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Description Allow me to humbly present the latest picture in what will continue to be an increasing gallery. This image is actually kind of a promotional picture for my KP fanfic, "The More Things Change..." (check out my Profile here - [link] - for all of my stories). Obviously, some of the players you'll recognize and others you won't. You'll have to read the story to...well...get the full story.

(Just as a little hint, though, the guy dressed in black with the cane is named Maximillion. And no, Shego doesn't like him very much. You'll have to read the story to find out why.)

Frankly, I didn't envision that this pic would end up being so crowded. Every character I wanted to add is in here, but I was hoping for more open space (kind of have everything blending together like on a Disney movie poster). Unfortunately, as the pencil work wore on, it just didn't work out that way. Still, when all was said and done, I think it came out half decent and I hope you all enjoy it. As always, any and all comments are appreciated.
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TuxedAaron In reply to ??? [2024-09-17 21:53:31 +0000 UTC]

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Kermitthefrog223456 [2022-01-14 23:41:21 +0000 UTC]

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TuxedAaron In reply to Kermitthefrog223456 [2022-01-15 00:10:55 +0000 UTC]

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Kermitthefrog223456 In reply to TuxedAaron [2022-01-15 00:15:02 +0000 UTC]

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TuxedAaron In reply to Kermitthefrog223456 [2022-01-15 00:17:30 +0000 UTC]

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TuxedAaron In reply to Kermitthefrog223456 [2022-01-15 00:27:13 +0000 UTC]

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Kermitthefrog223456 In reply to TuxedAaron [2022-01-15 00:32:00 +0000 UTC]

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TuxedAaron In reply to Kermitthefrog223456 [2022-01-15 21:05:24 +0000 UTC]

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Kermitthefrog223456 In reply to TuxedAaron [2022-01-15 23:15:14 +0000 UTC]

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Leopardprint11 [2017-07-05 18:36:44 +0000 UTC]

Awesome job on Drakken! And Shego!

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TuxedAaron In reply to Leopardprint11 [2017-07-06 03:44:41 +0000 UTC]

Well, that's an older picture, so I'm sure I could do MUCH better now.  Glad you like it, though. ^_^

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Leopardprint11 In reply to TuxedAaron [2017-07-06 21:55:20 +0000 UTC]

It would be cool to see you do a new one! And, how could I NOT like it?  

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TuxedAaron In reply to Leopardprint11 [2017-07-06 23:45:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, we might see about something at a later time.  For right now, keep enjoying what's there. ^_^

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pottersparky [2016-02-17 15:42:44 +0000 UTC]

I like it a lot just as like your other new team possible artwork. I think doc D looks be afraid of something. You should do more artwork with team possible with the bad guys. It always fun to read your Kim possible and Danny phantom stories. I love reading about Max. Keep up the good work! I always have my support. 

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TuxedAaron In reply to pottersparky [2016-02-17 18:57:19 +0000 UTC]

Glad you liked the pic.  With regards to Drakken, well, he's going to be a little freaked out by Max for a while, not knowing what to make of him and all.

Well, more villain artwork will be coming down the pike in due time.

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RikkiArosa [2013-11-30 07:17:29 +0000 UTC]

You are so making me want to read those fanfics, which in I did say a while ago that when I get a chance I will. Well, this is the perfect time to do that

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TuxedAaron In reply to RikkiArosa [2013-11-30 12:59:06 +0000 UTC]

Well, I certainly hope you like what you see.  I'm planning to have a new KP fic written before too much longer here.^_^

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RikkiArosa In reply to TuxedAaron [2013-12-01 02:44:01 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful, I'll be sure to get to reading them probably from tonight lol

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TuxedAaron In reply to RikkiArosa [2013-12-01 08:40:48 +0000 UTC]

Well, hopefully, you'll like what you see.^_^

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amazoness-king [2013-05-07 15:20:29 +0000 UTC]

I always figured that ion cannon was a little bigger and covered her whole arm? Oh well still an awesome pic

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TuxedAaron In reply to amazoness-king [2013-05-07 16:15:49 +0000 UTC]

You actually wouldn't be the first to think that. Personally, I was thinking about the irony of something so small being so packing such power in the right circumstances.^_^

Glad you liked the pic. Not everything here came out the way I wanted it to, mostly because everyone ended up taking too much space on the page. Still, it turned out alright.^_^

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amazoness-king In reply to TuxedAaron [2013-05-07 16:43:48 +0000 UTC]

Well regardless the pic is great that's all that matters right?

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TuxedAaron In reply to amazoness-king [2013-05-07 17:00:57 +0000 UTC]

True enough. Glad you like it.^_^

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amazoness-king In reply to TuxedAaron [2013-05-07 21:35:20 +0000 UTC]

I hope you'll be able to get to burner's pic before you focus all your attention on your fanfics, cause I remember you saying you were gonna tweek his appearance and I wanna see what you came up with. Would it help if I stop messaging so much I don't wanna be a distraction?

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TuxedAaron In reply to amazoness-king [2013-05-08 11:05:57 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'd like to get ALL my pics out of the way before I even start thinking about fanfics. And for what it's worth, I wouldn't mind a few less messages. I mean, I WANT to work on my pics. But when I come to my desk, I've three messages from you here...then I have to reply to you on fanfiction...Then I've got three other people to reply to...and by the time I'm done, I don't want to be sitting at my desk anymore. I've got to get away.

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amazoness-king In reply to TuxedAaron [2013-05-08 13:36:14 +0000 UTC]

Point taken

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DS4ever [2012-08-19 03:57:42 +0000 UTC]

Now this is a very cool season 5 right there...though the flowery thingy of Drakken was kinda missing

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-19 04:04:17 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it. As for Drakken's lack of "floral" decor, actually, he still has those powers in my fanfic series (on which this pic is based). You just don't see them here. However, since he's only really appeared in cameos so far (I'll be getting to some Drakken stories eventually, but I haven't written one yet) you haven't seen him do much with them just yet. But for what it's worth, I AM planning on him having a kind of "Dr. Octopus" thing going on.

Anyway, hope you found the rest of my pics just as enjoyable. And if you haven't read my KP fanfic series yet (and if you'll forgive a shameless plug), perhaps you might find that interesting as well.^_^

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-19 04:17:21 +0000 UTC]

Now thats cool

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-19 04:35:49 +0000 UTC]

Would that be my fanfics or the "Doc Ock" thing I'm planning to go with?^_^

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-19 04:39:53 +0000 UTC]

i would go with both...so amazing...you should pass me a link of the fanfics especially the ones enrounding the life of D/S in post-graduation...although i know i am so late since they are in many new adventures and possibly are parents now jeje

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-19 04:46:07 +0000 UTC]

Actually, in my Danny Phantom series, Danny and Sam are still in school. But we HAVE seen their future selves. I'm actually planning on writing a couple of "Future" stories later on, but I'm not there yet. You might want to check out what I have, nevertheless. Most of my stories can be found posted here on DA. But if you'd like to see them ALL (there are a couple of stories that I haven't posted here yet), you can just go to my Profile on fanfiction.net ([link] ).

Hope you like what you see. Oh, and as for my KP series, Kim and Ron are both in college.^_^

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-20 23:51:00 +0000 UTC]

Danny and Samantha are other of my fave pairings in animated series...Danny Phantom was like the Kim Possible of Nickelodeon and when it finished it hurted me alot...in my name DS4Ever not only means as a acronym of Drakken and Shego forever but as well as Danny and Sam forever...notice the similarity

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-21 10:05:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, if you'd like to continue enjoying Danny Phantom (and if you don't mind a shameless plug), perhaps you wouldn't mind checking out my fanfic series sometime.^_^

As for Drakken and Shego, Well, I'm not ignoring the possibility of them getting together. It just hasn't happened yet in my stories. It'll probably happen in time, just not right away. I want to ease them into it a bit more.^_^

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-22 20:51:08 +0000 UTC]

now thats cool...you know i also wish they make a season 4 of danny phantom...i also miss that show it was the bomb...it was like the counterpart show of KP in Nick...and it is way better than the new nick shows

WHY DO GREAT SHOWS HAVE TO END WHY

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-23 03:51:45 +0000 UTC]

Well, at the time I think Nickelodeon was doing something similar to what Fox was doing back in the 90s. Back then, if a show didn't immediately generate the same ratings as the Simpsons or the X-Files, Fox went and panned it. Nick seemed to be doing the same thing with any show that didn't immediately do as well as Spongebob or FOP.

Of course, Nick's other problem is that they're going in the same direction as Disney these days, shifting their focus from animation and trying their hand at a wave of crappy tween sitcoms. Frankly, I really don't understand the attraction.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-23 17:37:02 +0000 UTC]

is true i saw that DP merely made 53 episodes... nearly 2/3 that of Kim possible...and more than half as less than the FOP and much to know three times less than SBSP...however both the FOP and SBSP have something in common...both shows are comedic rather than actiony like Rugrats which is the third in the list of most episodes made in Nick...Kim Possible was a Actiony show and it was 12 episodes shy of 100 (88 if we count the Lilo and Stitch ''Rufus'' episode) but it may also seem that even thoug some of us loved DP the show many other disliked and may have lost ratings just like you said about the FOX example...the Simpsons have 504 episodes made and it may surpass the Dragonball series acumulative together which can bring up to 510 episodes and it is the only cartoon to made it to 500 eppis

But with the success of the many nick tween series i doubt they return DP for a 4th season...in fact KP is more closer to be renew than DP..but in both cases they are also doubtful in returning because of the sucess of both tv channels with their shows...nowadays kids would prefer Phineas and Ferb rather than Kim Possible but we all have to remember that P&F are a succesor animated series to Kim possible...it is so funny how Phineas and ferb which this month turns 5 years since the debut pilot episode

but in final all we have to see is our dreams (and for many more) to come true and see KP and DP in renew seasons BOO-YAH!!!

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-24 15:49:04 +0000 UTC]

Well, one thing I've thought Butch Hartman should do is the same thing Joss Whedon did with Buffy (and to a lesser extent, what Greg Weisman tried to do with Gargoyles, although in my mind, he wasn't nearly as successful), and that's continue DP in comic book form. I think it would totally play. But in the meantime, you can always look at my fics and see how I think the KP and DP series would carry on. I'd hate to be guilty of sounding arrogant for saying this, but personally, I think my DP series has been going in a lot of directions that Hartman, himself, would go, given the chance.

Personally, though, I have to say, I'm really not that big a fan of Phineas and Ferb. I mean, I'll admit it, they have extracted an ASTONISHING amount of material from the one-dimensional concept the show is built on. But in my mind, Disney's BEST animated show is a tie between Kim Possible and Gargoyles. I call it a tie because comparing KP to Gargoyles is a complete "apples to oranges" argument (Gargoyles being total drama whereas KP is primarily a comedy).

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-26 01:49:37 +0000 UTC]

it is so true they sould make a continuation of DP in comic books...i the other day saw an episode of Danny Phantom...again so sad it finished...to me it was like it was yesterday it finish

You know my sister heate P&F...she says that the topic is always the same...much like a Tom and Jerry in which Jerry always win and Tom about 3 times he wins...well is always Mom when she's about to find out what the boys are up to the invention always dissapears and for the most part it always have to do with Dr Doofermirtsh inator...however if she finds out then the whole summer plot of the boys will be ruin and we always have to get use to see Poor Candace Losing...is like John Cena when will he turn heel jejeje

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-26 03:50:52 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think the best shows should ALWAYS be that way. It should feel like they just ended yesterday. And people should want to keep the series going through fanfics and pics, like we all do here.^_^

Well, with Tom & Jerry, Tom always brings the trouble on himself. It's not like Itchy and Scratchy on the Simpsons, for example, where Itchy goes after Scratchy for absolutely no reason whatsoever. But I get what you're saying. Like I said, they have squeezed an ASTONISHING amount out of that show. But it's all still based on a fairly one-dimensional concept. There's never going to be any real depth to it.

As for your comment about John Cena turning heel, though, yeah, that's never going to happen. WWE's too invested in trying to turn him into the next Hulk Hogan. That's why they've been giving him all these insurmountable challenges, lo these many months, so they can turn all the fans who didn't like him before (remember how it used to be 50/50, the people who would cheer and boo him...although frankly, I think the reason a lot of fans really booed him was just so they could be part of the controversy). And it's worked. You see how it is when he hits the ring now? The boos are virtually non-existent.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-27 00:28:17 +0000 UTC]

that's so true...let's not forget the roadrunner and the coyote...although the tom factor you said gores so true with the coyote as well

i thnik you're right...many people say the same thing...i think WWE if turning Juhn Cena hell will reduce their earnings and seeing him as a fan favourite and hero for the young ones increases the earnings to WWE...and yeah i've been in wonder of the 50/50 cheeer and booes...but in my opinion i think is more like a 75/25 cheer/boo...mostly the guys boo him and the kids and girls cheer for him...but someday he'll turn heel...remember that Hulk hogan turn heel when he was in NWO about 10 years ago when he fought The Rock...but i may say he was more of an anti-hero since Kevin Nash and Scott Hall were the more villainy typo in that group stable...the Rock was in sometime heel and even Stone cold and Undertaker...so maybe just maybe Jonhnny boy may turn heel but briefly so he and the WWE can make the fans who wished to see him bad come true..i'm one of them jejeje

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-27 06:50:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, it's true that Cena is WWE's biggest earner right now. But then, you have to look at all the stuff he does OUTSIDE the ring as well, like the Make-A-Wish Foundation and all that. Champion or no Champion, Cena is WWE's public face and mainstream ambassador for pro wrestling itself in a lot of ways. So if he turned heel, it would close a lot of doors, not just the financial ones.

Now, as for guys like Austin, 'Taker and The Rock, yeah, all three of them are examples of guys who really hit their stride as Heels and then ended up becoming popular in spite of themselves, because the fans just became so inexplicably drawn to them. Granted, they all made Heel turns later, which they could do because they'd done it before.

Although to me, Austin's never really made much sense...it just felt like they were trying to shoehorn him into a role that just wasn't a very good fit from the start. Rock and 'Taker's turns were a little more believable. Like when the Rock turned Heel for his Wrestlemania match with Hulk Hogan. Ignoring the fact that Hogan's been beloved for decades, this was also at a time when The Rock was bouncing back and forth between WWE and movies and wasn't really giving either one his full commitment. And because of that, the fans had lost patience with him. I mean, how many times can you sing "Hail the Conquering Hero" for a guy who's only going to be around for three months and then, disappear for six? Rock recognized that the fans were swinging that way and so that's the direction he went with it.

Cena's case, however, is rather unique. With the mixed reactions he was getting from the crowds, it would have been easy for him to turn heel years ago. It would have been the easy thing to do, the TRADITIONAL thing to do. But Cena turned that tradition on its head by NOT succumbing to that pressure and instead, staying the course he set for himself, even going so far as to WELCOME people to boo him (And again, I stand by what I said - I really think the reason a lot of people booed him was just so they could be a part of that controversy). And to be perfectly honest, I actually admire him for that. It's so rare in pro wrestling these days to see someone ACTUALLY do something different or unexpected (do you realize how few times something has happened that I DIDN'T see coming a mile away?). So for me, Cena's outright refusal to do what's been done before was actually quite refreshing. I think some other fans started to feel that to, and that's when the tide slowly began to shift. Then of course, WWE's been jump-starting the process further by putting him up against guys like Brock Lesnar and the Big Show in order to turn most of the remaining holdouts. And really, it's worked. It's an absolute madhouse whenever he comes out now.

As for an anti-hero, like what you said Hogan became back then, I'm not sure. I actually think an anti-hero is what they're trying to turn CM Punk into right now. I mean, I know they've got him making some unpopular moves right now, but I don't think they can really turn him full heel at this point. Because the truth is, his message is getting through. Fans are recognizing that he's actually making some pretty good points.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-28 10:33:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah never imagine that CM Punk is actually an Anti-hero right now...he's cheer and booed at the same time...ad you're right Hulk Hogan was more in favour to his people than Scott Hall or Kevin Nash back when he join NWO...and the Rock did get some boos because he backed on his fans to pursue film making...but the most grand reason some people may dislike him is because other wrestlers like Stone Cold and Triple H and as well as John Cena made films and work in the WWE at the same time...the Rock prefer to abandon the company for nearly 7 years since 2005 until his return in WM 27 back in 2011 as a Host

and as the John Cena case...i may say that him turning heel will overturn the company and the WWE universe...like you said the popularity will downfall but not as a serious threat for the company...also if we go way back to his rookie year...he turn somewhat kinda heel trying to fit in with the WWE universe by posing himself as a rapper and insulting to win the crowd...after that gimmick he turn into a marine type persona as the one we see today (2006-present)...i remember back in wrestlemania 20 when he wrestle the Big Show for the US title he wasn't as much fan favourite as today but cheered as a normal type (much like today's Brodus Clay) since in that time Big Show was heel

but for now we all have to see what the WWE script has to install in the near future...i mean sometimes we may say that wrestle is gonna turn heel but in fact is the other one who we didn't imagine will turn heel (or face if is the other way around)...example is R-truth and Chris Jericho who frequently turn their heel/face personas around as well as Triple H in his prime when he used to turn good and bad very frequently

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-28 12:09:40 +0000 UTC]

Well, it's true that if Cena turned heel, it wouldn't completely annihilate WWE, but it would be a notable step backward. As for CM Punk, I'm really not sure WHAT they're trying to do with him. To me, it feels like the Austin heel turn all over again, where they're trying to shoehorn him into a role that just isn't a very good fit.

As for some of the others you mentioned, well, R-Truth has often been criticized for just doing whatever, whenever and not being very focused, career-wise. So if he turned heel again, it certainly wouldn't surprise me. As for Jericho, I don't know. I mean, he's goes heel more often than not, but it always ends up with him just giving us the same old act in a different package. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing him actually do something different for a change. While he still has some good years left in the business, I think it's getting to that point where he might want to start giving some thought as to what his legacy is going to be (I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing him get at least a couple more good title reigns under his belt). And even though he's publicly stated that he always felt he did his job better as a heel, I think Triple-H is kind of in that point right now, himself. While he's still far from a geriatric, I think it's reached the point with him where he's starting to think about what all he's going to be remembered for when he ultimately retires.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-30 01:48:32 +0000 UTC]

well for one Triple H for me is semi-retired...i mean hes 42 years old if im not mistaken and Shawn Michales 44...a good frind here in Ecuador said that is always good to give the options of young wrestlers (younger generations) to become the new face of WWE...i mean if some are past the 40 year mark is very good that they wrestle not as much as the more younger ones

i have also noticed that many wrestlers that are in the big one are nearly or pass the 30 year mark...to me i always marked the 25-30 year mark the 5 year mark where a wrestler is at his prime and in good physical fighter...John Cena is 35 years old but made his debut at age 25 and the Miz is 31 and made his debut at the same age as cena...to me the youngest wrestle ever step foot in a WWE ring is Kenny of the defunt Spirit Squad (which one remaining member of that group stable still wrestling in WWE Dolph Ziggler aka Nicky) and Kelly Kelly both at age 19...but of the two only Kelly Kelly has made it to the top...the Hardy Bozy and the Duzley Boyz were very young when they made their debuts as well as Zach Ryder and many other that their names escape me

and as for the CM Punk gimmick...is true he does remind me of SCSA...Austin was muck of a real-deal person rather than a parasitic fan favourite...for example Face wrestlers have to listen to what the crowd wants them to do while the heels disrespects them and dont listen to the crowd...CM Punk is 50/50 face and heel since there are many fans who like the persona of Punk as well as myself and support him...the ones who boo him are really the ones who like the babyface or just don't like Punk at all...and yep R-truth is not as noticeable than the Miz for example...if he turns heel not many will notice or pay any attention though i do i do like his lil jimmy thing...another Wrestler i forgot to mention that has skyrocked the fame in little time is Daniel Bryan...he was part of Nexus and WWE released him for his cunduct and re-sign him and as that pint forward he has reached to fame much like Jecicho...and now with his famous catchphrase Yes Yes Yes...all the fans taunt him bu repeating what he says...although in the past weeks he has changed to "No" to not similize him with the fans much to what a tyupical Heel will do

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-08-30 14:12:57 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, a lot of the older guys are kind of semi-retired now (which is kind of the point of the whole COO role Triple-H is sporting). Undertaker, however, I think we can pretty much write off as retired at this point. I'll be honest, if he comes back for another Wrestlemania, I will be VERY much surprised. Because the way they were playing up his Wrestlemania HiaC with Triple-H, there was a very strong implication there that it was going to be 'Taker's last match. And while nothing was really said out loud, I kind of came to a conclusion several years ago about Undertaker. I basically realized that when he retired, it wasn't going to be like what we've seen before. There wasn't going to be a 20-minute farewell presentation at the end of Raw. There wasn't going to be a parade of teary-eyed Superstars waving goodbye as he took that long walk up the ramp one last time. The simple truth is, I realized that when Undertaker left WWE, he would just be GONE. And the only time anyone was ever going to see him again was at his induction into the Hall of Fame. Now, 'Taker already kind of threw a monkey wrench into my prediction there when he made an appearance on the 1000th episode of Raw. But you can hardly blame him for that one, really, because let's face it. EVERYONE showed up for that.

Well, all these guys got their start from somewhere. You mentioned Daniel Bryan, well, like CM Punk, he made his bones in the small indie promotion known as Ring of Honor. And like Punk, Bryan is also a former World Champion of that organization. As for where he's going right now, I'm not really sure. That whole "YES! YES! YES!" thing was initially intended simply to torment Micheal Cole, who, as we all know, had been verbally razzing Bryan for weeks before he got the World Title from Mark Henry. Unfortunately, it ended up falling short of it's intended goal with the fans, who merely found this antic annoying. So they started doing it merely to tease Bryan. And now it's evolved to the point we're at now. Although I'm not sure where this is going to leave Bryan. I'm wondering if he's going to end up falling out of the World Title hunts and fall back into the mid-card range for a while.

As for Punk, again, I'm not sure what they're trying to do with him at the moment. I just hope this feud they've got him in with Jerry Lawler will burn itself out soon. I mean, no disrespect at all to Lawler, but this really isn't getting Punk anywhere right now. At this point, I think the main question on everyone's mind right now is, can Punk hold onto the title until (or if he DOES lose it, can he get it back before) the Royal Rumble so he can face the Rock? Personally, I find myself hoping that the answer to either question is yes. As much as I'm sure a lot of fans would like to see John Cena make up for that little Wrestlemania snafu, I think a match between the Rock and Punk would be every bit as well received. While they obviously wouldn't have a whole year to build up to it, I think the back-and-forth you'd get between the Rock and Punk would easily be equal to anything Rock and Cena did. And besides, the simple truth is, Cena just doesn't NEED another title reign right now. He's in a perfectly good place right where he is.

You mentioned the Miz as well. Actually, I don't have a lot of negative things to say about Miz right now. While he's still not a fan-favorite, he seems to have done a complete 180 in his approach to his career. Whereas before, he was talking a good game and not really doing anything to back it up, nowadays, he seems to be talking very little and, instead, letting his performance in the ring speak for him. I guess time will tell if he can use this new method as a jumping-off point to get back into the World Title hunt. If he does, we might see a much more respectable title reign out of him the next time around (even if it doesn't turn out to be a very well-LIKED one).

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-08-31 23:29:06 +0000 UTC]

well is true that the Undertaker is at most 95% retired...i mean hes nearly appraching the 50 year mark and at that point of age most wrestlers at either retires completely or semi retired like the cases of Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair,Kevin Nash,Booker T and many more...they wrestle sometimes but not occasionaly liek the younger generations...i mean even McMahon at age 60 step foot in a WWE ring and even Ric Flair at 62 still steps in the Ring (in TNA) although he was fired 3 months ago from the Orlando,Florida-based wrestling company...don't forget that Ric Flair was one of the founding members of one of the greatest group stable the 4 horsemen in which some of its past members include Arn Andersonwho to me is 95 % retired, the late Chris Benoit, Mr Perfect, Dean Malenko and even Sting

well like you just said Daniel Bryan is mostly mocked by the public beacuse of his kakiness and self-centred ego...i mean shouting Yes multiple times for winning his 1st title made at first the crowd annoed but they payback their annoyance from DB by returning his Yes chants to simply mock him and get him angry...so angry enough that he changed his gimmick no NO to not coincide with the public and make his storyline a far more crazy one...i mean is true both Bryan and Kane are very crezy minded in their storylines and even make them partners in a set up therapy session...to me both these wrestlers are the next rivals since to me one crazy lunatic must stand tall bewteen them jejej

well in the CM Punk case...making him ravalring with the king is not so big since Lawler is semi-retired and not as famed as Cena...but who knows his storyline may have to make him interact with the veteran...he said that he has hold the WWE title for nearly 300 days...well Cena backfired him 2 weeks ago by saying he has hold it for 380 days which bi far is nearly 13 months of 1 year two weeks...i think for the msot part Punk is trying to remid the wwe universe that he will surpass cena's range of 13 months by trying to hond on to the title by newyears which by there he will surpass Cena's nearly 13 month range in title...but if he loses in Night of Champions...who knows what will Punks words will be the upcoming night in Raw and for damaging his image the NOC is in Boston,Mass. whee Cena's from and the ONLY place Cena has nearly all the fans support him (at far 90%)...and for who's facing the Rock in January is a mystery..i mean who knows at final hour a new competitor comes in way of Punk and Cena and goes on to face Rocky in thr Royal Rumble since both Punk and Cena were moe concentrated towards each other than to the rest of the WWE superstars

as for the Miz...my sister said once many of the superstars ascend to fame and then descend to not so famed and then return to fame...a case like that happend to Kurt Angle in which he was not famous at first then reached the stars and then backdown to somewaht noticeable and then to famed...also Alberto del Rio has passed through this phase...a year ago he was so famous and now hes not that famous like before as well as the Big Show...but i also think that WWE has so many rosters to put them on a scripted fight that they had to extend Raw to 3 hours to give away chances to more wrestlers to be onset...Smackdown may be 3 hours but who knows maybe when it reaches 1.000 episodes(as of now 680 episodes has been sintonize)

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-01 19:46:05 +0000 UTC]

Well, with regards to some guys like Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan, I can't help but find myself going back to an old quote Scott Steiner made quite a few years ago..."If I'm still wrestling at 50 or 60 and looking like hell, just shoot me, 'cause that'll mean I'm senile, anyway." But then then I look back at the time when Eddie Guerrero died, and they rang the bell for him 10 times at the beginning of Raw. I remember one of the cameras focusing on Ric and the look on his face really said it all. At this point, so many other well-known wrestlers were already gone..."Mr. Perfect" Kurt Hennig, Rick Rude...And you could just tell by the expression on Flair's face that all he was thinking was, "How is it all these young guys are gone...and I'M still here?"

As for 'Taker, I'd really prefer seeing him retired at this point. Go out with a bang, the exact same way he came in at the Survivor Series, all those years ago. If he shows up for another 'Mania, like I said, I'll be very surprised. I also think I'll be a little disappointed as well.

Well, again, Daniel Bryan's Yes shtick was all about rallying support behind him against Micheal Cole's constant badgering. But, like I said, it quickly became more irritating than favorable. And yeah, now he's in this whole therapy thing now. I guess we'll see what becomes of that. Just like I guess we'll see what becomes of Punk in the next little while.

Well, your sister kind of has a point about the whole rising and falling thing. After all, not everyone can stay in the top tier forever. Other hard-working superstars deserve their shot, too. That's part of the reason I'm saying that Cena doesn't really need another title reign right now. But as for what you said about Kurt Angle, I actually picked up Pro Wrestling Illustrated's "Report Cards of the Stars" issue last year. I find their evaluations to be quite accurate, much like what they wrote about Kurt Angle's Overall Value in that issue...

"Angle is a unique case. At any moment, he can be inserted into the main-event picture and instantly become a credible World Champion and PPV draw. He can also excel on the mid-card level. He can thrive as a fan favorite or a heel. He is equally adept at comedy as he is at intensity. In short, Angle can do just about anything. He is an invaluable resource that any promotion would be proud to have on its roster...Angle is still a fantastic wrestler, but he is a step slower than he was five years ago. Still, even at 75 percent, Angle would be better than 95 percent of most active wrestlers..."

And ultimately, that's really what the business needs, all things considered, superstars that can take that roller coaster ride up and down and excel, no matter which way they're going.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-02 06:21:34 +0000 UTC]

well is tur i think Flair did had that face when he has been upon hearing the deaths of many younger wrestlers some even young enough to be his own son much like Eddie Guerrero...but lets all remember that most of these wrestlers that passed away had some to do with durg substance to enhance their stamina in the ring and even awaken their strength...i mean CM Punk once said that they have a very busy schedule daily that the superstars have bare enough time to rest or to pass their personal life away from the ring and script...most like to why many of these wrestlers have to do some thing with the drugs...the streess of many things to do may be another reason for enhancing these drugs

well as for the Taker story...lets say that he's only concentrated in ONLY wreslting in a Wrestlemania since he's more into the famous WM streak than for a title...i mean he has won every title in the business but now wants to raise up the streak to many more wins and stay undefeated...many wrestlers have almost make the dead man lose but at final moment the tables turn and Under Taker wins...but as of now i doubn he'll ever return to another wrestlemania...i mean his plan was to make it to the 20 win mark and thats it...i remember that his win streak in WM didint get to famed until WM 18 where many fans posted up his win streak and from that point on the WWE started to put up the famous streak...between 2002 and 2006 he will wrestle in a daily basis but after 2007 he etsarted to settle down and wrestle sometimes and from 2010 til now he only wrestle in a Wrestlemania event thats it...i mean hey taker you made it to 20 no other wrestle will make it to that historic mark...just retired and stay home...we'll remember you all the time just that is seems very negative effect to see him once a year

and so true about Kurt Angle...i mean he's 43 years old and he's still fighting like he's in his late 20's or early 30's the age where any wrestle will reach to his/her height and fame...and about Scott Steiner is true he's past the 50 year mark and still wrestles

hey i have many question to why they released A.W. the manager of Darren Young and Titus O'neal...they said that he said something offensive and beyond the limit...i for one the thing i dislike about wreslting that goes to WWE and TNA is that they don't advise the fans in the release of a wrestler...i mean they have to say something of at least put a ending storyline to the picture...seeing a wrestler realeased is like reading a book without finishing it...is a unfinished book like i say jeje

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