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Ben 10,000 married Kai and have a son name Kenneth TennysonSpanner revealed that Kai And Ben will be together when they are older
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KittyzKajunz [2014-11-28 03:17:28 +0000 UTC]
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Ship wars. Seriously? -_-
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Xenomaster [2014-10-28 09:33:51 +0000 UTC]
I was hoping Ben would end up with Ester, but at least he didn't end up with Julie
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DiegoSmilodon In reply to AncientWonder [2014-10-25 19:24:47 +0000 UTC]
Fight at the Museum. And pardon me, but I think Kai is much better for Ben than Julie. Julie s kinda boring and she is to easy to get. No challenge. But Kai, kai is a really hot-blooded native-american beauty. They were MEANT to be together. It is no coincidence that they were chosen by the directors in the very beggining. They will stay together. Because they HAVE a future. Just as Ben has the Omnitrix, and he can't lose it. It is in the Original storyline. Just look at the picture! Aren't they look happy and cute together? Also, Kenny was MEANT to be born as they child, soh e could travell back in time later and save Ben.
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AncientWonder In reply to DiegoSmilodon [2014-10-27 17:54:23 +0000 UTC]
i just finished watching the ep and
if that ball thing had never gone missing kai and ben would have never spent so much time looking for it together and never grown close then kenny would have never been born but that dosnt mean my mind has changed about kai so i still think the same (that kai is very annoying) i still dont really like kai but i accept that ben married her so that kenny could be born
and just like ben said in this ep "kai is nothing but a pain in the butt that ben has known sense he was 10"
but id still rather take any girl over kai the hole reason i even liked julie is because i was just glad to see ben date a girl that is not annoying and mean and when i saw julie i hoped that that future was gone but i guess not ohh welll
man i find kai so annoying
but i guess ben dose look happy so good for him
*sigh*but i can be happy thinking that in parallel universe where that ball thing dosn't go missing i bet he marry Julie
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DiegoSmilodon In reply to AncientWonder [2014-10-28 10:50:14 +0000 UTC]
Umm Hello... Julie has another boyfriend now that blonde photographer guy remember? And it was julie who break up with ben in a really rude style. She was the one who is really annoying and mean. She doesn't care about ben anymore, no matter what he does. But as you could see, Kai DOES care about ben She gave him and his friends a V.I.P tour. And tried to teach him. With less success tho. But I believe Ben still loves her deep inside and so does Kai too. I mean.. haven't you seen lovers before? They always fight at the beginning but later they always realise they love each other. And Kai is definitely the perfect girl for Ben. I can't wait to see them offically together later.
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AncientWonder [2014-10-25 19:01:43 +0000 UTC]
ohh man i kind
of know this was coming but
i wanted ben to marry julie
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Darinas In reply to AncientWonder [2014-10-27 11:52:38 +0000 UTC]
While I do not ship Benlie, I would have preferred Ben to marry Julie as well. At least she is a more interesting and appealing character than Kai.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 09:34:30 +0000 UTC]
Really? Ever since the Flame Keeper's Circle, I've always hated Julie
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 10:19:55 +0000 UTC]
Yeaaaaaaah I don't get why people hate her just because of this episode. I mean, she appeared many times before and after to make a better impression, and even in Flame Keeper's Circle, all she did was enter a group she had no way of knowing was worshipping her boyfriend's arch-enemy. And she changed her mind as soon as she learnt his true identity. Granted, the episode could have been written better, but really, I don't feel what she does in this episode justifies hating her as a character, ESPECIALLY when there have been other characters doing much worse over the course of the franchise (like Nemesis committing homicide, Charmcaster selling a thousand souls to Diagon, Harrangue supporting the Inkursean invasion or Ben turning Harrangue into an alien with no remorse whatsoever).
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 10:34:23 +0000 UTC]
Well, I can see the antagonists get their comeuppance or doing bad things for their own purposes. Charmcaster did what she did to get her father back. Harrangue's punishment was fitting since he is what he pretty much hated about Ben.
Julie on the other hand... She joined the Circle because she wanted to make the world a better place with alien tech. Something that the Plumbers forbid because they know what they are talking about. Some technology may not be safe to use on earth, or someone could try and take over. Ben is the only exception because he proved he can use the omnitrix safely.
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 10:51:49 +0000 UTC]
Nah, you don't get it. What bothers me isn' that Harrangue was turned into an alien; it's that BEN of all people did it. This just feel unheroic and morally questionable. He could have just brought HArrangue to justice or inflicted a harmless punishment, like when he wrecked his car in UA. Turning him into an alien might have been played for laught, but in real life that would be completely f*cked up.
Oh, yeah, clearly the Plumbers know what they are talking about. What with them stating they "can't afford to waste their ressource on Earth" to even investigate when there is an alien invasion going on. Or not even moving the little finger when some asshole alien warlord threatens to blow up Earth just because one of its inhabitants won't marry his daughter. Or having a Black Op branch they can't be bothered to actually stop before five years has past when they have been working on infanticide. Clearly the Plumbers are flawless and reliable..... hem. Sorry, got off-topic here. As you can see, I am not a big fan of the Plumbers^^'
Still, my point is, the Plumbers have shown several times they weren't all that reliable and as you pointed out yourself Ben is made an exception, so you can't blame Julie for having doubt. Again, the problem in this episode was with how the plot was handled, not with Julie's character herself: it was a flaw she only shew in one episode to be never seen again. Hence why I don't feel this justifies hating her.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 11:27:05 +0000 UTC]
Well if a despicable man kept ranting that you were a menace with no proof, I would be testy too. besides, his ratings went through the roof when he became an alien! (like how they dropped when he routed for the Incursions over Ben.)
There are bigger threats than alien criminals on earth, ya know. they do have alliances with other races that can be shakey at best. The Tetramands were just defending their tradition while Kevin just scammed the Tetramand equivalent of president out of an engine for his car. The Rooters were a rank so high that Servantis only responds to the Majestrata, leader of the Plumbers. A job that has to look over the whole universe!
What about in Eye of the Beholder? Julie wants to help Baz-El and calls Ben out on not helping the "total weasel" that:
A. Tried to repossess Ship because he wants to be credit when it came to the Highbreed's defeat.
B. did so by hiring the Vreedle Brothers, two space hicks that are known to be violent, stupid, reckless and trigger-happy.
C. and did all of this after giving him away!
Even when Ben comes to help, Julie STILL tells him to shove it! even when he literally travels millions of miles across space to help in a situation that said weasel got himself into, she still gets mad at him.
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 11:42:11 +0000 UTC]
I am pretty sure Ben didn't intend to improve his ratings. And no matter how mad he was, that DOESN'T justify doing it. Comedic Sociopathy just doesn't fit with Ben.
Who's talking about alien criminals on Earth? The Highbreed were a friggin ALIEN INVASION! And Gihill couldn't even be bothered with investigating to check what the heroes were saying? WHAT THE HECK?!! In real life, when someone comes to declare a crime, the police HAS to investigate just in case, that's the reason reporting a fake crime is punishable by the law! There is no "we can't afford to waste our ressources on investigation" crap! And really, assuming the Tetramands were in the right, you are gonna let them wipe out an ENTIRE PLANET for this? No attempt to negociate with them, or something? Where is that galactic code from Vengeance of Vilgax when you actually need it?
Also, for the Rooters, here is a funny thing about Black Ops: in real life, when an Black Op does something wrong, it's the person they answer to who is supposed to take the blame. Realistically the Magistrata should have been the one to be fired for what happened, not them. Obviously the writers didn't do research before writing that plot.
As for Eye of the Beholder, well.... yeah, Ben kinda IS supposed to help him. That's the sort of things heroes do. I am honestly shocked by the idea Ben would consider not doing it. Also, it's been a while I saw this episode, but I don't think that was the reason she was mad after him toward the end. If anything she had plenty of reasons to be mad at him considering in UA Ben started acting like a dick (even though it was still nothing compared to how he acted in Omniverse).
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 12:07:16 +0000 UTC]
What Ben did was small potatoes compared to Will neatly killing all of Undertown! Ben just did the equivalent of doodling on someone's face with permanent marker.
To be fair, in AF, the Plumbers were supposed to be retired, missing or dead. you can't blame them on that one. as for the incident with Looma and Gar Redwind, blame Kevin! he was the one who broke his promise to marry someone which lead to that. plus negotiations couldn't be easy with a warrior race. military forces on some planets aren't the same as on earth, I don't think the plumbers act like law officials on this planet.
Would Ben help Simian? both he and Baz-El fall under the same category. would you help someone if they tried doing something that brought harm to you? you would be hesitant too!
…I kinda noticed something
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 12:47:02 +0000 UTC]
Obviously you don't realize the implications changing someone's race brings on the table.
No. They were supposed to be all of this in the ORIGINAL SERIES; in Alien Force it's pretty clear they are still active and working. And trust me, I don't deny Kevin was to blame for this crap happening; I blame the Plumbers for not interfering or attempt to make things better. Even assuming Plumber law isn't in application in Tetramand territory, that doesn't justify them attacking and threatening to destroy a planet that clearly IS under Plumber protection; do you think french army and police would stand and do nothing if americans suddenly arrived and threatened to bomb our entire country just because one french jackass wouldn't agree to marry an american girl he promised he would? Well, this is about just as stupid.
Simian tried to sell an entire planet to nazi-like invaders without concern for the thousand of dead it would causes. All Baz-L did was try to take back something that no longer was his using two morons he didn't know where destructive morons. Petty, but pretty harmless on the large scale of things. So yeah, in my opinion there IS a difference. And even then, I don't think I would dare let someone die if I had the power to save him, even if the guy is an asshole. I just feel this would be wrong.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 12:53:54 +0000 UTC]
I would love to become something non-human!
To be fair, firing on a race that makes near indestructible vehicles and are incredibly strong is (Octagon impression) what you may call a powder keg ready to blow sky high
Who knows what Baz-El did over the years. he could've stolen from various races or might've done what you may call illegal activities
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 13:02:11 +0000 UTC]
..... Okay, I won't deny, so would I^^ But try to compare Harrangue's situation to characters with similar treatment who got played tragically. Clayface, for example. Or to stick with Ben 10, Albedo and Master Kundo.
That would still be better than let them blow up a friggin' PLANET, leaving thousands of people to die in the process, all over some stupid wedding problem.
O come on, now you are just going in theories.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 13:08:08 +0000 UTC]
Yes, two villains that deserved their punishments
Yes it would be better for the human race to die slowly in terror instead of a quick explosion
He said he did that kind of thing all the time!
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 13:17:33 +0000 UTC]
No, not really. Albedo became a villain BECAUSE he wanted to get out of his condition, he did nothing to deserve it in the first place. And even if he did, weither he deserved it or not is subjective: point is both of those villains had their fate treated seriously as something tragic (except for Albedo being turned into a kid but that's an entire different story). And anyway, Ben is a hero, not a judge: he should not be the one to decide what is the right punishment for his villains. Otherwise what's the point of having a court in-universe?
Yeah because clearly the Plumbers couldn't do things such as try to negociate a more peaceful solution or defeat the Tetramand fleet. And don't give me that indestructible engine crap again: Kevin's car has one and it still gets wrecked all the time. Those engine allow to easily repair the vehicles, it doesn't make them outright indestructible.
That's still not as bad as selling a planet to space nazi.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 13:24:20 +0000 UTC]
Albedo was still egotistical about himself being superior to Azmuth, got into his perdicament because of his ego and the reason he stayed in that form was because of Azmuth, not Ben. Kundo was turned into a cyborg, not a species change
Ok, you got me there. But Julie was still wrong about the Diagon
Simian still failed and it may be possible that Baz-El didn't get the chance do do so yet
This sounds like a hero/anti-hero debate
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 13:32:51 +0000 UTC]
Kunda was turned into a cyborg when he hates cyborgs; that's just as bad. And yes, Albedo got trapt in his state by Azmuth after this, but even then his situation was played seriously. It was played as a prank with Harrangue. And that's bad.
Of course she was wrong. I never denied this. I even think she was INTENDED to be wrong by the writers. But I just don't feel this is enough reason to hate her.
True, but we are getting into theories now. Baz-L might have destroyed an entire galaxy, Ben wouldn't know that when he had to decide weither to help him or not.
True. Now don't get me wrong: I like a good anti-hero like anybody else. But Ben is supposed to be a straight hero as far as I am concerned; even at his most mischevious, he is genuinely heroic. So I don't expect him to do things like leaving people to die just because they are dick or turn people into aliens as pranks (at least not permanantly).
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 13:41:45 +0000 UTC]
Harrangue was playing a part in mass-murder, he's lucky to still have appendages.
And to hammer it in: an incursion destroyed his homeworld with Azmuth's sword
Think of it this way: if Ben helped Argit every time he screwed up, he would get sick of it really fast
Since when did he leave someone to die?!
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 13:50:45 +0000 UTC]
Fair enough. But they should still have gone with handing him over to the authorities. Also as much as I hate take this guy's defense: he didn't realize it was a genocide. He thought they wanted to turn all aliens into humans. Frankly, it's less the fact that he was turned into an alien that bothers me, and more the fact it was done on purpose by Ben.
.... True, but what does the Ascalon incident has to do with all of this?
True; but he would still do it if Argit's life was one the line.
He never did but you want him to do it apparently. You think those aliens who captured Baz-L intended to make him pay collateral damages with credits?
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 13:55:16 +0000 UTC]
Time was of the essence, it was that or let undertown die
to prove that Julie is in the wrong mindset (i like being redundant sometimes)
When Argit can turn off his own pulse?
He got himself into that mess!
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 14:13:31 +0000 UTC]
... I guess so.
O, okay. Well you don't need to prove me that. I am denying this dooming the character as despicable, not the fact she was wrong.
So ?
Again, so?
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 14:16:29 +0000 UTC]
cool
Plus Ben has a good track record for peace. one time he prevented war with Rath
for both points: sometimes people get what they deserve
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 15:36:11 +0000 UTC]
for all three points: I don't see what this has to do with our subjects
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 16:40:55 +0000 UTC]
This is the code to say you are out of arguments I guess.
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 17:37:40 +0000 UTC]
Several times less than Kai Green.
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 18:04:00 +0000 UTC]
Well, Julie has a more likable personnality. She likes Ben as himself yet isn't freaked out by his powers, she managed to stick with him for an impressive time considering how obnoxious he had started to act toward the end, and she was supportive toward him in hard times. Kai appeared for one episode in the Original Series where she was an unlikable bitch who wanted to have Ben has a pet, and in Omniverse from what I saw of her she is an unlikable bitch with a typical belligerent sexual tension toward Ben. Not to mention her native american background is inaccurate and poorly used. Overall, Julie is just a more appealing character to me. The ONLY good thing about Kai is that she mothered Ken, and even that isn't a big deal unless you really care about Ken's skin color.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 18:11:47 +0000 UTC]
Well, to me Julie's a bit*h and I preferred Ester
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 18:40:50 +0000 UTC]
Matter of taste I guess. I personally prefer Julie but I can understand you liking Esther.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 19:27:04 +0000 UTC]
well, the bottom line is that he ends up with Kai
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 20:07:38 +0000 UTC]
XD let's not get mad over it. We can disagree on something and still be in good terms.
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 20:10:41 +0000 UTC]
At least you don't think Goku can beat Superman
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 20:15:51 +0000 UTC]
Actually, I used to. Now I am not sure who would win. But I still prefer Superman to Goku by far.
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 20:21:32 +0000 UTC]
Just out of curiosity, why do you think he would win?
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Xenomaster In reply to Darinas [2014-10-28 20:28:39 +0000 UTC]
Goku would not be able to exploit weaknesses due to his need to have a fair fight
Goku breaks any limit he has, but die to the nature of Superman's powers, he has no limit
Superman can survive in space, Goku cannot
Superman always holds back
A common reply is that "Goku would destroy the sun" but that fails due to the following:
Goku would need unbelievable power to destroy the sun
If he did, Superman would still have a charge, even if it didn't go supernova which may give his a supercharge
Everyone on earth would die if he did that
There are several other factors, such as Superman being able to lobotomise Goku if he wanted too
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 20:37:08 +0000 UTC]
O, I see you saw Death Battle too^^ That was what made me doubt Goku could defeat Superman after all. Pretty good episode by the way.
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 20:42:24 +0000 UTC]
Thing is, I used to think Goku was stronger because he has displayed the ability to destroy planet- something Superman never did. But then again, Superman never displayed this ability because, well, he is Superman and wouldn't do such a thing. And Death Battle made a good job at analyzing.
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Darinas In reply to Xenomaster [2014-10-28 21:36:02 +0000 UTC]
Why ? Not that I particularly like him, mind you. I am just wondering
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