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"I might be a villain but I'm not a tyrant..." Chrysalis----------------------------------------------
Warning : This comic is direct sequel of "To Love God - To Love Mortal" vavacung.deviantart.com/galler…
And sharing universe and timeline with Crazy Future and Chaos Future vavacung.deviantart.com/galler…
English Editor : dracoblair.deviantart.com/
My Patreon : www.patreon.com/vavacung?ty=h
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Perhaps... Our job is to overcome this.
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they attacked, the prejudiced to them is 1/2 justified
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Grey morality. My favorite.
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never heard of grey morality before, what does it mean?
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Basically nothing is black n white. None is absolutely right
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Now that we know changelings are plant/pony/anything that fell into the toxic pool hybryd, we can speculate that they multiply like plants. Chrysalis can probably produce seeds that will grow new changelings. Because Chrysalis was born from tree we can tell she is mostly a plant lifeform and because when Celestia made her into an emental she didn't die. Even her crown thing looks like pistils and mane like petals. Lot of fanfics write her like insect, but she realy is plant. Even the thing with love works. Lots of plants grow better when you show them love.
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ha she just shut all the ponies down with that one
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There sure is a lot of drama.
I like that :3
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Cadence used provocation. It's super effective... Unfortunately
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Auch... Cadance.. you touched a nerve... Back away slowly before Chrysalis go into berserker mode.
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As much as I agree with what Chrysalis said, her plan to harvest the love was very complicated and not really that stealthy. It would probably have worked better if they snuck disguised as somepony as sucked the love without physically getting involved. Besides that, I do agree with her.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y6CYH…
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It's a good video and does potentially explain a few things, but I still think it would have gone better if they went in via stealth and took in the good emotions through the ceremony and bachelor party. (Though watching that video does make me wonder again how they got blown away by the thing they claim to use as a life source for their hive.)
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that's the Power Of Love
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Is it wrong to feel bad for those changelings parents and their unborn foal?
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No, it's not. Changelings are parasites, not monsters. They don't deserve this.
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A hypocritical illinformed intolerant that jumps to prejudiced conclusions and refuses to listen to/dismisses opposing opinions. Cadence is the founder of the Equestrian Tea Party isn't she? Remember she can also literally force her opinion of love and pairings on anypony through mind control.
To answer all those that say, "they should have just asked for love" have you not noticed how intolerant ponies, (especially the upper class Canterlot unicorns) are of non pony races? 3 mules, 1 zebra, 1 griffin, and 1 dragon, (hatched from a stolen egg)... thats it, (and thats not getting into what they do to clearly sentient livestock). Add to this the seemingly willing ignorance of changeling internal politics and biology with it's ramifications by even royality. I wouldn't be suprised if, "leave them to starve themselves into extinction" was the policy even before the wedding invasion.
(I know in this fanon Twilight's Ponyville kingdom is more tolerant but I'm talking about main and show Equestria).
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It definitely wasn't policy since it was canonically established that the Canterlot Wedding was the first time they'd encountered changelings.
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To be fair, taking love seems to put a large strain on the pony losing it. Shining Armor wasn't exactly healthy after that love loss from Chrysalis. Regarding the other stuff, Zecora just happens to be the only Zebra in Equestria because Equestria isn't their native land. The same goes for Griffins, considering otherwise we would see at least a few in Cloudsdale. This also applies to dragons to an extent, as Spike is the only dragon raised by ponies, he's the only one without dragon behavior. The behavior of caring about no one other than yourself that is. There are tons of dragons, just most of them are elsewhere because they don't like ponies. And it is NEVER stated that the egg had been stolen. As for the sentient livestock (cows in this case) it should be noted that in real life cows produce milk in excess, and being milked is actually good for them, since otherwise they get some pretty bad swelling. I lived on a farm for 4 years, so you can't try to tell me that isn't true.
Also, you are just LOOKING for controversy with that tea party statement aren't you? I won't give my political opinion regarding it but I will say that this is not the place to make that kind of remark.
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1.What we saw Chryalsis use on Shining Armour was a combination of love drain and mind control. Even so he was able to carry out his royal guard duties and continuely cast the Canterlot wide shield spell the only determental effect being short headaches, (which Chyralsis actually helps him with in order to maintain her cover).
2.We've never seen any other Zebras or Griffins anywhere else in Equestria. Either these species don't practice tourism or Equestrian ponies are, "highly selective", (ie: prejudice) about who they let in and or settle, (Zecora was probably only allowed in because of her potion skills). They certainly don't care about building on the land of and thus disrupting the lives/customs of other species, (eg: Appeloosa was knowingly built on Buffalo land and the founders didn't care at all).
3.Spike is only a dragon in a physical sense, he has essentially been brainwashed to be a kind, well spoken fax machine that doesn't mind being ignored and or belittled most of the time, (Secret of My Excess implies this pony like nature is what is stopping him from physically growing which can't be good for his long term health). As for his origins I agree with NellzDaBlackKing that his egg being stolen is the most likely scenario and thus provide a good secondary reason for dragon hatred towards Equestrian ponies.
4.I meant they will kill them for leather and possibly export the meat and horns.
5.If you consider having and stating a simple opinion based on illinformed prejudice based politics simularities.
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Alright, you've got me no the mind control thing, but your racism theory is still a little off base. First, you're just assuming stuff about them not being allowed in. It's been showed a number of times that other species don't care for the friendship focused social structure of Equestria, and also that other species don't have access to magic. I don't know about you, but if another country had normal people who could levitate me things with their brains, I'd be fairly cautious about visiting. In Appaloosa, it was actually just Rainbowdash and Applejack who were angry about it, and incited the chaos. The representatives of both Appaloosa and the Buffaloes seemed more than willing to negotiate, despite having been at each other's throats before knowing the reasons as to why the other was doing what they were doing. Also, the entire episode was social commentary about what happened to the Native Americans, just like the first two episodes of season 5 were obviously commentary on various forms of socialism, such as communism (but much more aimed towards Stallinism, where everyone is equal except the leader.) As for Spike's egg, I see it as just as likely that the egg was just abandoned, otherwise I don't see Celestia being okay with having it lying around waiting for a prospective student to make it hatch. Calling Spike a glorified fax machine is also incredibly disrespectful to his character. As for killing the cows, that is incredibly unlikely considering the fact that every single mention of meat in the show is replaced by something else. Everyone in Equestria is vegetarian because ponies are herbivores. Also, little known fact, horses and ponies are not the same thing. Ponies are small, horses are not. (Sick of that stupid conspiracy theory that no one ages in Equestria.) I don't see them killing the cows because they never killed any other obstacle that stood before them. (Except maybe Sombra, but they really had no choice there, considering he literally removed ponies from existence for 1000 years when they let him live the last time.) Look, if you're going to say everyone in the tea party is prejudiced, that's actually being prejudice yourself.
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1.I never said the racism was the show writers's intent just how it came across to me in a read between the lines way.
2.I never said that the aforementioned racism was the only reason for the lack of minorities just one of them.
3.If the main six weren't there the buffaloes and Appaloosan founders would still have been at each other's throats and the resolution wasn't good ither given the Appaloosans basically bribed the buffaloes to forget their land rights. So there was already a strong prejudice/entitlement complex.
4.Watch the series from the start objectively. Spike is treated in the manner described, (laughed at and a glorified fax machine) also note none of the other dragons encontered have the same letter delivery breath, modification by Celestia? Celestia likely kept his egg in status till her manipulations had finally fashioned the perfect puppet... I mean student.
5.I never said the Ponies ate meat just that they likely killed the cows for leather, (eg: book bindings, hoofballs, sofas, hats .e.t.c.) and exported the meat and horns. It's still the knowing killing of intelligent sentients.
6.I don't agree with the non aging theory either except for Spike who seems to be purposely kept at pre puberty as mentioned before, (whether Twilight is doing it knowingly or not is a different issue).
7.Putting aside for the fact that prejudice is a provably large aspect of the Tea Party platform/dogma, as stated before it was a casual comparision of similar aspects and how bad I thought Cadence can and would go.
8.On the subject of Sombra given Princess Amore did nothing to help him all those years while knowing what he was/what was happening to him she kind of deserved it.
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If it isn't the writer's intent, than it simply isn't true. That's a problem I have with a lot of fan theories. They go way too deep into simple things, and infer things the writers wouldn't have even thought of. The point is, if the writers say it isn't true, than it isn't true, because they made that world. Also, notice how everyone is nice Gilda up until she's mean to them If they had any sort of prejudice against griffins they would have avoided eye contact with her. Yes, they still would have been at each other's throats, because neither of them knew the other's reason, and they just assumed it was an unprovoked attack. Yes, the Appaloosans should have asked before they began building and such, but in all likely hood, if they had known how important that land was to the buffaloes, they would have built somewhere else. Oh, and there's an official statement that Spike's egg was found, not stolen. The letter delivery breath thing is easily explained. When, at any point in time, has another dragon had any reason to deliver something via fire? NEVER. Dragons are incredibly resistant to magic, so I doubt even Celestia COULD have modified him like that. I find it more likely that Spike has simply trained himself to not use the fire that can hurt people, which is a much more reasonable idea than genetic experimentation. Also, Dragons live for a very long time either way, and Spike is, what, five? I don't expect him to get much bigger any time soon. Look, I don't want to discuss politics in a comic about ponies, so just drop the tea party thing. Also, what? What? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about there. Are you saying Cadence knew Sombra was being evil or something? Because that doesn't make sense, since she didn't even know she was from the crystal empire.
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1.Alot of successful series have been developed by people analysing them in such a way and the writers have never said anything in regards to it so it remains a valid interpretation. Besides the show has alot of things implied.
2.They would have been at each others throats and wouldn't have cared about reasons in both situations. Why did the Appaloosan founders want to start an orchard in such an unsuitable climate anyway?
3.Spike's egg was, "found"? I concede the mail breath, though how can a magic resistant creature can learn and use such magic even without assistance? Given her power level I doubt overcoming the underdeveloped of an egg/baby dragon would be possible. The relevance of Spike's age to his physical growth is unknown as, "Secret of My Excess" showed it could be triggered by greed, (which was brought on by someone other then Twilight giving him a present for the first time remember). He is a beliitle glorified fax machine as most of his scens are him being: laughed at, embarrased, told to fetch and carry, and write and deliver letters.
4.I'm not the one that keeps bringing up the tea party.
5.I didn't say anything about Cadence in regards to Sombra, I said, (well typed) Princess Amore, (See Fiendship is Magic No.1).
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If you don't mind, I'm gonna squeeze myslef into this conversation here.... Thank you. Well first off in regards to Shining Armor and Chrysalis, what we witnessed in the show was most likely her enforcing mind control on the poor stallion, not the actual act of love draining. Honestly, I think the way Changelings harvest love doesn't really harm the ponies they're taking it from as it seems from the way Chrysalis described when she overpowered Celestia that she may have gathered more love than she realized, meaning she probably wasn't aware of how much she harvested just as much how the pony was unaware of it.
On another note relating to the dragons and ponies, we have seen in the show that ponies and dragons doesn't exactly interact with each other, let alone like each other. So for the ponies to have a dragon egg from which Spike was hatched from, and I highly doubt dragons would willingly give the ponies one of their own for whatever purposes, it can either concluded it was stolen or Spike was abandoned, either which is plausible, but stolen might have been more the case.
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I think the egg being abandoned is more likely, considering every other time a Dragon has been angered it has caused massive climate shifts.
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Yeah fyck you celestia and crew
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Aaaah that would've been better in context to something or maybe a little thing noting that at the bottom hehe
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No one is the villain in their own story...
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Chrysalis could have just asked for love....
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Could she? What was stopping her then?
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My comment was rather rhetorical...
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No it really wasnt. Because I dont get why she didnt.
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Mmhmm. The weird and scary bug monster thing that came out of a tree could've just walked up to Celestia and asked for love. I don't see anything wrong with that! Not like there would ever be anyone against that idea, and want to do bad things to the changelings. Nope, they'd all be totally on board with that!
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Thats what I said, Ikr
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If she wouldn't take it by force then maybe, but I respect her,well when she isn't that evil
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Boom good guys are the bad guys.
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You know what? No. No, no, no, no... NO.
Chrysalis, you may be my favourite MLP villain, but you have absolutely no right whatsoever to play the victim. You never have and you never will.
YOU kidnapped Cadence and Twilight, turned Shining Armor into your love-drained puppet, and launched an unprovoked military assault on Canterlot with not only the intent of draining its inhabitants, but then the entire country!
And you have the audacity to blame it on the ponies, the Victims of your conquests? How DARE you! What have they done to you or your kind beyond defend themselves from your attacks on them and their loved ones?!
If you were so damn desperate for love as this comic is outright saying, why not attempt diplomacy and set something up with Celestia so your subjects can get the love they need?
Oh wait, that's right. Because if that was the case, then A Canterlot Wedding would never have happened. And are you guys reading this who are gushing with sympathy for your waifu honestly gonna try and make the argument that Celestia, freaking Celestia, would have denied to help them? Come on, guys, why wouldn't she? Oh yeah, because Celestia Must be just a greedy, selfish tyrant and her people arrogant racists. Why? Because that's the easy way out. Instead of Chrysalis actually taking some goddamn actual responsibility and admit she screwed up and genuinely try to fix it, it's so much easier for her just to slander the ponies as the "real bad guys" so she looks better for standing against them.
And Vavavcung, please don't take this the wrong way, I like your work, I really do, but I sincerely hope you don't have Chrysalis climb on top of this soap box and stay there. I just think it unfairly blames the ponies for just defending themselves against unprovoked attacks by their world's equivalent of apex predators.
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I concur... but please... do remember that she's probably frustrated at her own situation and isn't acting maturely. The way their bickering is portrayed in future pages makes me think Chrysalis and Cadance are acting like children and Celestia is big mama with all the love in the world scolding them for what they did.
I'd really love that.
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