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Description more dwarven war masks. some of these I did (or atleast started) before the ones here , so they're a little more rough around the edges.

for the one at the bottom, the nose and cheeks going down to the mustache is all one plate, which can be pulled down to cover the face against dragon fire, or worn open, with the face plate sliding back on the forehead; not a bad idea in theory, but that slit visor is way too robocop for the more archaic feel I was going for, I think a more scuplted face with two distinct eyes would have been better.

for the one on the left I completely abandoned the straight edged, geometric style established by the films. I'm a big fan of that style, and have done most of my dwarf related work in it, but sometimes it's good to break away from a certain way of thinking and try something different, otherwise thinks can get too rigid (literally in this case ) personally I kind of like the rather more antique, authentic, riveted-together feel of it. It's certainly not my most imaginative work to date, but honestly making it not particularly original was something of a conscious choice. The silmarillion is, i think, a far less original work, aesthetically, than the lord of the rings; tolkien doesnt throw weird design curve balls at you like the numenorean karma helmets, and there are no glaring anachronisms like the tobacco smoking hobbits, or extensive looks at 'other' or "non-western" cultures (besides brodda's people, who i think of as more "slavic" as easterlings go, not so distantly separated from the edain, and not nearly so far-afield as the third age easterlings in service to sauron) the silmarillion is overwhelmingly northern/germanic in tone; it feels much more like an authenic saga, like you'd expect to have come from the dark ages (i think it's because it was started when tolkien was so young, and seems to come from much more a place of imitating the authentic epic sagas that he loved, rather than the more original and inventive "world building" he got so into later on) To that end, I often try, when drawing things from the silmarillion, to root them a little more deeply in the look and feel of dark age northern europe, and I wonder if that helmet isnt a little closer to what tolkien (who probably had the sutton hoo helmet atleast partially in mind while writing about the dwarven war masks) was picturing.
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KarakNornClansman [2016-04-15 01:30:28 +0000 UTC]

You sure know how to draw Dwarves! Spot-on! Master craftsman masked helmets for sure.

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noleme [2014-02-18 08:57:54 +0000 UTC]

Great designs, they look both practical and intimidating. I can imagine the Dragon Helm looking somewhat like this, as the dragon-on-top-of-ordinary-helmet doesn't seem scary to me a bit. I'm trying not to feel upset at the likening of my people to Brodda's thugs, though. Β 

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TurnerMohan In reply to noleme [2014-02-19 07:00:18 +0000 UTC]

Eastern european? dont feel too upset, as a person of mostly celtic (irish and scottish) ancestry, I get a little miffed sometimes about the presentation of the very celt-like dunlandings in LOTR as marauding savages, but then again it's tolkien's fantasy world and I guess he can write it however he wants . As for the helmet, yeah I hear you about the intimidation factor, alan lee's take on the dragon helm didnt do much for me.

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Meisiluosi In reply to TurnerMohan [2014-05-28 22:05:50 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I tend to think of Easterlings as a very vague, broad category. In terms of real world analogies, they can be pretty much anybody non-germanic whose homeland lies east of "The West".
Some might have been fairly "Slavonic" but the desrciption given by Tolkien sounds rather -- Hunnic. That is - allowing for a good deal of variety but overall pretty exotic.
I usually imagine 1st Age Easterlings as rather Central Asian. It feels right and looks good.
(Just for the record, as I actually like the bunch, the analogies with Slavs don't really bother me, even though I'm a Slav myself...)

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noleme In reply to TurnerMohan [2014-02-19 08:50:17 +0000 UTC]

It was partly meant as a joke, but I'm actually really curious in what ways you think that the Silmarillion Easterlings resemble a Slavic tribe, and the Dunlendings a Celtic tribe. I've never thought about either Tolkienverse people in this way. I see them simply as primitive (compared to the 'Western' M-e cultures, that is) tribes without a base in the real world.

Yup, Alan Lee's rendition of the Dragon Helm is exactly what I had in mind. Pretty, but not at all scary.

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BenjaminOssoff [2014-02-18 02:44:39 +0000 UTC]

A lot of culture in these masks. Great design work! It would be awesome to see them realized physically as a sculpture or costume.

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TurnerMohan In reply to BenjaminOssoff [2014-02-19 06:54:59 +0000 UTC]

hmm, now that's an idea. I'd love to make one of them in metal (I have some experience making armor for renn-fairs) but I'd have to finalize a design I was happy with first.

another fine entry on the miles' long "future projects" list

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Zeonista [2014-02-17 15:27:26 +0000 UTC]

For another version of this stylistic approach, there is fellow deviant Tulikoura's depiction of Turin wearing the Dragon Helm.

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TurnerMohan In reply to Zeonista [2014-02-19 06:46:05 +0000 UTC]

Tulikoura's take on the dragon helm (like all his dwarvish work) is very good and, like ekukanova's version , seems to draw from some of the same sources as my dwarvish masks (most notably the nordic, anglo saxon helms, especially the sutton hoo helmet)

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Zeonista In reply to TurnerMohan [2014-02-19 16:21:38 +0000 UTC]

Agreed, there is some common origin here, although the interpretation is wonderfully diverse. Tulikoura's helm looks like it was taken from the Belegost select armory as a chosen gift for a friend. The helm done by ekukanova looks like the Dwarves deliberately crafted it for a Man to wear, and the quasi-classical mask does give it a menpo echo as well. It's not "hideous to look upon", just fiercely implacable. Maybe the orcs thought it was hideous!

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Zeonista [2014-02-17 06:05:07 +0000 UTC]

These are all some excellent helms in the styles you had mentioned in your previous deviation post. Β  It's interesting that the 4 helms here all start with the same basic shape, aventail, and mask arrangement. But then they all are crafted and decorated for individual tastes and identity.

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Gabbanoche [2014-02-16 14:23:09 +0000 UTC]

My favorite is the "more vikingish design", because it looks more practical than the others(yes i know its fantasy, but still!). And if you're going for that look you should google some Vendel era helmets (the craftsmanship is bananas on those helmets. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… ).


The Sutton-Hoo one looks more like a Kipchak helmet (upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… ) which probably aint that bad of an idea if you want to go for the hole mask thing, since Kipchaks used a lot of them.


And i like the mutton chops idea, makes me think of Japanese Menpo. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…

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TurnerMohan In reply to Gabbanoche [2014-02-16 17:12:45 +0000 UTC]

the two on the left (the "more vikingish" one, and the sutton hoo inspired one) were infact drawn from the very helmets you reference. I''ve been a big time fan of that particular long nosed vendel helmet for years (even made a cardboard verison of it, in preparation for a metal version which i sadly never got around to) and the Kipchaks were indeed an inspiration on that other one (especially in the weird, almost smiling expression and pointed cap) the dwarves in the silmarillion are described as wearing "great masks, hideous to look upon."

It's hard to deny the impact of those japanese, masks, and I'm still searching for the right mixture of all those styles into a consistant, and convincingly dwarvish design.

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Gabbanoche In reply to TurnerMohan [2014-02-16 17:56:05 +0000 UTC]

Hah i'm surprised that there is fantasy guys actually studying historical armor! I guess WOW and other crap have made me prejudice

And yes the Kipchak smile is weird!


I think that a mask equipped with the sternness of the Vendel helmets ornamented eyebrows and the "madness" of the Samurai mask would look pretty cool. in that way you could still do it int the squared manner of the films but still strike out, becaus yours would then have an expression.


"hideous to look upon" to me says that the masks should be able to scare both Elf and Orc

Swedish artist Alvaro Tapia has illustrated some stuff for that Dungeons and dragons thing and altho the dwarf there seems to be meatball-stocky fellas, they do have these wild masks. Maybe they could give you some ideas, i dunno. 1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/bo…

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TurnerMohan In reply to Gabbanoche [2014-02-19 06:51:10 +0000 UTC]

when drawing fantasy armor I usually tend to look more to historical armor for inspiration than to other fantasy art (though those D&D dwarvish masks are pretty cool )

I think you're describing the right mix

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Gabbanoche In reply to TurnerMohan [2014-02-19 13:02:03 +0000 UTC]

For that i salute you!

I hope you'll find the mix your after

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Artigas In reply to Gabbanoche [2014-02-17 21:29:48 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I was going to teel you about the same artist. Look for drakar och demoner, Trudvang.

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