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Tzoli β Modified Bismarck class Battleship
Published: 2013-08-13 21:09:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 12960; Favourites: 80; Downloads: 125
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sharlin asked me to draw 3 alternative warships for him to use in an alternative universe board.This is the second one, a slightly modified Bismarck with 3 triple 40,6cm Cannons instead of 4 twin 38cm ones
Basically the regular version of this:
tzoli.deviantart.com/art/Tirpiβ¦
Edit: Removed the aft secondary gun I've placed earlier and moved theentire superstructure and main guns towards the middle of the ship. Thus this given more stability for the ship and less stress on the hull.
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Though it is a never-were paper ship, it makes much more sense than the original. Now, if you could replace the 150mm and 105mm with some 128mm dual purpose weapons, she would indeed be a powerful vessel.
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It's actually a Hypothetical design, though we don't know what kind of variants were considered for the Bismarck class when under development as those papers seems to be lost during the war.
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As far as I know, Kriegsmarine always wanted twin turrets, medium artillery and heavy Flak. There were even variants with 150mm in casemates. In my opinion, the final configuration was a bad solution. Triple turrets would have saved weight and a dual purpose 128mm gun in real turrets would be the better solution than the 150/105mm combination.
Air defense was good on the paper. But the 105mm guns were unarmored and they had ammo elevators separated from the mount. While a good gun, the crew was totally exposed to the elements and enemy fire.
Though the Germans correctly saw the need of a medium AAA, the 37mm was not well-stabilized and was manually loaded, drastically limiting the effectiveness. 20mm single mounts were also totally exposed and had not fire control whatsoever.
Bismarck's rear was weakly constructed and too narrow, allowing the fatal torpedo hit to hamper her movements. While the torpedo hit to the side was easily shrugged off due to the powerful belt armor there, the
rudder was jammed by a humble light torpedo. A wider stern, four screws and rudders aligned with the screws would have resulted in better performance there.
That the bow was lightly armored is also a mystery for me. Either, they could have armored it more heavily or not at all. Unarmored, Prince of Wales shell could have penetrated the prow and do negligible damage. The 60mm armor allowed the shell to be slowed and explode, ripping apart fuel tanks, losing a lot of range.
So I think that your design with triples would be a step in the right direction.
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The choice between twins and triple are more like weight and survivability choices for most navies. If you have a 8 guns in 4 or 9 guns in 3 turret losing one would mean losing 1/4th or 1/3rd the total firepower losing another one and you have 4 / 2 VS 3 /1
The Belt armour have nothing to do with torpedo defence, that is the purpose of the Bulkheads and bulges, Belt does not go much below the waterline
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I really love this triple turreted Bismarck battleship. One question though. Are 40,6cm triple turrets based on real design studies (did Germans really designed 40,6cm or 38cm triple turret - at least on paper) or is it "never-were" design? I know Germans had 15cm triple turrets , design for triple 20,3cm turrets and triple 28,3cm turrets but I never heard of triple 38cm/40,6cm/42cm turrets. And let's not forget "Wargaming ship design bureau" triple 40,6cm/42cm turrets for German tier 10 battleship in World of Warships. Keep up the good work - you have some of the best battleship designs out there. Best regards.
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It's a complete hypothetical design. Not even never-were.
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Well in my humble opinion it would look even better (it still looks nice though) with 4th triple turret in the aft. With 4 triple turrets it would be sort of "German Montana".
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The german Iowa! 
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Hey, what if...
A KGV class battleship is sailing near to this thing. An english reckon plane spots the germans... and mistakes this 16-inch gunned BB for an 11-inch gunned Scharnhorst!
The KGV would move in for what should be an easy kill (like what happened when HMS Duke of York met KMS Scharnhorst), only to end up under a rain of 16 inch shells. Epic fail!
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oh Tzoli, I can alreadyΒ tell thatΒ you are going to have fun when east vs west comes out.
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oh. WELL AREN'T YOU JUST FUCKING SPECIAL NOW HUH!? Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β
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take the full force of my furious emoticon salvo!
oh, and the tower of pimps.
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lol
It's not like I am able to put every ship class I want buuut...
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tower of pimps class.
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I swear, when the demo of EvW gets released, the fist thing i'm gonna do, is mod in a ship for the demo country (AKA theΒ USA... hey hey hey) and make my flagship the USS Tower Of Pimps.
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...yep, too much achievement hunter- lets play minecraft in too little time.
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ya know, I've just thought of an awesome futuristic name for a ship: Technomechanical
sounds awesome huh?
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magitechnomechanicasuckitthisnameiscooler Β Β
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that's not what she said. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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oh, any hints as to when the next DD is set to come out? I read all 7 current ones in like 20 minutes. dammit I need more!
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....you have dishonored me.... PREPARE TO DIE!!!!
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You want to face the Fleet Admiral of Newer-Weres???
I command ships that existed far before your idea in your parents are ever considered!!!
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"You want to face the Fleet Admiral of Newer-Weres???
I command ships that existed far before your idea in your parents are ever considered!!!"
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more likeΒ Fleet Admiral of Newer underwears. Β
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ships? the SS neko-panties and and SS moe moe kyun kyun don't count! Β Β Β Β
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Do you have any brain cells left?
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I've been watching too much let's play: minecraft. so probably not
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XD
Watch some Happy Tree Friends!
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hey what time is it right now in hungary? it's just after 6 AM here in west coast USA.
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just armor the rudder and look out for Swordfish torpedo bombers lol.
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Started working on the Derfflinger:
tzoli.deviantart.com/art/Moderβ¦
I know you said I should use the Deutchland's superstructure but the Bismarck's is more appealing for a battlecruiser then a big gun cruiser's.
Also shall I move the 3rd turret aft a bit and give more space or stay where it is now?
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Only the Derrflinger remains!
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