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Published: 2019-04-20 09:10:03 +0000 UTC; Views: 5920; Favourites: 137; Downloads: 5
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Wow, I...did not expect to get this made today. I didn't even really plan to work on this today, it...just kind of happened. Had Good Friday off from work and I decided, after going out for some sushi, to sit down and make a digital piece of a picture I'd sketched a few times in my sketchbooks over the past few months, just to see how it'd turn out. And before I knew it the hours had flown by and here we are. Dear lord. I just wanted to experiment with some digital stuff since I had time for once and like 4 or 5 hours just disappeared.Eh, either way...looks cool.
Everyone knows this show. Genndy's original foray into the animation industry. Well...it's kind of a back and forth between Dexter and Powerpuff, but Dexter was HIS show so I kind of count that as more his thing. And what a blast. As a kid it was always so fun watching whatever wacky adventure the characters would get wrapped up in. Well, for the first two seasons anyway. The show in general just took a nosedive for me once it got to the Chris Savino era. But the original seasons? High quality entertainment. And they topped it off with a pretty badass movie to boot (which I didn't realize when I was little means that Dexter's world has a pretty...REALLY bad future until Mandark's finally defeated for good decades later).
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Thatβs like saying the same thing to everything Chris Savino made.
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I heard Enter would hate Foe Paws, as itβs about a stuck up cat and a stupid dog.
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I suppose you donβt enjoy Savinoβs PPG either.
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This is so awesome! You did an amazing job.
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Good job,Β warahi , for making such a good piece of fan art capturing the rivalry between Dexter and Mandark on Dexter's Laboratory and the Ego Trip movie, both of which I may well remember.
While we usually think of Mandark as Dexter's rival neighbor on the show, in my mind, at least, I usually think of Mandark as not really just Dexter's rival (and a nerdy heel of Dexter's as well), but also as someone as scary and/or evil as, but also basically like Sauron, which will be the title character in J.R.R. Tolkien's mammoth three-volume fantasy saga The Lord of the Rings (published 1954-1955), and perhaps complete with a volcanic-like lair or something, and the irony is that this might be sort of possible in canon because of the fantastical nature of the Dexter's Laboratory show itself.
But that is just another story. (and I do know that Dexter's Laboratory's Mandark and The Lord of the Rings himself, Sauron, are two very different evil characters, and that Dexter's Laboratory by Genndy Tartakovsky and the Lord of the Rings saga by J.R.R. Tolkien are two very different works, especially as far as storytelling)Β
Anyway, thank you for churning out such a nice fan-art piece on the Dexter/Mandark rivalry,Β warahi !Β
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lol and thank you for the compliment ^_^
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Super drawing. Although I can understand you about the Savino era, it was a little the opposite for me. Yes, the series had changed and some episodes were bad but we must not forget that there were also good episodes.
For me, whether Tartakovsky or Savino, I like both.Β Β
Tell me what you think about it, I like to discuss topics like that.
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Well to get more in-depth I don't HATE the Savino era, but it's mainly a step-down in quality to me. The plots of the episodes are nowhere near as creative to me usually (the worst was probably A Third Dad Cartoon. That...that was a test in patience...) and the characters are very...different almost? Dexter isn't as likeable to me and comes off more as an arrogant jerk which, while he could be that at times, in the old stuff he had an air of being more respectable about him.
Mandark's backstory just annoyed me because it completely flew in the face of what it originally was. I know Dexter wasn't the most continuity-heavy show ever but pretty much everyone saw the original origin story with how often the show was on. We all knew his real name was whatever-Astronomonov and that he was this menacing genius that had never met Dexter before that first episode he was in. And then he just gets changed into Susan who was slighted by Dexter in the past which both changes his backstory and makes him a more sympathetic villain.
On the other hand the Savino Era has the absolute best Mandark villain outfit in my opinion. It's like an upgrade to his Ego Trip villain design. And it did have a couple of legitimately good episodes (with my favorite being Bygone Errors where it has elderly Deedee and elderly Dexter reliving "the good ol' days"). But it's just so few and far between that it doesn't hold much of a candle to me when compared to the original seasons. And I did not really care for the redesigns. I can see the appeal in them and they're certainly not bad, it's just...for me the characters are so ingrained in my head as to how they looked originally that if you change them THAT drastically, it's always gonna bug me. Think Dad got hit the worst there.
But it's also kind of odd. Because...the Savino era is...almost an entirely new series. Like there are things that reference the original show and that only fans would really understand, but at the same time it changes so much stuff that it almost feels like a restart with the final two seasons being an entirely new Dexter's Laboratory show, just not to the extent of something like the new Powerpuff Girls or anything.
At the end of the day it is still Dexter's Lab and I'd still watch it probably if it were on, but I'd be a lot more willing to flip the channel if it's the last two seasons.
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I understand, to deepen too, I do not hate the seasons run by Savino, I love them despite it was not really like the initial season. Yes, it was a new cartoon (but it was called the name of the serie), I think creating a new cartoon would have been more acceptable but CN at the time was hard on its employees (less bad before compared to today but all companies do it), suddenly, they did not want to take the risk to create a new cartoon and have to continue Dexter but with Savino, because If we remember the context of the time, Genndy Tartakovsky had left for another series (like PPG) but he had taken care to put a friend to him: Savino. He also told him what he wanted him for the next of the Dexter.
I'm glad it was Savino who was chosen rather than someone else. Let's not forget the 2016 PPG reboot (it even seems that Craig McCraken hates PPG because of that, yes, hating his creation).
But I agree with you, there have been good episodes like bad ones. There have been improvements to the characters (especially Mandark) but alas, it was more addictive than before. I think that if Genndy Tartakovsky had continued, it would have been better than the first seasons.
In fact, I find that people now are quite unfair to Savino now, whereas before, just a little disappointed with the work he had done on Dexter and PPG. But compared to now, he is no longer working on his own creation because of serious charges against him and currently, his own series, a new series that could have imagined again with Dexter and PPG, it's bad without him.
I'm so glad to discuss with someone like you this way, because with TheMysteriousMrEnter or one of his alleged followers, they would have been able to call me ignorant while they themselves forget the context of the time and forget even some things important enough to emphasize.
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Oh MrEnter's just insufferable to me. Half the time he doesn't know a thing about what he's talking about and when he makes accusations it's mostly just due to his own tastes about how "unpure" something is. When I saw the title "Animated Atrocities" I thought it was going to be about, ya know, animation. Instead it's just about some guy bitching about how characters did something he didn't like.
As for Savino I didn't know people were really saying anything more about him with Dexter nowadays. If they are it's likely cause of that sexual whatever stuff that happened. For me though that doesn't really make a difference when it comes to cartoons. No matter what the person has or hasn't done, whatever they made is still how it always was. It doesn't suddenly change because the creator did something unrelated to the product. Ren and Stimpy's first season is still some of my favorite stuff despite what John K's done. And it is kind of sad that The Loud House did lose it's creator, even if there is a reason. Like with Dexter though, it was left with people that have been working on the show for years.
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We are in the same boat. Few people appreciate criticism because of him and his followers. It's a shame because there are people who have better and often more interesting critical opinions (and who are also open-minded). Fortunately, Encyclopedia Dramatica destroyed them.
But afterwards, I understand that and I agree with you, people judge someone without inquiring and judge his past when there is absolutely no connection with the thing in question (Twitter ... the place that put together all the hypocrites and liars of this world).
But in fact, concerning Dexter at the time, what you should know and it is important to know, Genndy Tartakovsky could have chosen someone else more talented etc ... like Rob Renzetti, one of his friends too, but instead (and surprising everyone) he chose Savino (who was nothing more than a draftsman or screenwriter). Why ? Because according to someone I know, he wanted his friend to prove that it was better than its former role and according to some whispers of the time, Genndy expected Dexter to be less good but he was happy because one of his friends had succeeded in not spoiling his work and prove that it was better than it was.
It was not the same with McCraken who chose it to have the same result as Dexter (although unfortunately, it did not stop CN from rebooting and made McCraken angry about PPG).
In fact, Savino's story is interesting and surprising. But no one can deny that he has his place in the golden age of animation and that he will always be someone important.
Although I am among those who doubt accusations, I hope he can resume his creation, otherwise he will find work in animation elsewhere and he will start again where he left off. I would like to have your opinion on him (in private message if you wish).
But about TLH ... being in a sense a fan of this series, I was disappointed with season 3, I know things and there are many things to consider. Season 3 was greatly changed after the scandal and even the part without it was bad, worse than the rest of season 3 despite all Nickelodeon's effort to make it "better" (and even the lies of the SJW fan of TLH on Twitter were useless). The fandom has not only been split but also fractured, Nickelodeon has made TLH its new milk cow after SpongeBob and the series is degrading but not because of its creator even Paramount has to cancel the film planned (even Nickelodeon being silly , they have a movie made on Netflix ...).
In short, I believe that the dismissal of Savino not only hurt emotionally but also consequences.
I do not know what his friends McCraken and Tartakovsky think of him but strangely, no information on that coming from them (well, almost nobody in fact).
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From what I remember of Powerpuff is that it just got really dull to me after Craig left. He did return for the anniversary episode though which was more enjoyable to me, even if it was...ridiculously speedy. There was no stopping CN after that though. Sadly it was their property and not his. I'm just glad Samurai Jack didn't have a reboot or anything done before it could get an ending.
I'm sure Savino's gonna still be doing stuff. Maybe not on The Loud House, though if things are forgiven with him they'd probably let him come back (unless Nickelodeon put up things to block that. They always have been more meddling than Cartoon Network in my eyes). All depends on how everything is personally with everyone.
I personally see no problem with The Loud House becoming the next Spongebob, but only in the sense that it fills that role of "Nick's main show", not "gets turned into what Spongebob ended up becoming". There are worries and stuff, but so far I haven't seen too much damage. Certainly not something that can't be recovered from yet in any case as opposed to the continued degrading that Spongebob endured over the years.
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I see ... Like Dexter, PPG has changed a lot. But Craig was happy that it was like that with Savino that worse (even if the reboot happened, little anecdote, Craig gave the right to CN, Genndy for Jack Samurai, no even if it was very difficult).
But Craig and Chris were also great friends. In fact, Craig, Genndy and Chris were great friends but less popular, I could even make a joke "It's an American, a Russian and an Italian who are friends and who go to a bar". Surprisingly, only Rob does not really know him and he only knows Chris by name from his friends and nothing more (even though Chris worked for him).
For the future of Savino, I very propitiously think that Nickelodeon will re-engage him, they have a bit of that reputation but also, I have seen things not very normal with them about Chris. Like her old team.
The problem and they were forced to fire him because of the "witch hunt" but currently, this hunt no longer interests anyone and everyone else turns against it. Yes, the business world and pretty cruel.
To come back to Chris, if Nickelodeon does not rehire him, it will be someone else. A person like him is important to them (despite the reputation but the reputation of a person in the world of work is not important, it is the facts at work that are).
I think I tell you what I think of all this in private, far from the looks that can have.
I see ... When I say "become SpongeBob 2" it is in the negative sense, the meaning or "gets turned into what Spongebob ended up becoming".
I do not know if you saw all the season 3 but I saw it and reviewed and I could see some more or less important damage. I even look at the old seasons and see the difference and the difference is VERY great, even compared to Season 2.
I have a friend there and the situation is not improving. Few people know it, but the series suffers more than we see.
I do not know if they will succeed in healing the series but there is a solution. No, several solutions for all kinds of problems related to this.
And to say that some people "specialized" in "the cartoon" told me that all would be fine etc ... but they themselves are lying and have ended up believing in their lies (things by not rare in this society nowadays) .
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