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I feel the time is right to upload this now.Nothing to over the top or too dramatic, just the basic simple red hood design and just a few things.
I changed the pants and gave him a more durable leg Armour and changed the helmet around, this is more more
beat up goons on the street mode, less tactical.
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greatwhiteshark1993 [2022-04-05 05:52:52 +0000 UTC]
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umbatman In reply to greatwhiteshark1993 [2022-04-05 06:10:17 +0000 UTC]
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greatwhiteshark1993 In reply to umbatman [2022-04-05 06:11:41 +0000 UTC]
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TheBlckHood [2018-04-17 23:25:09 +0000 UTC]
Fox: The Actual Reason Jason Todd took the name Red Hood...
He didnt need to change the Letter on his custom made Jackets
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ItinerantDjuradhan [2018-04-17 18:40:35 +0000 UTC]
Nice design. Understated, yet intimidating. Well done.
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frederickofolympus [2018-04-17 07:58:31 +0000 UTC]
I like it, it's less flashy yet practical. Two thumbs up!
Speaking of DC characters, i know that you might not be into Superman or his supporting characters but how would you redesign his costume? Am asking this because BMB (Brian Michael Bendis) will be writing Superman after Action Comics 100 and it is reported that the classic red circus strongman shorts will be brought back.Β
My design idea would be to have the cape be inserted into the S shield and make the S shield more prominent and embossed like a literal chest plate shield to hold the cape and then use the red belt design of New 52 Superman and out some design on the boots, as someone told me that the classic boots look too simplistic for a supposed alien being. A bit like Superman Eradicator without the dark streaks on his costume and the yellow glasses and maybe keep the Jim Lee neck collar look to complete the whole design.
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umbatman In reply to frederickofolympus [2018-04-18 12:59:20 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the nice comment, I don't think you noticed but I am a Batman fan, lol.
I don't know much about supermans design to make changes that I would like.
I would make him more cyber netic and sci fi.
I am not sure If i will do it anytime soon unless it was a commision, I have other projects and commissions
so I am busy.
But I have taken into account your ideas I could do it, LatΒ er.
Thank you for the comment
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frederickofolympus In reply to umbatman [2018-04-18 13:49:38 +0000 UTC]
Here is the Eradicator Superman costume design:Β external.fmnl4-1.fna.fbcdn.netβ¦
Jim Lee New 52 design:Β orig00.deviantart.net/05e9/f/2β¦
Justice Lord Superman:Β orig00.deviantart.net/e47d/f/2β¦
Batman Beyond Superman:Β orig00.deviantart.net/944d/f/2β¦
The way i see it, if you combine certain design elements from each of these Superman costume designs then you'll get to have an "idealized" design of the character that's relevant and contemporary for this day and age and also eliminates that grandpa superhero trope and all of his Golden and Sliver Age goofiness.
All great character concepts and designs must evolve for them to remain relevant and if other characters like Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman and Batman have evolved with the times then why not the very first superhero right? I really think it's about time and the character really deserves that.
Am not proposing to evolve his costume design just for the sake of change but rather to further reflect the character's roots and concepts and make the costume design tasteful and more suited to this day and age. I'd like to maintain the elements that make sense and that are synonymous to the character like his S shield, his spitcurl, his color scheme and eliminate all the stuff that's goofy, illogical and problematic.
Him being an ICONIC character and most artists and creatives having this reverence and not wanting to tamper with his classic look just because it's "sacrilegious" to do so is utter nonsense. To not evolve the character and his mythos will only stagnate him in the long run and push him further into irrelevance. The simple fact is the trunks or briefs just look STUPID and GOOFY. I don't give a damn about fanboy excuses of "real men wear trunks".Β That's just utter nonsense in my opinion.
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umbatman In reply to frederickofolympus [2018-04-19 04:08:23 +0000 UTC]
I don't know how respond to so much a long comment.
I have never gotten two big (massive) comments like these, SO i guess its very personal to you regarding superman.
Yes i did some research the other day regarding supermans suit designs.
I came across alot of things I didn't know and alot of well image searching and
Design research.
Yes I was thinking that I would do something like the New 52 version, that to me seemed to make the most sense,
I have seen the batman beyond superman and the other versions you have mentioned, those are good for cartoons.
Your right about the character needing to change , not just the suit to best fit the times.
I see your very avid superman fan. Yes he was designed based of the strong man era, and he at the beginning could only leap over tall buildings witha single bound.
My design would be like the NEW 52, but i would add my own graphical shape or shape ideations designs.
Supermans design is kept simple as its to attract kids at a young age, they don't understand all the fancy hi-tech designs, they see something cool and thats it...
regarding my design choices, I don't think you have seen before but i did a red hood and a death stroke before, I keep the
character grounded and more functional. SO i guess I will do simple superman designs first and some rough sketches, i thought of a few.
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frederickofolympus In reply to umbatman [2018-04-19 10:31:20 +0000 UTC]
What am getting at is that maybe i felt bad for Superman. You could say i felt some sympathy for the character because while his contemporaries have evolved and even Diana Prince has evolved via her own movie last year, i've felt that Superman overall hasn't and i found it unfair since without him there won't be a superhero comicbook industry to begin with and Stan Lee and Jack Kirby won't be able to create the whole Marvel comicbook universe and by extension Kevin Feige's MCU.
My current faves in terms of superheroes are Richard Grayson AKA Nightwing, William "Billy" Batson AKA Shazam, Diana Prince AKA Wonder Woman (It's all because of the movie and yes, Gal Gadot IS Wonder Woman, critics be damned) Alexander Summers AKA Havok (I always found Scott to be stiff and boring) and Michael Holt AKA Mr. Terrific.
I guess for me DC is the essence of superheroes. Gods and goddesses and men and women who stand with the gods. MARVEL to me is humans who try to be heroes despite their flaws and both are a good thing. I like mythology, particularly Greek, Roman and Norse that's why i don't get it when they say that DC's characters are boring because they are "GODS" and MARVEL characters are much cooler because they are flawed and relatable. Pffttttt! Hogwash! A good character is a good character no matter what the packaging may be and it's the writer that defines the character.
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frederickofolympus In reply to umbatman [2018-04-19 10:03:48 +0000 UTC]
Sorry about the longwinded and passionate posts. I guess the thought of Superman being around for 80 years and his Action Comics reaching the 1000 issue milestone got to me. His contemporaries like Captain America, Batman and Wonder Woman evolved with the times thru the movies while him still stuck with the "your grandfather's superhero" schtick doesn't sit well with me. And Wonder Woman and Cap being more popular now than Supes? Never thought that would happen but you get the point.
I used to adore Superman as a character once. The Richard Donner movies and Christopher Reeves portraying the Man Of Steel splendidly does that to you. (God bless his soul. May he rest in peace) Those movies were magical, in particular the first two, despite campy and corny things like Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor or the fact that Superman reversing the Earth's axis to revive Lois Lane and the amnesia kiss that he gave her in the second movie. It was all magical to an eight year old boy like me at that time. I never liked the Superfriends cartoon nor his own solo cartoons by Funimation so as you can see, my love for the character wasn't always there. Just the Dick Donner movies, the Superboy tv series in the late 80's and Lois and Clark The New Adventures of Superman. I never liked Smallville since i don't like CW teen drama like Roswell or Dawson's Creek.
I loved the Tim Burton Batman movies, the rest i could care less. Michael Keaton was not who i imagine as Bruce Wayne in my head but he got Batman's angst and inner turmoil down pat. But Chris Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy? That was something different altogether. Those movies blew everyone's minds.
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frederickofolympus In reply to umbatman [2018-04-18 13:29:42 +0000 UTC]
I know and am sorry about asking that i just was curious as to why most people keep calling him your grandpa's superhero and i'd like to hear a different take from non Superman fans since a fan would have a very "how should i put it"...uhmmmm... biased opinion on the character and i came to the conclusion that maybe it's not because of his boy scout very 50's America attitude that's the MAIN reason but more to do with his costume design being DATED to the circus P.T. Barnum era. I know that some artists like Alex Ross would like to respect the intent of Joseph Shuster, the original artist of Superman and i think that it is said in numerous articles about him and Jerry Siegel the writer and co creator of Superman that they based his design on gladiators and circus strongmen. Superman was wearing gladiator type sandals in the very first issue of Action Comics in 1938 and the red boots was one of the modifications among others, like his S shield and it's standardized color scheme of red and yellow and giving him powers of flight, super strength and his super senses. In his first appearance he could only "leap tall buildings in a single bound" and ram thru doors and that's it. I think that his well known superpowers such as flight, super strength, invulnerability and super senses were only added later because of the Max Fleischer cartoons and of Captain Marvel aka SHAZAM.
I was thinking of combining the Eradicator Superman design from the Reign Of Supermen storyline and Jim Lee's New 52 look. The eradicator Superman had the cape go into the S shield with the symbol becoming embossed and more like a literal chest shield and i like that element since the tucked in cape look just looks GOOFY and very juvenile and it defies a lot of logic and physics. The Jim Lee New 52 look has the sci fi cybernetic look that you stated but has removed the red trunks and made the belt red and he has that neck collar look. I do like the Zack Snyder concept of his suit being Kryptonian undershirt or body armor to eliminate all that Golden and Silver Age goofy nonsense about Martha Kent sewing his costume from his blanket of Kryptonian flag or the El family crest and further reinforcing the idea that his suit is made of alien fabric that is impervious to most earth based material and weaponry.
I think the reason why Batman has the black trunks is because of Superman's success back then in the Golden Age and the fact that they could only use fewer colors at that time but Batman doesn't seem to have the grandpa's superhero stigma attached to him that Superman seems to apparently have and maybe it's because his design is more functional and well thought out and most of the things that are in his costume like his cape, cowl, his arm gauntlets and his utility belt are all weapons that can be used and black and grey is much more cooler than primary red, blue and yellow.
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umbatman In reply to frederickofolympus [2018-04-19 04:11:19 +0000 UTC]
I thought of the same thing the eradicator cape and symbole and elements of the new 52 design.
Batman is another beast, He in the concept world can have so many changes, he can adapt with the times.
The black underwear was to break up the shapes and colors, and also it worked for superman at the time
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frederickofolympus In reply to umbatman [2018-04-19 10:19:35 +0000 UTC]
With regards to redesigning Superman's costume, yes i can see your point. If we make his suit too hi tech or alien looking it will alienate his fanbase. Maybe a mixture of classic design elements sprinkled with some practical functionality like your Red Hood character design.
Regarding my info on Superman's roots, lately i've been watching documentaries on how the Golden Age characters came to be, like Superman, Batman, Captain America, Shazam and Wonder Woman and i was amazed at what i discovered. Particularly with the HULU documentary BATMAN AND BILL, which am sure you must have seen by now. How Bob Kane was a weasel of a human being who denied his co creator Bill Finger, the one that defined the Batman character and his overall mythos and refined Bob's initial concept drawing for Batman his deserved due and credit and Bill died poor and lonely while Bob died filthy rich and i emphasize the word "filthy" on this one. How Jerome Siegel and Joel Shuster were each paid by DC 65 dollars for Superman's character rights and how their names were removed from the creator byline until Neal Adams launched a campaign to pressure DC to subsidize both creators because of the impending release of SUPERMAN THE MOVIE. How Wonder Woman was an idea by DC publisher Milton Gaines to create a female character for little girls so the character was not presented and developed by William Moulton Marston but rather it came to be because the publisher wanted a female heroine for young girls. How FAWCETT COMICS's SHAZAM (Captain Marvel at the time) had this heated lawsuit with DC only for them to sell the character to DC at the onset of the 50's. Stuff like that is interesting, particularly when you uncover that behind a great character is a NOT SO GREAT SECRET.
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umbatman In reply to frederickofolympus [2018-04-23 11:41:20 +0000 UTC]
i heard about bill finger, he actually designed batman to look more brooding and dark and made alot of changes to batman that we to this day love, I don't know much about bob kane to say t much
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frederickofolympus In reply to umbatman [2018-04-24 00:39:44 +0000 UTC]
Let's just say that Bob used Bill to get the fame and status that Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster had acquired initially when National Publications (DC Comics) published their character SUPERMAN. He didn't create BATMAN out of a noble gesture of giving to this world a wonderful creation. NO. He did that because he heard how much Siegel and Shuster got weekly for their Superman creation, which was quite a large amount of money at that time. And from what i can gather with various accounts and the HULU Batman and Bill documentary, Bob was a very shrewd and cruel person with regards to Bill Finger in that he presented the Batman concept as HIS OWN CREATION to DC and for the rest of their lives, Bill died lonely, penniless and poor while Bob died "filthy rich". I mean, as a creative yourself would you believe right away that one person was able to create a concept that has stood for almost eight decades such as BATMAN all by himself? Sounds too good to be true right? And it is.
It was only during the screening of Batman v Superman that the heirs of Bill Finger have successfully managed to get his name on the credits as co creator. So that's how it goes.
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