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Published: 2017-10-09 19:34:25 +0000 UTC; Views: 710; Favourites: 58; Downloads: 0
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Anyways, hope you can read it haha. This just basically a small lil doodle to introduce the new characters. The current leaders meeting this new cat, this new leader. Ummm SpeckleStar is leader of Scorch Clan, GoldenStar is leader of Ash Clan, and SableStar is leader of Mist Clan. So, yep
Lol SpeckleStar is not amused. The other leaders aren't either but they aren't as hot headed is SpeckleStar and know to not take things lightly specially when a new clan means, less territory and more competition
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to Feleathion [2017-10-14 00:34:56 +0000 UTC]
Haha thank you! :3
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to ScatteredEmbers [2017-10-14 00:35:13 +0000 UTC]
:0 thanks!!! :3c
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Dragons-Fan [2017-10-13 14:56:12 +0000 UTC]
I know this feelinggggg I'm making a story with a friend and made a blind leader and everytime I post them I'm like "Who's going to ask this now" xDDD
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to Dragons-Fan [2017-10-13 15:30:40 +0000 UTC]
I don't mind people asking :3 gives me an excuse to talk about my character XD I just couldn't really reply before because I was on low battery and also, I didn't know this was the first post they were seeing of my characters, so it makes sense they were confused lol.
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Amcd42 [2017-10-10 06:10:08 +0000 UTC]
Whoah... A blind leader?.. Isn't that a little... dangerous?..
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to Amcd42 [2017-10-13 04:11:05 +0000 UTC]
I never thought so. A leader most of the time leads with orders. Often times it is the deputy who assigns patrols and day to day things. The leader can be a figure head that's there for moral support. Sure, a leader is expected to fight since it has 9 lives, but that doesn't mean it has to. He is also very smart, so he can come up with intelligent tactics and such. There may be problems in the forest, but it's not a war zone. Besides, his deputy is pretty diligent.
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Amcd42 In reply to Vampireghosteyesvc [2017-10-14 09:02:44 +0000 UTC]
Hm.. I never thought of that, I mean I know blind people usually have better hearing and other senses, but I just imagine being blind being a problem for a clan leader, like easily getting lost, and bumping into things, or being a bad hunter...
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to Amcd42 [2017-10-14 14:20:53 +0000 UTC]
Yup, he doesn't hunt or anything like that. His clan relies mostly on his decision making rather than his contribution in hunting or patrolling. Due to the background of his Warriors, SmallStar knows that have the capability of deciding and taking action in their own. He will mostly allow them to move as they wish though he does have final say.
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to Vampireghosteyesvc [2017-10-14 14:29:46 +0000 UTC]
Lol whoops, srry for any spelling errors XD
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AnimalCartoons In reply to Vampireghosteyesvc [2017-10-13 05:15:17 +0000 UTC]
Im confused as well since your argument seems to dismiss itself. The blind leader would need to be a warrior who had trained an apprentice--something thats, well, pretty impossible without an insane amount of touching which I don't think any apprentice would be alright with (just the over abundance of touching, none of that creepy shit). Then a deputy and then they'd acquire the position of leader so unless your AU has different steps I...yeah. I don't understand your logic.
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Pawses In reply to AnimalCartoons [2017-10-13 17:29:34 +0000 UTC]
i mean, most cats blind from birth can actually hunt decently if they know the area really well. not to mention, a blind cat could still probably teach an apprentice.. the other cat can still see the blind mentor, and copy their moves well. just because they can't see doesn't mean they can't function with hearing, feeling and other senses
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AnimalCartoons In reply to Pawses [2017-10-13 18:23:28 +0000 UTC]
It was cannonly proven with Jayfeather just how dangerous a blind apprentice can be. They cannot see their mentor and it takes a long ass time to learn terrain that changes every few moons from serious weather. Yes they can scent and feel and hear and, yes, when anything is deprived of one sense the others tend to compensate for it but it is still very dangerous. The wind blowing in the wrong direction could hide the scent of a predator or enemy patrol. They can't know where dangerous objects within their territory are because they can't see--evidenced by how Jaypaw got stuck in a bramble bush during a fight. They cannot properly defend themselves, even in an open area, again evidenced by Jayfeather when he was attacked by Brokenstar and Breezepelt at the Moon Pool. He couldn't see nor predict where his enemy would dodge his countermoves because he could not see them.
If they couldn't BE trained properly then they can't be trusted TO train the future of the clan properly. Also, I never said it was definitively impossible but was 'pretty impossible' which would be compared to highly improbable. I also did make mention of the fact that they would need to touch their apprentice to be able to train them and that I didn't think any apprentice would be OK with that since it would have to be such a high amount of contact. Not to mention that SEEING someone do something and then them physically doing it are two very different things. It was shown with training sessions with a multitude of apprentices that the mentor would SPOT the misstep they were taking and then correct their form--usually verbally, sometimes by example and rarely by physical contact. You could argue that for hunting practice you could hear if they were stepping too hard, hear their tail swishing and I'd give a nod to that but what about battle training? Theres no slow movements, it is all fast paced and done visually. The mentor could be bested by their apprentice because they wouldn't be able to see what they were doing, where they were heading, correct them on any visual cues the apprentice was giving about where they would attack (lessons taught from Bluestar to Firepaw for reference).
A blind warrior really isn't possible, a blind deputy really isn't possible, a blind apprentice is a danger to themselves and everyone around them. This is why Longtail, a young warrior, retired so early when he lost his sight. This is why Jaypaw, who was hellbent on becoming a warrior, gave in to his destiny to become a medicine cat.
Let me clarify a brief thing: this is all based off of canon evidence, I'm now aware that Vampireghosteyesvc AU universe revolves around different rules/traditions.
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to AnimalCartoons [2017-10-14 00:55:30 +0000 UTC]
Okay here I am :3 Alright, so I'm not sure if you read the other post but if not that's okay, I'll try to summarize the best I can without typing too much :3
This clan, SmallStar's clan, is a very new clan (in the story). It is made up of rogues and loners brought together. SmallStar was never a clan born kit/apprentice/warrior/deputy. He went straight to leader. His deputy is RobinWing. SmallStar and RobinWing knew each other since kits so they are both very close and trust each other a lot. SmallStar is very smart but because he is blind, he mostly stays inside the camp.
RobinWing is the deputy and he manages day to day things such as patrols. SmallStar will sometimes arrange patrols that as well though (specially much later when his knowledge on his clan mates starts to increase). Bigger decisions such going to war are approved by SmallStar, though of course, there is input from his deputy, medicine cat, and warriors.
Because this clan is compromised of former rouges and loners, the figure of a leader isn't as important to them as it is to other clans, but because SmallStar is intelligent, they will often listen to his suggestions anyways. They all know how to conduct themselves, they don't necessarily need SmallStar for that, but what he does is tie them together. Since he does stay in camp a lot, he spends a lot of time getting to know his clan mates, figuring out what they are like, what they are good at and what they aren't. He will listen to their findings during their days out and their opinions in order to help him make decisions.
RobinWing (his deputy) and ThistleWatcher (his medicine cat) are very observant cats which is why SmallStar liked them for their positions and will often rely the most on them for input on his warriors and what they are like.
SmallStar speaks on their behalf of his warriors to the other leaders. The times he does go outside, RobinWing will always stay by his side despite how many other warriors may be accompanying them. His extra lives are also an insurance in case for some reason he is separated from his clan mates and is killed or dies. It is true that the 9 lives are given to leaders so that they may use them (mostly) to fight and defend, but SmallStar's warriors don't feel the need to let a leader (a single cat) fight for them because of their background. In a way, this clan is a bit more democratic than all the others.
If you have more questions or want me to elaborate more on something, I'll be glad to :3
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AnimalCartoons In reply to Vampireghosteyesvc [2017-10-14 13:44:51 +0000 UTC]
I did, actually, read it. At the bottom of my post i put a disclaimer stating what i spoke abiut was based off of canon knowledge and that i understood that your AU revolved around different traditions
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to AnimalCartoons [2017-10-14 14:18:08 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I read that too :3 in my story the clans follow the same basic rules, except this clan in particular due to the nature of its creation lol Though it's not something that is accepted easily in the story, specially by the other leaders. They have, ahem, similar concerns that you've also mentioned haha
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to Pawses [2017-10-14 00:55:56 +0000 UTC]
Haha thanks for the comment though :3
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to AnimalCartoons [2017-10-13 05:20:59 +0000 UTC]
Boop
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Vampireghosteyesvc In reply to AnimalCartoons [2017-10-13 05:18:04 +0000 UTC]
Oh, lol no yeah this clan is different. I have post where all the leaders are there and a bit of info about the clan. Fire Clan, which is his clan is different. It's a very new clan (in the story) that consists of rogues. Also yeah srry my responses aren't very detailed. There's a lot of info and my battery is low haha
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