters change for the better or we more human sides of them, makes them more interesting, seem more like real people to me, and I get more invested in them.  To me Sans in general and Frisk and Chara (everyone really, but esp. these 3) in this comic can be seen as very "human".  Though, I dont think Chara and maybe even Sans would like me describing them as very human.

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VoidColor-Sans In reply to LadySolonna [2019-10-28 08:47:59 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.  Yes, I think Chara deserves the chance to be better.  But you have to remember Chara did the Geno route with The Player (plus all the resets probably B4 that even if they were done with good intentions, was probably pretty jarring for Sans, esp. since he had already dealt with Flowey before Frisk fell.  Though I doubt they reset much, hopefully, I just dont see this Frisk doing it that much, unless it was for good reasons), Chara also killed Sans and a bunch of other monsters probably at the beginning of the series in the 1st chapter, basically took Frisk away from him for years (at least from his pov) and did not seem very willing to let Frisk have her body back at all before she did come back, and after Frisk came back, basically held Frisk hostage and manipulated stuff so she would have more control of "their" body and Frisk would be "awake" less and less. 

And just talking about the game canon, there is the time Flowey ruled the world, previous fallen humans that killed monsters, and then Frisk (with Chara) that had the power to reset and pretty much control time, and even if they never used it for anything bad, reliving the same amount of time over and over again would be horrible, then there is the Gaster and Pap stuff, monsters being locked away by humans, etc., so even in-game he has plenty of reasons for hatred and to be mistrustful and even apathetic at times of people like Frisk and others, though he is for the most part pretty patient and gives plenty of chances, not that he is prefect, he really isnt, just like Chara isnt, Sans is defin. one of those characters that like Chara I feel like is trying to be a good person and be better, mainly like Chara he has suffered a lot. 

And when u consider Stand-in canon plus in-game canon (I didnt go over everything, because that would be too long, or fall too much into interpretations & theory territory), Sans has plenty of reasons at this point to hate and not want trust of forgive Chara.  Sure, Sans may seem overly cruel this page, esp. with all we have learned about Chara, but Sans didnt hear all of that, and this anger towards Chara by Sans has been building up this whole series.  Again, I truly feel bad for Chara, but I also feel bad for Sans, and I very much understand his prescriptive in this, honestly I feel like a lot of people would act like Sans in this page, and even more doubly so makes sense when considering Sans' personality, which is protective, though sometimes kinda controlling, I partially blame his intelligence and his experience in life up till now for that.  I want Sans and Chara to make up, but I also understand that unlike a lot of the readers why Sans may not be so willing to forgive Chara yet, though I hope they do someday.

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