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Description Allow me to humbly present the latest picture in what will continue to be an increasing gallery. This image is actually kind of a promotional picture for my KP fanfic, "The More Things Change..." (check out my Profile here - [link] - for all of my stories). Obviously, some of the players you'll recognize and others you won't. You'll have to read the story to...well...get the full story.

(Just as a little hint, though, the guy dressed in black with the cane is named Maximillion. And no, Shego doesn't like him very much. You'll have to read the story to find out why.)

Frankly, I didn't envision that this pic would end up being so crowded. Every character I wanted to add is in here, but I was hoping for more open space (kind of have everything blending together like on a Disney movie poster). Unfortunately, as the pencil work wore on, it just didn't work out that way. Still, when all was said and done, I think it came out half decent and I hope you all enjoy it. As always, any and all comments are appreciated.
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TuxedAaron In reply to ??? [2012-09-03 03:10:15 +0000 UTC]

Well, as for wrestlers and drugs...I kinda won't get into that. That's an unfortunate truth to the business, sadly. As for some of these guys like Kurt Hennig and Rick Rude, they weren't actually active wrestlers around the times they died, which suggests to me that they'd suffered some injury we didn't know about that prevented them from performing.

Speaking of not knowing, yeah, it's true that a lot of times WWE and TNA won't announce when they've fired or suspended a member of their talent. And I can kind of understand why, because there are some things you wouldn't want to get out because it could hurt your public image, and thus, hurt your business (over the last few years, WWE has been trying to curtail the edginess of the 90s' "Attitude" era and have been trying to get back into being a more "family-friendly" promotion). Rob Van Dam is one example. After all, it wouldn't have been great for WWE at the time to reveal that the reason Van Dam's World Title reign was cut short was because the company suspended him for getting busted by the police, smoking pot with Sabu after a live event. And even when he came back, WWE never forgot, which I suspect is a big part of the reason he never got back on his feet after that. Rey Mysterio is kind of in the same boat right now, as he's just come off a 60-day suspension of his own (for what reasons, were never actually revealed). Now, depending on the seriousness of what he allegedly did, it's possible WWE might forgive him. But at the present time, I think it might be a while before we see him hold any kind of title.

As for certain storylines, well, the truth has always had a thing for interfering with fiction, especially in pro wrestling. Take that one storyline a few years back where Vince McMahon was supposed to have been allegedly killed by a car bomb. Now the plot, obviously, was that they were going to spend weeks trying to figure out who did it until Vince inevitably returned, revealing that he had not, in fact, been killed at all (and, most likely, even providing damning evidence to reveal the TRUE culprit). But that all got upended by the whole Chris Benoit Murder/Suicide thing, so Vince kind of had to come out of hiding to address it. And that put a stop to that.

As for Undertaker, well, it's true that WWE didn't publicly acknowledge the streak until Randy Orton called attention to it that one year. But actually, the streak had been noticed years before when some of the guys at the independent wrestling magazines like Pro Wrestling Illustrated did some checking and realized, "Huh...you know, Taker's actually never lost a Wrestlemania match. Has anyone else noticed this before?!". Now, as for my feelings on it, for a couple of years after it was publicly acknowledged, my thought was, let him keep the streak. After all, he'd never really been given the chance to hold onto the World Title. But then, not long after that, WWE actually gave him a couple of really good title reigns, so I started thinking, he didn't really need the streak anymore. Although, taking into consideration that he was getting on in years, I also realized if he actually lost it, it would be kind of a bittersweet thing, because that would mean that it would most likely be the Undertaker's last match. But the streak remained alive, getting to a point where he really couldn't lose it anymore, because it had gotten too big. It had become such a monumental achievement, the goal of ending it had become so insurmountable, that really, there wasn't a single person on the entire WWE roster who was actually WORTHY of pulling it off. Triple H was MAYBE the last one left who even came close. But with this 20-0 thing, and the fact that he had one kickass HiaC match (not to mention that, like I said, all the hints were in the months leading up to it that this WOULD in fact, be 'Taker's last match), that was just the perfect note for Undertaker to go out on. At this point, it would be a shame to see him come back and/or even, God forbid, drop the streak because he went to the well one too many times. That's not how anyone wants to remember him.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-03 22:26:59 +0000 UTC]

Is true Mr Perfect wasn't wrestling at the time he passed away as well as Rick Rude...and who cannot forget the tragic death of Owen Hart the brother of Bret Hart...he was doing his superman gimick and the cable ropes that sustained him to lower him to the ring broke and fell i may say nearly 15 meters from the air...now thats very high fall...he was by far a wrestler that if he was still alive would've been one of the faces of WWF...or WWE as it is called today since he's the same age as Shawn Michals

hey i never knew RVD was suspended for ding a negative act and strip him of the title...i think that might've happend when i was in hiatus back in 2003...but yeah WWE suspends the wrestlers without notices and they prefer not to say it in public for the sake of not embarrasing the wrestler and his public image...although it will always be posted in wiki and they are many fans who see wiki page very often...for the most par many fans hwn they don't see a wrestler for a long time they presume he's either suspended fired or in the minors that is FCW or OVW...an example of a wrestle that went to the minor is Alex Riley...he was briefly in WWE top zone but was relegated to FCW...the prime time players also have had the same problem...as well as AJ and Aksana and Mcguilicuty...i think WWE relegates some rookie wrestlers simply beacuse the company dosen't see him/her ready yetfor the big time on top and you know that the majors is far more difficult to handle than FCW...example is road trip throughout the country...in FCW is only in Florida and in OVW is in Ohio but in the top WWE is anywhere in the country and the scripts are much harder and must get in character very fast...oh yeah don't forget you have to be in 3 live events and one televised show (either raw or smackdown)...and as well as the world tours to Australia,UK,Ireland, Mexico,Latin America (last february WWE raw roster were in my country),China and many more countries

oh yeah thats true years ago Vince Mc Mahon tried to pass by by (kayfabe) killing himself therefore deleting his storyline in wrestling...now that fake killing not kill Vince but his wrestling carrer...i mean he can't wrestle anymore and therefore his storyline is de facto complete...hes 67 years old and i may not think he's capable to be in a WWE ring...he may say he can but his body will say no and may actually be real-life injured...for the most part Mcmahon has to be out of the picture and act as the CEO of the company and ONLY come to the events in special occasions like the 1.000 episode of Raw...he had to be there and in Wrestlemania..he has to be at least seen since it is the biggest ppv of the year...i also recall hearing him winning a Royal Rumble match much years ago

and as for the Taker...is true if he losses a match in Wrestlemania he will there announce his retirement...i mean any wrestler who wants to retire will tell thefans in the ring like Ric Flair,Edge and Shawn Michaels did...and as of now Undertaker hasn't done that thus yet and in my case may be in another wrestlemania...but with making to a bog #20 win mark..i think he will dearly lose the next one but against a worthy opponent and not a weak wrestler liek Ryder or Ziggler that are in much to Intercontinental maximum...i mean Ziggler will be WWE champion if he cashes his Money in the Bank...but will have the same story as The Miz...both are at best typical Intercontinental prototypes and not World Heavywight material...is like in TNA theres the world heavyweight chanpion the x division champion in whici is very similar to the intercontinental champion...the tag team champions in which can se won by any typo of wrestler and the knockouts champion this is the women's champion title...but TNA and WWE differenate in which a title earning in TNA is much more difficult than in WWE...mostly beacuse of the extreme rules and much realistic effects (though it is still fake in some aspects)...i for the most part speaking of TNA wish someday to see AJ Styles, Sting Samoa Joe or Abyss in WWE someday...but i doubt it since they are like the ambassadors of TNA and can't go to WWE because of contract clauses...it is sais that if an ex TNA Wrestler goes to WWE or viceversa...he or she cannot return to the first company they were in the first place...but some wrestlers have found a loop hole into this clause like Gail Kim, Kevin Nash, Booker T and even Awesome Kong...hey what ever happend to her i do wanted to see her dominate in the WWE Business jeje

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-05 06:06:23 +0000 UTC]

Well, it's like I said with 'Taker. My theory is that when he leaves WWE, it won't be a big public to-do like what we've seen before. When he walks out that door, he'll just be gone. And the only time anyone is ever going to see him again is at his Hall of Fame Induction. As storied as Undertaker's career has been, I think that would be the most fitting way to end it. Let him walk out as mysteriously as he walked in.

AS for Vince McMahon, well, again, it's true that he doesn't really need to be in the spotlight anymore. It's kind of like Denis Leary said in praise of his stunt people during that one interview for Amazing Spider-Man..."I have no problem sitting behind the monitors and going, 'Man, I am going to look SO good when this gets cut together'. But I am WAY past that age where I want to be the guy jumping out of the helicopter myself". But having said that, it's become fairly obvious that one thing Shane and Stephanie never inherited from him is his P.T. Barnum-like charisma in front of the camera and the fans. That's why they spend most of their time behind the scenes as well, while at the same time, Triple-H was given the role as the public face of WWE's corporate structure.

As for TNA's guys, well, I'll be honest, I don't really watch TNA. I'll skim past it on occasion, but really, it just feels like WCW all over again. Not that TNA is really looking to challenge WWE's throne, mind you. I mean, come on, Jeff Jarrett is going to take down Vince McMahon? Not bloody likely! If Vince had ever once perceived TNA as a genuine threat, he would have shut them down YEARS ago. But I think he sees an advantage in there being more than one company out there. In the years after WWE vanquished WCW, I think Vince quickly learned that being the only game in town isn't always a good thing. There are just too many athletes out there wanting to make a name for him to take care of on his own. After all, there's only, what, six titles in WWE at any given time (and the Divas title is just a little bit exclusive)? Sometimes a little competition can be healthy, let another organization help shoulder the load and take on those guys that Vince can't give golden opportunities to right away. I think TNA recognizes these facts as well, which could be the reason why they stopped trying to air Impact on Monday nights and went back to Thursdays. Both organizations kind of just ignore each other now, for the most part.

Now, do some TNA guys maybe want to bit the bullet with that contract clause and come over to WWE? Well, Abyss already might. I don't claim any inside information, but the fact that he hasn't really been all that present in TNA of late makes me wonder (even though he may be around and I just haven't seen it because I hardly watch it). I do kind of wonder if Samoa Joe should consider it as well. There was a time when TNA literally wouldn't have survived without him, but now he's just kinda been swept under the rug. Not exactly feeling the love there. AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels I wouldn't mind seeing, but Daniels seems to be flip-flopping between TNA and Ring of Honor these days and Styles might feel he's in a cushy enough TNA spot to not want to risk rolling the dice. Sting, I know for a fact, DEFINITELY wouldn't. Not that TNA has all that much use for Sting these days, but WWE has made numerous outreaches to him over the years to come and sign up. And Sting has always turned them down, for the simple reason that he just doesn't want to work with Vince McMahon. Some analysts have speculated that he might change his mind when Vince finally retires and Shane and Stephanie are running the business, but by then, it may be too late.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-05 23:08:09 +0000 UTC]

i'm with you there...Taker will return as a surprise inductee to the HoF...i mean he will make the WWE Universe try to forget about him and then hwen he reappears the wwe fans will say "ohhh he's still alive...oh cool how we missed you taker"...we also have to remember that Undertaker and Kane are the Only wrestlers which the trademark move that became famous inside and outside the ring and that is the Chokeslam and Tombstone Piledriver...for me these moves are super effective and astonishing...as for Big Show's Chokeslam as well...but all these 3 icons are past 40 and soon to be out of the ring...to me there hes to be a succesor younger wrestle who can at least keep the chokeslam technique alive...mike Swagger kept the Ankle Lock alive even though the creator is still wrestling in TNA (Kurt Angle)

yeah is true Mcmahon will still be known as the head master of WWF/E and to me when he's in an age he can't no longer hold the position he will pass it on to Shane at most part since he's his son and the Mcmahons have held the creation since the grandfather of Vince created it...he passed it on to his son (Vince's dad)...and then to Vince himself...at 67 his ternure in holding the business is fading away more because of his grand age...but if we can recap Shane no longer wokrs for the company and to me prefers not to be the succesor head of the business...now Stephanie is still in the company and looks very forward to become the new Chairman (Chairwoman in this case)...to me it is not awkward but rather good since she's 35 and still in her prime and can be in the business for 40 years more...but all those opinios wil have to be waited in a further future...for now the Vince has strength enough...but the scary par t is that if Vince leaves and his son/daughter screws up and makes the company lose ratings i mean now there will be a huge problem for the Mcmahon clan...i for one wish Vince really teaches very well Stephanie and/or Shane the true in how make prosper the wrestling industry...take for example the mini war with TNA in which will be better...Shane or Stephanie would've not handle this overpower in between two different companies...this is all corparative things

well as said above...this is WCW-WWF all over again and the victor will be the true king of Wrestling industries...is Jeff jarrett vs Vince Mcmahon..ot me TNA is raising points but still has alot to learn and do to truely reach the top...to me TNA is in the hips of WWE and at a slow pace it will reach the head and solely will become a war just like it happend back in 2001 when WCW lost to WWE..is lie a video game...you have to pass thgough different levels and each level is and gets harder...and when it reaches the final level is there where we see who ecomes the winner and the loser...to me if TNA loses terrain it will become absorb to WWE...that's one objective TNA is trying to dogde

and i think youre right Sting dose't want to join WWE with Vince as ehad master...i think he hea notice a huge difference in between them...but then again if Vince steps down it will truely be too late for Sting since hes past the 50 year mark...and he wont be turely the same as he was much younger...and as for the others you mentioned...i think they might see better themselves in TNA than in WWE...since in TNA the company pays attention to them while WWE donsent to much and will probably lower them down enough to be seen once a month or to battle a wrestle who in scripture is a new big thing coming much like Ryback and BrodusClay are as of now in which they both battle wrestlers who come very barely onscreen...i think that may be a reason for some TNA wrestlers who reject going to WWE...example is Gail Kim...in TNA she was on the top...but when she came to WWE she was even lower than Kelly Kelly :/

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-06 14:46:50 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think when 'Taker gets inducted into the HoF, you're going to hear a lot of fans chanting, "ONE MORE MATCH!" just like they did with Hogan. It won't happen, but you'll hear them call for it.

As for TNA/WWE, again, I get the sense that there's kind of a tentative truce there. I don't think one is going to really be looking to conquer the other. TNA isn't going to be looking to conquer WWE because...well, let's face it, they CAN'T. And WWE, I don't think is going to be looking to conquer TNA because Vince McMahon has been there and he's done that with the whole WCW thing and he's learned pretty quickly that being the only game in town isn't all it's cracked up to be. I mean, let's face it, WWE only has six titles in play at any given moment and you just can't give everyone equal billing. So sometimes you need other organizations to give opportunities to those hungry performers that you can't pay attention to right away. And it's true, several performers have gone on to make their fortune at TNA because WWE couldn't find the time for them. If WWE were to take TNA out, where does that leave all these people to go? Back to WWE where they never really got a shot in the first place? I think, deep down, Vince understands this reality and for that reason, he's kind of left TNA alone.

As for women's wrestling, it's true that WWE has taken a major step backward. They have a few genuine talents, but not enough to give the division a lot of merit. So I think you have a point when you say they retired the Women's Title for just that reason. Maybe when they've raised the level of performance, the title will see a resurgence, but not right now. It's true, we need to see more people come back like Trish Stratus and Beth Phoenix. Phoenix was actually applauded for staying the the developmental organizations longer than WWE really wanted her to, because she wanted to make absolutely certain that when she stepped onto the big stage, that she'd be ready for it. Chyna is another noteworthy name, but she had a lot of personal problems before she got into the business and the overnight sensation she became actually kind of made things worse for her, not better.

As for Gail Kim, well, she is a talent, but I've never really cared for her much. In my estimation, she's just never really lived up to her hype. When she first made her debut in WWE, there was all this backstage buzz about what a phenomenal high flyer she was...that she could do things in the ring that no one else but Rey Mysterio could do. But I've never really seen that in any of the matches I've seen her in. With each passing match, I kept waiting for her to just explode out there and show all this stuff that everyone said she could do. But I've never seen it. It always felt like she was holding herself back a step, as if she wasn't sure when the right time was to fully showcase her talents. I don't know, maybe you're seeing something new in TNA that I'm not, but I just never saw the Gail Kim that everyone said was out there.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-07 08:05:38 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah thats so true there...i think they said the same to another wrestler the name forsakes me...i Think it was Stone Cold, Ric Flair or Shawn Michals...i think it was the last one i mention

i agree with you there about the whole WWE/TNA wars...Mcmahon has marginalize the fact of annexing TNA simply beacuse he dosen't see that company as to be conquered...since WWE is at great currently and no need to hunger and eat another company's terrain...is true some wrestlers that didnt hit the spotlight in WWE can be a reason Vince dosen't put him/her up and thats because of not readyness...i mean if you're in the spotlight you have more work to handle in the business...for example Jon Cena is like the head of WWE...before him was The Rock and before him was Hulk Hogan...but JC has a very very busy schdule that he dosen't even have time to be with his family...might also be a reason he can't form one just yet...the life of a famed person is not as great as one thinks but the money is what blinds you to keep on doing it

and oh yeah retuning of the women legends would be so great...maybe they can teach the younger ones the true meaning of wrestling and not only slap on the face or blah blah blah or diva acting...if you want to wrestle lets go and no excuses

ir true maybe one being in WWE can intimidate one since it is a bigger company than TNA and some wrestlers can be low class in WWE and in TNA they're big stars...Kurt Angle can be one he's like the face of TNA while in WWE he was a low man and was famed for his you suck chants what made him emix the song to not hear that ugly chants to even changing his theme in TNA...but yes all this is business that one does and some can be personal reasons...i mean some wrestlers can know what is instore in the future of their carrers or of others since they chat and work together but chatting the business lifestyle out of the ring and to non WWE/TNA workers can really break up the reputation

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-11 08:40:01 +0000 UTC]

Sorry it's taken me a couple days to get back, but I've just been swamped with other messages.

Well, as far as comparing WWE to TNA, they do kind of put higher emphasis on different things. Like I said, WWE's Women's Division has seriously taken a step backward while TNA has gone out of their way to make theirs flourish. Hopefully, WWE will get some more talent along the lines of Trish Stratus and Beth Phoenix and we'll see the division come full circle again. I might have said the same thing about TNA having the superior Tag Team Division as well...a year ago. But then, Beer Money went and broke up and...well, that kind of put the kibosh on that.

As for Kurt Angle, I would hardly call him a low man when he was with WWE. After all, he bounces up and down the card easily as much with TNA as he did with them. But remember when I mentioned that PWI issue, when they outlined his Overall Value. Angle is one of those guys who can excel, no matter where on the card you put him. The main reason Angle left WWE for TNA was because he knew he wasn't in his prime anymore and he had several nagging injuries to consider. If he'd stayed with WWE, with all that working against him, he would have had MAYBE two years left in his career. But in TNA, with its VASTLY reduced schedule for him (Angle only works Impact and the Pay-Per-Views, not the Live Events), he's been able to stretch that out several times over. Granted, he'll still be retiring sooner than later, but at least he's been able to stay in the game a lot longer than he would have if he'd still tried to keep up with the hectic pace of WWE. Still, when Angle does eventually hang it up and leave TNA, I wouldn't be surprised if WWE calls him up to make a couple of appearances for them, even if it's for no other reason than just so they can then turn around and give him a PROPER induction into the Hall of Fame where he belongs. I think we can both agree he's earned it.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-11 20:29:56 +0000 UTC]

well as for the tag teams...it is very common to see at very least the team break up...always or fot the most part the one who attcks from behind is the one who turns heel...but in some ocassions that can be wrong...since some turn on their tag team since it can be tired of his chemistry and act of being...if the tag team are heel and the one who attacks from behind is in reality the one who turns face and the one attacked staying heel...in the other side two babyface taggers and one turning on his partner is automatically a heel...but sometimes the breakup of a team dosen't mean that the attacker will turn heel of face...but in reality is a sign that his contract is coming to an end and he/she has to culminate her storyline with a bang...lie a happy ever after or in this case a sadly ever after...i remembered when R-truth was attacked by Miz...he was suspended and when he returned he wa still heel he had to win the audience by inventing a gimmick of inventing a fake son-like imaginary friend called Lil Jimmy...at first it bacame funny but as the time progressed it has been marginalizing because of putting other wrestlers in the spotlight...another team broken up was Miz and Morrision...one would've thought Miz is the face one and Morrison the heel...but the case was wrong and it was Miz who stayed heel and Morrison face (both were heel at the time of the breakup)...in thw wrestling business a tag team would actually last at minimum a season together and then break up if they see their storylined not very pegged like the case were with Big Show/Kane who lasted 2 months...one tag team who lasted years were Crime Tyme, Hardy Boys,Dudley Boyz,Edge Christian and even DX...but all these teams have been broken up at sometime...the first one mentioned might've lasted more time since both were more in the minor section of the WWE than the big one like Raw or Smackdown...Nexus although their reign was rather long it made many modifications and it can become to have 3 segments afte rit was dissolutioned..to me the longest women stable tag team was the Beautiful People of TNA running from 2007 til may 2012 but like the Nexus this female tag stable was modified by adding different ladies or eliminating older ones...so at far the tag stable ran alive thanks to changing leaders and new recruits...that also happend to DX when the original member added X-Pac Road Dogg Billy Gunn since the original founding members were HHH,Shawn Michales Chyna and the late Rik Rude

hey speaking of HHH did you hear that he cut off his signature hair mane...kinda wierd but it was hhis desire wished

Is true in WWE he has to work more harder than in the lighter TNA..i mean besides the live RAW or Smackdown events...he also has to wrestle in three other live events and even in PPV...in TNA he has a lighter working envirnment although TNA also go to Live events...but the company is much more easier to work than WWE...and for much TNA can even raise up the veterans to wrestle and make them still be in their prime like the case of Hulk Hogan...many wrestlers like my favourite Stone Cold,Edge and many more had to retire for the many surgeries they had and because of their age their bones were not as strong as when they were below 40...Stone Cold had a problem in his knees that made him retire and edge the same thing...other wrestlers like the Rock prefer to be a hollywood star and quit wrestling or at least wrestle sometimes because of the same reasons many wrestlers retire...John Cena Rey Mysterio Chris Jericho Christian Mark Henry Big SHow Jeff hardy Triple H Shawn Michaels and many more all had to take some time off beacuse they had to undergo surgery to restore their dislocated bone beacuse of the many hits they receive when wrestling...is like may people say wrestling is fake...for the most part is fake in terms of scripture like kayfabing acts and some hits are rather kiddy hits than real hits but the throwng to the ring or outside mat and through tables can affect their bodies at much...so i may say is fake/real at much

and to the Kurt Angle case...he may return to WWE but like a inductee hal of famer...lie Ric Flair did this past april..even though he was contracted to TNA that tdidn't stop him to show up with the rest of the Four Horsemen crew and be inducted (well reinducted)...but of me i wish to see angle wrestle one more time with his old theme ald all chanting the famous You Suck chants a gimmick invented by Edge back in 2002 much like the What! saying invented by Stone Cold by saying that word to annoying heel wrestlers or at much to the mock of Vince Mcmahon

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-14 13:50:25 +0000 UTC]

Well, I suppose it's true that even the best tag teams can't stay together forever. Even when they're not made up of solely singles performers, thrown together by circumstance (which is usually the case these days), eventually, one or both will want to move on to capture single's glory. It's just that TNA, for a while at least, had a tag team division that was kind of a throwback to those glory days of WWE tag teams, when they were as much a part of the scene as any singles match. I remember fondly, back in the days of Demolition, the British Bulldogs, Strike Force and the Hart Foundation. But it seems that once Beer Money broke up, TNA's tag team division started to tank.

Well, you talk about all the real injuries wrestlers suffer even though people debunk wrestling as fake. Well, to anyone who says that, I direct them to Roger Ebert's review of the Mickey Rourke movie, "The Wrestler" This is part of what he said in his opening paragraph...

"Pro wrestling is a fake sport, right? Yes. But as an ACTIVITY, it's pretty real. I watch it on TV with fascination. It's scripted that the villain sneaks up on the hero, who pretends not to see him, and pushes him over the ropes and out of the ring. Fake. But when the hero hits the floor, how fake is that? 'Those guys learn how to fall,' people tell me. Want to sign up for the lessons?"

As for Angle, well, depending on how he gets inducted, we'll see what happens. I still think WWE will wait until he retires and then maybe ask him to make an appearance or two, just to set up the induction properly. I honestly think they'd look at that approach as the more professional way to do it. If they do it that way, though, I'm not so sure the fans will start up with the "You Suck!" chant during his entrance music. That's generally not how you treat one of the greats when you know they're on their way out. Oh, they might do it if Angle says or does something that would INVITE them to do it (like, for example, if he were to say during a promo to the fans that he even missed the "You Suck!" chant), but otherwise, I think they'd more than likely leave well enough alone.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-16 02:19:17 +0000 UTC]

i do coincide with you with the Beer Money tag team...that tag team formed just months before i started watching wrestling back in 2008 and went on to be together nearly 3 years after Robert Ruude betray his tag team partner and after that the Tag Teams in TNa are not as so great as before...ald like you said thr older generations of tag teams are so much better and have a good amount of chemistry....the now tag teams can be noticed that were formed by the company and not by their will...now that tanks

you know youre absolutely right on what Roger Ebert said in that interview...if you notice very clearly in the ring you can see that the Wrestlers know how to fall and take shots from their adversary...is the the irish chop...the chop is hitted in the middle of the chest and not where the heart is or the other side...also the aide turnbuckle throwing...when the wrestler falls towards the wrestler it really dosent hit the adversary much it makes him a space enough it feel a little impact but not a serious sitch...also the signature moves like the Pedigree or the Tombstone Piledriver dosen't really hit the adversary but the wrestler who's preforming the move hits it's knees to the ring and makes a bounce so that the fans may think is real in hitting the head of the other wrestler...but for the most part the real hits are fallong out of the ring and through a table...ans especially in TLC matches...that stipulation match may be one of the roughest matches there are in current WWE...don't forget the Hell in a Cell and Hardcore matches (or street matches as called nowadays) are other dangerous matches...i do remember the days when WWF had a hardcore champion and those wrestlers had to endure hard pains towards them and the other as well as to even wrestle outside the arena and in the streets and even at riverfronts...so bad that title had to be retired mostly because of its dangerousness the wrestler had instore

the truth of the blood in Wrestling is by fay a mistery since many wrestlers get hurt real bad and not bleed ot is it because the wrestlers know the spot where the wrestler will in fact bleed...chris jericho sometimes bleed in the mouth and Ric Flair in the forehead...but is it not know if is it real or fake :/

and oh yeah i do think WWE wants to wait til Angle retires so there they will induct him in the HOF...and as for the reintroduction...that is a doubt but i may say the fans will chher for him and will not say he sucks but rather "you're Cool" jeje...but some past inductees had receive boos like Pete Rose and the Junkyard Dog(+) who sent his daughter to represent him...but Angle is a legend between the two last mentioned persons

another change that can consider an upgrade or a relegation to a WWE superstar is their theme song...is like John Cena's theme is like a up hero theme and the rapping theme he had years ago represented him like a medium wrestler

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-18 11:34:19 +0000 UTC]

Well, again, like I said, tag teams were a completely different animal, back in the day. Nowadays, it's mostly made up of singles wrestlers who get thrown together by circumstance. But back in the day, it was made of of legitimate teams who were MEANT to be teams. Oh sure, singles wrestlers would do tag team matches on occasion. But it was usually only to settle feuds between multiple wrestlers that ended up running parallel to each other, not to actually get anywhere in the division. Take Hulk Hogan and "Macho Man" Randy Savage, for example. Whenever they teamed up in a match, they went by the team name of "The Mega Powers", mostly because they were two of the most popular superstars at the time. But they never had any aspirations of actually acquiring Tag Team titles, mostly because, like I said, tag teams and singles performers were generally kept separate. Basically, from the tag team perspective, the thinking was, "Hey, you guys are already rocking the singles scene. Play in YOUR back yard and leave OURS alone." That's one main reason why Hogan and Savage never really teamed together much. Still, because their team-ups were so popular, whenever they did, it was always an event.

Still, like we discussed, it's generally only a matter of time before before a genuine team will break up because one or both want to pursue singles glory. The problem is that in most cases, for every Bret Hart, Shawn Micheals or Bubba/Bully Ray, there's always a Jim Niedhart, Marty Jennety or D-Von. One may excel, but not always so with the partner, mostly because in was in the tag team spotlight that THAT individual ended up shining the brightest.

Another name that comes to mind is Rick Martel. For many years, he was a tag team performer, once as part of the Can-Am Connection, and then later, teaming up with Tito Santana to form Strike Force. But when he tried to go solo and pursue fame in the Singles Division, he was never able to raise above the mid-card level.

As for the "No Rules" or "Hardcore" matches like HiaC and soforth, yeah, it only increases the chances of someone getting badly hurt, which is why the athletes have to be all the more careful. But you kind of have to be willing to be a little foolhardy, too. It's like when Kurt Angle commented about a cage match he had with Eddie Guerrero, when Angle performed a Moonsault off the top of the cage. He basically said, if you're going to do something like that, you have to just do it. You can't let yourself think in that situation, because the longer you're up there, the quicker you're just going to end up talking yourself out of it.

Now, as for blood, well, I know that back in the day, when an athlete got cut and started bleeding, in some cases, they would actually purposely cut themselves with a concealed razor blade or some such thing in order to make the match more dramatic. Whether self inflicted or not, however, the amount someone bleeds usually depends on the depth of the cut. If it's not particularly deep, it'll sometimes heal over during the course of the match. If it IS deep, however, well...not so lucky. One thing about the wrestlers getting hurt, though. You can always tell it's not part of the show whenever Emergency Medical Teams come rushing to the ring immediately, not conveniently showing up after the heel has had the opportunity to do even more damage.

Well, as for someone like the Junkyard Dog, whose daughter accepted the HoF award for him, the thing is, JYD is one of those guys whose final years in the business were really not very kind to him. As for Angle, well, we'll see.

As for entrance themes, well, some change, some don't. Some will go with a different theme for a while and then revert back to a classic theme (see guys like Undertaker and Kane). It all depends how long a wrestler's been around, I guess.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-18 21:48:56 +0000 UTC]

i do coincide with you about the Tag-Team style...i remember when John Cena and Randy Orton won their tag team titles...they didn't go with the flow of being tag team partners (Cena with Michales,Batista,Otunga and Miz; and Randy orton with Edge)...and is true the tag Team division of the old times really had the spice and not follow a simple storyline...is like my sister says some wrestlers can't act as the scripture says or at much try to hide the reality in the entertainment...some wrestlers tend to break the fourth wall and that's a error some wrestlers mainly newcomers get into

is true Shawn Michaels was tag team partners with Marty janetty and Bret Hart with Jim Neidhart (father of Natayla) those tag teammeate may have marked the last ones who really sticked up the good position as partners...but like you said the oportunity as for looking being solo and getting to the top and earned the shot for a world heavyweight title is the main reason why many tag teams break up...for example Miz as ou can see now is a high noted star and won multiple world titles but he started from below and only was functioned as a tag team player than a singles man...is like Jeff Hardy when he went on solo it didn't match good its style as a singles player but as the time passes by one gets used to him as a top player...so for many wrestlers that are at top best have to give thanks they once formed a tag team stable because if it wasn't for him/her as a tag team player he/she wouldn't get to the position he/she is right now

hey is true the French-Canadian wrestler never went up to the top which is why he isn't well recognize today but only to the ones who watched him wrestle back in his time but to say the truth he never shine greatly like the others

i think you're right...many of us say "c'mon you guys are wrestlers just wrestle as they do in the cartoons"...but in reality some of us never get in the shoes of the wrestlers who by far have to get seriously hurt for the enternainment of the fans and the money...to me WWE is fine right now just the relegation of the TV14 to TVPG messed up what was really the feature programing of WWF/E...although here in Ecuador the classification is still "(B) Bajo Supervisión de Adultos" Which translates Programing under supervision of adults or at far a TV 12 programme...but the reality is that WWE is meant to entertain us and not just be a ordinary sport...i surely do remember Kurt angoe aplying that move to Guerrero and lets not forget Jeff Hardy's 8 meter fall from the titantron to Randy orton...those wrestlers did went to adrenaline and endure much more pain than other wrestlers and get paid even less than wrestlers who are much more known...preety pity right there which is why i think now all wrestlers have the same style and no one is getting used to preform dangerous stunts and still not be a top proirity...all is equal

to the whole boold case...it will always remian a mystery and for some fact may be real or fake...but like said the WWE Paramedics when they come after the Heel tip the face more damage is part of the show and carrying the wrestle who was heavily damaged dosen't mean he will be out for weeks but in fact is just so he can heel quickly much like in Football the in camp Paramedics carry the footballer outside the pitch and there he/she may say if they feel well enough to continue playing or not be replaced...that can also be seen happening in the WWE or TNA...when cameras are off the wrestler who was carry outside the ring decides how he will continue which by far a simple massage and little therapy can recharge good the endurance of the wrestler so he/she can wrestle in the house shows coming upon or the PPV's

mmm you know i do agree with the JYD fact...to me a wrestle who will dearly be booed because of his famous gimmick is JBL...i mean some may cheer but for the most part boo him...now if he goes by the APA gimmick maybe there will be more cheers to him but lets be realistic here...he became more famous as a rich texan cowboy than a drunk bodyguards...as for Angle well see man can't wait jeje

the themes depend on how the wrestle want it to chance...though there are some wrestlers that do make their themes and for that their themes can be exclusevely for WWE or TNA like Booker T and possibly R-truth who raps his very own entrance theme

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-21 14:23:28 +0000 UTC]

Well, wrestlers always get hurt in one way or another. whether or not that injury keeps them out of action depends on the severity of it. Take a few years ago when Triple-H blew out that leg muscle of his in the closing minutes of a Raw broadcast and still managed to finish the match anyway (which only ended up damaging his leg more). Well, after the show ended and he was being helped into the back (because obviously, he couldn't walk under his own power), his mind was already racing as he thought about his situation. He was like, "Okay, where are we at now, April? Figure surgery, recovery, rehab, I'll be out for about six months, give or take. Which means I should be able to come back around..."

As for JBL, yeah, it's true about him. I mean, yeah, that whole APA thing for the 1000th episode of Raw was just for kicks. But the whole "Rich Boy" thing was just more him. Like you said about how some wrestlers break the fourth wall, in some cases, it actually becomes quite beneficial to them. JBL was one example because, in real life, he actually was heavily invested in the stock market and even wrote books on investing. This was mostly because he knew he wouldn't be wrestling forever (maybe even less than he thought if a severe injury forced him into early retirement). So he used the money he made wisely so he'd be able to support himself after WWE. But then, they turned that side of him on its head and made it his in-ring thing as well. Of course, now we have Alberto Del Rio doing the whole "Rich Guy" routine now, so it's up in the air if JBL will be all that necessary. But who knows? With Jerry Lawler laid up indefinitely after that heart attack scare a couple of weeks back, JBL might be able to use this new Commentator gig he's got now as a jumping-off point to get back into the ring again.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-21 22:01:13 +0000 UTC]

is true many wrestlers do get injured even in live show events like Raw or Smackdown...other examples can trace Skip Sheffield (current Ryback) injured himself during a Live event and manage to finish off the match and after the macth he was heled out and didn't return for a year after that and return as a different named person...they're so many other wrestlers their names escapes me but also happend the same situation lie Misterio and even Cena as well as Edge...but like you said they have a scripted event to culminate and it has to be finish depending as a win or a loss...they can't reject to finish off the match since is their objective to entertain the fans and not leave them at the middle of the match...now there's a good wrestler who does his job not only for the money but as well for the love of his carrer dosen't matter if he/she is face or heel

true that JBL is much more recognizable as a rich boy than APA...even if he returned in the 1000 episode of RAW as APA many (like me) would rather shout to him JBL since he is more known in that gimmick...i never knew that JBL was actually as a rich man in real life but then again the more higher ranikng a wrestler is in the story line the mroe money he/she will recieve as well as the more merchadises it sells...Alberto del Rio can be traced as a high-class person in real life since he comes froma family of well known wrestlers in Mexico and by far a somewhat rich guy...as for JBL taking over the commenting table...the fact is that he's very good in critizing the Face wrestlers and not the Heels...i mean Miz did that job wekks ago and to say the truth me much more makes us laugh when critizing than JBL...and by far JBL going in Favour to the Hells make now Michale Cole solely neutral in who to cheer for since Jim Ross is a well known face supporter

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-26 14:51:21 +0000 UTC]

Well, speaking of JBL and Alberto Del Rio, I kind of got to thinking, it might be interesting, with Survivor Series coming up, maybe see a traditional Survivor Series match between Team Alberto and Team JBL, just to see whose money can BUY the best team. I think it would be amusing to see, if nothing else, but such a thing wouldn't be too likely to happen. Mostly because it would distract Del Rio from the world title hunt he's in right now.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-27 04:04:08 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah that would sound great to see Team JBL vs Team Del Rio though i may say it dosen't look to reality since both wrestlers are heels...but like yoy said whose money can buy the best team...now that sounds like a very good and spicy heel-heel rivalry right there...hey if theres the Rock and John Cena feudings and both are faces...why not two heels fighting against each other to see whose the better man...hope Mcmahon makes that storyline and forget the whole Del Rio-Sheamus feud...let Sheamus feud another wrestler like the swiss guy for example jeje

and as for the Del Rio title hunt...who knows maybe he'll take a break from hunting the World Title and maybe pursued for another title like the US Champion or a creative title called the "Richest man in the world title' jeje

i for one have to say a nay to a returning wrestler Ryback...i eman seeing him as a face dosen't go with him very well as for Brodus Clay...they have good acting skills as heels than faces...i dont know maybe theyr bullylike personality makes them good heels instead of faces...i am also in waiting to see the daughter of Eddie Guerrero and Vickie to ascend to the top WWE (Raquel Diaz is her name in FCW) hope she has the same wrestling skills of her late father and hopefully revives the Attitude era in wrestling in the divas division

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-27 14:37:21 +0000 UTC]

Well, as for my Alberto Del Rio/JBL suggestion, heels have faced heels before. It's usually just a thing for the fans and you're really not supposed to care who wins. You're just supposed to hope they both get hurt really badly. As for Del Rio's feud with Sheamus, actually, I think this goes back a few months ago where Del Rio and Sheamus were supposed to have a World Title match at a Pay-Per-View, but Del Rio got injured and missed it. So I think this is just WWE trying to make it up to him somewhat. I really think they're counting on Del Rio to be a part of their long-term stable.

As for your suggestion for Del Rio, are you, perhaps suggesting a resurgence of the "Million-Dollar Champion"? That was a title that "The Million Dollar Man", Ted DiBiase invented back in the day, in order to compensate for the fact that he could never win the World Title.

As for Ryback, I don't know. It seems more to me like WWE is trying to just make its own version of Bill Goldberg. Not that I really had a problem with Bill Goldberg. It's just that his "one-trick pony" routine got a little old after a while. Let's hope WWE takes Ryback in a better direction. As for Brodus Clay, well, I like him okay (he's got kind of a Bam Bam Bigelo quality in his stature). But I can't help agreeing with JBL's evaluation of him when he was on Commentary a couple of weeks ago. It's a historical fact in the wrestling business that novelty acts have never made for particularly successful careers...or particularly long ones, either. If Clay wants to climb the ladder and stay there for the foreseeable future, he's eventually going to have to get more serious.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-28 08:18:13 +0000 UTC]

mmm never imagine to see two heels face off but then again it is a fan active option to select their choosings like it is happening nowadays...and oh yeah they must get hurt real bad jeje...but for me the rivalry of Del Rio and Sheamus can look as a good rivalry since both are big stars in Smackdown also they are like the mascots of Smackdown

oh yeah i forgot that Ted Dibiase sr. invented that title...is true it cannot be remaked...but to many the storyline beyond in Del Rio's WWE stance is a mystery to many fans and who knows he can make a surprise that many of us didn't even imagine he will do but to me i may say that before 2012 or early 2013 Ricardo Rodríguez will turn on Del Rio therefore turning Alberto face well is a prediction opinion by me but who knows maybe another method is instore to them

no Goldberg is Only no one can be the same as that legend but then again the new generation is willing to redesign the older generations gimmick...mmm never knew JBL made a negative evaluation but like you said Clay may uprise someday but all is to the scripture of the company to how each wrestler is in stance of acture...is like AJ who knew they would've assinged her as GM of Raw...to me she's the youngest ever GM of Raw at 25 but really acts like a teenager than an adult and as much as a GM then again each wrestler has its gimmick in his/her script so the skipping of AJ is her wrestling personality and way...though a rivalry between her and Vickie looks very good since Vickie was in some time a GM of Smackdown and even Raw

hey speaking of managers i've heard that in august they released the manager of the prime time players...they said it had to do to his multiple insults i got confused to his out of nowhere departure

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-09-28 15:04:38 +0000 UTC]

Well, again, the whole Del Rio/Sheamus thing I think dates back to that Pay-Per-View in Spring where they were supposed to have a World Title Match. But then Del Rio got hurt a week or two before the event and was out for a couple of months, so Dolph Ziggler had to fill in for him. So I think this rivalry is mostly just to get Del Rio back on track, career-wise.

As for your prediction about Ricardo turning on Del Rio, it's not outside the realm of possibility. I mean, we HAVE seen it many times before. The only question is, if he did, where would he go from there? Let's face it, Ricardo is clearly not a wrestler in his own right. So you'd have to wonder what kind of future he would have in WWE outside of Del Rio's shadow.

Well, again, not to take anything away from Bill Goldberg, because he was a phenomenal draw. But the thing with his is, WCW just brought him up too far too fast and I don't think he got properly acclimated to the business. So in the end, I don't think he went as far as he COULD have. Frankly, I think Brock Lesnar had the same problem in the UFC. I personally think Brock would have had a great UFC career if he'd taken things slow and not been so willing to let the company push him farther than he was actually ready to go. But getting back to the topic at hand, I hope WWE doesn't make the same mistake with Ryback and actually tries to DO something with him.

As for Brodus Clay, well, JBL didn't really say anything negative about him. In fact, during his commentary, he was repeatedly heard to say that he thought Clay had the makings of a big name in WWE. But he's not going to get there if he settles for just being a novelty act. And personally, I'm inclined to agree. I think Clay is going to need to get serious when he decides he wants to get to the next level. Something I wouldn't mind seeing AJ do either. Personally, I like the idea of AJ as the Raw GM. After all, I think we can both agree that she didn't bring much to the ring as an actual performer. Also, given her persona, I'm kind of reminded of the old saying, "You don't have to be crazy to do this job, but it helps". Still, I wouldn't mind seeing her get a little more serious in this role, either. Not a lot serious, but just a little bit, you know?

As for WWE letting that one guy go, yeah, I'd heard about that. Something about making prejudiced comments on Twitter or something like that. Basically, he went out and publicly said a lot of things he shouldn't have. And he had to take the heat for it.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-09-28 23:24:28 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah i do remember that part when Doph Ziggler replaced him for the world title place...is cool to see the vengeance of Del Rio and assuming to recuperate the title that he was dearly to earn last spring but then again not to say much criticism but Sheamus is becoming like the second John Cena in which he never losses so i would doubt Alberto cna win it unless he has helped interfearance

and you're right Ricardo if he turns on Del Rio he'll go anywhere but back to FCW like Alex Riley foe example ever since he turned on Miz he has some shots in the big stage but went down to appear on WWE Superstars and back to FCW as well as most EX Nexus members (though The PrimeTime players some of the female ex NXT stars have return to the majors after seeing the opportunity at greatest to return)...and to say much Ricardo is not in a shape to be a Cody Rhode wrestler but much to a Rhyno type (he's kinda chubby as last seen last Raw)

well we just have to see where far will Brodus Clay will go in his storyline...he's like the Zach Ryder a nothing guy went up to earn a title and be more recognizable (although he was part of Edge's La Familia but after they disollutioned Zach Ryder went to FCW as well as his other partner)...well is true she as a wrestler is poor and not great...but hey as an actress behind stage she's pretty awesome i mean she has better acting skills than Kelly Kelly and Aksana...and seeng her as GM looks ok by far but then again if we see more Raw we will see maybe AJ getting more seroiusly in her job position

well AW had it coming by speaking without sense and badly insulting without mercy...i mean is ok to talk about another person but insulting it is crossing the line right there...also the primetime Players look preety ogood without a manager ...i would say AW was more of a nuisance to Daren Young and Titus Oneal than a real manager to be intimidated and royally admired

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-02 09:43:14 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think you've got a point with Sheamus being built up as another John Cena. Especially since they're apparently pairing him off with the Big Show at the Hell in a Cell Pay-Per-View. All in all, it looks like the whole Del Rio thing has run its course for now, especially since Del Rio now seems fixated on Randy Orton right now. I guess we'll see if anything comes from that or if it becomes a meaningless distraction for him.

Getting back to Ryback for a moment, it's looking more an more like it'll be him and CM Punk at HiaC, what with Cena being on the Injured List. That actually might turn out to be quite beneficial for him, though. See, I was mentioning that whole Goldberg comparison before and why that was a problem for me. Well, aside from Goldberg being brought up too far, too fast, the main worry among a lot of critics early in his career was that very few of his matches lasted longer than two minutes, which had a lot of critics wondering if he could keep up a consistent ring performance. Or would he just be a flash in the pan in the opening minutes of a full-on match and then plod the rest of the way. I'm kind of thinking that people might have the same worries about Ryback, and that's why HiaC would be a good showcase for him. Even if he doesn't win, if he can maintain a consistently quality performance from bell to bell against Punk, that would go a long way to solidifying him as a major player and silencing any nagging critics that have the same Goldberg worries.

As for AJ, I think what we need to see with her role is someone beside her, acting in kind of a "Chief of Staff" position. Someone to keep all the knucklehead stuff out of her face and let her focus on making the right decisions for the Raw brand. That would make AJ a lot more successful as a GM in my mind, without these petty distractions to get in her way.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-10-02 23:59:03 +0000 UTC]

well about the Del Rio story..i think like you said he is more into a rivalry with Randy Orton than with Sheamus..however he still has that desire of being "Wol Hebiwuet Shampiyon" like he says jeje...also i think maybe just maybe he will get another shot at Survivor series the next PPV after Hell in a Cell but it is not known if it will be a singles match of a triple threat or fatal 4 way or 4 way battle royal...also it can also be traced that Del Rio might be a leader of Team Smackdown if he is not in the hunt for another Title and just become the noticable wrestler in Smackdown...then again i dont know what brand he is in becuase he appears in both of them jeje

mmm i dont see Ryback as a subtitute of JC and going to the top in just weeks...then again Daniel Bryan made it to the top in less than 3 months so i may say that's the new way of WWE and the rookies ascending a position that took many older wrestlers years to get to like the Miz or Jeff Hardy...as for the 2 minutes matches...jeje is like watching the divas wrestle in which it takes the girls only 2-3 minutes per match when before a match lasted as far as 10 minutes for the girls...i think Rybackis trying to make a statement as being the almighty wrestler and the messiah of WWE in just weeks after his return to WWE...then again he can be a great outturn wrestler of the year but his gimmick is more towrds a heel than a face...or maybe just maybe he is an anti-hero like Triple H was that is a Face/Heel...but Ryback if he loses it dosent mean that is the end of the world...one has to know when to win and Lose as well but i cna see Ryback as a Intercontinental champion type persona and not a WWE Title man just yet

as for the cute AJ...hey she has been Gm for 2 months and by little by little she is getting a little respect but not wholly possibly a 25% simply because many see her as a person to step on and also becuase shes 25 very young compared to other GM's (excluding one night GM's from the time special guests GM Raw from that specific night)...but lest face it AJ as a wrestler is not of grand type and bot even as a tag team she is great...who knows her acting skills helped her stayed in the majors and not be lowered to FCW like some of ex-NXT members

hey did you saw Raw last monday night...i've always wonder what ever happend to JBL...and that Raw episode they aired JBL ascendint Mount Kilimanjaro of Tanzania,Africa...wow is great to ascend nearly 6.200 meters in altitude and in one of the most famed mountains in the world...even though it is lowered than the tallest mountain in my country Chimborazo jejeje

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-07 08:58:52 +0000 UTC]

Well, with Sheamus apparently having his hands full with the Big Show at HiaC, it's unclear when Del Rio's next opportunity will present itself. As for Survivr Series, we'll have to wait and see.

As for Ryback, I have no illusions that he'll replace John Cena. But if he goes to HiaC and manages to give a solid performance in his match, win or loes, it'll go a long way to fully getting him over as a quality performer and silencing any critics who might view him as simply a Goldberg clone.

As for AJ, well, here's hoping things will improve for her. As for JBL, well, he appeared that one week after the Jerry Lawler heart attack scare, but nothing's been heard from him since. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. As for him making that ascent, well, if he's got the time and the money, more power to him.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-10-07 21:10:40 +0000 UTC]

mmm i dont know what to say about Del Rio's future...but like you said is better the waiting and find out...i mean Big Show came back from i would say vacationing and has earned quickly a title show against the Great White Sheamus...to say much i do like the way how Del Rio lets to go another wrestler to get a title shot and marginalize him temporarily...inlike Cena...who has lost to Punk frequently time he still dosen't feel the desire tor etire from the rivalry with Punk and getting that title with any cost...i mean he has to give the shot to another wrestler...i mean even CM Punk said the same thing...but hey thats WWE there

hey have you heard that Kelly Kelly has been released recently last week...that news was kinda noticealbe seeing her was in somewhat vacationing and by final hour they announce her discharge from the company...well she hasn't been producing great ratings and was more of a anoyance to the company...Kelly Kelly together with The Bella Twins mark as a kinda of noticeable discharge...i would have to say that their downslide they have went into have made them in target to be released from the company...or maybe some negative negiciations between the diva and the company

well Ryback can uprise to fame like Sheamus,Del Rio and Even Daniel Bryan did in just a short time...but it to final...on months passing its summit reach...Ryback will be lowered and give the summit shot to another newcomer or a current wrestler who will be uprise

as for CM Punk's 322 days with the title...you know John Cena said a truth 2 mohtns ago about the statistics...JC has held it for 380 straight days...i mean if CM Punk feels he is better than John Cena that right there is a real milestone...i for one do wish Punk reaches that 381 mark and her says the fact of being the greatest int he world (though not the real greatest)

he has to hold that title til christmas to surpass JC mark

yeah is true...JBL has so much free time and money that he can go tour the world...i mean i wish i can ascend the highest mountain in Africa but my poorly resources and low class declines me to make that trip...though someday i wish to see the world...as for my desire is cross the atlantic ocean...i've never been away from the Americas

and yep Jerry Lawler is by little recuperating...although i might have to say that he won't be the same since a person who comes from a heart attack or any other stroke like attacks come to become more neutral and less histerical...so the crazy king might be low pro if he comes back and possibly won't part-time wrestle anymore..then again i can be wrong who knows...the Jim Ross-Cole team looks very solid and both are face-supporting commentators instead of the heel beloved Cole and face follower King Lawler

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-08 20:08:17 +0000 UTC]

Well, CM Punk keeping the title past Christmas is going to depend entirely on whether WWE wants to see Rock/Punk at the Royal Rumble. For that to happen, Punk is going to HAVE to hold the title past Christmas, because the next Rumble isn't going to be until the end of January.

I do kind of see where you're coming from with the whole Punk/Cena rivalry, though. I have to admit, it IS getting old. I mean, for my money, this thing should have been over two matches ago. But WWE seems insistent on dragging it out. Why, I don't know.

As for Ryback, we'll have to wait and see what happens. As for JBL, yeah, it must be nice to have the resources to do those kinds of things. Personally, I wouldn't mind taking a trip to Japan at least once. But that's me.

As for Kelly Kelly and the Bella Twins, I don't know much about that. I mean, the Bella Twins might have had some staying power if WWE had a Women's Tag Title like TNA does. But since they don't, there's really not a lot of point to a women's Tag Team, is there? As for Kelly Kelly, I don't know the details behind that.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-10-08 22:57:37 +0000 UTC]

to say much the decision on who is fighting the Rock is in dispute since Dwanye Johnson said he'll face whoever enters RR champion last early summer...so it can be bewteen CM Punk or John Cena...to many John Cena may enter RR as champion (and thus far confront Rocky) to fight part 2 of the two greatest versing...but again like you said maybe the WWE Have instore to change that storyline in involucrating Punk...lets remember that last year Punk said he dislikes the Rock because he comes to WWE for a while and then leaves while the real wrestlers stay in the ring fighting (hence there defending his rival Cena)...the whole Punk-Rock rivalry can heat up the ratings since both are considered by themselves as the greatest...Punk's Best in the world against the Poeople's Champion The Rock

as for the Punk/Rock rivarly...is true it is getting old and annoying...is like Edge Cena's rivalry was getting old and was one of the most long lasting rivalries since WWF drop the F...also Randy Orton had a long rivalry with a wrestler but have forgot his name...i Mean John Cena without a title is still the same why pushing him for a title and not give it to another wrestler...but again the money earrnings is what makes WWE in doubt to drop this rivalry storyline and at most look for a loophole to still earn the dough they're earning...Since WWF began in 1985 (year of first wrestlemana) Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Stone Cold, The Rock and Shawn Michales have all been at the top where JC is...but none of them have ever raise so much popularity and thus far been the face of WWE for a very long time...also all the mentioned wrestlers have turned heel in a time...John Cena is to see much as the best object to come upon the company and also the main reason to lowered the TV Category supervision...since 2006 John Cena has been in what he is today...six years of the same thing...i mena even the music is getting annoying...but them again is the gimmick position he holds...WWE wants to change his storyline (even John Cena himself) but the money and the fear of lisong fanatics and ratings is that intimidtes the company to overchange Johnny Boy

yeah lets see the future of Ryback...he's still a rookie...and also he's solo and nto in group tags(NEXUS)...and JBL congrats on your ascend...i for one also with to know japan and see the anime museum...well i know i made it up but who knows maybe it does exist...Dragonball is what made Japan the anime base

as for the departed girls...they weren't much noticed to the public...and even more that combats of divas are less than 5 minutes...which is why many fans in that time are either texting of going to bathrooms or getting hot dogs...simply because it dossen't have any chemical static of taste...also the girls dont present a bit soptlight like the guys do (ecample behind the ring scenes)

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-09 09:50:39 +0000 UTC]

Well, as for who will face The Rock at the Royal Rumble, that all depends who WWE will think can make a better draw. I mean, like I said, I'm sure there are no shortage of fans who would like to see Cena make up for his little Wrestlemania snafu. But a Punk/Rock match wouldn't be without merit, either.

Also, the fact that Cena is still the flagbearer of the company in many ways, even without the belt is another reason I wouldn't mind seeing this feud with Punk die. Cena is going to have several more title reigns before his career draws to a close, let there be no doubt. But the simple fact is, he doesn't NEED the title right now, so why keep putting him in Title matches? Although it may become moot depending on how next week's Raw goes. Although last night's Raw ended with Vince McMahon giving Punk an ultimatum to either face Cena or Ryback, it's become clear that this whole thing with Ryback has been a case of WWE hedging its bets, as there's still a chance that Cena might not be medically cleared to perform at HiaC, due to his injured arm. My bet is, if Cena is checked out and signed off on to perform at HiaC, then the storyline will reveal Cena to be Punk's opponent (hopefully for their final match...at least for a very long time). If not, Ryback will have to step in for him.

Still, I stand by what I said that this would be a good stepping stone for Ryback's career. I mean, main eventing a Pay-Per-View...in a HiaC match no less? Careers have been made on less. He doesn't have to win the match, he just has to put on a good performance. Having said that, though, if he DOES win, I've got a sneaky feeling that that will be when Dolf Ziggler cashes in his Money in the Bank contract (assuming he doesn't do it at the end of the Sheamus/Big Show match).

Anyway, as for anime, well, Dragonball didn't make Japan the anime base. JAPAN made Japan the anime base because Japan created anime, of course. But it was Dragonball and Sailor Moon that made anime a mainstream medium here in the West. Without them, anime wouldn't likely be nearly as popular as it is right now.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-10-10 00:29:11 +0000 UTC]

well for the pleased of the mayority of the fans...i would have to say that John Cena will face The Rock as a part 2 fight..also Punk's goal is to surpass Cena's 380 days streak as champion and from there if he losses it it won't be as bad for him since he has surpass Johnny's 380 days...but then again all depends on how the storyline goes by on...also to hear that CM Punk has to decie either JC or Ryback is kinda of a funny decision to Punk...to much Punk will choose Ryback since he's a newcomer and as well a new challenger and not the same guy all over and over again...who knows maybe just maybe Ryback is Punk's new rivalry sense

and yep Cena with or without a title is always the flagbearer of the company...to mych i would have to say that Cena wants to surpass Ric Flair's 16 time title heldings...he now has 10 or 11 if im not mistaken...his goal is to reach 20(much like Undertaker's finished goal of reaching 20) and by far be on the #2 list of acumulative heldings of the WWF/E title by surpassing the great Hulk Hogan...and by far John Cena will not reach the italian-american wrestler Bruno Sammartino who holds the longest held of the title in consecutive days (2803) as well the longest acumulative hold (4040)

as for John Cena's injured arm...it all depends on how the medics say in what percentage the arm is by the time of HiaC...but them again John Cena's ambition in wrestling may have him enter the ring sooner who knows

well as for seeing if Ryback wins in HiaC it all deonds of the outcome...let's remember that he is undefeated and maybe just maybe he'll get his first loss in HiaC if he goes to main eventing the PPV...as for Dolph Ziggler cashing in the Money Back case...it all depends on how low the stamina and energy the holding champion is at like almost all wrestlers who have had the briefcase has cashed it in...lets remember that John Cena and Mr Kennedy are the only wrestlers who have cashed it in and lose the match....and Ziggler as a heel it is possible he's going to cash it in at the right moment and not at the wrong one (ex. Sheamus really beaten up of Punk very weak)

is true Sailor Moon was another great anime...although it was more to a feminist drawing...i'd like it as well...others like Pokémon and Naruto has made great drawings of watchers as well...the others not so much

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-16 10:47:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, another Raw has come and gone and it looks like we've got our answer. Cena must not be medically cleared to compete for HiaC, since the torch has obviously been passed to Ryback. Getting Cena's public endorsement during the broadcast was definitely a help. But now that he's been thrust into the spotlight like this, I hope the time gets taken to flesh him out a bit. Oh, Ryback's a big bruiser, let there be no doubt. I'm not expecting to hear six-syllable words from the guy. But this wild animal attack dog persona is only going to get him so far, career-wise. And when wrestlers suddenly find themselves on the big stage, fans tend to expect a little bit more from them in terms of personality. So I'm hoping a little time gets taken to make him a little more three-dimensional, kind of like Sheamus is now and like Dave Batista before them (you'll recall that when they both first made their WWE debuts, they were both more or less the same thing).

The wild card now, of course, is Dolph Ziggler. I'm still reasonably sure that he's going to sneak in and put up his MitB contract during this Pay-Per-View. The only question now is, is he going to screw the winner of the Sheamus/Big Show match or the winner of the Punk/Ryback match?

As for Sailor Moon, well, creator, Naoko Takeuchi, was all about feminism when she created the series. Truth is, she wanted it to be all about the girls, so the men all got shoved into the background. Which led to a couple of regrets she had, in retrospect. One regret was the Dark Kingdom Generals in Queen Beryl/Queen Metallia storyline. In the manga, she killed them all off in relatively short order. But when the anime came out and she first heard the the voice actor they lined up to play Jadeite, she thought his performance was so perfect, she instantly regretted killing the Generals off as quickly as she did.

Tuxedo Mask was another regret she had. Even though his role was significantly larger in the manga than it was in the anime (and you don't even want to get me started on all the missteps the anime made), Takeuchi didn't really care for how his character ultimately evolved (again, she blamed the problem on that her focus was always on the women). The way she wanted Tuxedo Mask to be was like a dark character, like the manga character, Captain Harlock, which was a big inspiration for her (or, if a Western reference is more familiar, basically like Batman). But in the end, she fell well-short of making him brooding and just made him kind of gloomy, which wasn't what she wanted.

Interesting sidenote, in 1999, Naoko Takeuchi went on to marry Yoshihiro Togashi, creator of the manga series, "Yu Yu Hakusho" and "Hunter X Hunter". They remain happily married and have two children.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-10-17 05:07:48 +0000 UTC]

well to say much Ryback have reached heights fairly faster than other wrestlers...i mean as Skip Sheffield he never made great noticable acts and was for the most part overshadowed by more noticable wrestlers like Barrett,Otunga or Justin Gabriel...in fact Ryback as Skip Sheffied was in the same grade category as Heath Slater...his injury cause him to leave the WWE for a year...and now he comes back as a unstoppable wrecking ball and really good...now the test of his great uprising in the wwe business is put to the test in HiaC where he will face CM Punkk for the WWE Title...it is doubtful that he'll win but hey to Ryback is a honour to fight in a main event and for a title for the first time...those oportunities never come by that quick and easy...also the choice for Ryback as Punk's Opponet may be like you said of Cena's health condition and John's more concentrated for Survivor series where there he will truely be in great mode to face the WWE Champion but all depends in how the storyline of Cena will shift beyond what we saw in Raw last night...will he still be hunting the title or will he have a new adversary rival to deal with ???

as for Dolph Ziggler cashing it in in HiaC...hey out of all the MitB winners none have mentioned when and where they will cash in theire contract...is like Jim Ross said way before that a wrestler has up to a year to cash the briefcase from where he won the case(example 17 july 2012 to expire 17 july 2013)...Edge the 1st MiaB winner cased it 10 months later in January 2006 after winning it in the debuting MiaB match in Wrestlemania 21...and a wrestler i've forgot the nae cashed it in in just hours or a day after forgot...but like i said Ziggler isn't that clueless to cash it in in the PPV since by hearing this Punk and Sheamus as well as the opponents Ryback and Big Show..all these wrestlers will be most aware when and where they will see a sneak surprise from Ziggler and by far backfire the chance for the SHow off to win the title and there become the 3rd wrestler to cash the MiaB case and lose it together with John Cena and Mr Kennedy

is true Sailor moon barehy have males in their listings and passerbys...the show mostly consisted of the main cast action girls and their lives in what i may say a all girls college..but yep many creators have a different taste in how he/she want's to evolve thier animated series...it cna be from all girls like Sailor Moon to all animals like CatDog...all aliens like Planet Sheen (excluding the main character) or even small blue people like the Smurfs

i love the story of the marriage of the creator of Sailor Moon and Hunter X Hunter and YU YU Hakusho...hey love can be embraced by the equalness of the boy and girl and the chemistry is at great...and what better great to keep the legacy alive with their offsprings

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-22 08:34:12 +0000 UTC]

Well, with Ryback in the picture, a lot of things are up in the air right now. But then, it depends on a lot of factors. First and foremost is Dolph Ziggler and whether or not he cashes in his MitB contract. It's true that he has a whole year to hang onto it (he can even cash it in at Wrestlemania if he wants), but if he cashes it in at HiaC, it'll be in typical Heel Fashion. Which means he'll only cash it in to screw either Sheamus or Ryback (assuming that either of them wins their respective match). If Ryback wins and Ziggler uses it on him, however, it would leave CM Punk out in the cold. For one thing, it would fizzle out the traditional "Rematch Clause", because Ryback will have lost the title before Punk can claim it. And if that happens, who knows when Punk will see a title shot again? With only two PPV's left before the Royal Rumble, would he be able to get the title back in time to face the Rock like he wants to? Of course, this is all based on a lot of ifs...IF Punk loses...IF Ziggler cashes in his contract...and IF he takes the title from Ryback. There's no guarantee that anything I've said will actually happen. That's just one basic path the story could take. Actually, with Paul Heyman in the mix, it could easily go another way, now that I think about it.

Anyway, you talked about other superstars before. Actually, of all the ones you've mentioned, I think that Wade Barrett actually has the best long-term future on the horizon. All the moves they've made with Barrett so far indicate that they're going to do with him what they've done with other superstars like Triple-H, Bret Hart, John Cena and so on. They'll start him off slow with other titles...Intercontinental, European, whatever...they'll bring him up slow and they'll bring him up right. So that when Barrett finally steps into the main event spotlight, he'll stay there for a very long time. At least I'm hoping they do. I know he's not a fan favorite, but I kind of like Barrett. I like his charisma, I like the way he performs. Far better than someone like David Otunga, unfortunately. I mean, don't get me wrong, Otunga's built like a tank, but they keep playing him up as a preppy clown. And has that EVER worked in WWE? Triple-H never got REALLY successful until he cast that persona off. And ask Damien Sandow where he's going to be in a few years.

As for Sailor Moon, it's true that it was all about the girls (Naoko Takeuchi WANTED it to be about Tuxedo Mask as well, but she kept losing him in the shuffle). Still, the manga is a far superior product than the anime (again, you don't want to get me started there). Admittedly, the Sailor Stars storyline in the manga kind of runs off the rails a bit (you kind of have to take most of it for granted and not ask a whole lot of questions, because the story will get away from you if you try to see any logic in it), but I still far prefer it to the anime.

Anyway, Naoko Takeuchi's marriage to Yoshihiro Togashi is a bit of an interesting point to me...especially since marriage wasn't a high priority for her while she was creating Sailor Moon. Just goes to show you how some things change.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-10-24 03:38:12 +0000 UTC]

I in far may say that Ziggler is going to cash it in Wrestlemania which i would atten by the way since is going to be in NY where my parents currently live...the reason is because Ziggler loves the center of attention...and maybe just maybe he would like to fire up the WM by cashing in his MitB in the biggest stage of them all...and as well become the second longest holding of the briefcase (after Edge)...then again that is all opinion of mines but who knows it could happend...but if he does cashes it in in PPV this sunday i would be on either the victor of the WWE or World heavyweight champion...i would doubt that Punk would lose the title that easy and maybe even cause a clause to leave HiaC as the remaining champ...to say much his goal is to reach John Cena's 380 title helding from 7 years ago and therefore claim himself as the best in the world much to Cena to accept and move on to another rivalry

also i've checked the hsitory of the WWF/E champion...to say much John Cena reached 380 days up until he suffered a injury and had to succeded the title to vacancy in 2007...another history is that John Cena would've had 435 striaght days as wwe champion when he won his first WWE title...up until it was interrupted by Edge when cashed in the very first MitB...to mathematically if Edge wouldn't cash in that bfrifcase that night and acummulating the 280 with the 21 days of Edge and the 133 days Cena regain the title...Cena would've had 434 straight days with the title...now that is a good record assuming that now many wrestlers can become champions and not the same dudes like way back in the days...to my saying it would take way more tactics to prove Punk to Cena he's better by him not acknowledging Cena's past...and we all can remember his past very well...but again it Punk does reaches 380...there he can say he's better than Cena in surpassing JC's great record of accumulating days as champ...but to Punk to there to prove Cena hes better than him is to by accounting his 367+ days as accumulative champion...he would have to hold on to the title or at much win it back and forth several times and accumulate nearly 700 more days (nearly 2 years) and not let Cena win the title ever (which will be very unlikely since he'll regain it someday and someway or another)...right there he can prove to the WWE universe he's the best in the world and probably the new face of WWE if possible...but then again all this are theories and all depends on how it can happend via WWE scripts

to say much Barrett may be like you said the new future of the horizon...we all have to remember how many times he had oppotunities to win the title and never gain to win it (even by having Cena's to his aid while a member of Nexus)...but again like Ryback...he has come back with a new persona and is more seroius about it and not a amateur wrestler like before...but again Barrett has to commence from small til reaching to the top and there win the title with ease and with no help...i do however see Barrett main eventing WM...and to me i predict he'll win the upcoming Royal Rumble in January...it is obvious by 60%...the opponet he'll face will depend on the storyline...but i do predict a Sheamus-Barrett brawl...a British-Irish fight there and worth watching...and about Otunga...hmmm hes a complicated subject...but to say much his persona in the scriptline may presence him not so greatly...he has gone the same route as Heath Slater...i mean Daniel Bryan's gimmich has made him reach well above and hey now he's a popular icon with his anger managements in hands...and the team he forms with Kane the TEAM HELL NO is by far one of the most hillarous tag teams i've seen in years...or to me the 1st time since i started watching wrestling in 2000 (attitude era)...but again Barrett will see his uprise soon we just have to wait whats instore for the english wrestler...and Damien Sandow...i dont know i mean his gimmick and storyline is a very complicate one...i mean he's more to a Intercontiennt champion at greatest or a tag team if possible this sunday...to me Sandow can rise ratings depending on how the fanbase treat him and therefore see if he ascends or descends

well animes and mangas are store to be different and may present different universes...is like Dragonball manga was more different than anime...and animes tend to show more details of a scene while mangas just a slice of it...like the Garlic Jr saga was only anime no manga...and manga didn't even acknowledge the whole Garlic sitch...and many scene from the great fightings...but mangas tend to omit what animes would show just episodes to relax and see farther inside the development of the character (like Goku fighing in the Other world tournament for example)...but to say much a Manga should at least be the one to present more details since it is a comic series and animes would tend to be more difficult since it is animated and the production can be costly...but again kids nowadays would prefer to see their heroes in the tv than in comics

as the their marriage...hmmm...well many couples when it comes to marriage it comes to the scare of many couples since almost all couples whould wish their marriage would last forver with no erros in their relationship and also not affect their current stance...i'm one of those in doubt to marriage

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-30 07:18:14 +0000 UTC]

Well, HiaC has come and gone and it looks like everything I said in my last message can pretty much go out the window. And at this point, I think I can pretty much say that I'm looking past Survivor Series now and seeing what December's Pay-Per-View has in store. I mean, basically, all the end of Raw showed us was that all Survivor Series is going to consist of is a bunch of HiaC rematches, all in one traditional SS match. So that's three champions (I'm counting Team Hell No as one championship), one match and none of their titles on the line. Talk about the definition of low impact. Basically, this means that CM Punk is essentially getting a bye straight to the December PPV. And HiaC basically was just more proof that they're trying to shoehorn him into a role that just doesn't work for him.

Well, as for manga and anime, well, comparing Sailor Moon to Dragonball is an "apples-to-oranges" argument. After all, when it comes to Sailor Moon, Naoko Takeuchi had basically no creative control over the anime (I think it was mostly because she was so jazzed that a creation of hers was chosen to become an anime that she just didn't care if she signed it away). When it comes to Dragonball, however, Akira Toriyama had almost total creative control. That's why the anime followed the manga so closely. Yes, it was stretched out and yes, there were filler arcs that were anime exclusive. But filler arcs are not uncommon in anime. Since anime usually tells the story faster than the manga does, filler arcs are usually thrown in so that the manga can get its own storylines a little further ahead. Pretty much every anime has done it...Sailor Moon, Dragonball, Bleach, Yu-Gi-Oh. One of the few that hasn't, though, was Fullmetal Alchemist. Unfortunately, the consequence for that was, the anime got ahead of the manga and so the anime had to write their own story for it, which was totally different from the original manga. What resulted was, they had to go back after the manga was finished and do the anime over again. Hence, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

As for Garlic Jr., though, yeah, he was from one of the 13 Dragonball Z anime movies, none of which were in canon with the TV anime or the manga (well, three could ARGUABLY be declared canon, but that's it). So he was chosen as the filler so Akira Toriyama would have a few weeks to get ahead with the Android/Cell Saga.

Well, all marriages have risks, since none is truly perfect. And social networking has become a big enemy of marriages because it can introduce you to someone whom you might think you have an easier time being in a relationship with (believe me, I could tell you stories). But one way is to know what problems you're likely to have before you run into them. Our minister who presided over my brother's wedding deals with his marriages in a very smart way. The bride and groom he's going to marry, before the wedding, he arranges give them marriage counseling ahead of time. It's basically his way of saying, "Okay, this is what you're like and this is what you're like. So given your respective personalities, these are the kinds of problems you're likely going to run into." Basically, his strategy is all about staying ahead of the pitch, knowing what obstacles are the most likely to crop up and how to either avoid them, or deal with them when they come.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-10-31 05:26:07 +0000 UTC]

well it is true in Survivor series it will simply be rematches of HiaC but rather in grouping 5 team which is a tradition in every SS...also as for CMPunk getting a Bye...i may say that they make him hanndover his championship (ie. Ryback) in Survivor Series that is if his team loses he will lose his title and hand it over to his primordial rival...which is Ryback as mentioned...although is only my opinion so i dont know what will WWE do...will they let Punk have a bye and arrrange his title in Armageddon in December (and by far try to reach and surpass the 380 mark Cena fortold him 3 months ago in strait days as WWE champ)...also i also think that Punk's goal is to try to hold on to the title til Royal Rumble and face The Rock and right there show the WWE Universe who's the best in the world...but all said are opinions nd only the WWE knows the futuring scriptures to every wrestler's storyline

to say much many animes are by far very greatly...depending on Dragonball,Sailor Moon,Naturo,Yu-Gi-Oh and many others...all pegged many fanatics and soar ratings...i mean animes always have continuality and is like a novel rather than one epidode acture which is why many peole (including myself) love animes...and mangas are also great...a recent anime i've fell in lvoe is Powerpuff Girls Z...the show is the alternative version of Powerpuff Girls...unlike the american counterpart...the PPGZ have continuality and more mature content (in the anime they are teenagers and not little girls)...another difference is that the girls are powerless and are normal...i would say that PPGZ is like the new Sailor Moon but differencing that it shows guys and more people in the show

and yep Garlic Jr was a filler to be in putting between the end of the Freezer and the Androids saga...though the problem with the filler is that it is not acknowledge in further episodes and is rather like a lost episodes

and oh yeah so true...the new social networks instead of making friends it formakes enemies...to much in social networks one introduces to another and at first start as friendly matter...but as the time goes by it becomes to marginalize and start to see the real person inside which make the two chatters distant...also it has also become a tool to robb the victim of personal belongings and as well as a media point for gang and mafia members...to much is always better to try to protect oneself from suspicious persons in social medias...much like in real life when entering vulnerable zones...always stay alert is a famous saying

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-10-31 17:26:59 +0000 UTC]

Well, they COULD have Punk Drop the title if he loses (although they could expand that to include him losing the title to the wrestler who PINS him). But the realist in me tends to doubt it. And I don't know what's going to happen at Armageddon. All I know is, I'm getting very disappointed in CM Punk these days.

Bear in mind, I'm not saying what I'm saying here because I don't like CM Punk. I'm saying this because I DO. A few months back, at Raw 1000, when the Rock came out and announced that he was going to get a title shot at the Royal Rumble, when the possibility was there for it to be CM Punk, you know I was all for the idea. I mean, hell, I was like, "Forget the Royal Rumble. I want to see the Rock/Punk RIGHT NOW!" But now, all this stuff has happened. We've got Paul Heyman in the mix with all the weaseling and shenanigans and Punk's just become a hollow shell of the guy he was. And the thing is, I don't want to see THIS CM Punk being set up alongside the Rock at the Rumble. How's it gonna look when Punk goes out there, expected to put on one of the best performances of his career (if it's not his BEST performance, it's gonna HAVE to be in the Top 5) and the Rock's just gonna make him look like a bumbling clown? What kind of a main event is that?

Well, I haven't seen PPGZ. Not that I wouldn't mind, of course. But sometimes, given the chance, I'll usually choose either one or the other when it comes to manga or anime, mostly because, if certain ones are so much alike, why get both versions? After all, I've only got so much money to go around and I've got silly little things like food and bills and rent to worry about. In the case of Fullmetal Alchemist, I went with the anime. With One Piece, it's manga all the way.

Well, you mention how filler arcs can become like "lost episodes" to animes. Well, movies can be a lot like that, too. After all, most anime movies really have no tie-in with the canon of the actual series. Again, I cite Dragonball Z as an example. Movies 1, 9 and 13 could CONCEIVABLY be argued as tying in with the canon of the series, but the rest of them clearly do not (mostly because the events of the movies tend to take place when something else is already happening in the canon of the series, or at a point when certain characters are alive who should be dead, or vice versa).

Well, it's true what you say about social media. You really should be wary and know to protect yourself. Don't leave yourself too vulnerable in ANY situation.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-11-01 07:33:09 +0000 UTC]

yep is all true is unknown the future of Punk and his reigning title

well as for the Rock in the rumble...hey titles can change hands at last hour and surprisely...but like you said when the Rock came in Raw 1000 CMPunk was a face and not a heel...then again no one knew he was going to change side in the post 1000 episode as well as him working with Paul Heyman...no one knew that was going to happend...as for the dislike...well i'm not a avid fan of him since i'm neutral in idolizing a wrestler nowadays as no wrestler can outpost my favourite one...Stone Cold...then again his aggorancy and cocky persona has made people hate him even more which is his goal since he cares of himself and not others...well almost every heel is like that...but again Big Show is a heel and is more docile than Punk as a heel...but who knows if maybe just maybe Ziggler cashed in his MiaB before Royal Rumble and he heads on to face the Rock...but at all point in mind the majority of WWE fans mostly wish to see a rematch of The Rock and John Cena...but again it all comes to who has the title...also we don't know if the Rock specificallt said the WWE title or the World Title although it is obvious it is the WWF/E title since he came to Raw and pointed out that specific title

as for the Anime/Manga...hey is the mode nowadays...newer Animes are made and by far are very interesting to see since it deploys more mature content than Western animation...the problem is the difference of settings...and as you mentioned...some are made better as anime while others are better off as manga...how cool is to read a manga magazine of the show at a bus or train and simpyl enjoy seeing the action and drama within

and yep the lsot episodes are very surprising...i mean it is known but still considered lost since it is rarely putted within the popular segments...is like Ed Edd and Eddy...the Season 6 was only 2 episodes and are considred lost episodes since it aired in 2008 and only composed of those 2 specific episodes...a always prefer to put those 2 episoded in season 5 rather than 6 since a season with 2 episodes is just not right and not to acustommed...while the movie marked the ending of the series nearly 3 years ago

that is true about social media...i always be precautions in any suspicious matter and am more private and only add known people and not strangers...then again if an unknown is wanted to be friend the common friends can help me out if is good or a bad person to add...then again we can trust neither our left hand or right hand...which means it is doubtful to be confident of others even if are very close

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-11-08 16:46:56 +0000 UTC]

Well, as I'm sure you already know, Punk is out of the Survivor Series match, having been thrown into a Triple Threat Match against John Cena and Ryback. I wonder if Vince McMahon and others in WWE saw the same thing I did, that putting all those title holders in a match with nothing at stake really had no impact to be had.

Of course, this is no real threat to Punk's title reign, as he did survive that other triple threat match, months ago, against Cena and the Big Show. Still, I stand by what I said about Punk in my last message. I don't want to see THIS CM Punk going up against the Rock at the Royal Rumble. Again, a few months back, when Rock's title match was announced, I felt a lot better about the possibility of him facing Punk, expecting a spirited war of words to take place between the two. But the way Punk is now, the Rock's just gonna make him look like a buffoon.

Honestly, I'm not sure even Punk, himself, is all that happy with the role he's been cast in right now. I mean, what does it say when he's out, doing that whole sorry schtick on the mike and all these shenanigans in the ring, but when he's about to have a match, he still comes out with that playful grin on his face and still shouts, "IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!" right before he comes to the ring? Whenever I see that, it's like he's trying desperately to cling by his fingernails onto the last little piece of himself that's still true.

Speaking of being true, though, I really hope we start seeing more dimensions to Ryback pretty soon if he's going to stay in the main even spotlight for the foreseeable future. I've noticed fans are beginning to chant, "Gold-berg! Gold-berg!" during his matches, indicating that the comparison between the two has not been lost on any of them, either.

Well, some TV shows do have very irregular seasons. Shiaolin Showdown was one such show, where the second season was about twice as long as the first because it grew popular. The third season wasn't very long, either, but that was only because it was the last season and they were wrapping it up. But then, some shows, don't have regular seasons at all. Take Fairly Odd Parents, for example. Does anyone even remember the last time there was a regular season of FOP? It's more like, whenever Butch Hartman manages to crank out a handful of episodes these days, *BAM!*, there you go, that's a new season.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-11-10 02:15:22 +0000 UTC]

well at first i tought that CM Punk was to defend his title in SS group match as his eye target Ryback would be the leading role of Team Foley...but yep it is true McMahon as well as many WWE writers wanted to set off Punk in a different match and therefore defend his title with Ryback and the returning Cena...as of now Team Foley is composed of Kofi Kingston,Team Hell No,Randy orton and obviously Sheamus (since Team Ziggler has Wade Barrett and both have become rivals being both from the British Isles)...also in Ziggler's group besides Barrett are Team Rhodes Scholars and Alberto del Rio...i would have to say that each group of 5 members coincide with the individual rivalrys in between them...there's the Team Hell No and Rhodes Scholars rivalry...Alberto's and Randy's rivalry...but in the looks Ziggler's rival can be Kofi as Barrett's would possibly be Sheamus...then again all can change at last minute

many Survivor series tend to recieve the champion with 4 other members and try to defend his title against the other team...and if the other team wins the team where the champ enters the combat as...the leader of the other team is rewarded the title as a clause...well if i can remember

well for Punk a triple thread match is like an easy match for him since he prefers to stay out of the sidelines and let John cena and Ryback face off badly and when one is weaken...there comes the oportunity of Punk as for cheap shooting the almost vencer of the match and thus gets rewarded the title and didn't do anything...is like some battle royal matches...always a certain superstar tends to hide out of the match and at last minute surprise the supposed winner of the royal and there bounce him/her out of the ring purposely...i sometimes dislike when wrestlers do that kind of cheat...i mean i wish to see a clean fight like the Celebrity Deathmatch referre used to say to the celebrities in the ring...lastly the WWE scriptures try to have a noticeable gag and goofs as well...is not like the before Attitude era when wrestling was a real wrestling...now is like all good guys must win and the bad guys win by cheating or by interference...the win of Big Show against Sheamus was surprising since all bad guys must lose to the good guys if it is a clean fight...then again the WWE has kids watching and most kids see the good guys as heroes and bad guys as villians...but hey is entertaining

and yep Punk has become a kind of a jerk lately...i mena he now hides behind another person (Paul heyman) and won't address the public by his own means and by far in his current state he will clearly lose to the Rock if he is to face Rock in two months..lets jsut see who will enter the Rumble as champion...anything can happend at last minute...i mean even title matches can take place in house events and on raw episodes...so we have too see where far can the WWE CHAMPION belt can go...also if John Cena will enter RR a champion...it will obviously be that JC wins that match against Rock since the Rock only makes cameo apperances in the WWE and prefers to be in the movie world and not in the ring...i mena i like the rock but after he has left the company to pursue the movie business i've downgraded the Rock and like him but he is not my idol wrestler like Steve Austin is...i mean SCSA has made mvies as well as the Rock but never left the people stranded...a real wrestler would make a movie and be still wrestling much like JC has done...i mean i like John Cena is just that like many we just wish a differnet gimmick for JC...i mean his persona is getting preety old...but i think by setting him in different situations like his love hookup with AJ Lee is possibly one of his storylines to make us the WWE Fans with surprises...which to my extent is preety awesome jeje

well CM Punk is like Damien Sandow...he tries to convince the fans true facts but with a villainy acture which is why many fans boo them isntead of cheer...to much when CM Punk was good...he was more like a anti-hero than an actual hero (or in this case a Face-Hell hybrid) much like the new Triple H...and we can not forget that HHH was like an Anti-Hero in the WWE storylines and made us fnas like his gimmick of anti-hero...is like you said that Ryback is like the Goldberg of the 2010's...while CM Punk is like the HHH...and John Cena as The Rock which is why the confrontation between them is like looking itself through a mirror as both are really adored by the fans and most fans just go to see the famous John cena in action

hey you know what...you're absolutely right...when WWE was in Birmingham,England i've heard a rare type of chanting towards Ryback...and it can clearly be said that they said Gold-Berg..let's not forget that the british fans are more retro in supporting...for example they still say Ass-Hole to jerk wrestlers and Holy- S*** as well which is why i love when they chant it since it brings me back memories...but returning to Ryback's story...he like Sheamus and Alberto del Rio has risen to the top quite fastly and now Ryback is really famous in only 3-4 months after his reintroduction in the WWE...but hey that's a storyline for a buff type wrestler...i mean Ryback can be a fairly good bully wrestler if he were a hell...but since he's a face...he has to be a saviour to all weak wrestlers and possibly the runner up wrestler for the company after Cena as both try to defend the other wrestlers and defend the opinions of the fanatics...to much if John Cena and Ryback were a tag team it would be like this...John has the words and Ryback the muscles jeje

well the Fairly Oddparents if i can record it been since 2010 since the last airing of the seires...lets not forget that after the introduction of Poof to the casting of FOP the show made like 30 more episodes and thereafter it has gotten into a hiatus...but like you said Butch Hartman is that type of person who will go to haitus and return from nowhere and pop out new episodes...is like Danny Antonucci the creator of ED EDD EDDY can pop out of nowhere and make new episodes since EEnE is one of the most popular cartoons of Cartoon Network of our time and the last cartoon to be made in the 1990's and still be popular for CN...but between the two the FOP is much closer to renewal season since EEnE was tended to be concluded in a movie and this month it had turned 3 years after it concluded and 4 years after the castings of EEnE made the movie voices...so EEnE is in the same boat as Kim Possible...but there are some reasons for no continuation for some cartoons...while others think of tending to be concluded but they're just in hiatus...both KP and EEnE concluded the storyline as making the Ed's befriends with Kevin and the rest of the kids of the cul-de-sac while in KP they made them graduate the main protagonist and even make supporting characters hook up like the rude Bonnie with the conceded SSJ and even Zita and Felix as well as my favourite pairing of Drakken and Shego...FOP on the other hand hasn't solve a common equality of purpose...for example the episode where Timmy and Trixie hook up and the parents finding out of Timmy's fairies as well as Crocker also finding out the existence of fairies will be by far the last episode of the FOP...much like when Harper found out Alex was a wizard in WOWP but really concluded after Alex got to be the Family Wizard since the main purpose of the show was to see whom of the three would end up with the wizard power

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-11-13 15:07:08 +0000 UTC]

Well, with Sheamus having his hands full with Big Show at SS, he's obviously not going to be part of Team Foley. However, having said that, I think that since they're keeping it a secret until the event itself, Foley's last guy should be someone pretty good.

As for CM Punk and the Triple Threat Match, well, there's no way of knowing what's going to happen. With the Rock looming on the horizon at the Royal Rumble and then Wrestlemania just a few months after, who knows what the landscape is going to be shaped like. Especially since I'm already seeing Wrestlemania ads out there. And it's got three guys on it...John Cena...The Rock...and Brock Lesnar.

Still, again, like I say, I don't want to see THIS CM Punk going up against The Rock at the Rumble. The CM Punk from about four/five months ago, I would have loved to see, because heel or not, this was a CM Punk who could walk the talk, you know what I mean? THIS CM Punk seems to have devolved into that kind of heel who got to the top of the mountain and then suddenly figured he didn't have to DO anything to STAY there. It's like he thinks the whole world owes him something.

I prefer heels who can stand up on their own two feet. You talked about Triple-H before. Well, he was a heel during his first title reign and w2hen that happened, all the critics were saying, "This can't last! He's not World Champion material! The guy won't make through his first PPV!" But Triple-H then went on to have a very impressive title run that first time. More to the point, he won all his matches legitimately, which went a long way to silencing those nagging nay-sayers.

Another such heel right now is the US Champion, Antonio Cesaro. Granted, he's no fan favorite, but there's no denying that in a match, he's very fun to watch. I mean, that guy is just a live grenade every time he's in the ring. He just explodes out there. That's kind of why I'm actually hoping he stays US Champion for a while, because I don't think there's really anyone else at the mid-card level that can carry the title as well as he is, right now. Unfortunately, the down side of that is that BECAUSE Cesaro's so good, it's tough to find someone who can actually give him a good rivalry. Because I mean, let's face it, R-Truth just AIN'T gonna cut it against this guy. Maybe Randy Orton could make a decent rival for him in time, but he's gotta get out of this thing with Alberto Del Rio, first.

Well, I don't know anything about EE&E, but I know KP went into Season 4 because there was an overwhelming fan demand for it...so overwhelming, in fact, that Kim Possible is the only Disney show out there to break through the 65-episode cap and continue on (see, Disney has a clause in all of its TV contracts that a series can only go as far as 65 episodes, max). But because Kim Possible was so popular and that fans were so vocal in bringing her back...well, first the Disney execs all looked at each other and said, "Okay, we've seriously created a monster here". Then they went on and signed creators Bob Schooley and Mark McCorkle to do Season 4. Actually, in an online interview, Schooley and McCorkle said that they wouldn't mind seeing the series go even further, but only if they had a chance to rest and recharge between runs.

As for FOP, well, there's no telling what will happen at this point. I mean, I know about what you're talking about with the events of Wishology (the FOP movie trilogy where everyone found out everything, although they all had their minds wiped at the end). But even more recently, there was a live-action FOP movie where an adult Timmy ends up getting together with Tootie. So, while I'd avoid that movie like the plague (it's REALLY not good), that possibility looms heavy on the horizon, too. As for the shows, the most recent storylines I know of so far have baby Poof going to Fairy school (which his square-shaped, anti-fairy counterpart, Foop, is also attending). They've also both started competing for the affections of another fairy child named Goldie Goldenglow (who, incidentally, is shaped like a triangle^_^).

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-11-13 19:07:03 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah is true i´ve forgot that Sheamus has a rematch clause with Show...yep seeing the reality i do think that there (the WWE officials) are eeping it all secret to see who will be the 5th member of team foley...it is all known is to be a face but hey any susprises can happend there

yeap is true i do think that the rock and brockk lesnar are to be lefted for a special ocassion beyond RR...as for CM Punk winning the SS triple threat match...all depends on the occurence that night...also lest not forget that Ziggler has that MiaB case and can dearly cash it in that night but that would ruin Punk´s achievements to surpass the 380 mark (well in my opinion but for him is to reign more and more days)...to much all is to see what happends in SS

yeap Punk has changed drastically in just 5 months after its change status...i mean now he is somewhat a lower category wrestler having help asistance or just another guy...to me i also dont wish for him vs The Rock...a wrestler cradied to wrestling Rocky has to be one with integridy and full potential no a cheater and crazed CM Punk...to two months to spare there still is an unknown who will wrestle Rocky and it might come out at last hour...also Ziggler is anso not capable to wrestle Rock if he evers gain the Championship via Cashing in his MiaB case at the right moment (for heels when the incumbent champion is unconciouns)...all is to see the comes of Raw more weeks to spare...but JC vs TR is at 70% to be canon so no doubt that match will occured...it is the peoples match of the year (2013) as well as the main event in WM29 is a surpresive one to see to come with you mentioning the Brock Lesnar case before

to say much they´re heels who are respected like Randy Orton for example when he was a heel...now as a face he is still categorized as a heel material for some fans (i´m one of them jeje) while others aren´t...is like an 80% aren´t respected and 20% are respected since even though there heels...they are actualy preety good...winning without any asistance or interference or via disqualification purposely just to keep the title (very common when a heel see no way out of a match)...and yep Triple H was a good example of a heel who fought at ease great...but nowadays there aren´t any left like him and the majority are buffons who are conceded and with no point

well about the swiss guy Antonio Cesaro he is kinda great to watch but to the scripture he´s in a middle category and can even lose to some wrestlers weaker than him...i once told my sister to put AC in Team Punk(later Ziggler) since Miz left...and she told me no way he´s weak...but then agian his persona is a fun to watch and see him patrionizing Switzerland very much and speaking in its 3 official languages...although i kinda miss him with Aksana that pairing was a great one to see...and yep R Truth isn´t too much to beat Antonio Cesaro but again thats the storyline and R Truth wanting to be a US Champion and be the real american holding such title...but like you i also wish too see AC with the title for many months...like Santino´s weekly counting of the intercontinental champion (when he was heel) was hilarious

yeap is thanks to KP that all the newer cartoons are surpassing the 100 episode mark...P&F with 174 (nearly twice the accumulated KP episodes) and even Fish Hooks may be in that line as well...before all cartoons lasted for 2 seasons and maximum up to 65 like you mentioned...but Kim Possible broke that rule and changed DC to a whole new level...and as to what the creators of KP sais i am obviously hoping that can happend...hey we can wait even 20 years for a 5th season (much like the Jetsons waited and Beavis and Butthead 20 and 15 yeears respectivately)...all creators need to rest and make try to make out a newer plotline and series...so hope someday to see the return of KP on TV yayyyyyy

yeah i forgot about the real like FOP movie...but hey all canonship happening in movies and specials can be as a post scripture lie K/R BF/GF status...than again FOP is like a novel series and with Rugrats and Spongebob the only cartoons that have had mad popularity and continuations (well Spongebob there is excluded as all remains the same in that show)

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-11-22 17:43:29 +0000 UTC]

Well, Survivor Series has come and gone. And I've got to say, I'm not entirely sure what's going to happen next.

CM Punk retained his title, mostly because of some NXT guys deciding they suddenly want a piece of Ryback for some reason. Can't say I know what that's all about. Could we be looking at the formation of another Nexus? Personally, I'm kind of hoping not, since I think the only person who can really say that Nexus wasn't a complete waste of his time is Wade Barrett.

Although I have to say, I also kind of think one behind-the-scenes reason Punk's title was retained was because there was a Thanksgiving Day Parade today in Chicago (one of many all over the US) and Punk was signed as one of the headliners for the event. So I get the sense that everyone was like, "You know, he's gonna be a part of this thing, it's his home town. Let's have him go back a champ, not a chump," you know? Because I'm sure you've noticed that's always the way of it, right? You can be the absolutely BIGGEST jackass literally everywhere else in the world. But when you go home, they'll still get up on their feet and chant your name.

The only question now is, what's going to happen for the next PPV? I mean, with Ryback and Cena both seemingly having their hands full, who's going to be Punk's opponent prior to the Royal Rumble? And then with the Rock coming up and the shadow of Brock Lesnar appearing to loom on the horizon, the Etch-A-Sketch is DEFINITELY going to be shaken up a bit between now and the time Wrestlemania rolls around in five months. Because let's face it, as we all know, absolutely everything that happens after the Rumble (even the PPV's) is all about Wrestlemania.

Well, Antonio Cesaro won his match against R-Truth (although let's face it, that was a pretty foregone conclusion, right?). As for how your sister feels about him, well, it sounds to me like your sister's still at that age where if he's a good guy, you cheer him and if he's a bad guy, you boo him. People like you and I, however, I think we're at a point where we kind of look beyond that and try to see the moves being made BEHIND the spotlight.

Well, Phineas and Ferb have broken 100 eps., but they haven't made quite THAT many. Still, I have to say, I'm not really that big a P&F fan. Don't get me wrong, they have extracted an ASTONISHING amount from that little one-dimensional concept the shown is built on. But let's face the facts...if you've seen ONE P&F episode, you've LITERALLY seen them ALL. As for KP, well, it wouldn't be bad to see the series come back to TV. The only problem with that is, since Ricardo Montalban has passed away, Senor Senior Senior will just never sound the same again.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-11-23 00:30:21 +0000 UTC]

well all i´ve gotta say is that Ryback was yet again screwed to win the WWE Title...last month it was Brad Maddox who caused him to lose the match and the oportunity to raise its first title reign...and now three new NXT gyts came and attacked RyBack...i mean Ryback is the pionerr of the real Nexus...those 3 guys are simply amateurs and not the real deal...so i would doubt they form another Nexus group and if they do it will disband really quick becuase of low popularity compared to the 1st or 2nd nexus...also i think that RyBack being screwed twice can implied that CM Punk can loce his title to RyBack and no doubt finish the streak...but again the Vegas wrestler will never try to obtained the title if he gets screwed twice...in HiaC there was no inteference but by the own referee and now in SS three unknwn guys came and yet again screwed RyBack...in less than two months to spare it is still doubtful who will face The Rock and anything can happend even at last minute

i´m still surprised that after many years the Miz has turned face...i never thought he will ever turn face...but to say much CM Punk will at least hold that title to more than 400 days and may lose it either in RR or in WM29...like the unpredictable attack of Maddox and the three guys to Ryback...the scripture always add last minute surprises that no one will ever suspect..that is the whole deal of the WWE entertainment...nothing can be predictable...also for the homenage of Punk in Chicago...lets face it he has brainwashed the people of Chicago literally since that is his hometown and even though one can be a hero or a villian one is always received with open arms...also many people cheer for him since his acture persona is scripted and in reality he is an Icon in Chicago just like Edge is in Toronto John Cena in Boston and the Miz in Cleveland...even the latter when heel was really well received and cheer in Cleveland...but like Punk did last summer in Chi-Town he has to downturn the fans because they`re heels and not faces..and no heel can be friendly to fans or any other character but him or her self...but again outside the ring the heel wrestlers are received more better than inside the ring since they are outside the scenarios but again the wrestler cannot outburst its persona gimmick and pursue still the persona (example Santino Marella with the italian accent even thogu he`s canadian and speaks english)

i´n my opinion i would say that Miz will be Punk´s opponent since now as a fac ehe can not pursue to obtain the title and hey they are both microphome lovers...so that mini rivalry will be a greatly one...but again all depends who will be Punks opponent in armageddon...sorry it is called Tables Ladders and Chairs...is just i´m still acostumed to call it by the former name is like No Mercy for October and No Way Out for the PPV between RR and WM as well as Backlash the one after WM...and King of the Ring in June

also maybe the return of Lesnar can be to face the rock in RR or in WM since he´s a heel and has more to pursue in the WWE business...the directors are holding him pending where to put him at the hot spot moment...which will schoked all us WWE fans...and yep my sister is like that but hey...and yep i´m more a wrestler expert and mostly see the real better wrestler and not amateurs who think theyre at best knowing they need more time to really rise to the top of the foodchain...is like example Rey Mysterio to reality is weak but since he is face and in scriptures the bad guys like Big Show has to lose to the 619 guy...i mean i love to see a real clean fight and not a gifted one which is now happening more commonly in WWE...a reason why my sister hates the good guys...but i dont exagerate very much as her i just like to see new outcomes and personas as well as gimmicks as well as clean equal fights like the wrestling of before...bue even though the WWF/E has changed drastically its style of scripture...it is still beloved and it is very hard to leave it...i mean i love wrestling with all of my heart and dont matter if to see the same thing over and over again

i Have a friend that says that Phineas and Ferb is the same thing over and over and over again..i mean the whole Candace trying to bust the brothers and the objests mysterious dissapears or coincidentially dissapears at the helped of Dr Doofermirsh or Perry as well as the yes yes i am and watchayou doing...all thos same actures are getting annoying...there is no plotline in the show and it is all repeated matters...i stopped watching P&F months from now...like i mentioned in the paragrafh above...WWE can have the same scriptures at every episode but at elast it has sense of humour and taste to one fall in love to stay watching it...while Phineas all one does is lower the quantity of watchers and now only the kids remained at the high cost of watchers...also KP marked the end of real cartoons since after KP all cartoons have become dulled repeatedly and boring to watch...i prefer to watch videos on youtube of hang on facebook or on forums than to watch TV...all i see on TV is sports news and old series cartoons and shows if passed...and yep when i heard that sad news i became sad since i love the SSS character..he was great and his voice actor really made SSS into character...is better to leave KP how it ended...i mean it was a true happy ending for many characters and pairings as well...making a 5th season will make KP succumb and be cacelled a thing DC is trying to evade since many shows have sucumb to become cancelled...but hey at least we can watch it on Youtube and relive our great memories when cartons were really cartons and not the boring things they are today...i mean im stilled surprised that Adventure Time has made 105+ episodes in less than 3 years...105!!!

cmon i think Total Drama is way better than that cartoon of the Fizz and his dog...it has no sense and taste....but again i dont watch cartoons anymre but videos and music as well as going outisde with my friends and datign as well...i´d just dont get the new cartonns anymore

ps: did you hear the sudden death of the Boxer Hector Macho Camacho...he was shot last monday or tuesday in San Juan by two motorists...is a shame that a true legend has die...well that happends when you are part of a delictive group and in bad paths

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-11-27 13:12:32 +0000 UTC]

Well, from what I saw this week, it's looking like these three NXT guys are trying to put together another Nexus...or at least, a bad copy of it. I'm hoping that WWE will be using this as a way to kind of flesh out Ryback and make him a little more dimensional, because I just don't see him as championship material the way he is now. But these NXT guys are just bugging me. It's another pack of wild dogs claiming to be something more than what they are, which is just a gaggle of toadies...because that's the kind of thing that ALWAYS works.

You know, whenever one of these storylines comes around, I always find myself hoping that THIS TIME, the face they're targeting will finally wise up, get a crew of his own together and send a message by beating these guys so badly...so horribly...that no one will ever even consider THINKING about trying something like that again. Because honestly, it just bores me. Because we all know what's going to happen at TLC in a few weeks. We've got Ryback versus Punk in a TLC match and OF COURSE, Larry, Moe and Curly there are gonna show up and interfere. Only now, it's gonna be legal because they're in a match with no rules. There, I just saved you the cost of a PPV.

Well, Miz strikes me as a guy who could turn heel again at any given moment. But for right now, I think we're seeing glimpses of the Miz of old, when he was first making his name in WWE. As for him being a possible rival for CM Punk later on down the line, well, Miz would make an interesting foil for him. We'll have to see. Right now, they're trying to do a lot of things with Dolph Ziggler and I can kind of see why. Yes, he's a MitB winner, but that was months ago. And when it comes to WWE (and let's face it, ALL pro wrestling in general), the business basically runs on seven simple words...

WHAT-HAVE-YOU-DONE-FOR-ME-LATELY-?

That's why they're going out of their way to do a lot of things with Ziggler right now. His Sole Survivor win at SS, this short-lived rivalry with John Cena. It's because everyone knows Ziggler is going to have to cash in his MitB contract soon, and when he does, if he wins (or even if he just screws over a face Champion at the end of a match), they want to show that Ziggler has the stuff to actually hang in a match with the big boys when he gets there.

Yes, I'm one of those guys who sees beyond the personas (or at least, likes too, because some personas just grate on me and I don't want to be bored sitting there listening to them) and tries to look at genuine talent performing in the ring. Take Damien Sandow, for example. He put on a really good show in his match with Sheamus last week...a REALLY good show. It's just, this whole Yuppie gimmick he's on, he won't be able to hang onto it. Because I mean, ask guys other guys who've employed it...Triple-H, The Genius and Matt Striker, just to name a few. It'll play for a little while, but it won't sustain him over the long term and it won't lead to any significant career advancement. Another guy who had a really good showing in a match with Sheamus was Antonio Cesaro just last night. I mean, as soon as I heard that, I was like "Now THERE'S a good pairing". Yeah, it kind of felt like a bit of a cop-out at the end, with Cesaro losing by count-out. But at the same time, I think it was WWE's way of showing respect to Cesaro as well by doing that. Because yeah, Sheamus won the match...but he didn't beat the guy.

And I do agree with you about guys being sent up before they're ready. I mean, hey, that's what UFC did to Brock Lesnar. Because Lesnar really wasn't ready to be a big-time MMA guy. Before the UFC called him up, he'd only won one tournament in Japan because the Japanese wrestling company he was working for (he'd just walked out of WWE and they were the only game in town at the time, so he couldn't go back to them) went belly-up, so he was stuck on the other side of the world with no job and no money (oops). So he entered a popular MMA tournament in Japan and went on to win the thing. And that's what caught UFC President, Dana White's attention, so he called Lesnar up, hoping to cash in on his WWE notoriety.

Thing is, Lesnar wasn't giving White the instant payday he was hoping for. That's why he fast-tracked Lesnar into a Heavyweight Championship match after only two fights (the first of which, Lesnar lost). And he put him in there against Randy Couture, of all people. You know, not to take anything away from Couture, because the buy's a legend in the business, but let's face it. White was putting Lesnar in there against a guy who was practically half his size and twice his age. The only way he WASN'T going to win that fight was if he tripped and fell on his head, walking into the Octagon. After that, every one of Lesnar's fights was won against guys he just bullied around with his size. So as a talent, he never really improved, because he never really needed to.

Now granted, Lesnar had some health issues which required surgery and physical therapy to recover from. But then, he was put into a fight against Alister Overeem. Still riding high from all the small fish he'd defeated in his Division so far, Lesnar was naturally bragging to everyone who'd listen about how he was going to knock Overeem out. What he didn't take into consideration was that Overeem was a guy who was basically the exact same size as he was, so he wasn't going to be like everyone else Lesnar had pushed around. Also, Overeem has been in the business for YEARS and has been a World Champion in every other major MMA promotion, so you can imagine that this is a guy who kinda knows what he's doing. Something he proved quite conclusively when he crushed Lesnar in the very first round of their fight. I think it was that moment that Lesnar realized just how outclassed he really was...and he couldn't take it. And that's why he quit UFC, which I think is kind of a shame. See, I honestly think Lesnar would have made it in the UFC eventually. He just didn't give himself the time he needed to do that.

But getting back to WWE, you mentioned Rey Mysterio before, well, I don't know if he's ever going to get into the World Title hunt again. Because when he won it the first time, it really wasn't so much an indication of Mysterio's ability to flagship the company. It was really as more of a memorial to Eddie Guerrero, who had dies just a few weeks earlier. After all, everyone knows Mysterio and Guerrero were practically joined at the hip. I mean, Mysterio got there and he can be glad for that. But I honestly don't think he'll ever be back up there again.

As for KP, yeah, it was a shame to hear about Ricardo Montalban. I mean, I know he wasn't always available to do the voice of SSS because of his health problems. But my favorite SSS episodes were always the ones he did, because he just owned them. By the way, if you get the chance, check out the original Star Trek episode, "Space Seed", where he makes his first appearance as Khan. You honestly won't believe how built that guy was a young man. He was just HUGE.

But yeah, I can't say I've enjoyed P&F, because it's just the same things over and over again. As for Adventure Time, I haven't really gotten into that, either. I've seen a few episodes, but none of them have set my world on fire. Actually, I think Adventure Time caters to a lot of the same audience as Spongebob Squarepants. It's just kind of like an acid trip for the college crowd.

And yeah, The Total Drama cartoons weren't bad.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-11-30 00:42:50 +0000 UTC]

well is true...is like i said beforehand Ryback is going a little too far to reach the stars...i mean for a wrestler to achieve the top one has to pass though different stages and it seems like Ryback has rise by a ballon help to reach the top for example his goldberg type gimmick made him go to the top really really quickly and for the company it made him lose purposely twice simply because he has a lot more to go though to reach the stars...also i do think that the new type Nexus guys are trying to outpost ex Nexus members by part and are targeting Ryback since he has overreach the top too quick like mentioned...but then again i dont think they will last

well speaking of TLC is true by the fact that all TLC matches are with no rules it is possible that the 3 musketters will the again interfere and beat Ryback but again who knows maybe just maybe a face wrestler will come to the help of Ryback since it is a no rules match the match ends with a pin fall or submission...to me i do think that Ryback will have his back supported if the 3 guys come to hurt the Vegas Wrestler...many of us can predict what happends on any regular show or PPV but WWE always have a trick up its sleeve and detours the predictions of man of us wrestling fans like the occurende of Brad Maddox turnout and the 3 guts apprearing in SS are tho things we fnas never would´ve though it would happend

to much Miz has been for years accustomed to being heel and he is not too familair to be a face and only rests him to act his heel persona with face tactics hybrid...but who knows if the company see his face persona not too shabby he may return to be heel but again Miz is a beginner in being a face and may take him some time to familairze to be a true face persona

Ziggler is a true wrestler who by little by little is ascending to the top and now with his MitB case he has the power to cash it in at any moment but again it is unknown if he will win it but again he is a heel and will cash it in when the champin wrestler is in bad state

yeah some wrestlers can go good into his scripture persona but some overexagerate or isn´t a good actor...i mean in wrestling one must not only know to wrestle but as well as act fairly well and know how to disimulate really good...the problem is that WWE is contracting ungood actors but good wrestlers while there good actors but bad wrestlers...then again it is entertainment but WWE is meant to fight and with no dramas

to say much UFC is much more powerful than WWE...and to much for a WWE or TNA wrestler to be in that said company one mustr really know how to wrestle and show mercy and never give up until KO...to much we have to know that real wrestling is UFC and not WWE or TNA...WWE is entertainment wrestling while UFC is real wrestling or kickboxing as well

ahhh so thats why we haven´t seen lesnar since last summer...hopes he recovers soon...he needs to come back and uprise the standings of WWE publics...also thats is another problem in wrestling one must endure many injuries and outstand them...if not then you cant be in WWE...so many of those wrestlers are true wrestlers since they are not only wrestling for the money but for the love of the wrestling business and even for us the fans

and yep Mysterio has his moent of glorydays and may never return to the top since like you just mentioned it was in dedication to the late Eddie Guerrero in which both were great friends and were one of the greatest rivalries in the WWF/E of the 2000s...to say much if Eddie Guerero weren´t to die the company had more in stake to the great rivalry of Mysterio and Guerrero...who knows maybe buth were to become one of the grestest tag teams in the business and both are chicanos which made both of them coincide in many ways...to much i would have to say that Hunico is a good contender to mysterion in reviving a great rivalry of chicanos like he had with Guerrero but the problem is that Hunico isn´t at that level just yet to rise and become a rival to a veteran that is Mysterio

yeah when hearing Montalvan as SSS his character persona is really meant to see the episode and to me SSS is one of my top 5 favourite villians and to me he outposts Monkey Fist and Duff Killigan simply because he was a true normal villian and not a luantic and crazy...i would have to say that he was behind Drakken and Shego and Motor ED as my top faves...Dementor even though he had very few apperanes he is well recognized and hey he is one of the last two characters to appear in the real finale...mostly becuase he and Drakken are sworn enemies and were meant to sit together to laugh at the UN moment saying that Drakken is better as a god guy rather than a bad guy...also it can be seemd that SSS together with D/S lefted villian life after Graduation altough SSS might´ve lefted after Cupid Effect since maybe jsut maybe SSS has come to boredom to that hobby...frugal lucre is another funny villain and his storyline was more upehard in season 4 than in season 1 where he made 1 appearance and was absent in both season 2 and 3..it can be presumes that FL was risen up the scriptures simply becuase of his funnyness and good pairing to the mockture of Drakken´s prisonlife and even a new mentor for FL

yeah but between Adventure Time and Spongebob i rather thake Spongebob by a landslide since it is more funnier and more desired to be watched...i mean Adventure time is more popular to the kids while spongebob to the kids teens and even adults...you go ask a 9 year old of adventure time the little kid will talk to you all about the show nonstop...AT is more to kids than to the connection to us more adults...and yep we are in common there...that canadian series is really great to be watched but it is better to watch it from beginning to really understand the whole plotline of the series (total drama)

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-12-09 14:29:03 +0000 UTC]

Well, first of all, sorry it's taken so long for me to get back to you. Even though I've been on vacation, it seems all my time has been taken up getting a bunch of other stuff done. Not only did I have a group of pics that I needed to get done (so I could open the door to start work on a pair of new fanfics), but I also had Christmas shopping to do. Not to mention that I still have to finish cleaning my house so I can get my Christmas tree put up. But I've got a few minutes now, so...

Well, circumstances often dictate how things turn out in WWE. Especially now that CM Punk is going to be out of TLC with a knee injury. While the "official" word is that he sustained the injury during the beating he took from Ryback at the end of Raw, my guess is that his knee was already injured and he knew he'd have to take some time off. I find that happens a lot in pro wrestling. When someone is already hurt and needs some time to heal and recover, they usually set up an act where they get pounded on and then say they got injured in the process.

So, Punk gets a bye to the Royal Rumble. I'm not 100% sure how happy I am about that. But with only one PPV in between, if it's a choice between Punk and Ryback to go on to the Rumble, I suppose I'd opt for Punk. While I'm really not fond of his current persona, I think we can both agree that at this point in time, Ryback has absolutely no earthly business stepping into the ring with The Rock in a month and a half.

Although he will be stepping into the ring at TLC with Kane and Daniel Bryan against those three twerps calling themselves "The Shield" now (although personally, I think I'll just stick with calling them "The Shmucks", thank you very much). But that match is pretty much gonna be a gimme. The storyline I'm a little more concerned about is the one Vince McMahon manipulated which features John Cena against Dolph Ziggler for the MitB briefcase. And I'm concerned for a couple of reasons. One, WWE is trying to make Ziggler a big name right now. And two, Cena really doesn't need a MitB contract. So I'm a little worried about how that match is going to end up turning out.

As for Lesnar, well, he had his physical problems when he was still in UFC. He recovered, but he still got thrashed by Alister Overeem not long after. But you know, comparing UFC to pro wrestling is a whole "apples to oranges" thing. But it's not like the two professions aren't completely interchangeable. Guys like Ken Shamrock and Tank Abbott have both gone on to pro wrestling. And of course, Brock Lesnar went on to UFC. But having said that, I don't think Lesnar was really a true believer in MMA. I think he got into it initially because of circumstance and signed on with the UFC for the same reason Dana White signed him...they both just wanted the quick payday. Because it's like I say, I think Lesnar COULD have gone on to be great in UFC. He just never gave himself the time he needed to do that and bring himself up in the business properly. Currently, Dave Batista is pursuing an MMA career right now (his first fight was in October, which he apparently won). Let's just hope he takes a little more time than Lesnar did and pursues this properly.

Actually, I have to say, I really don't find MMA all that appealing. I mean, back in the early days of UFC, Mixed Martial Arts actually WAS Mixed Martial Arts. And that was that anyone of any PURE discipline (Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Jiu Jitsu, Muay Tai, you name it) could participate. But now, the term MMA has taken on a new definition and there's no such thing as a PURE discipline anymore in the business. And that, to me, has kind of taken away from it, because the sport has become so homogenized now that everyone fights exactly the same way. So no matter what kind of fight happens, you don't even know who 90% of these people are because you don't care. I mean, you look at Georges St. Pierre, who is arguably the most popular guy the UFC's got. If he decided to just up and quit tomorrow, Dana White could just pick up the phone and find 10 other guys who fight just like him in less than an hour. And that's really the main part of the problem. I mean, why SHOULD you care who these guys are when everyone is completely interchangeable?

Well, when you talk about villains in Kim Possible, you mentioned the crazy ones. The thing is, in the world of Kim Possible, EVERYONE is more or less crazy. Maybe that's why Shego makes such a logical choice as a villain, because really, the only TRUE crime in this series is any kind of rational thought. SSS and SSJ are definitely the more entertaining villains on the show, although in one of my fanfics, I mention that it's not so much because they're villains...it's because they're IDIOTS. And they still had their fair share of moments in Season 4 (they were both in "The Cupid Effect" and "The Big Job"). As for FL, well, who knows what kind of potential he has.

But yeah, I'm not really into Spongebob or Adventure Time. Yes, the Total Drama shows have a plot, but you do have to see it from the beginning to follow it.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-12-12 02:09:13 +0000 UTC]

no no is ok i'm also very busy thus far since i have Christmas shopping spree because i'm passing it with my family on 24 and on 31 my family comes to visit me...to much decemebr is by far the busiest month of all the months in the year and as well the most expensive one of all...but hey thats life as we know it to surpass december and pass christmas and new years all perfectly and elave all negative occurences and thoughts behing the year about to leave(which is 2012)

to sya much the injury CM Punk has may have to do as you said before the whole Ryback hurling him TLC on him..i mean that injury wont be to happend in that moment unless either Ryback or CM Punk has fained to dodge the pain parts of the body...but i agree with you...also he has to heel that knee although it looks kinda suspicious as the whole knee injury has to happend weeks before RR just so that he can be the one to face The Rock but again all is storyline and it is unknown if it was all Punk's plan or anoter data

as for Ryback to face the Rock...even though Ryback as rise the top in just a very little time he is still far below the Rock's list to be faced..i mean Ryback has not even 6 months since his reintroduction and to me he has to be at least a year to face big names...i mean CM Punk isn't a grand name like The Rock or John Cena...he will always be overshadowed by JC and to the rock the pure underdog...to me Punk will face the Rock...or who knows maybe it will be a triple threat match..then again the Rock said last july that he will face by the way i heard it ONE opponent si i doubt it could be a triple threat match...all is in hands of the WWE staff in seeing the match of the Rock with that time's current champion...also it dosent occur that maybe just maybe the Rock didnt jsut reffered to the WWE title but as well as the world title...i mean he said for the title but specifically maybe he can hint to take the World Title in which Big Show has (or Sheamus if he defeats BS this sunday)..but all this are theories of mines and not ture facts

well we all know the results of the Shield vs Ryback and Team Hell No...by a landslide Ryback and Team Hell No will defeat The Shield or the Shmucks as you call them which is kinda funny for those losers getting their business ina thing not to their concern...as for the Ziggler Cena case...hey Ziggler has been in the business since 2006 and had a rest between 2007-2009 and to much it has been time that Dolph is getting his name on top...but to much facing cena is like i mentioend Ryback vs The Rock...Ziggler is far behind Cena's standards and it will take him a miracle to defeat Johnny boy...or a great distraction so that Dolph can climb the ladder...or another option for him which is the most greatest way to get out of this situation is cashing it in this friday (or today tuesday since it is broadcast today) and there omit the match agaisnt cena...but like you said DZ is trying to get his name uo top and me the next breakout superstar like many medias mention...i mean now Zigger is not seen as a Intercontinental contender but rather as a World champion material...so is a high five for Dolph...and yes John Cena dosen't really need that case since he can get title shots at anytime but again for cena this match is more mrerely a revenge to Ziggler for putting hin in a scandal with AJ and lowering his popularity to becoming a rat and not a true hero

hey that is also the same in wrestling about the MMA...i mean before wrestling was more realer than now...now it is all programmed and is gifted rather than kicking out at the 3 moment...i mean before in the early 90's wrestlers use to kick out and it was after the referee touched the canvas for the 3 count he has defeated but if he kicked out before the hands of the ref touch the canvas he is still saved...now all wrestlers must not kick out at 3 and pretend to be knocked out or jsut give the victory to the winning wrestler...i mean nowadays referees dont know what is to truely ref like the veterna referees...but hey every decade Wrestling and other Wrestling stables or MMA change their standars and turn it to be more to entertainment than realistic...compare a wrestler of the 80's to a now wrestler...man the 80's wrestler will beat the now wrestler without any problem the whole problem is that the company programs for the winner and the victor so there is no surprise to see true wrestling if the results are always predictable without surprises..the future is isntalled with many changes in Wrestling and Martian Arts world which ticks me off

yeah KP villais wren't all that brilliant only Shego and she was always overshadowed by an idiot scientist which turned out to be her pair at the end...but apart of Shego Zorpox and maybe Professor Dementor were key to be the best villains in the series...the Seniors were our entertaining villians(or wannabe bad guys)...to much Kim was very astute to know the weakness of the vilians and their downfall...she reminds me alot of Perry of P&F...he always get trap lets Doofermirtsh talk his evil scheme and later looks a tactic to get out of the trap and then hit the villaidnt to triumph and leave the bad guy to succumb...Kim always had her ways to get out of trouble and made the bad guys succumb to thier own evil plot and the world was saved...but in difference to perry, Kim needs Ron as her key factor to triumph agaisn the bad guys and in the KP world the vilians ae far more brilliant than Doffermistsh...yep even Frugal lucre is more eviler than Doofermirsth...sorry if i get his surname wrong is that im not accoustomed to his surname

to say much i see spongebob but im not obsessed or into the whole show like i was to Kim Possible or Ed Edd and Eddy or even Danny Phantom...now those shows were to me to be into linked and the rest are not to fond for me...i like TV series with plotlines and senses not repeats and same storylines...Total Drama had a sense and plot but adventure time...not so much...also i can see that canadian cartoons have more plotline and sense in the show than american made cartoons...EE&E and TD are canadian cartoons and have a good taste to see it...then again cartoons not made by DC are not to classify which always turn out to be trash and not his...but to much all the 4 cartoons in DC aren't in the level of KP and it will take a miracle for a cartoon to reach KP standards and possible be the sucessor cartoon and the new face of DC which DE FACTO is Phineas and Ferb (i repeat DE FACTO not oficial jeje)

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-12-17 09:21:45 +0000 UTC]

Well, my Christmas shopping is already long done, so I don't have much of a problem with that. Mostly, this week has been all about getting back into the swing of a work schedule, since my vacation is over. At least I got everything I set out to do accomplished.

Well, with TLC done, I guess we'll have to see what happens at the Rumble. Not entirely certain what's going to happen at this point, but I will say this for "The Shmucks". I'm reminded of an old saying, "Raise no more devils than you can lay down." They may have gotten out of TLC, but bear in mind that it's not just Team Hell No and Ryback they've got to watch out for. They've also pissed off Miz and Randy Orton of late as well. And I don't know what to make of anything involving Cena, CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler or the Rock.

Well, as for pro wrestling, realistically, it's best to kind of look at it these days as being as much of a stunt show as it is theater, with a little bit of sports mixed in. As for MMA, like I said, it was far more interesting in its infancy, back when it was people of various martial arts disciplines plying their abilities. But now, it's just become so homogenized and generic. At least with pro wrestling, you KNOW who Triple-H is, you KNOW who Shawn Micheals is, etc. In MMA, everyone fights the exact same way, so what do names matter? I can maybe count on one hand, the ones who actually stand out and that you'd actually remember.

Well, it's true, I prefer shows that have some kind of plotline. Even shows with stand-alone stories like KP and DP, there was at least some development with the characters and the main ones all showed a certain level of growth when their respective shows ended. Like I say, with P&F, granted, they have extracted an astonishing amount of content here. But even though the specifics are different, it's always the same basic thing, show after show after show.

Actually, there are a couple new Disney shows that have caught my eye. Tron: Uprising and Motor City seem to have some intriguing stories. And Randy Cunningham: 9th Grade Ninja is actually pretty amusing. However, since I've only seen a handful of episodes from each of these series, only time will tell if any of these shows develop in the proper ways. RC:9GN isn't showing the same level of linear storytelling as T:U and MC, but I'm sensing a spark there that it might get to that level eventually.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-12-20 10:50:32 +0000 UTC]

but you get to rest at least til wednesday...i work til saturday and close my business til 03 january in where i'll reopen...to say much ive been working double shifting to accumulate for next weeks vacationtime since i havent had a vacation in months and hey these holidays are the best of the year to pass it with family and relatives...and i as well have completed my christmas shopping spree at 90%...only need a little more and full complete

back to the note...to say much i cant say much of the whole storyline of whats occuring in the WWE...i mean yeah the Rock is already promoting to wrestle like he promised in the Rumble...then there's the whole Ziggler-Cena fued as well as the AJ turnaround to heel by betraying JC and a possible faceturn for the famous excuse-me lady...and yeah the Shield is making a statement but now they have Ryback's number by trying to dodge him to achieve higher standard matches....i mean now they go against Team Hell No as well as Ryback but again it is still unknown this rare rivalry...we have to see more episodes to see where is to go for the Feed me more guy and the Scmucks...also Alberto del Rio's face turn is a surprising one to me ans seeing him partnering with the Miz who recently turned face was for me very schoking since im as well as many of us fans used to seeing them heel and acting raw to the wwe universe...but even though they're ggo they still dont receive good responses by the wwe universe especially ADR since of his rich dude gimmick almost similar to JBL's gimmick of millionaire is what impides Alberto to be fully cheered by the crowd while the Miz is 50/50 at cheered...Miz's turnaround reminds me of MVP when he turned good not many accoustomed to the turnaround since he was for years heel and seeing him face is a shocking moment...the same goes for Miz...4 years as a heel and to see him face it will take about 6-12 months to fully support and cheer the Cleveland native

well we all have to know every tactic of wrestling way and/or company has its own rules and norms...i like MMA but im a little more used to entertaining wrestling since real wrestling is for me a little boring since it is more submission holds as well as a taste of UFC on it...when i saw wrestling in the past olympics in london i said what at seeing the true wrestling jeje

yeah thats where the shows go to high expectations...when the character development is at high level it makes it more greatly to watch and the ratings not only get high but at well it makes it to be watched more often...to say much i can watch over and over again the episodes of Kim Possible Danny Phantom and Ed Edd and Eddy and never get tired sicne all these three shows have plotline and great developments compare to nowadyas cartoons it is meant to be watched one time and there one gets tired to watch it...thats where the cartoon producers make an erorr..the tactics are changing it and they dont realise it...but P&F has that problem yeah there may be difference in title for episodes but at the end it all ends the same and to say much it has turned out to become a show too down rated...i'm an avid fan of cartoons but i have to discard some new cartoons like P&F and Adventure Time since the setting and productions is totally different to the older cartoons...to me Fish Hooks may the the only cartoon who at far has a 50/50 to a cartoon made before 2008 and at far makes me laugh and even watch it again if it is a very good episode...but the problem is that it concentrates in animals or in this case fishes rathen than human beings

to say much i'm not a fanatic of Disney XD but the original...here in Ecuador when Jetix was at the mode...it was more appreciated than Disney or at far tied at the two best channels or segments of Disney Channel...it had so great programmings

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TuxedAaron In reply to DS4ever [2012-12-20 15:23:09 +0000 UTC]

Well, I don;t really take vacation time around Christmas for a couple of reasons. One, the head office doesn't really like it all that much (they have a hard enough time finding people to work the holidays as it is without everyone cashing in vacation hours). Also, if I did that, they probably would have made me work New Year's Eve. And I don't like working New Year's Eve (hate dealing with all the drunks). Not to mention the fact that it's unnecessary. Since my regular days off are Sunday/Monday, I've got Christmas Eve off already, so I can spend Christmas with the family during the day. And I've got New Year's Eve off, so I'm happy about that, too (believe me, I work too many New Year's Eves as it is).

Well, I suppose you're right that with the way things are going in WWE right now, we're going to have to wait a couple of weeks to see how things really develop. It's way too early to see where things are going in any of the storylines right now...especially in Cena's case, now that we've apparently got ANOTHER NXT guy running around causing trouble. I will say about the Slammy Awards, I was kind of a little disappointed with some of the wins, but I guess that's the price we pay for having the winners be decided by the fans alone.

I mean, okay, if I was still 10 years old (like when I first got into pro wrestling), then, yeah, I probably would have voted for Ryback as Newcomer of the year. But as someone who now views the business with a cold eye and looks outside the storylines and personas, I have to stand with Antonio Cesaro. Because hey, let's face it...he WAS robbed. Cesaro not only became Intercontinental Champion, but has also held it for most of the year and quite frankly, carries it well. Ryback, on the other hand, spent most of 2012 just tossing around nobodies and really only got inserted into the main event picture because John Cena was out with that injury (you'll notice the "Goldberg!" chants have started getting louder during his matches, too). I don't care that Cesaro's objections landed him in a match with Ryback that he ended up walking out of, because I thought that kind of thing was undignified and wholly unworthy of him. But having said that, I kind of think that Cesaro should maybe start thinking about spending at least a couple of weeks out of the ring, if for no other reason than just to give that right hand of his a chance to heal properly. Seems like every time I see the poor guy now, he's just got more bandages and tape on that thing.

One guy that I think has gotten people especially confused right now is Miz. These last couple of tag matches he's been in against OMB, while not exactly high impact, I think have got some people thinking that he's still on the fence as to whether he's a heel or a face yet. I mean, sure, bringing in Tommy Dreamer as a mystery partner on Raw was a nice little PR boost for him. But in these last two matches on the other side, he's also been partnering with Alberto Del Rio, which I'm sure has had a lot of fans scratching their heads and going, "Huuuuuuuuuh?"

Well, amateur wrestling translates over more effectively to MMA than to professional wrestling. When you compare amateur wrestling to pro, it's really and "apples and oranges" kind of thing. MMA guys, on the other hand, use amateur wrestling as a template for takedown moves and submission holds. Now granted, you've got Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar who've made phenomenal transitions, going from amateur wrestling to pro. But even though I would say of the two, Angle has been far more successful overall, there really hasn't been anyone else to make that leap.

Well, I have heard from a couple of my friends that Adventure Time has made some developments in its overall structure. For one thing, I guess one of the more recent episodes reveals the past of the Ice King and how he was actually a scientist who was one of the few original humans to survive when the earth was destroyed and became the Land of Ooo. Apparently, it's the crown he wears that gives him his powers. It's also what makes him insane, but he can never bear to take it off because if he's ever freed of his insanity, all he has is the unbearable reality that he survived the catastrophe...but his wife didn't. Having said that, though, I agree with you that shows like KP and DP are far more watchable because of how they gradually develop over time.

As for Disney XD, I'm not a huge fan of it, either. I mean, I like that it's got Gargoyles (even if they only air it in the middle of the night). And like I say, some of the other animated shows are pretty good. But it's programming is pretty thin overall, limited to mostly tween sitcoms, which I've never cared for.

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DS4ever In reply to TuxedAaron [2012-12-22 08:33:14 +0000 UTC]

to tell you the truth to me it is more necessary to vacation on New Years eve since by tradition of family as well in my country the most celebrated time of the year is 31 (december) since it is the end of a year and a start of a new one...and trust me here that day is of the worst in where drunks behave of the worst in some occasions..but is like amy say one must know how to drink and drink slowly and not too fast...i last year didint had my job business so in difference i had to work 24 and 31 by bad luck...but i evaded to work 31 by saying that i caught a cold by disfortune (which was a lie)...but it is true MANY try to evade to work 24 and 31 since majority want to pass it with their respective families...but hey if one has a job one is to experience switch schedules as well as holiday working

about the slammy's..that is to occur to have a active choosing...i always liked the random WWE choosing instead of the WWE universe since the WWE Fans dont choose quite orderly or greatly...but hey what else can we do...when Ryback was nominated twice it was obvious he was going to win them since he has had a solid uprising of fans ever since he has came back to WWE...it is also possible that John Cena may have a new rival within Fanatics since both are cheered at equal...who knows maybe both will collide in Wrestlemania to decide who is truely the fan's saviour

is lie i said above...that all had to do to igive the power to the WWE Universe...to me Antonio Cesaro was truely the Newcomer of the Year...i mean he came the same way Sheamus came back 3 years ago...and you're right about Cesaro walking out on Ryback...to me Ryback is unstoppable and the only heel who can outpost and smart Ryback is Big Show...i meanif he defeated Sheamus who is more powerful than Ryback that he does have the chance to succumb the People's newcomer *fingers crouching*...but Cesaro also has the chance to make Ryback lose but is like the WWE dosne't want him to be lower just yet...to me i think that the WWE has a special assigment instore for him...after all one whi uprises quickly can be lowered quickly and then he will be unremembered...i for one dislike Ryback...no offense but he is kind of annoying...but hey what else can we do...is part of the storyline and quite frankly he is involucrated in it...and yeap i've also heard the Goldberg chants towards Ryback...who know maybe thats why some fans like him because he may be the next Goldberg...but in difference to goldberg, Ryback has uprise too much and exagerated...but hey thats wrestling entertainment...i also wonder why won't the WWE even mentioned Goldberg...is it becuase he is in another wrestling stable... becuase if a wrestler is in another company he is kayfabe dead in the WWE company until that wrestler leaves the other company and has re-sign with WWE which was the cae of Ric Flair who when he was in TNA he was unmentioned in WWE...although when he was re-inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame this year as a founding member of the Four horsemen he was still in TNA or was maybe in a limbo between assigments with TNA and no job...that case will be unknown..and yeap Cesaro does have to take some time off but maybe is the company who dosen't want to give him some time off

to me and for many fans out there Miz and ADR are two types of faces that are not ruely for us full-faces...i mean they are more pegged to be heels than faces...also a transaction from a heel to face turn is much more difficult than a face to heel turn...one turning from face to heel is very easy but from heel to face is more difficult since the wrestler must get the full confidence and support of the fans...lets remember that heels tend to insult and dislike fan support which in this case Miz has been for years and ADR case for being a foreigner and has downslide the chemistry of the fans with his rich guy persona (same case like JBL's)...but i would say that it would take tese two wrestlers 3 months to fully become faces and make a name of themselves to the wwe universe...if the transaction dosen't work...then they go back being heels..or have their categories lowered down more...well that's what i think..lets never forget MVP's case froma heel to face turn..it took him 3 months to assimilate to the crowd his full face turn as well as Khali's and Ted Dibiase's jr overturns

yeah i think youre right Pro and amateur is like apples and oranges...and a special case is Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar...and to say much Kurt Angles is what made famous the amateur wrestling since many people tend to look forward pro wrestling insted of amateur...but if one looks closely both are preety alike in some cases...just that one tend to be more predictable and enterteining (pro) and amateur more realistic and surprising...the same goes for MMA

well i have also heard of some chareacters of Adventure Time...even though i havent seen any episode i have known some and yes it is true the Ice King is one i've heard and i never knew that story of the Ice King...but hey if a animated series tends to be more continuating and development with the majority of the characters...then it can urpise its rankings...the plotline has to be at best to be one of the best animated series...to much i would have to say that Adventure Time is the ambassador cartoon of nowadays for CN while for Disney is Phineas and for Nick it is still Spongebob...to much Adventure Time is the sucessor fo Ed Edd and Eddy who have held being the ambassador cartoon of CN for nearly 11 years (1999-2009)...while for Disney it was Kim Possible from 2002-2007...for Nick i would have to say Rugrats was the ambassador before Spongebob outpost them in 99...at13 years Spongebob is still more alvie than ever but in difference to Kim Possible and EE&E it hans't reached more development but less to be just watch and to have laughter to the comedy of the series...Spongebob is more to comedic than develop to a real series...EE&E is a 50/50 of Kim Possible and Spongebob but more developed than spongebob...take them transsacting from summer to autumn and continuations...but for me Danny Phantom is my top favourite cartoon of Nick even if it only reached 53 episodes..it is still respected at best

the show shown between Disney XD of Latin America and the States can be differencing but at msot it is still the same...take the sitcoms you jsut mentioned...here they dont show those sitcomes but rather more cartoons in their timeslots...it is said in Latin AMerica that Disney XD is the disney with all cartoons and Disney Channel the one with full sitcoms..i as a kid was a avid fan of cartoons but now i have assimilated to watch more sitcoms than cartoons simply because the cartoons aren't like before and hey the nowadays sitcoms are kinda more funnier and developed than the bofore sitcoms...i think the family sitcoms are the new IN of society

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