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Comments: 69

Kajm [2009-12-13 22:35:15 +0000 UTC]

I would also note, the person who's comment I followed has got to be one of the most ignorant people yet. Carbon monoxide!?! Good God, what has happened to education since I got out of college?

Not to mention he's that way everywhere he goes.

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virtuadc In reply to Kajm [2009-12-14 19:44:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I just got a lung upgrade at the NWO factory where I now exhale a synthetic form of Carbon Monoxide. Its pretty cool actually, it has a green tint to the gas when its cold outside.

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Kajm [2009-12-13 22:32:39 +0000 UTC]

Good to see there's a few people on DA with the sense to look around for themselves on the issue.
Ny best friend here on DA is... not quite in either camp at the moment (or so I hope). He sent me a link about the AP 'fact-checking' the CRU emails... it now turns out the person doing the 'fact-checking' is one of the people who WROTE those emails!

And nice work on the pic, also!

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virtuadc In reply to Kajm [2009-12-14 19:14:19 +0000 UTC]

Well Kajm you are awake to some serious issues going on which is good, next step is to let others you others know as well, to spread real news. Eventually, they will see over time that you were right on one issue or another, then they will get on board, and continue the real change.

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Kajm In reply to virtuadc [2009-12-14 20:58:28 +0000 UTC]

Working on it!

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Shorthand-Hero [2009-12-12 23:27:51 +0000 UTC]

We exhale carbon MONOXIDE (CO), which dissolves quickly in the atmosphere and does not contribute to global warming.

Burning fossil fuels creates carbon DIOXIDE (CO2), which is the top contributor to the greenhouse effect.

The ignorance this deviation displays is staggering, and it's poignantly indicative of the scientific ignorance within the "climate change denial" community.

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Shorthand-Hero In reply to Shorthand-Hero [2009-12-14 19:33:17 +0000 UTC]

I got my facts wrong on that comment, my apologies, we do not exhale carbon monoxide except in trace amounts.

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Kajm In reply to Shorthand-Hero [2009-12-28 11:44:37 +0000 UTC]

btw the last link on your piece is over two years old, and immensely out of date. Climate science has taken huge strides in the past two years and a great deal of it counters the arguments being made for agw.

However I already know you will diss this and all other info contrary to what you wish to believe. Good luck on that. And in response to your response I can only say

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Kajm In reply to Shorthand-Hero [2009-12-28 09:12:57 +0000 UTC]

Here is just one of the reasons your piece on Climategate is totally wrong:

Straw Man 2: “The alleged ‘hockey stick’ graph of temperatures over the past 1600 years has been disproved. It doesn’t even acknowledge the existence of a ‘medieval warm period’ around 1000 A.D. that was hotter than today is. Therefore, global warming is a myth.

True skeptical argument: As papers by more than 770 scientists from more than 450 institutions in more than 40 countries over the past 25 years demonstrate by proxy temperature reconstructions from measured data, the medieval warm period was real, was global, and was warmer than the present, in some places by almost 4 C° (6.3 F°. The “hockey-stick” graph is not an “alleged” graph: the UN’s climate panel reproduced it six times, large and in full color, in its 2001 assessment report. The measured data from all around the world disprove the graph, which was compiled using numerous false statistical techniques. However, the mere existence of the medieval warm period, and the fact that some 7500 of the past 11,400 years have been warmer than the present, do not in themselves establish that “global warming” is a myth. They do establish, however, that today’s global temperatures are well within the natural variability of the climate.

Scientific American says that proxy evidence from numerous sources confirms that the planet has been warming, and that the National Research Council in 2006 found that temperature during the late 20th century was warmer than for 400 years. Scientific American does not say that the NRC report found that the “hockey-stick” graph reached a conclusion that was no better than “lausible”, and that it had a statistical validation skill not significantly different from zero – in short, that it was worthless, a conclusion strongly endorsed by the report of three statisticians consulted by the Energy & Commerce Committee of the US House of Representatives.

The “hockey-stick” graph – with its long shank falsely suggesting no temperature change for a millennium and its blade indicating a very large uptick in temperatures in the 20th century – is the most thoroughly discredited artifact in the history of science.

Scientific American says, “Even if the ‘hockey stick’ was busted, what of it? … Even if the world were incontrovertibly warmer 1,000 years ago, it would not change the fact that the recent rapid rise in CO2 explains the current episode of warming more credibly than any natural factor does – and that no natural factor seems poised to offset further warming in the years ahead.”

No. As we have already described, changes in cloud cover, and hence in the amount of sunlight actually striking the Earth’s surface, provide a much more credible correlation with measured variability in global temperature over the past 30 years than the monotonically-increasing CO2 concentration; they provide a radiative forcing that is many times larger over the period than that from CO2; and, as numerous papers in the literature now suggest, the cooling of the past nine full years may well continue for at least another couple of decades, for natural reasons.

Finally, the rate of warming from 1975-1998, when we might, in theory, have made some small contribution to the warming, is no greater than the rate of warming from 1860-1880 and again from 1910-1940, when we could not have had any measurable influence at all over temperature.



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ChrisOneill In reply to ??? [2009-12-12 08:09:41 +0000 UTC]

Very good work

I saw on Daily Plant on Discovery Channel yesterday, and I almost fell off my chair btw, They said Dogs make better pets then cats all around, BUT cats have a lower carbon footprint so that a major plus for chosing a pet. It's getting nuts in so many ways....

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virtuadc In reply to ChrisOneill [2009-12-13 19:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Awe.. the cable days.. Just got basic

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ChrisOneill In reply to virtuadc [2009-12-15 00:25:07 +0000 UTC]

You're not missing much

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Rangertamer [2009-12-12 03:29:48 +0000 UTC]

I can't believe this scam is still going on. The problem is how to turn this around.

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virtuadc In reply to Rangertamer [2009-12-13 19:15:27 +0000 UTC]

It is turning around, because of those leaked emails & documents from CRU. It would be a lot worse if that data didn't show up.

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Rangertamer In reply to virtuadc [2009-12-13 22:15:36 +0000 UTC]

It has to come out as an avalanche because after WWII and the nazi genocide, humanity pledged not let that happen again. Now, we are in the crossroad. People with the same mindset and a different excuse are coming out and pushing this, most of them unaware of the consequences to the future world. I think this got accelerated because we have reached the critical point described in the iron mountain document in 1967. Humanity is finally kicking war out the window. Now, the new enemy is needed to keep a ruling class in power.

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virtuadc In reply to Rangertamer [2009-12-14 19:38:44 +0000 UTC]

WAR IS PEACE! NOT!!

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tongajuice In reply to ??? [2009-12-12 02:39:59 +0000 UTC]

so true, but our eco-system have to funktion for us to survive. if we dont take precaussions, we will mess up our nest, befor we can ever leave it. says the bird xD

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virtuadc In reply to tongajuice [2009-12-12 02:47:44 +0000 UTC]

Carbon Dioxide is not a dangerous pollutant.

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